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.119 pre RS equivalent. Day by day equity value gets worse!! 66% loss from RS!! Ouch!!
Crypto's getting hammered. Bitcoin down again right now....-17%.
Slow agonizing death to the PPS....
blockchains crashing!!
.126 pre RS equivalent...PPS getting hammered!!!
.148 pre RS equivalent at 2.23.... was approx. .35 at the RS!!! 52% equity loss. Not looking to good!!
WOW. .46 pre RS. Hammered. Divi cut first then after the PPS tanks further....bankruptcy. JMO
I learned my lesson years ago...cost me hard. But educational none the less. Over the years I have also noticed a definitive pattern with those upticks post RS....they are few and far between...rare, but the PPS eventually down ticks. Even the biggies...check out FTR's fins. Recently RS'd, billion dollar company.
Just getting hammered!! .44 equivalent pre RS!! Where's the bottom?
Thanks for the head up. I have been in and out of this stock for a couple years. Ride the ups and downs most of the time with occasional dividend income. Looking interesting at this price... maybe lower
The letter you all are talking about.... is that in e format somewhere, or just by snail mail?
Thanks in advance.
True. Think about a combination of a earnings miss with a dividend cut. That will drive the PPS down hard..... mid $6's or lower possibly.
A dividend cut definitely crossed my mind!!
Anybody have a clue as to the big drops the last two days? Or is PPS just following the markets? Earnings not out till 8/29....
Not holding.... so bring back .83. Last time was a nice ride!!
Jack, I wasn't trying to be a Monday morning QB. It was more about investing logic. Hard to imagine that there are short positions in at less than .83, or .95, or even 1.25. I guess there is some accounting reason with 32M shares short. The stock is trading at 2.25. Anyway it's all good. What ever you are invested in, hope you cash in!!
If I was holding a short position, I would have covered back in mid Feb. when it was .83 cents. Don't get why any short would hold on. BOD will RS before they lose Nasdaq listing so .83, to me, looks like a money maker.
I might have missed something.... can you tell me exactly what income they have?
And the post RS sting bites a little harder!! Hate those damn BOD maneuvers.
Reverse splits and dilution will do that!!
There's a dose of reality!! Now figure in the April 2015 1 for 15 RS!! Excellent example of a dilution machine. Good thing is they spend the money on expansion and try to take as little toxic financing as possible. Long common shareholders get railed in the meantime.
There's an AH bite in the ass!! Although selling stock to raise cash is always better than toxic financing. Kills PPS and pisses off the longs, but works better for the expansion of the company financially. Two RS's in less than two years, selling stock from the bank continually gevo is at a critical juncture. 2 maybe 3 quarters will tell the tale for them. IMO
Wish PLUG was as good as SODA!! Closed Friday at $44.31. 52 week range $11.66 to $44.79. Not much of a fad there with that kinda PPS growth. PLUG's technology and impressive yoy growth says that companies are paying attention and adopting. Emerging out of development into commercial is no easy task not to mention that they are still r&d'ing the daylights out of the fc's for new markets. Time will tell.
$1.25 WTF!!! Never said this before but Andy does need to go!! He is not the only tech savvy/ business person out there!!
Here's a press release that talks about the time frame and what occurred with the Wal-Mart contracts:
Plug Power Receives GenKey Order from Wal-Mart for Seventh N. American Distribution Center
7:02 am ET July 29, 2014 (Benzinga) Print
Plug Power (Nasdaq: PLUG) today confirms the company has received a follow-on GenKey purchase order from Wal-Mart Stores (NYSE: WMT). to add an additional, seventh, GenKey site to the original six-site contract it announced in February 2014. This additional site in Sterling, IL consists of 286 GenDrive fuel cell units and is planned to deploy in the third quarter of 2014.
GenKey is Plug Power's all-inclusive hydrogen fuel cell power solution, combining:
GenDrive fuel cell units
GenFuel infrastructure construction and hydrogen fuel supply
GenCare onsite maintenance service
In February 2014, Plug Power received a milestone GenKey order from Walmart to roll out 1,783 GenDrive fuel cells in the forklift fleets at six sites across North America. The first of these sites, in Pottsville, PA, was brought successfully on line during the second quarter of 2014. Plug Power deployed almost 300 GenDrive fuel cell units in Walmart's class-2 and class-3 electric lift trucks. Additionally, Plug Power built and commissioned Walmart Pottsville's outdoor and indoor GenFuel infrastructure in less than 13 weeks following the receipt of the initial order.
To date, the GenDrive units in Pottsville have accumulated over 100,000 hours of run-time, and the GenFuel infrastructure has dispensed more
The PPS was definitely low. When I first came across PLUG it was .21/share. Right around that time the BOD voted and approved a RS so I held off from buying, even though I thought the technology was pretty cool. RS's are usually PPS killers. As time went by they never executed the RS and the PPS was creeping up. I finally jumped in at .42 and sold during the big run up in March 2014.
WTH 1.53 AH..... Why? Hey longs, back in for a third time. First time made a boatload, second time had to sell for a boatload loss, now back in again @ 1.39. Couldn't resist!! I'm a believer. The engineer in me understands the tech, the business guy in me still concerned about their financials though. But at 1.39 a bargain I felt. Don't feel bad about the loss(low 6 figures I was pissed) but made it back and then some in telecom with WIN (in @ 3.75 out @ @ 8.75, still pays a 7.23% dividend if your into income stocks). Haven't seen a'napp around did he bail? Hope all is good!!!
Sucks how the PPS got walked down from the HOD!!! Especially with the great PR!! SMH
Scroll down to June 9th to see comments about PLUG from Michael Bigger(Bigger Capital). Sounds like he was at the NY facility. Interesting comment he made about cars. Did he see something we don't know about yet? Nice press!!
https://twitter.com/biggercapital?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Is Plug Power Surging Ahead in the Fuel-Cell Market?
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/05/14/is-plug-power-surging-ahead-in-the-fuel-cell-marke.aspx
Agree 100% UK!!
If they stay at the 50/50 pace as AM said in the cc we might only see $75M in cash installs/service and $75M in value of leased equipment installs. The leased equipment becomes a plug asset and can be depreciated over time and/or sold ( not sure who that would be except the customer). Something in our favor I guess. My concern is the expense to manufacture the leased equipment. They are borrowing the money to cover that expense, are they bringing in enough monthly $'s to cover principle and interest payments? There is a safe business ratio that companies use between cash sales/payment to leased value bookings. Again it's the expense to manufacture that the company must cover in order to retain as an asset. According to the 10q they lost money on the ppa's for q1 16. $2706000 in vs 2881000 out. Time will tell how all this will work out. But makes me nervous relative to the cost to revenue ratio.
The other thing, they are still losing money on fuel deliveries. They lost $400K!!! This should be a no brainer profit stream for them unless they are "throwing the baby out with the soapy water" just to close a sale.
Sign me a long but frustrated investor.
Well this was a sh**ty week for the PPS!! SMH In the past we would see a climb to 2.70 - 2.90 during ER run. Now it's just skepticism and pain from the market. Tough to watch dollars disappear. Come on Andy get those margins up and stop bleeding cash!! Thanks for listening longs!!
Tax credit extension hitting a snag. SMH
https://www.rotor.org/Publications/RotorNews/tabid/843/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/10028/SENATE-WORK-ON-FAA-BILL-CONTINUES.aspx
Checkout this article. Wish PLUG was in on this fueling station business!! Or are we? Only makes since they all ready build them now!! The infrastructure too!!
http://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/environment-and-safety/industrial-gas-giant-air-liquide-to-build-12-hydrogen-fuel-stations-in-northeast-u-s-165484/
Home Depot sustainability report. Check out pages 28-31 for Plug Power info. Go PLUG!!!
http://porchlightatl.com/The-Home-Depot-2015-Sustainability-Report/#?page=0
I pick "go dark" (or is it gone dark?).
Article: H2 vs. Tesla. PLUG PPS should be higher than $2!!
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3956209-avoid-tesla-hydrogen-new-electric
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