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Nice call there Art,
Tried to join you but missed.
I think you touched at bottom there.
What did you get filled at by the way - .87 ??
Tech
Re: Naked shorting
Just looking for a little debate and some consensus on the subject.
For instance I obtained some good insight and references from this board on this subject.
Those posts perhaps might deserve a link on another board devoted to the subject ??
I think there should be increased awareness with the possibility of enjoining I HUBS 1'000's into a lobby to be reckoned with.
At least to be noticed.
It seems the SEC has chosen to abrogate its responsibilties here for decades .........
This to me is also another example of the SEC having rules for the big guys and another set for individuals !
Morning everyone,
This is turning out to be a gem of a board.
Thanks to all those who are so willing to share their valuable knowledge and experience with the rest of us.
I would like to elicit the boards opinion on the use of a seperate board on the subject of
Naked Shorting
Its certainly a subject off debate and it appears to be on quite a lot of investors minds.
It should be, it threatens to errode market confidence.
Perhaps it should be the subject of its own board here at IHub.
Perhaps we could formulate some action to force the SEC to enfoce THEIR own rules ! !!!
Thanks Lowtrade
And for your previous posting,
Very interesting, very informative.
Thats one I shall 'Keep'
Wolfrun
Yes thats some of what I have been reading about.
Its a game of pass the parcel or the hot potato which just goes on and on.
Eventually they get lodged in some offshore hedge fund or some such dummy.
But they have done their damage and made a few honest investors a bit poorer in the process.
I fear that there are so many 'ether' shares that if they were to be an accounting it would dilute a companies account to ruin.
And thats the other issue which is worrying.
There seem to be naked shorters out there setting themselves up to ruin companies.
1)Because they are potential competitors.
2) Because THEY dont like the companies.
Now in this day and age wouldnt it be possible to have computing accountability to trace the ownership/whereabouts of every companies shares.
I would for instance want my batch of shares to have a unique tag allocated and to be able to trace there whereabouts.
I know its a massive undertaking but there are some clever minds out there.
How about a form of electronic barcoding perhaps ??
Do you or Lowtrade know of an active board here which addresses the issue uniquely by the way ?
Thanks Lowtrade,
I'm going to think about what you've said a do a little more research.
Its a good day for it !
Did like your chart example.
Excellent
Thanks
Very interesting and informative Lowtrade,
I am trying to get back up to speed (havent traded for some years!)
My how the technology has changed things.
I am (as I am sure we all are) reading into and concerned more and more by naked shorting.
The more I read the more concerned I become
My point being that is there a point to TA when the market is being 'skewed' so much by naked shorting that (and you gave an excellent illustration) it isnt a fair marketplace on which to base TA.
Incidentally has anyone found a way of detecting blatant naked shorting at all yet.
Thanks for this site Tech bear
I'm learning a lot !
Good to see you back Rocky
The TA Board makes sense
Getting some more here !
Sure enough
Here they come
).57 !
Sebass Caradoc,
Thanks for taking over.
Rocky sad to see you go
Perhaps this might help the forum and 'some' of the posters to it.
You might consider any of these before posting anything.
Each one means a lost argument or invalid statement and therefore a waste of everyones time.
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
Argument from "authority".
Argument from adverse consequences (putting pressure on the decision maker by pointing out dire consequences of an "unfavourable" decision).
Appeal to ignorance (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).
Special pleading (typically referring to god's will).
Begging the question (assuming an answer in the way the question is phrased).
Observational selection (counting the hits and forgetting the misses).
Statistics of small numbers (such as drawing conclusions from inadequate sample sizes).
Misunderstanding the nature of statistics (President Eisenhower expressing astonishment and alarm on discovering that fully half of all Americans have below average intelligence!)
Inconsistency (e.g. military expenditures based on worst case scenarios but scientific projections on environmental dangers thriftily ignored because they are not "proved").
Non sequitur - "it does not follow" - the logic falls down.
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc - "it happened after so it was caused by" - confusion of cause and effect.
Meaningless question ("what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?).
Excluded middle - considering only the two extremes in a range of possibilities (making the "other side" look worse than it really is).
Short-term v. long-term - a subset of excluded middle ("why pursue fundamental science when we have so huge a budget deficit?").
Slippery slope - a subset of excluded middle - unwarranted extrapolation of the effects (give an inch and they will take a mile).
Confusion of correlation and causation.
Straw man - caricaturing (or stereotyping) a position to make it easier to attack..
Suppressed evidence or half-truths.
Weasel words - for example, use of euphemisms for war such as "police action" to get around limitations on Presidential powers. "An important art of politicians is to find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the public
Courtesy of Carl Sagan !
Hope it helps maintain the high standards of the board
The best to ALL
Thanks Art
Agreed Doubloon
Though he may have done us a bit of a favor hopefully!
Could be some cheapos coming because of this pump.
Will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow.!
Been a bit of a non event day all round really.
Feel for you Doubloon,
Its 15.00 Z now and ESSA is up a cent on the day!
Its already back at your mid .60's!
J Ledbed has maybe given a good stock a bad name for now unfortunately?
Thanks again for the board.
It'll happen
I think your probably right.
Will do a bit more DD with your help of your new board.
Thanks
Really in 2 minds about Lebed.
Caused some chaos with EZTO in the end it seems.
Now it has to settle down to its steadier growth we trust.
A good day to you and all the board here.
Ohhh thanks Doubloon an ESSE Board,
Understand thats a Lebed pump/ pick today by the way
Very interesting Caradoc
Thanks
Would you go on to then substitute one envelope for Mylar and see if your mates think it will 'fly' even better maybe !??
Thanks Joe,
MLXO
Difficult one
But you hit it again
The best to you!
Morning all
Thanks for the headup EZ (Mr Goodtrade too!)
Patience Pays ??!!
Oil,
Whats your take on the Alaskan drilling permit approval in the House this week.
I have read so far
a) there's only 6 month supply of oil !
b) It will take 10 years to get it on stream.
Will it be of significance or not in your opinion?
Have you identified any key palyers here.
Thanks
have a good w/e!
MLXO - How low can it go ??
As EZ said
A enigma for too long
For the longs ??
I'm holding
Nite Nite ??
I know your an expert at making dough though !
Have a well earned one Rigs
And thanks
Morning Rig,
Making Pasta today ?
Joy,
Sorry yes
Thought you got in again right at the bottom there at 0.20.
I'd have done the same but am probably heavy enough in them for now.
best of the Irish to you !
Think you would have been a lot better if you had put that question to Lebed, dont you ?
GTEL
Looks like you made 4 cents in about 15mins Joy !
Humm - not just Irish Luck then !
Nice one again EZ
GTEL
Yep really took a beating.
Good chance to get in.
Looks to have stood up quite well to it.
They seem to be recruiting some solid and interesting personnel for credibility.
Interesting times!
Your in depth research is laudable.
As Rocky has said time and again, this company is not just about the Strat.
Perhaps the commonality is just what you hit upon ' they all speak spanish'!
Magicmoney is aimed at mainly Spanish speaking South Americans, (Mexicans too) and Asians who remit their weekly wage to their families without Western Union or other predatory bankers taking there (execisive) cut ?? !!
The focus caused by events is now of course on the Strat.
But if they are continuing with building their other subsidiaries it just lends strength to the company as a whole doesnt it ?
Heres his post . Makes ya wonder about Tipsters doesnt it !!
Good w/e to all.
Thanks for EZTO and others EZ and y'all
Lebed.biz Stock Alert --> EZTO. LOLOL
The stock I am picking to become our next huge Internet play is EZTO. EZTO closed this week at $0.111. I wanted to tell you about EZTO right away so that you have all weekend to research it.
I am ever more confident about EZTO than I was when I discovered SHRN and GRU. I believe EZTO is extremely undervalued right now and will be a huge gainer in the short-term.
EZTO owns and operates all of the following web sites:
ez2companies.com - EZTO's corporate web site
ez2ask.com - EZTO's search engine
ez2auction.com - EZTO's video auction site
ez2rent.com - EZTO's real estate rental web site ez2mortgage.com - EZTO's mortgage web site ez2date.com - EZTO's online dating web site ez2vacation.com - EZTO's online travel web site ez2roommate.com - EZTO's roommate finder web site ez2speak.com - EZTO's telephone service web site ez2diet.com - EZTO's weight loss web site ez2movies.com - EZTO's online DVD rental web site ez2swing.com - EZTO's golf web site
EZTO also signed a letter of intent to acquire jet99.com another online travel site.
EZTO is competing with GOOG, EBAY, HOMS, TZOO, NFLX, and so many other huge Internet giants! EZTO could eventually become a giant itself!
Say outloud to yourself right now the names of some of EZTO's sites: ez2ask.com, ez2auction.com, etc. They are so ez2 remember! The entire EZTO brand is really going to start catching on.
There are only 122 million shares outstanding. SHRN ran to $0.178 with 300 million shares outstanding. That's the same as EZTO running to $0.437 but I believe EZTO has so much more potential than SHRN.
A lot of eyes are already beginning to focus on EZTO. The chart looks amazing. I am telling you about EZTO at the perfect time. The big breakout should be coming next week.
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My firm Lebed & Lara, LLC, has been compensated by a third-party (CLX & Associates, Inc.) $25,000 cash for a one-month EZTO investor relations contract. I also own 935,000 shares of EZTO that I purchased in the open market and may sell at any time. Never invest into a stock we discuss unless you can afford to lose your entire investment. For our full disclaimer goto: http://www.lebed.biz/disclaimer.htm
Jonathan Lebed
Lebed.biz
Staff
Just how 'thin' are they though Rocky,
The article doesnt say.
And thats the main criteria
Its 13" wide and as long as you like ?
Thanks for the heads up on ASTI EZ,
What a call !
What timing !
Morning EZ and everyone,
Thanks for EZTO !
Yesterday was a banner one.
Like the new board too
Thanks
Thanks for this board EZ and everyone
Nice crowd you have.
I'me new here and learning.
So take no notice but
Anyone know whats with
UNQT
Seems very large volume (46 M)
traded today between 0'003 - 0.007 .
???? !!!!
Have a good w/e all
Thanks PIT
Helps me too.
Up until now I thought you guys were real freindly with all those LOL's
Apparently its not Lots of Love then !!
Have a good w/e all
Bye Bye AWACS too !?
Being tested hard - but holding very well.
Good weekend everyone.
Apologies all
Forgot to include the link to Verns piece.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SNWR&read=2318
Hallo Rocky and all,
I am new to this board but so glad I found it.
I am excited by, and committed to GTEL.
I have been and continue to do my DD on this even though already heavily in some weeks ago.
In case it hasnt been aired for a while here is a post I came across from the designer. Its worth a read even now.
Perhaps it will help Newguy too.
A couple of things maybe you Techs who have been into this seemingly awaiting its sucess far longer than I.
I quite understand how the Strat can keep in Geostationary orbit by GPS controlled motors but how is a precise altitude maintained, given that there are ? diurnal changes.
Thanks again for your board.
We are all a little nervous I suppose as well as exited at the prospects.