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Do I sense a change of tone in Lanzamustgo? Slowly but surely you will all come to realize the truth here as some are beginning to understand. Good night and watch out for the oil trucks stealing the oil from the tanks!!
You all should listen to Kenco. She is the only one on this whole board that makes any sense of the situation and also snowcrow somewhat. I can't believe so many of you are still in this POS company. This is a three ring circus! Lanza has lied his way straight through over 3 years now and you all have not a good thing to show for it. He gets richer and you get poorer-that is his game-get it! Leases, shale plays, millions in funding, new players, new wells....the list goes on and on to keep you all in his game. A few players who hold large amounts of shares continue to pop up now and then to still hold out a glimmer of hope. This will never work as a company for shareholders-it was not set up that way. No one can even figure out who holds the leases and under what percentages-only Lanza's lawyer knows that and you will never find out. I keep coming back just to make sure I know why I lost over a 100g's on this-a very hard but necessary lesson and there will be others that I am sure of. Thank god I got out last December at .10cents and jumped off the train to nowhere for I would of lost a half more and many months of dead money!!!!!
So right LGL-people forget the past so easily-just like wars and history!
Good post John, I really hope your communications with the company yield good results. It is a refreshing plan of attack and a good one at that. Should of been done long ago by the past moderators. You speak for many here and its good to see the investors concerns are being submitted to the company. As always good luck but don't let the guard down!!
Ok John whatever you say. Is he not still on the board of directors with the most voting shares? If so then he is the one still running the show from behind the curtain. As for day to day operations I would agree it is the new management if that is what you mean. I think you are a person who likes to only see the good in everyone and that is admirable but the evil is still out there and some of us will fight evil to bring about the good!!
And who gets the revenue from these new wells might I ask seeing that they are on Lanza's leases no doubt.Huge? How many times did Lanza release PR's on new wells being drilled-more than I can count. Maybe you should go back and read a few PR's from a year ago and see just what was said. Remember the past sometimes predicts the future of things but not always. Once a felon-always a felon!!
John, Excuse me but did you not say over the past couple of weeks that Joe was out of the picture and gone! You even posted and stood by the ibox news that you so displayed for everyone. Lanza is still in the directors seat as of the news release today so how can you not say you were wrong here! And the news today even stated that the new management is retaining Frohling so tell me how the PR is lying-oh I forgot all of the PR's from BDGR are lies remember! Your credibility is wide open here. Just the facts and nothing more. Share price is dropping again after the PR today-guess investors did not like what they read. You can still pick up some more cheapies later today I'm sure!
See-Lanza is still on the BOD and will be for the forseeable future! Lets see how much the new directors will pony up for Lanza's shares-bet he wants way more than they will give him thus holding this up for a long time. If the new wells come in good then the price just keeps going up so I don't see this changing. Keeping Frohling and crooks as consul does not bod well either as they are the long arm of lanza's law!! Good luck as usual as I'm sure you will need it! How many shares does Lanza hold by now?? Too many that is my guess so the PPS will still wallow in the sub .05cent range for quite awhile-mark my words......Oh John-you were dead wrong about Lanza gone now weren't you! I guess you don't know all the facts and just keep hoping for the best. Nothing personal-just a fact here.
Where do you get this ""word is"" stuff? That is not DD!!That is nothing but hearsay like on a BB board which you said is not the place to do your DD. Sounds like a contradiction to me. Give us facts backed up by verifiable documentation like a PR news release for all to see on businesswire!
John, I give you credit for having more guts than me. I have not called BDGR lately so maybe you are on to something but I would not let my guard down not even for a minute with Lanza. I know it is impossible to do DD on BDGR. You can only do that with audited financials which has never been released to my knowledge and by a third party at that. So whatever DD you do it is by listening to whomever on the other end of the phone which is weak DD. A full third party accounting of the books,assets and net profit and costs have to be determined before anyone can call this an investment. Right now it is purely speculation and way out there at best.You believe the secretary and Frohling -come on now. One thing you are right on is that you will never get any good DD on a BB board. But experience from the past is nothing to ignore either and it sure is more reliable than word of mouth from a crooks office. Hope it works out for you cause if it doesn't you know where to reach me. By the way I hate crow with salt, pepper and definitely hate hot spicy things to boot. Remember that most people learn life's lessons through experience and not reading about them.
Hi all, I have been away to give the new board a chance as John had asked. Well I see it is more of the same old BS and the sp is dropping like a rock. Why hasn't the new board issued a single press release? Guess investors don't have much confidence in the new hand picked board now do they John. When are you going to stop promoting this scam and start the process of shutting them down and sending Joe to jail. Isn't it about time? How much longer are you going to keep taking the lies upon lies? This is all an elaborate shell game with investors losing most of their money. You are now down 100 percent from a couple weeks ago and that is with all this so called good news and new management. You really should think about taking down the ibox news as it is getting old fast. Time to start listening to those of us who have lost a lot and are a lot wiser for it. Best of luck but it does not look good from where I'm standing. Hey Lou, had enough yet-time for some legal action again. You have the inside facts and are probably the most dangerous person to Lanza-go get him!!!!!
I agree John, I will stop talking about Joe starting today but If I see no change in a month or two from now I will be back to remind you of this bad dream. It would of been nice to have a proxy vote to give the shareholders some say as to what happens but that never happens here. Lets see if new management allows a company audit to set the record straight now that they are firmly in control. Good luck and god bless to you. You won't hear from me for a while now so pump up the volume loud and clear-your free to takeoff......Unfortunately I see this board as extremely biased now that us few non believers are slowly getting pushed away..Adios guys!!
Excellent point kenco!!! See-all is not as it seems......beware of the changes and don't forget the lies and history here!It is always ok to be hopeful but don't be stupid..
That website still makes me sick and nothing has changed!! No updated directors or such. Why post old news? Change is on the way-don't think so! One month from now let's see where your at with this scam of an investment..Someone has to balance the incredible enthusiasm for this new but old pump and dump!
Hey Mars-You still posting for Lou?
Let's do the math-JL,TN,FAMILY and favorite attorney who might just have shares so I see it as being equal if not in Joe's favor!! Joe has swindled many a smart people and I see this as no exception....
We shall see won't we.....Once a scam-always a scam-right! How do you know JL does not have any controlling shares? I have been right more than wrong on this stock so at least you admit the 100 million was a scam! Hope you make out here-I folded my cards way above .06 so at least I was right on one account. Hope who is holding my shares makes out on this at .10 or above!Good luck to all and may the stock go to what it is worth which is way above the .10 cents I sold it at-of course with new bonafide management which I doubt is really the truth. Joe has scuttled all new management in the past so what makes this any different? Best of luck-voice of reason-me.......
Well let's see here. It's nice to see Joe stepping down once again-he has done this before do you remember? I do and he came back and fired everyone as he has the majority of controlling shares. Today's PR was nice but was written by Joe and released by Joe. Why not the new management if they were in control on the 15th? I do not believe anything from Joe-Do you? I hope all turns out well for everyone-I really do but why not announce the PR on the newswire and only on the pinks? What happened to Summit with the 100 million-never materialized how strange. Only humble opinion aka Jane knows the answer to that one. Well time will tell who is right but history is the judging factor here and I bet this is just another Lanza scam. So party up and enjoy the 1 cent rise for wise investors know this is a real crap shoot!! Don't forget lanza's attorney is still tied into this and he was convicted of past illegal dealings which I'm sure are still true today. Take your quick profits and be thankful for that. With such good news why didn't the share price take off to the moon with so many shares traded-because there was plenty of selling to go along with the buying-probably by you know who. Wishing you all the best and hope it does turn into reality. My opinions only here at best-I do not know all the facts-just history is my lesson!!!
Well said Kenco!! I know how this crook operates and it will never be in the shareholders interest. Do you all understand what is being said here. Stop the wishful thinking and dreaming-it really is just a bad bad dream.........
Your right! But Lanza has never made any sense of anything-just a selfish no good criminal who deserves what is coming to him. Only a criminal or sociopath will understand and think like Lanza in order to figure this all out but I am afraid that there are not a lot of those types on this message board. In order to figure out your enemy you must first see the world through their eyes. You must walk their paths and understand their world. Only then will you understand and be able to overtake your target. He might be so deprived of O2 that he is no longer able to think clearly-maybe there is a logical medical excuse here that we have not figured out yet? 400 pounds is a lot of weight and one does not live long with that load hanging on oneself. My take is that as long as Lanza generates enough monthly income to support his family and lifestyle and does not get caught scamming the shareholders he will continue to act accordingly and continue to strengthen his position for that is what I would probably do.
I beg to differ. He is able to realize BD potential! Simply take all the profits which he already does and puts more wells on line to pr and then skims the profits on those. Buy back a few shares every now and then and gain more control over the company and its assets. He is the bank plain and simple. He uses your money to fund his profits. This is what he does and does it well. And don't forget Mario the son who might someday inherit the family business. Remember he is a great family man according to Lou. Family comes first!! So I don't see how he will sell or step down-it's not in his long term interest. The value to him will keep growing every year and if he were to sell where could he invest his money to do better than where he's already at-"THE OIL BUSINESS"!!! False hope by the hopeful shareholders-you have been too hopeful for too long and it's time to shut this operation down or do you want to wait another couple of years??????? I do agree that he is not bankable and he is a first class crook. If he wanted to step down he would of done it by now-don't you all think?? Summit and 100 million-You have got to be kidding me. Are you all that foolish to believe this. 100 million is enough to dig up all his leases down to 5000 feet and then some. He pulled another Lanza con job and is still laughing all the way to the bank. Tell yourself why he never has mentioned net profits-only gross. It's because he does not want to publicly be accountable for those facts-it would expose too much of his operation. Hoping and dreaming is not going to make this right-only the law and jail will bring justice to this matter.
Joe leaves and no strings attached. You bet-but there has to be a verifiable audit of the company before I get back in. But removing Joe would be a huge first step. Yahoo board is just that -full of Yahoo's-so don't believe a thing until it really happens. Hey Lou if your reading this hows the stock I recommended doing. Got me out of this mess! Go sick the lawyers on Joe and start the fight that should of been done long ago........When you stepped down you let the shareholders down even though I know you were the only one willing to stand up to him at the time. So now that he has fooled you all how about righting a wrong? It's probably too late now that he has protected himself with the overriding majority of shares. But what the f....k go for it!!!
How ya doing downapenney? Looks like edex which is the last pink on my screen just might make a small well if we are lucky. Dragonman certainly thinks so. At least when I talk to Tom he listens and communicates nicely-way more than Joe would ever do. Hope you got in on the two stocks on my screen. Ready to hit the big time!! Between me and my friends we have a few mil shares. Time to retire soon-47 and counting........At least BDGR was good for one thing-LOSES!!!!!!!
He is not releasing anything positive in the PR's as you so keenly pointed out. He is dragging this out for a reason-to slowly sink the sp and buy them back over time. With more shares he increases his majority and what shareholders are left will be silenced in any future vote. He also could be retiring shares so if and when he sells his shares will make him super rich but I think he likes his dividends(royalties) and will want to pass the company down to Mario in the near future-keep it in the family for generations to come!!!
You sir are absolutely correct in your assessment of Joe's operations!! That is exactly what is happening here and it will be forever doomed as a low priced penny stock supported by those who have false hope. He only has stock to maintain the majority of shares-kinda like an insurance policy. The number of the shares is what keeps him in business, not the cost so he could care less what they are worth give or take a few pennies. Like you said he makes his money off the top!!! Family first, shareholders last....
So What!! Do you think Joe cares-ha.. You as stockholders will never get a single drop of profit out of this scam of a company. Understand? Comprehend! All lies all the time-how many more years are you all going to wait and complain. I have made all my loses back and am now making great money again. It took guts to write off a bad purchase but thank god I did or I would be still in the same sinking boat as all you are!!! A great investor will realize a mistake and make moves to correct it one way or another. This has been going on for months now. Maybe Joe is slowly buying back all the shares so he does not have to share anything with you guys. Why should he let his cash cow go when oil is at historic highs. You are dreaming if you think he will share any of it with you. Probably paying Mario extra for the services to hide the profit. Why are all numbers released just gross and never an audit? Cause he is hiding plenty-just my opinion but it's probably right as history is my teacher here.........
LGL, Can't believe you are still in this of all people. Did you see what my sng and chq did today and over the past month. I have now equaled my loses with gains in just over a couple months. Bought heavy on margin and every share has yielded over a buck. Good luck in this POS and may Lanza get whats coming. Oh, humble opinion is probably good ole Jayne-what a joke she is!! These Lanza's are the lowest forms of life I know.
Listen Mr Opinion, Get it straight-yes I am mad as hell at all the lies I have been told by everyone involved in this POS company! I wish all the pinks would just evaporate cause most if not all are really bad investment vehicles. It is a very long shot on most and I can't see how the SEC lets these companies exist with no verifiable financials. I have learned a great lesson in these stocks and that is to steer clear of them by a huge distance. They are surrounded by crooks, pumpers, bashers and mostly dishonest people. I would like nothing more than to see BDGR go away and never exist again. It is too expensive to try to put Joe in jail and he knows it. Someday he will get what is coming-that i am sure. I could care less about your investment here as I know you are aware of this scam but other new investors who just might be reading this board for the first time will get a feeling real quick listening to people like me and dragon and kenco among others. We are here to balance if you will the pumpers who you might just be one of. I would advocate to all new investors to stay the hell away from PK stocks and only invest in firms that you can do DD on. And remember I have been right up till now and you have most certainly been wrong with no deal yet announced. Profit-only for Joe and lucky you for buying in at .02-you might get another chance at it soon.
You will lose your money just like I did. You can not do DD on this company-even you said that, so it is all just a wild guess what will nor will not happen here. This is one of if not the worst pink sheet company out there-run by a felon and dirtbag. You will realize how foolish you were but only when it is too late!!!!
Listen Mr Opinionated- I and dragon have been right far more than you have and this so called deal was supposed to of happened a long time ago. So more of the same-you POS pumpers still trying to make believers out of new investors. I will not let that happen on my watch. I think we have convinced plenty of people-why do you think the stock is dropping on such low volume of late? You lose plain and simple and I bet you lose more in the weeks to come. There is no success here and never will be-got it!!!! You will all lose just like I did so get used to it.....
Lets see- Substance backed up by facts! Don't think so from Joe or Summit.I agree that the price has held up well-small miracle. No audit=no verifiable facts so whatever the PR is it will be all hot air like all the past 100 PR's that is my guess and .25 within 2 weeks-now that is a bet I would like to bet against!!Whatever happened to the 100 million?
Oh John, This post that you wrote last week proclaiming friday and no later than monday(today) that a PR will be out for sure-BDGR going to the moon. What moonshine have you been sipping lately.Joe is out and Summit is in-you got to be kidding. And I loaded up again. You are going to lose all that hard earned money that took you years to save and minutes for Joe to steal. Come on man just admit that he has f.. you bad. Don't worry we all have gotten the shaft here just no one seems to do anything about it-just rant and rave.. I do wish you luck for I do believe you are one of the eternal believers here against all common sense.
Good post finally John....
How many times do the posters have to listen to your never on time pr releases. You have been wrong on every guess for the past two months now. You are an eternal believer! Bet no good news by Tuesday. I have been right every time on never a deal so the same ole shit will happen as usual-just my guess but a good one at that. Joe will never be out-no matter what he says just like the last time he said he was out over a year ago. Why do you think he just released the last PR that stated he was working with more than one management team. He will be there -trust me on this one-just hiding in the shadows waiting to steal more of your money and his oil-not yours!!!!
I too actually bought a couple hundred thousand shares around the same level and sold them during the early summit pump at .09-.10. The only money I ever made on this stock. Not enough to offset the huge loses at shares bought for .30-.90 each. The only way to make money here is to buy at those levels like you did so congrats for beating the odds. Suing Joe would break me as he has all your stockholder money to defend him for years-I am not stupid and will not fight a losing battle. How do you know summit is still in the mix-you an insider? Sure sounds like one to me with all your past posts. Summit is probably still around if only to collect from never paying on time Joe. And your opinion is far from humble-just another one of Joe's pumpers I bet.
Do you really think good ole Joe will just walk away and leave it all to you the shareholders after you all f.. him last fall-don't think so. And if he were to step down don't you think he will be in the picture somehow someway whether it's micromanagement or overides? You are so blind it is not even funny but its people like you that he counts on to further fund his families lifestyle-which by the way you have no idea how extravagent it really is. If he is gone totally then hell yes this could go to a buck plus but the odds are no in your favor here. You stand a better chance going to Vegas and winning money than here!!!!
Well if you hate him so much why are you buying his worthless shares? You are the pure definition of a hypocrite! Keep praying for a miracle cause that's all you have here!!
You lose and why don't you change your handle. To maybe Lanzamypal. This stock has moved nowhere in the last couple of months and will probably go down from here. Have you figured out the gross numbers yet. No you will never cause there is never any left for you shareholders-just Joe and company. Keep dreaming and hit that buy button for a few more toilet paper shares. Try looking up this one-a real winner that many are jumping into. Mxmsf. You might make something here-certainly not on BDGR. Dragon check this out.
One word-suc.........er.....You lose!!!No summit deal after 6 months-does that tell you something you have not figured out yet.
Downapenney, I have contacted all authorities on this scam. How about you do the same or don't you want to lose your penneys. I lost over a million penneys and folded my cards. Thank god I did because it was way over what it is now. And the money has been reinvested and I have made most of it back. But i still am quite bitter over all the pinks and this one in particular because of the arrogance of the lies being told to all the investors. The SEC and AG's are aware of BDGR and it is out of my hands what they eventually decide to do. I even got a letter from the SEC stating that this is not dead recently so there is still hope that justice will be served. It would help even more if others stepped forward to complain but most people are just too lazy.So yes I have been wrong as to the timeframe here of justice but will make a few calls tomorrow to refresh the minds of this scam of a company. Are you not mad enough yet to get off your a.. and make a difference here? Ask Lou if I have contacted the Mass AG office as they have talked to him. What he said I do not know but don't forget he has way over a million shares if not two so I don't think he wants to shut the company down like I do. Do the right thing and help others for a change.