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Mitchman I didnt think of that. I thought the only suckers would be us on IHUB LOL Well there's not much we can do about that. Plus no one here believes it will even happen including myself... However if it does happen it would be smart to be prepared for it. Personally I don't think I could confront them without emotion and would be best just listening. I think we should compile all of our questions and have a single spokeman handle the conference. Someone that knows that they will be able to keep there composure. I'm not going to keep pushing any of this. I would have liked to have been prepared if it did happen but WTF the moneys already gone so who really gives a you know what>
Hey Joe and anyone else interested in the conference call. If it actually happens I think we should do as Joe suggested and come up with a list of questions. If we all just start jumping in, bashing, argueing and making accusations, it might end before it gets started. I'm not at all familiar with how this works and would be happy to take part in an organized plan to lay things out in a rational-unemotional format. Any feed back on a plan would be welcome
I've got some ideas on how we can organize but really don't care how we do it as long as it's not chao's
I sure would like to know where they're hiding those 2 oil rigs .. Maybe they turned them into scrap metal for the Koreans or who ever that scrap metal deal was with. What a joke. Please prove me wrong..
Right on the money KingZ
PEOPLE stop the madness. I posted on here one day and have been reading and buying this thing for months. Do they have a 12 step programs for this kind of stuff. Your darned DD, enthusiasm, excitment etc. etc has sucked me back in. Truely want to be a believer but as someone else just posted, have seen and heard everything. The surest of the surest pinky has never paid out big for me. Buy low sell high on the momentum has been the only thing that has worked for me down here. HOWEVER it feels like this could be the exception. This next week is going to be very telling or will it be more of the same in pinksville? My money for now is firmly planted with game changer. I might flip a little but mostly I'm loooooooooooooooooooooooooong Go OPMG
if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck it must be a duck. Or in this case if it lies like a Gandy if it decieves like a Gandy who can it possibly Be? OMG it's Gandy
Guys don't forget that Inwestor1 was the only one "that I'm aware of" that got his divy. He even showed us a copy of it. Probably just a coincidence..
Thanks KingZ :}
Hey King Zulu you got me thinking about Gandys personality and I remembered I knew someone who had very similiar traits. I would not be to surprised if it is a live conference call or at least I hope so because it would be extremely entertaining
Pathological liars - or "mythomaniacs" - may be suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder.
Some Characteristics:
•Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.
•One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them.
•They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs).
•Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment.
•They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior.
•Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?).
Another WikiAnswers contributor adds:
•They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't.
•They add exaggerations to every sentence.
•They change their story all the time.
•They act very defensively when you question their statements.
•They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't.
An alternate 'checklist':
•Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth.
•Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc.
•Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say.
•May have a personality disorder.
•Extremely manipulative.
•Has been caught in lies repeatedly.
•Never fesses up to the lies.
•Is a legend in their own mind.
NOPE, NO DIVYS HERE
Thanks Joe.. Good to see your still with us. Hopefuilly someday sooner rather than later you can get more involved on the board again when we start to see some green.
Hey guys anyone know what's up with Joe. If anyone would have a clue as to what would be in the pr it would be him. Be cool if things did start to move again. Crazier things have happened.. or so I hear LOL This is the most interesting position I've ever been involved in.
Thanks Kingpingde
Oh I forgot. Was'nt yesterday the day that they were supposed to be listed on the Berlin exchange? Does anyone know what the status of that is?
I hope your right because I'm buying more :) Rolling the dice , it's going to be sevens or snake eyes. Actually starting to like the odds now. Can't lose much more but the potential on the up side has got me scrambling for funds
Wapsi That's what I thought LOL Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
Hey skyesfan I don't understand what your trying to say here. Would you like to elaborate?
I'm a person who dosnt know the first thing about companys that do what PGIE has done. If I were them and saw that no one was interested in this stock any longer I would feel free to do what ever I want with little fear of retaliation from the suckers, I mean shareholders of this thing. Major reverse split comes to mind. Possibly letting the stock sit and rot while I raped the european suckers, I mean shareholders. Maybe a BK. What would you do?
I wonder if a tip to the I.R.S. might get something going? Oh I'm quite sure that they're more honest with the I.R.S. than they've been with us shareholders
Stock Hippie.. what do you mean the fake-communications continue?
Wapsi.. I'm with you on that private message
Why don't I sell my shares? What's it to you what I do with my money?
JOE do you really think he cares? How do these people sleep at night.
Now I'm getting it. Wapsi and or no dummy did a good job of laying it all out. So now what? How do we get retribution?
thanks yankyfan. I'm sort of getting it now. I saw where irce got 5k in december to pump the stock on media sites. The wall refers to a place where we can make comments on pgie? It looked almost like a new pgie unless they just got signed up. There were no comments ha ha yet:).. I know I'm still missing the point or points of the relationships between the different partys. In laymen terms can you explain to me what all this means to you? It would be totally and very much appreciated. Is all of this leading up to a new pump and dump campaign by the characters at PGIE?
I sure wish I knew what you guys were talking about. This stuff is above my limited knowledge ... I only know that mczeal is on the board of irce and he forgot to mention his incredible performance over at PGIE-- wtf?
Before buying this position I would like to suggest you check out PGIE and it's principles. Minor DD will show new scam shaping up.
Hey what's the name of this game? Is it follow the scam or follow the scammers? 6.29 million shares... Maybe Pgie changed it's name to irce... I guess this is there way of paying back our losses. LOL Im in
I hear ya. I think the determining factor over all will be the value of Illume. If they have a lot of assets and even better a positive cash flow we could be valued higher even with a higher a/s. I find it hard to believe that OPMG would add to the a/s and take on more debt. That would be dilution and not smart. Than there's always the people that will be in the merger. Intangable as far as value but could be priceless in the short term and long term. Hell I don't know about this stuff, Im just hoping they know what there doing and I've got to believe they do
Double thanks HMB... Hey I did'nt connect on the date thing until you just mentioned it. I don't really believe in signs and hidden meanings but I'm happy to make an exception with 02/12/12 2012. Sweet coincidence if anything. I think it takes a lot of courage and belief when your in pinksville and you see your investment crash like that only to buy more. I sold quick when it started to crash but that was than. Been burned quite a bit down here in the pinks. You guys need to know that your constant DD on this and belief in the product has kept me involved enough to jump back in. Now for the first time I can say that I'm here to see this get played out.
Stuff like this blows me away: Berdboy wrote
IMHO we are witnessing what will probably be the beginning of the wildest story coming out of the pinks in history.... this is shaping up to be one of the most monumental achievement's in the history of public safety.. lets keep up the good work on DD and keep our sights ahead...OPMG
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Thanks Tutt.. You guys really do make people feel welcome and Carjockey from what I've read here you're no dummy and I've no doubt you've averaged down. Exciting times ahead guys. Go OPMG
LOL Carjockey I think you misunderstood what I said. I got scared and sold. It was moving down to hard and fast for me at the time and I did'nt have enough faith in it to average down. Now that I'm a believer I guess I'm lucky because I my average is only around .0124. I just realized that I might even get even tomorrow. GO GO GO OPMG
Thanks Dischino.. From what I've read here it looks like you guys covered all the bases. Funny how things go. There was so much speculation about the CES convention as to why it appeared to be a total bomb. One would have thought that all the bases were covered but correct me if I'm wrong, no one thought it was because of a possible merger. My only concern here is what will the price in dilution be and will it be offset by the assets being brought to the table. As has been pointed out on this board, the BOD has some savvy business people and one would hope that the move has been well thought out.
Thanks Carjockey. Your definitly one of the longs I was referring to. I picked up another 200K on Friday after I read about the merger. To be honest I picked up some around .07 a while back but when it took that tumble I bailed. I won't be bailing any more. If anything I will be bailing my money into it this time.
Hello OPMGers. First time posting on this puppy. Been buying up shares on and off for the last 2 months and reading most of the posts along the way.I was totaly discouraged with what did'nt go down at the CES convention as some of you were. Now I must say I'm excited about the new merger about to happen soon and have come to be a believer in the potential of OpmG. I would like to say that it's nice to see most of the heavy bashing stop.I don't have any problem with people talking about there doubts, worrys and questioning facts. However I don't see anything positive with beating up something you've poured your money into unless of course you have an agenda. I would also like to acknoledge the longs here that have stayed firm with there belief in OPMG even in the face of bashers and the lack of news comming from the company. The DD hear has been spectacular. Thanks for being here and GO OPMG
Hey King Zulu I hear you loud and clear. I think that anyone doing some DD at this point would be able to see and read what a dog this has turned out as. I don't see anyone touting or pumping this dog.Nine out of ten posts are bashing, threatening or acknowledging sueing or filing complaints with the SEC. I would think that anyone throwing money at this would be doing it knowing it's a hugh risk and are betting on this as a outside long shot a pump or better. I'm all for no one being ripped off or falling for the on going scam. I also don't have a problem with people going the legal route against them. Although lawsuits and investigations would close them up even quicker. I'm a gambler whose down 5k and trying to get some back. We all do what we've got to do. I'm still going to buy more at .0001. The only thing I'll do different this time is cross my fingers LOL Good luck to you and all of us.
Agreed bro..
From what some of these guys have said, It's already being done, lawsuits filed and sec complaints. I thought about jumping on that wagon but decided it's foolish for the moment. I just don't see the point of throwing in the towel while there's still a shot and something happening. If they do something stupid like not fixing the price here while Berlin opens up big, than I can see ripping them a new one. At this point a few more months, even 4 months until they are listed on the Berlin exchange is not going to hurt anyone more than we've already been hurt .. What a total disapointment this pig has turned out to be.
Thanks for the advise. Been there done that. I've seen a few come back from the dead, maybe I'll get lucky.
I'm still not buying the total scam. Although I'm going to file a report like eveyone else I still think there's a pin point of daylight. Why, I say why would Gandy write Joe with more BS. It makes no sence for him to do it. It goes to .0001 and I buy another 20 million and shoot for the inside straigt flush.
Hey I'm willing to take the 15 minutes as well. I was wondering if it would be legal for us to threaten them with legal action if they don't show a good faith effort like buying up the .0003's and 4's?