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Of course they should replicate something like the neutron scattering images...I think not... For it is indisputable...Except here. For here it
Might even be argued the earth is flat despite the obvious proof.
Curious...how do you not???
Not true. The scientific research showing the tech works beyond initial expectations is solid. This is also backed by atomic level pics of the effect on molecules...seek and you will find. Do your own DD. Physics Journals aren't like People Magazine. The research published has to vetted by unbiased group of physicists and research panels.
http://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.91.012304
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Value Engineering Program Results in Improved AOT(TM) Efficacy and Efficiency...
"The re-engineered AOT measured 100 times more impedance then the pre-modified unit," Dan Miner, President of Industrial Screen and Maintenance, explained. "As modified, the AOT needed only 500 to 800 nano-amps to achieve a test voltage of 15,000 volts. After more than three years of working with QS Energy on the commercial AOT design and fabrication, these are by far the best post-manufacturing test results we've seen. This new design exhibits dramatic improvement."
Agreed BP. If anyone bother to really read the sec report they would run to buy shares. But hey life is about doing your own DD...not listening to fools rattle on with distortions of the facts to suit their agenda. Whether it is for or against. Each person interested must decide who on this board is aligned with the Sith and who is aligned with the Jedi.
Wrong again. Greg decided not to split hairs. Inconsequential to do so as the tests are validated and prove the effect. Pick your battles in life.
Incorrect. A word removed does not infer the AOT is not proven to work on rescuing the viscosity of oil significantly. It was the context that was the focus. It's proven to work...period. Taking the word out of context is a distortion of the facts
Wrong. QSEP provided proof to SEC that it was "proven". That inquiry is satisfied and closed. Proof is out there??
Things are progressing. The AOT is ready after expected refinement during the R & D stage for the product. It works beyond expectations. It matches the effectiveness recorded in the LAB. This is a scientific breakthrough. Oil companies around the globe are sending in oil samples. Get in while you can.
I think he would be doing this based upon public knowledge only. Bigger has made it public that we are talking directly to KM about integrating device into their system, Etc.. Dickson cannot have done this based upon information we all don't have. So this tells me he is confident based upon no new info only in what we all know.
It's all good stuff no matter how you slice it at this point.
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Flow and viscosity reduction are two different things. It isn't a 1:1 correlation.
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"upgraded AOTâ„¢ (Applied Oil Technology) viscosity reduction system will be re-installed on a major crude and condensate pipeline serving the Eagle Ford in South Texas"
The fact that this is pure science in action and that the last run on TC led to power supply improvements makes me feel very confident about the kinder test. This will be quite successful.
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Patents portfolio protects the intellectual property and is part of what would be included in an acquisition. It enhances the attractiveness of the company to the halliburtons and kinders of the industry. Also stops any Similar copy catting of tech.
No proposals and no patents would mean nothing. 4 proposals and 49 patents mean work is being done to protect the innovation and to sell the product. Period
SANTA BARBARA, CA -- (Marketwired) -- 03/10/15 -- Save The World Air, Inc., d/b/a STWA (the "Company") (OTCQX: ZERO) today announced that it will be reporting its earnings results for the period ended December 31, 2014 on Monday, March 16, 2015. The Company also disclosed that it will be hosting a pre-recorded conference call and webcast to discuss its financial and operating results on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 10 a.m
Moorea9, some of these pump stations in the U.S. are running on fueled generators, not powered off the grid. The original estimates STWA was promoting several years ago was tied to fuel savings at pump stations and the savings estimates were much much higher. Back then they were profiling the Alaskan pipeline.
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Well done Earth1!!! Appreciate the work and analysis you put into this. Thorough and enlightening.
Power Services
Bingo!
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Nice post DPS. Spot on
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Amen soxfan! Thanks again for sniffing out this laughable company's antics. This is exactly why I read this board because without this kind of insight I'd be penniless.
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Per this linked article you posted...It states: "This technical paper aims at analyzing Mr. Tao’s experiment, rectifying its limitations and proposing a better experimental setup for the pilot experiment so that it can be further extrapolated to the industrial point of application." This is old. Though the article is from June, the info in it predates Dr. Tao's more recent tests and analysis. Per Dr. Tao et al:
"When a strong electric field is applied along the flow direction in a small section of the pipeline, the suspended particles are polarized by the electric field. The dipolar interactions quickly aggregate the particles into short chains along the field direction. Under such a condition, the space symmetry is broken. Similar to the flow of nematic liquid crystal with its molecule alignment in one direction, the viscosity is no longer isotropic [8]. Along the axial direction, viscosity is down to the minimum as these aggregates are streamlined along the flow direction with a very low intrinsic viscosity. Hence the crude oil flow inside the pipeline is greatly enhanced.
However, the theoretical prediction that the applied electric field could aggregate suspended particles inside crude oil was not obvious. The issue somehow becomes controversy. For example, I.N. Evdokinov and K.A. Kornishin in 2009 claimed that magnetic field and electric field cannot aggregate particles inside crude oil [9]. In the area of electrorheological (ER) fluids, it was well established that a strong electric field aggregates the sus- pended dielectric particles of micrometer size into chains and chain-based thick columns, which are close packed and have the body-centered tetragonal (BCT) lattice structure [10–12]. Similar electric-field induced aggregations have been observed in colloidal suspensions with particles in micrometer or sub-micrometer size [13]. It is also straightforward to show that at a sufficiently strong electric field, the interaction between induced dipole and local electric field inside crude oil is stronger than the thermal motion, leading to the particle aggregation. The controversy comes from a simple fact that crude oil is very dark and the suspended particles inside crude oil, such as paraffin particles, are typically in nano- scale; they cannot be observed under microscope or with conven- tional optical devices. In fact, we even did not succeed in using X-ray or TEM to monitor the suspended particles inside the crude oil. To resolve this outstanding issue, which is also the key for the new technology, we must have some direct evidence to show electric field induced particle aggregation inside crude oil. For this purpose, we recently carried out neutron scattering studies at NIST Center for Neutron Research (NCNR).
The small angle neutron scattering experiment fully verified our theoretical prediction. Under a strong electric field, the suspended nano-particles inside crude oil aggregate into short chains along the field direction. The experiment enables us to determine the induced chain size and shape, verifying that the electric field works for all kinds of crude oils, including paraffin base crude oil, asphalt base crude oil, and mixed base crude oil. The basic physics of such field induced viscosity reduction verified by the neutron scattering is general and should be applicable to many other areas [14]." Tsunami coming
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Yes SAOTW! This most recent research is the critical issue that drives everything else with this product. The tech works beyond what was initially expected due to Tao figuring out that their is an optimal electric field for each oil and temp. The results are beyond what the industry had even hoped for a few years ago when they paid for testing of this technology. It has subsequently been improved upon. 40-80% viscosity reduction...simply put...homerun! All other attempts to make exaggerated and distorted negative points about the company, about Temple, about Tao, are utterly ridiculous at best. Best to cover if you're short...you still might make some money or minimal loss. If you wait too long, the tide will go out to feed the forming tsunami.
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As was pointed out in July when this website was created, it is not a legitimate enterprise...merely a purchased name and site with biased and inaccurate content.
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I'm starting to believe that we will see a new lease contract with TC for same amount ($60k/month) with lease beginning in December. Why you ask?... Well I think they plan on testing it's predicted super efficacy at cold temps (0 celsius)...so they now have the data for normal warmer temps and don't need anymore data on the efficacy. So why pay $60k/month while they're waiting for cold winter temps to arrive. So in essence they save about $100k when they cancelled the lease contract. Starting a new contract effective in December makes sense from a cost savings point of view. They clearly didn't need much time to figure out how well AOT works after they turned it on and now only need data at the much colder temps. My opinion is that the cost of moving and installing the AOT to a new colder region (gotta a be a lot of $$) is offset by cancelling contract and waiting for the cold to arrive in Wichita and sign a new short term lease contract (much less costly to TC). The average low temps don't get below 0 c until December when the average low is -4c and average high is 7c. January average is -6c lows and 6c highs. Remember Tao showed that at 0 Celsius there is a huge leap is viscosity efficacy. I'm sure this is something they want to see on their pipes before finalizing their analysis and something STWA would want as well for pricing considerations moving forward.
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Thanks for the effort! Love the newspaper time stamp so nobody can accuse you of filming this last month.
Very good sign the negotiations are going on behind the scenes or have concluded and have not been made public yet.
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Correct. That was an issue and created costly challenges...ultimately once AOT starts selling they will likely resurrect the Elektra product line.
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This "pilot" with TC is not about whether the science is true, it is only a matter how much money it will save and generate for the oil company. They must do their due diligence as responsible stewards to their shareholders before spending hundreds of millions of dollars;otherwise, there would be lots of concerning questions about this major purchase and modification to the pipeline. Checks and balances in corporate America. That's what we are witnessing.
And termination of lease is part of TCs negotiation strategy. Negotiation 101 is to not let the seller know how much you love their product otherwise you will have less leverage. Make them sweat a little. As the seller you also don't want the buyer to think there's no other serious demand for your product...so not surprised on the same day TC terminates lease that STWA announces contract with KM, thereby letting TC know they are not worried about strategic termination of contract. Chess match playing out before our eyes.
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Spot on moorea9! The implications of this clarification are enormous. Now it is clear that stwa has the ability to optimize AOT for each type of oil to maximize the viscosity change.
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Just plain truth here
" A comparison of the intrinsic viscosities at various electric fields in Table 1 indicates that as the applied electric field increases, the aggregated chains initially have their length increased fast, lower- ing the intrinsic viscosity fast. However, after the electric field reaches 1100 V/mm, a further increase of the electric field mainly makes the chains thicker, leading to a higher intrinsic viscosity. Therefore, it is clear that there is an optimal electric field for the viscosity reduction and it is not true that the higher the electric field, the more the viscosity reduction." -Tao et al
What does this mean? It means that Tao and STWA have figured out how to adjust the AOT's electric field to optimally suit the type of oil or condensate flowing through it!
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From Dr. Tao's recent experimental research exploring the mechanism behind the viscosity reduction- "The small angle neutron scattering experiment has confirmed the theoretical prediction that a strong electric field induces the suspended nano-particles inside crude oil to aggregate into short chains along the field direction. This aggregation breaks the symmetry, making the viscosity anisotropic: along the field direction, the viscosity is significantly reduced. The experiment enables us to determine the induced chain size and shape, verifies that the electric field works for all kinds of crude oils, paraffin-based, asphalt-based, and mix-based. The basic physics of such field induced viscosity reduction is applicable to all kinds of suspensions." The same research experiment results further clarifies why a magnetic field didn't work on all oil types but why the electric field does work on all of them. This is a huge breakthrough that quells any questions as to what exactly is causing the viscosity changes. It's now black and white and affirms the reason why AOT works so well at affecting the viscosity of all oils. Don't be fooled by comments attempting distort the validity of the science with erroneous claims that the science is flawed or AOT has never been proven to work. Due your DD independent of commentary on this or any other board. Read the research and testing results. It's an exciting time to be invested as a long term investor. 02
This is the truth of the matter with AOT-
STWA’s AOT technology differs from dilutant techniques in that it operates by applying a non- uniform electric charge (dielectrophoresis) to fluids during transport.
AOT technology aggregates sub-micron particulate matter into nano- and micron-scale clusters
Dielectrophoresis engages the
paraffin and the asphaltene
content in crude oil, creating a conformational change to the molecular structure.
Altering the paraffin and/or aphaltene in the crude oil reduces
total surface area of the molecules for a constant volume fraction, thereby reducing the drag within the fluid itself. By lowering viscosity of the crude, pipeline systems benefit from higher flow rates, reduced system pressure, less wear and tear on components and potentially greater margins of operational safety.
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Electromagnetism. The pulsed magnetic field is generated by electricity.
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AOT uses dielectrophoresis via an electric field. Magnetic field alone didn't work as well...this is old news. Some may post links to citations/references to the in effectiveness of magnetic fields possibly trying to suggest this is what AOT uses; thereby, leading to erroneous conclusions regarding Dr. Tao and the AOT...these references are clearly misleading. An accident? AOT works very well on oils and other fluids because of dielectrophoresis effect as caused by the electric field.
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"Large amounts of electricity..." Blatant exaggeration of the facts. The reality is that it is a small amount of electricity to run the AOT with tremendous cost savings realized. AOT works and makes money for oil companies....period. Believe the facts not the hype negative or positive. The earth is not flat...the pictures from space are real.
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I imagine the same "many" that would argue against Dr. Tao's work on fluid dynamics are probably the same folks that argue that NASA 's first pictures of the earth from outerspace showing clearly that it is round and rotates is a hoax. The flat landers society is alive and kicking on many fronts. The AOT works, it's been tested and the results are available for viewing....the world is not flat I swear.
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Some still question the validity of AOTs effect on the molecules of oil despite the science along with corresponding nano level pictures. Really?
Science and math trumps social manipulation.
AOT is science in action
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Everybody on this board is in the race. It is obvious who is in the race as a bull or a bear based upon the negative or positive valance in overall posts. In all my years on this and other boards I have not seen anyone legitimately convert from one side to the other based upon arguments posted here.
The science of how electrorheology directly effects fluids/oil at the molecular level is unbiased, and recent scans of oil samples after they have passed through the AOT duplicate these lab tests. The molecules repattern into chains thereby reducing viscosity. First in the lab, then in the field with AOT. AOT tech works as advertised! It is only a matter of how well it works on specific types of oils, condensates, and at what temps. The data collection is the precursor to next level negotiations and approvals from TC decision-makers. They owe it to their shareholders to do the due diligence work. Due diligence is on its own schedule in big business. There are no short cuts. This is all science and math with the engineers.
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