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......very good question..................response depends upon what the BK ESTATE has available to pay......................
...at present......................MINUS $60MM (less some portion of TIMBER's futile clawbacks and the ITR, and probably some HUGE legal fee accrual - and the 32% contingency with BS/Emps)..................................
...now, the FDIC-R is probably negotiating haircuts with BK Claimants standing in a breadline with numbered stickers, 1-7............................then the UWBI party steps up and quietly asks what the F/ is remaining..............??????.......that's the question........
...this "case" is beginning to feel good................or maybe it's just me.................or US - US.................??????....
...do moderators need to opine, larry.......??????..........this was your idea................................
...It appears as if the FDIC "got religion" and is taking a more conciliatory approach to the historical JACKBOOT SEIZURES........
...now, WE - WE recall it may have been the OTS that ILLEGALLY SEIZED our bank...................and the OTS may have "needed to implement additional procedures prior to the Assignment of the Receiver"........per Marty.................oh really........??????.........
...accordingly, the FDIC arranged for some type of STIPULATION with the residual owners of UWB to accommodate the OTS actions..........well, I'll be doggone...................and the residual owners of UWB, dat be UWBI folks DROPPED related litigation activities......THE APPEAL.........along with other conditions.....................................???????.........
...you know, I'm started to wish that I owned some of the UWBKQ common stock.....................................just a few shares for my daughter's Roth IRA.................................
...does anyone OPINE here - other than larry and Jimmy and THE TWINS....................???????????????......
.....the devil is in the details.................................
...AIN'T NO-ONE GETTIN' IN OR OUT.............sorry..............
...okay, maybe I painted the tape this morning (12 shares plus one).......for a HUGE DUMP this afternoon...................3,000 to 4,000..............................even 4,250 if I get lucky....
...case is not over..................hasn't even begun............
...larry's only comment today is that the FDIC, FDIC-R is controlling UWBI's BK............problematic.......??????.........and where is frankie's new stock......?????????........should we ask marty.......??????....
...opinions are boring.........................does the FDIC-R have an opinion.....???????.......I'll ask marty and get back to you nice, handsome gents................................
...CSSA or BUST............that's the bottom line...............
...seriously, there are no variations..............of course, in the event of a CSSA/STIP................many outcomes are possible..............ok, 3 real IF's, really............$1.80 p/s, around $3 p/s..........and this WILD cash + frankie federal stock concoction..................or THE BUST........................
...OBVIOUS OUTCOME = total BUST, stock wipeout, fred scott gone forever, etc................we'll see.........might not be over yet but THERE SURE AREN'T ANY LEAKS...............nothing to leak, mayhaps............................
...very, very WEIRD, regardless......................VERY WEIRD.................opinionated opinions hereon...............
...BK filings/deadlines/claims/comments = HOT AIR.................
...TIMBERLY's $20K clawback and the ITR claim are not going to impact UWBKQ..................there is $60MM worth of legitimate claims on UWBI..............and these must be PAID IN FULL or at least be "satisfying" to DOGS NO: 1-7...........before DOG NO: 8 gets one dirty penny..............................
...establishing deadlines 120 days hence for frivolous court opinions is laughable B-grade lawyering.......................and sure this UWBI BK could linger for YEARS......................
...who cares.............???????................
...CSSA or BUST............that's the bottom line...............
..........DOORNAIL BANK.......................................
...deader than...............only problem is that we underSTOOD that some jackboots had a chat with frankie and frankie cracked and admitted to...............WHATEVER LARRY SAID FRANKIE COULD ADMIT TO..............??????????..........what might that be, larry......?????.................
...so after this frankie meltdown.................the JACKBOOTS crafted up a STIPULATION - - whatever the F/ that is - - and the UWB representatives DROPPED THE APPEAL.......................as a condition of this STIPULATION........................WOW...!!!!....
...minor prob: UWBI BK.............hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!.........gotta sneak thru this STIPULATION matter so as not to DISRUPT all kinds of nasty stuff in a BK (jpm, D&O recoveries, ETC)....................
...that's what the bunny told us yesterday...................if larry existed and he had an opinion..............he wouldn't give his opinion..............I would.............and that's larry's opinion..........................WHAT......???????............
...note that the UWBKQ moderators are very intelligent and handsome gents................................
...stock will probably drop to 0.01 p/s........no mystery there.....
...WE - WE dropped THE APPEAL.......for no reason.....?????.....and the other IF....................IF there is a CSSA..........which some moon rock collectors claim THERE IS.......reality............
...the FDIC-R (remember to add the R - jackboot fascists are sticklers on this tag line)..........WOULD PROCESS THE UWBI BK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE CSSA (secretly).................and what does the "C" in the CSSA represent.............conspiracy....??????.....
...am I high on PEEPS................???????..............one other question................WTF do some of my moon rock collectors do with their 1.75-million shares of UWBKQ..........??????.......sell 'em to THE TWINS for their Roth IRAs.............?????????.......
...you give the disclaimer, larry...............a----------hole...............I no longer disclaim.............
...stock is being CONTROLLED - - in some manner...................
...IMPOSSIBLE TO BUY OR SELL significant volumes.....WE HAVE PROOF.............may not be a conspiracy but trading is limited....
...what does OUR - OUR legal adviser advise: be careful but there probably is some type of STIPULATION.................PROBABLY IS SOME TYPE OF STIPULATION...............SHOULD I REPEAT THIS.....?????....................
...WE - WE are in this FREAK SHOW until the last customer walks out of the asylum...............................will be me.......or Jimmy................are these judeo christian pagan rituals ridiculous...................??????????..........WTF...........I mean I like PEEPS like all the rest of you folks but c'mon..............
...NO....jpm stated in it's response to HYPOTHETICAL HARVEY's POR that jpm wanted UWBKQ common stock in lieu of a full payout.............the 11 was switched to a 7, THE APPEAL was dropped and there has not been another word uttered publicly.......
...so is there a STIPULATION agreement which was created as an accommodation to UWB dropping THE APPEAL.............???????.......probably not.............no evidence that man walked on the moon...................just a ploy within the cold war to beat the russians........
...the bank was seized........the stock is long gone...........no appeal, no stipulation and very soon, no FRED SCOTT.........imagine that..............................
...kinda weird this stock does not drop below a penny............what's new..............????????????.........
....game over......WIPED OUT......0.0086..........................
...HUGE RELIEF........we had our bank SEIZED and that is the end....
...the residual common stock HAS NO VALUE.....none...............
...even if WE - WE rangle the full $4.4MM ITR, there are legal beagles who will get most of it and another $60MM worth of hungry and angry hyenas waiting in line.....................and the ITR posting in the BK CT PROVES THERE IS NO STIPULATION..........
...did you hear me: THERE IS NO STIPULATION..............no anything...........that dirty penny lying on the ground looks good at this point.................THE END.....................
...SEC SHOULD DELIST THIS STOCK......NOW........................
...there is no value......no residuals....no STIPULATION........
...prolonging the agony violates the SEC governance statement.....
...seriously............END THIS NIGHTMARE.......the stock is WORTH NOTHING.........................
...every PATIENT in the asylum claims they are not CRAZY.......................and they may not be.............
...liquidation = $5.50 p/s in frankie federal s&l.................
...extermination = 0.0055 p/s........POL specfies 0.00 to #8......
...hybrid liquidation via a CSSA = $2.22 p/s, cash per SD......
...knock it off or else = $1.25 p/s, cash SD................
...fredscott-opinion-ation = $3.00 p/s.....cash SD............
...current s/p = 0.0352 p/s................larry-ation..........
...refer to jpm's comments in the original POR............
...never seen any reference to the NOL but agree the FDIC wants the holding company liquidated................
...WE - WE believe the ITR decision and the D&O surety setttlement are the last pieces of the STIP/POL puzzle...................whether there is any money for Claimants 1-8 or not..................................
...why is this entire situation so DOGGONE weird...........?????????..................and WE - WE have a long way to go before CLOSURE..................................
...F/ disclaimers...................who cares...........???????....
......this stock is WORTHLESS..........0.00..................
..it's so OVER.................DOORNAIL.....................
...grab the onion and bail out asap...................stock should be delisted and WIPED OUT....................exterminated.........
...un---M/F-ing---believable................NIGHTMARE+++++++++....
...SEWAGE.............radioactive.......................
...filing is a "positioning" move re: the ITR...................
...smokes out the STIP, imo..............the ITR goes to UWBKQ/UWBI and has nothing to do with THE BANK..............we'll see how the FDIC-R responds..........................who or what would get the $4.4MM, if the CT gives it to us.......??????..........
...did we drop the APPEAL for some concocted confidential STIPULATION............................????????.......just asking........
...where is the POL, btw....................
...opine, knock it off or else............tyia.........
.....jpm wants UWBKQ common stock from the bk estate....??????.....
...let the FDIC protect us............??????????...............
...definitely some weird "proceedings" starting to leak............
...maybe we should knock it off...........I just want some "or else" candy.....................
...no more opinions...................unless THE BANK wants one....
...jpm wants stock valued at 3.5 dirty pennies p/s.............and they think Jimmy and I are crazy...................?????......
....."KNOCK IT OFF"....................."OR ELSE".................
...WHEREAS, NOW HERE AND FOREVERMORE, the UWBKQ mantra is officially certified and will be referred to as the AFOREMENTIONED...
...TO WIT, all comments, posts, quips, lies and sensationalist proverbs made in any manner with any association in connection to UWBI, UWBKQ, UWB, FCNCA, Venable LP, FRED SCOTT ENTERPRISES LLC, THE HASTINGS LAW FIRM, larry d. kaplan and friends, and all parties named in the United Western Bancorp. Chapter 11 (7) proceedings shall first clarify said statement with the AFOREMENTIONED.......
...there is probably NOT a STIPULATION formed as a consideration relative to the APPEAL, now dropped, and the share price of UWBKQ is determined to be of questionable value, or lower...........
...ACCEPTED AND AGREED TO, this 17th day of April in the year of our Lord, 2014.....................................
signed_______________________________________
____________James Anthony Piersall
.......BELIEVE IN THE MIRACLE......................................
...WILL HAPPEN...........IN HIS GLORY.....................
.....POL determines THE END.......not Roddy nor Campbell.......the SEC may have some input......we vote the FDIC as the party which is running this peep show.........at least for UWBKQ shareholders and BK hedgehogs nos: 1-7.........................................
...that Bombay Sapphire is great stuff.................with diet tonic and fresh lime juice (can't buy limes anywhere - $4 each before they're grabbed....???????)................................
...btw, still going with the STIP ($2.22 p/s)........didn't want to offend any of my friends hereon - - being that it is holy week for the pagans among us....................
...do I still give the opinion disclaimer, larry......?????.....not sure since we are no longer an item.........................
....filings: TIMBER clawback = meaningless DRIVEL..................
...that's what B-grade Co-BK-Trustee attorneys do.......nothing.....
..."KNOCK IT OFF"................"OR ELSE"....................
...knock what off, larry......?????.......the teasing of you or the lies about some fairy tale STIP I post daily on social media websites.............???????........or both......??????.........I'm just trying to get out of this mess for a DIME PER.........and I need to sucker some of these little people into taking the bait.....ok.....??????.........no law against that, larry............
...or else what, larry...........you gonna BMA........?????.......oh, you're gonna hire Kirby D. Behre to SUE ME...................??????.................isn't Kirby your pitbull associate who scared the FDIC into the $120MM CSSA..........?????????...............go ahead and sue, larry......
...should our bank have been seized...........??????...........
...donettes don't have opinions, larry..................
...overpaid legal beagles dancing around the STIP...............
...there are $4.4MM worth of dirty pennies lying on the ground in Denver and nobody is picking up even one................ok, I did pick up a few..................but who cares......??????.......
...are you larry's intermediary........???????............
...and finally, do you want to buy some UWBKQ.........very cheap..........???????????...............
...we're kinda thinking the pink bf might need an enhancement......
...it's just not working...................my fault.............
...remind us why anyone addicted to nicotine would smoke watered-down mulch...............
...getting rich and famous is not easy................that first $10MM is the toughest...............trust me...................
...CORRUPT JACKBOOTS ILLEGALLY SEIZED OUR BANK....................
...we believe, kind sirs, that the aforementioned FACT prevails.....................in all of our mutual enlightenments....
...we would not be here if honey bobo did not conspire with frankie, jr. to increase the FCNCA presence in Boulder and Denver.......................for a job and other considerations.......and then there was that FDIC contempt of court allegation..............amy's blatant COI............the insider trading whistleblower receipt....................etc...........
...FASCISM rocks..................not ethics or morality...........and it is holy week..........imagine that.......
.......FRANKIE: WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF THE UWBKQ SETTLEMENT.........
...accordingly, please make a public announcement......tyia.......
...at the current trade volume...I'm stuck dumping for another three years......................ya think Tradeinturds will have a TIMBER TYSON HOAX/UPDATE before the end of 3 years......??????.....
...IF - IF I can slicker one of you mental midgets into believing there is some FAIRY TALE STIPULATION.........mayhaps I could get out of this NIGHTMARE within the next few months............or before the POL is released showing UWBKQ shareholders get.........NOTHING........NADA.......ZILCH....................
...are we all going insane..................or just me and jimmy.....................??????????........................
...those chocolate donettes I raved about yesterday..........cost me $2.22.............very weird........the ice mocha grande (lite ice + 3 splendas) I had with the donettes cost $4.27........................
...do I disclaim this drivel, l............??????............
.....instachat message.....cannot comment further re: 1 for 40.....
...nothing about this "case" surprises me although the only tangible information we have is "nothing".................
...I'm not defending anything....UWBKQ is worth 0.00 p/s...........
...do the math............$330 cash balance and $60MM in claims.....
...the deadest doornail in the history of doornails.............
...POL is not even worth the paper to put it on...................
...most disgusting situation since fascism became popular in amerika...................................
...sorry to disappoint, but there is a STIP/Santa Claus...........
...100%.............only UNKNOWN.......only UNKNOWN is WTF gets distributed within the BK proceedings..............seriously......
...for whatever reason, there are numerous (?????) complications within OUR - OUR BK....................no one WE - WE are paying will comment...............or even acknowledge that UWB ever existed..................another clue...................
...go ahead and walk in front of the train.....................
...the BB PP or the 1 for 40...........????????.................
...wewonders why nobody wants that ITR........
...Bollinger Bands showing pivot plateau at 0.05..................
...resistance at 0.0575..........................................
...pete puma/dodd-frank/sec/fdic AIN'T gonna allow huge volumes to trade until the POL is signed by the BK judge..............buying or selling.................................
...good time to grab as many little mini-blocks as possible........4,000, 7,000, 27,000 shares........etc.............5.5 pennies p/s.....................problem is nobody with a BRAIN is or should be selling.........................aimho................
...there are few opportunities in life for little folks to get in on some BIGTIME payola...............nickels for tommy j's is a chance to LIVE THE GOOD LIFE....................taste it and get back to US - US....................very cool......trust me.......
...I'm burnt out on these disclaimers, larry..............WHERE THE F/ IS OUR MONEY..............????????.....................
...Bollinger Bands are forming a pivot plateau.....................
...fantastic buying opportunity at these price levels...........
...demand for low nicotine, genetically-altered TOBACCO is only going to increase, exponentially......................
...per-share price support for 22-C might form at $2.58.................................
........PTL and GLTA...........................
...AND FOLLOW ME on the Yahoo! Finance xxii message board...................................
...after the POL is released (could be only 2 words: claimants satisfied).................SEC issues announcement of about 5 words: UWBKQ shareholders to receive $3 per share (ok, 6 words....????)...........
...Heather Draper ain't gonna get a settlement news story outa such brief statements.............which is the whole purpose of the STIP...............the related monies are insignificant............to the JACKBOOTS, not to US - US.........these are larry's opinions.............neither Jimmy nor I have any opinions on this "matter".........................(those chocolate donettes were good, btw)......................
...ASSUMPTIONS: the D&O suits/recoveries and the JPM/FDIC resolutions are believed to be the last STEPS............in our stipulations...................................could be more and possibly some other minor details................doesn't affect the digestion of my donettes..................................
...focus on the BIG PIC......................sure, even Rev. missionary mesa's ice mountain climb photo is cool..............he's on the right track although $30 per might be a tad HIGH............but the $5.50 # is in the range of my wheelhouse..............HIS, also.......................the opinionator.............
...would've been over a long time ago...........................
...were there NOT a bizarre STIPULATION with the FDIC......complicated with the BK and confidentiality agreements....and some BIGTIME payouts..................
...longer we go on.................bigger the ultimate distribution.....
...btw, WTF am I doing on this message board on a Sat.............?????...........draw your own conclusion.........
...not you, larry....................larry already knows my GAME PLAN...................................now opine, larry.........
...predicting a quickie BK POL with no details of any kind...........other than claimants are 'satisfied'......
...SEC may even make final announcement of any distributions to UWBKQ shareholders...............when and how much.....THE END....
...there are about 5 of US - US who control the 26MM shares.......and unfortunately, Guy made THE DECISION...........whatever or however much that was..............
...I would have voted to follow thru with the APPEAL.....the Billy Blair/HIGHLANDER CAPITAL folks controlled nearly 20MM shares and they backed Guy...............and then Guy settled..............ALSO, it just might be for more than the $1.25 p/s................and there could be some FCNCA stock in the deal......we'll see......
...more informed folks than me claim UWBKQ shareholders are getting $5.50 p/s worth of something........................
...this NIGHTMARE might be getting FUN - - BIGTIME FUN - - very soon.................................opinions hereon...........not sure who's......................
......no.....26MM shares (out of 29.26MM total) of UWBKQ are owned by just a few hands and these shares are LOCKED in - - - until the settlement proceeds are distributed.......................
...that frankie/johnnie conspiracy theory has legs, it turns out..........STIP, some believe, is for "settlement" with claimants 1-7, probably at 80% or $48MM, and then our $50MM, pre-BS/EMPs of 32%.........................larry's not good at math, but that scenario kinda looks like $1.25 p/s when the SMOKE clears........BIGS contend Guy's "50" could be much more.........we'll see..........or larry will...............these are his opinions........
...not sure what the FCNCA connection to the STIP money is.......FDIC might be getting the STIP funds separately.......no leaks of any kind re: FCNCA stock directly to UWBKQ/UWB..........clearly, however, something very mysterious regarding all of this mess is being process secretly in OUR - OUR BK - - by the FDIC..............a "7"...........too weird...............
...aimho..............ok ok, some of these facts are my opinions..................
...why is the FDIC controlling every aspect of OUR BK....??????...
...I know the answer................STIP provides for the FDIC to navigate the BK..........and what do we care........??????.......
...UWBKQ had over $60MM in twice-registered BK claims........and less than $4,000 in cash.....................there is the co-beneficiaries on the ITR escrow but nobody has ever mentioned the ITR in the BK CT..............$4.4MM..........whiz water......
...we're going with the conspiracy theory today............why not............????..........beats 3.52 pennies per.............
...conspiratorialists BELIEVE frankie and johnnie were caught in a compromising position of some sort.........................and the FDIC became aware of some "problems" with the assigning of the Receiver........amy was just a rubber stamp shill...........
...anyhoot.............fdic advised against the BK but Guy couldn't gamble not to.......................and the BK gave US - US more leverage, ultimately.........................WE - WE simply have to get through the BK process................and JPM, one of our claimant/creditors decided to pick a fight with the FDIC in our venue..........apparently, JPM wants some common stock bec. JPM knows about the STIP/distributions.......................no prob, LT...........
...am I overly chatty today, larry...........?????........if so, larry, then you tell the nice folks that this is your opinion...........I'm still not speaking......??????.........