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"I'm using logic, always worked for me here"
Alrightee then.
I find it unbelievable you never met KA.
Is the prospect Of Ken earning jail time so outrageous? Why? He should know better. There would be no gasp of surprise from most quarters of this message board IMO if he did a couple of years.
Prepare to eat lashings of humble pie once it comes out Ken and Jeff conspired post Ken's "without prejudice" dismissal.
GOOD OLD MIKE. I THINK HE BEEN FOLLOWING IDCN FOR A WHILE.
"Ken Ash - Owner of a few million dollars worth of NC beach property"
Not for long IMO.
And I shall be proven correct about him and JRB "acting". I am rarely wrong. Watch JRB and KA turn on each other when the SEC ask for......
DOCUMENT PRODUCTION
"So why do you think appointing Ash was such a disaster for the stock?"
Answer. Ash has insufficient brain power. All he was was muscle and he lacks the one that counts.
I GOT SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY:
I STILL FULLY EXPECT A SHARE PRICE OF 5 CENT......(LOL)
OH YES AND LET'S NOT FORGET THIS GREAT POST.......
Ken Ash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE ARE ALL THE FOLK WHO CELEBRATED MARCH 21 2012?
I TOLD YOU SO!!
I AM NOT SURPRISED CASSANDRA THAT A SEC OFFICE OUT OF NEW YORK IS HANDLING THE SUSPENSION. AFTER ALL, NEW YORK SO COOL THEY DID NAME IT TWICE!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA!!!!!!!!HEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET IT????? LMAO!!!!!!!
I only got 1 more thing to say about this totally unpredictable development today......
It's from a post that sums up everything! Here it is! Yay........
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74297353
"If KA would have been patient and followed a rational course of action by filing disclosure statements and holding a shareholder meeting with a proxy vote for a new BOD before taking corporate actions and allowing the touting of the stock, the suspension would likely not have happened IMO"
But that would have been sensible, would have been the common sense thing to do and would have required a combination of intellect and ethics by the would-be doer, in this case, Ken Ash......
If Ken didn't appoint himself as Pres, who did? Why didn't Ken quickly look to amend that situation or put out a website blurb correcting the error?
Is it because his Intelligence Quotient is only fractionally higher than a bag of squashed apricots which still remain in their packaging due to an unfortunate incident dating back to 1984?
DOCUMENT PRODUCTION!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!
WHERE DID THOSE BELE J/V PAPERS GO?
WHERE DID THOSE ASSAY ORDERS GO FOR HOCKEY STICK?? YOU KNOW TO THAT UNNAMED GUY WHO WAS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE FEDS WHO SUBSEQUENTLY FLED THE COUNTRY MARRIED ONE OF THE SECURITY GUARDS GUARDING THE GOLD AND THEN HAD A SEX CHANGE TO AVOID DETECTION???
WHERE DID THAT LOI CONTRACT GO? YOU KNOW!!! THE THING THAT'S A LEGAL IMPOSSIBILITY BECAUSE IT'S LIKE LOOKING FOR A CIRCULAR SQUARE???
JRB TO RETURN TO SAVE THE DAY?????????? DON'T MISS YET ANOTHER THRILLING INSTALLMENT OF.......DER DER DER DER DER DER......IDCN..........YAY!!!!!!!!!!
HOW TO RESCUE DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY?? YES YOU GUESSED IT!! IT'S YOUR FRIEND AND MINE.......MR KENNETH ASH................!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE OLD BOSS LIKE FORMER IRO!!!! LIKE CUSTODIAN LIKE SELF-APPOINTED PRESIDENT WITH NO SHAREHOLDER MEETING!!!!
It's the difference between book smart and street smart. Ken IMO lacks the former and it's going to cost him. Change the name AFTER you have a piece of business not before!! JMO. There's no PR stating what deal is on the table so why change the name? Then he got into a tangle and changed the name again. Where's the shareholder meeting again? Then he just became the President of IDCN. By what due process did that occur exactly? All schoolboys errors.
I was having a chat with a very fine poster about Ken's appointment as custodian and she said it was not a good decision. She was right. Not that I needed her to tell me that.
Time to say buh-bye to Ken and IDCN.
TO DEEEEEEEE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sale? What are you selling? Fraud, misfeasance? There is nothing that can save this stock IMHO.
Nice to see you back son. Flying visit for you?
I was speaking to a friend of Ken just a few minutes ago after the SEC suspension came down and I asked him what Ken's ambition was now in the stock world. He told me Ken's ambition was to be involved in a stock that simply didn't end up being a pile, didn't get on the greys and didn't get SEC suspensions and investigations for crimes against investors!! Business, revenues and share price didn't exactly figure into it but at least the guy was honest. Then I spoke to another CEO on the Pinks in the same field as IDCN. I asked him what his ambition was for the rest of 2012 also to bear in mind that IDCN was making a comeback and had got rid of its evil CEO and had the great Ken Ash now in charge. He told me this:-
Negotiate big contracts with many big players
Hit a billion dollars in revenue
Forward split
Dividend
On the NASDAQ
$4 a share
Possible takeovers of other listed companies
I said to him that sounds a bit steep doesn't it? To which he replied well that friend of Ken's started it!!!!!!!!
Didn't you get the memo? Ken Ash is guiltless of all IDCN crimes. It was all that fat POS cockroach who no longer has anything to do with IDCN......
But then Ken would have to face some angry shareholders who in their mind would want to know why he fibbed, scalped and hesitated.
Maybe this is an optimum moment to receive some further LINES OF CHAT?
VIPR isn't even good enough for a R/S. The rats long deserted the sunken ship which is VIPR.
Why couldn't Jason have played that fight scene opposite Michael Massee?
This new CEO looks good doesn't he? All this dialogue we are receiving....
I refer to the PR not the legal attack itself. Thought you understood this.
Strong argument space. Filled with balance and reason.
GO SIDEWINDER!! GO KEN!! GO DEALS!! JUST GO!! LOL!!
Morning to the fillet.
"THE FACT IS, YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH ANY OF THE ACTIONS TAKEN!"
So you claim.
"It would seem that all you care about is some type of credit."
Hardly. I ain't going to apologize for something I didn't do. I held and still hold a certain opinion. That is my privilege. Namely that KA knew of/was involved with JRB and his deceptions a bit more than he let on. It's hardly a controversial opinion and has the support of a number of others on this chat forum. I accept it has been difficult for him to "strike" and undermine JRB but he was simply waiting for the green light order from his master IMO. I hardly witnessed him struggle between his loyalty to JRB and his putative loyalty to investors who were really suffering incurring massive losses while the whole thing was going on. A number of my posts asking reasonable sensible questions regarding JRB's devious conduct went unanswered by KA and don't give me it was because he couldn't answer in public. For one, like I said before, there always comes a time when the most loyal supporter has to call time and say enough is enough. He didn't do that even when it got to the point that JRB almost wanted us to believe the moon was made of cheese there would have been KA telling us it's Swiss Cheese. For two, KA was sacked somewhat unceremoniously by JRB. Did he display his wrath soon after? Nope. Later after perhaps? Nope. Did he display his wrath when completely embarrassed in front of his many Stockcharter followers when JRB made him look like an idiot especially considering his double buy recommendation of IDCN stock? Nope. What about his wrath following the likely non-liquidated and liquidated loss he personally encountered with IDCN stock? Nope. Is it because we know KA to be a mild-mannered guy? Nope. Question is why no anger?
If it hadn't have been for JRB's company meeting/minutes procedure error, would we still be waiting to witness KA's anger, action and endeavor? I think yes, logically. JRB's miscalculation (entirely conceived and deliberate IMO) gave KA the needed opportunity to fill the gap of his lack of anger but the whole thing smacks of a DRAMA SERIES and in my experience when it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it normally is. When there's drama with a number of "it just so happens coincidental events" only adding to and fueling the drama and torment there's normally a SCRIPTWRITER AND CONSPIRATORS behind the scenes. Enter the 2 directors also actors. Ably supported by certain members of this message board IMO.
Am I looking for credit? Nope. Don't need any.
Do I have to say sorry? Nope. This was someone else's doing and from it came MY OPINION which I am entitled to. The situation needed rectifying and eventually it has been rectified....apparently anyway; but ask yourself where IDCN investors would be if no-one moaned or asked questions? If you prevent me from complaining you have to prevent everyone from complaining in order for your methodology and preference of dealing with such matters to be regarded as non-hypocritical. Apart from the fact that preventing people from voicing their opinions is illogical, it means you got to stop that Plaintiff guy from taking JRB to Court in the first place. So how would KA be in charge now exactly?
Yep. Exactly.
You'll be delighted to hear, subject to any new deceptions arising which I would naturally love to comment on, I consider this element of discussion closed. Permanently. Enough has been written on the subject and I clearly won with my superior thinking and opinion. If after all this you think there wasn't a "staging element" to JRB's visual exit from the "company" you are probably a tad naive in the business world that is penny stocks. It's a game and every game has players. Usually players play AGAINST each other especially when the lead player obviously "goes rogue". When one player gets publicly embarrassed, no humiliated to the extent KA did you have to ask WAS KA ALWAYS ON THE SAME TEAM JRB WAS? Was he just taking his punishment as directed?
I think you'll find in the coming months Sidewinder will get itself involved in some mining deals but JRB WILL have a latent involvement and a "take" in those deals. The only reason it was jointly decided by JRB & KA to remove JRB from the public spotlight was because his reputation and endearment to shareholders had become totally shot beyond salvage.
So just to recap. I am declaring myself winner of this argument on the old conspiracy stakes. Nevertheless, I do wish KA the very best of luck moving forward. TO DEE MOON.
So you want me to apologize for KA finally waking up from his slumber?
No thanks. I avoid trips to la-la land.
No I won't. Why should I? In fact, he and you and other IDCN shareholders should be thankful to me since these words appear to have come about in no small part due to my own efforts. I said this is what was necessary for me to feel good about things and it is good to see Ken making an attempt to do exactly that.
I am also liking of the new name. It's a bit on the macho cheesy side but I like it. All it needs is a business behind it and Ken and investors can do really well here but so far as your request goes can you hear yourself? These problems have been going on for years. Many years. In a way, a decade. And you want me to say sorry now it seems everything is about to be corrected? Don't think so. Ken is merely making an attempt, by all accounts a decent attempt, at putting shareholders back to where they should be. So to some degree Ken is undertaking a thankless task. If he succeeds, that's what he was meant to do. If he fails, he'll be criticized. IMO no apology is required from investors whatsoever.
The real crux of the issue is that the excellent DD I and other posters did on this chat forum was not appreciated when it should have been. On any understanding, I was right because if I was wrong why did Ken mention the very things I harped on about using the very same terminology I frequently employed??
JMODYODD
Neither does the appearance of an absence of one very large bad factor suddenly make a company great, good or legit.
It will be a futile Order. If she was clever, the majority of the money she stole will have disappeared overseas so she will inevitably be made bankrupt and when the creditors come looking for her via her Trustee in Bankruptcy she'll lie and say she spent all the money and is now destitute. Then once a year has elapsed after her release from prison she'll travel to the secret place the money was sent to and enjoy the rest of her days. JRB probably has a similar blueprint only IMO Ken is his ticket, his buffer from preventing a criminal charge and Ken knows this hence why my conspiracy theories are attacked as this is the nub of what's important to those running and involved with the scam that is IDCN.
JMODYODD
I WONDER IF KEN EVER MET ROBIN??????
Yes I'd believe him. Always prepared to take a man at his word....if he says such a word. No word has been said on that front and with all this talk of an appeal and that ridiculous alcohol oriented website update it looks again like I was right insofar as JRB is lurking in the shadows.
Like you say, at least this time Ken appears to be his own man for now so there will be no more LOI Contracts.
I continue to wait on sidelines waiting a substantive update from the custodian which shows a business is being developed by someone other than a parasitic leech.
NEVER SAID IT WAS PROOF. EQUALLY YOU OR KEN HIMSELF HASN'T OFFERED PROOF TO DISPEL MY SPECULATION.
MY SPECULATION IS LOGICAL BASED ON HIS SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR. THAT'S ALL I'VE EVER MAINTAINED MY OPINION WAS. LOGICAL. LOGIC EMANATING FROM SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR.
MY OPINION COULD NEVER BE PROOF BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN COMMISSIONED TO UNDERTAKE A COVERT INVESTIGATION AND GET RESULTS FOR A GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY BUT YOU NEVER KNOW GIVE IT TIME....
BUT LIKE I SAID BACK THEN AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN FOR YOU RIGHT NOW THERE ALWAYS COMES A TIME WHEN YOU GOT TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT GOT TO THE POINT WITH KEN THAT IF JRB HAD ISSUED A PR UPDATE STATING THE MOON WAS MADE OF SWISS CHEESE HE WOULD HAVE GONE ALONG WITH IT!!