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Had to jump back in. .01 break imminent.
I want my Braveheart Sticky back. whhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Float locked?
HOLD
Crap, out of posts again.
MYEC
Apparently all I have to do is put 30k on the bid and it takes off out of range. Been walking my bid up to the new ask and price keeps running away from me. Get back here you jerk!
MYEC
OoOooO 8s already. Yeehaw.
"I am extremely unhappy that this sh*t has happened. I am sitting here with $15,000 cash and right now I cannot buy any more because my ROTH IRA is at SCOTTRADE. I tried to buy $15,000 worth of MYEC this past week @.0023 then .0024 and could not. Everyday last week I tried to buy and could not. "
Dont IRAs have a cap of 8grand a year or something? Unless you liquidated other positions to free up the capital? But if it was such a big deal timing wise, why not try something different instead of trying the same thing day after day to no avail? Given scottrades antics they are clearly in no hurry to speed up the process.
Ed and MYEC will get DTC eligible once they find a member to recommend them. You can hold Ed responsible partly if you want, but the intraday pulling of the plug by Scottrade is the real culprit here. Clearly some shady activity pulled NOT in the best interest of the customer. Wouldnt be suprised to see some other excuse once Ed solves the issue, but then again enough eyeballs are watching them already I think...
And accounts can be moved. If you woulda switched right away when this sitch happened youd already have full access...if you were looking at MYEC at that time. I heard its 75bucks to move accounts fully but not sure if the IRA is different...cant imagine its much different as long as its IRA to IRA.
I wonder if you found the right broker that theyd allow a transfer and would advance you the funds as long as you provided them the right info to prove you have the capital. I know other peeps got some sweet hookups like free trades or upgrades like Etrade PRO.
Make lemonade out of lemons, or some crap. Lol.
Crap 1 post left.
MYEC
Yea, simply as a function of mathematics. Google and amazon also trade waaayyy higher PPS but market valuations are consistent of a high growth PE, regardless of share structure. A marketcap is a marketcap is a marketcap. Any investors who decides not to buy a company based on too big of a share structure deserves to miss out. Its what you get for those shares that matters, not a superficial quantity. Having a millionnshares of a billion float is the same this as having 100k shares with 100million float. Same value...one wont trade better than the other or be worth more or less than the other.
MYEC will be able to achieve dollars, even tens of dollars, without a RS. The revenue potential and scaleability of this concept will allow that. Yea, qualifying for NASDAQ would obviously be faster if we reversed, albeit superficially. But if/when MYEC sees .40, we know its going to a buck, and so on. The difference of being able to uplist will probably be within a matter of a months.
The float really isnt that big in comparison to the whole market. It could be better, it could be much worse. But doing a RS will achieve very little with this particular company because growth should be swift. If this company does whats its poised to do the share structure will be, and should be, an afterthought.
But peeps gotta nitpick something while we are waiting ;)
Crap out of posts again.
MYEC
Ok. Thats crazy. Thats a $300 billion market cap. That is certainly possible down the road, even in a few years time with exponential growth, but this year?? ZERO chance the company can grow that quickly, even in a forward looking market. If we see a buck this year ill be ecstatic. Revenues need to be present for valuations in the billions to take root and hold, even with a telegraphed upside like MYEC.
Very few companies have $100billion+ valuations. MYEC isnt going to leap to the top of the world virtually overnight. JMO. That said, they can certainly appreciate in value at a historic rate once they get rolling and all the big dominos start to fall.
Drop bombs B RY
Crap out of posts again.
MYEC
"Weber continues, "It's funny- in business as in life, how sometimes things just fall into place once you've sewn the seeds".
Ya its funny how those seeds were sewn from millions of dollars from mom and pop shareholders with little to show for it besides your "touting". Dude actually put the word TOUT in description of himself and his product.
Geeetttt ovvveerrr youurrseeelllfff you cartoon character! You can do all the "touting" you want when the people who helped get you to this point get some seed$ of their own. Until then you are just a share selling pump artist who hasnt built a sustainable product! Just a subsidiary mess that slashes more ownership share away from those who have financed these endeavours.
So frustrating wanting to see something succeed and watching a court jester in charge of a public entity claiming it already has, just because HIS bank account is bigger.
I cant wait to see if we EVER get detailed financials from this period of the company history. The amount siphoned away for compensation is probably too embarassing for him IMO.
The irony of an off the wall cuckoo CEO selling a relaxation beverage. His PRs are the most pumptastic on the OTC. Such bravado for a consistently subpenny stock with a now GIGANTIC share structure. Does he realize hes the only one making money off of this company? No INVESTORS are anyhow. Even ive flipped profits out of here. But How about some completed financials so the ones financing his "high on life" persona can feel a fraction as good about the company and their investment.
Big distributors mean nothing if there isnt repeat business. I like the taste and feel of KOMA but the management is among the worst ive seen in the OTC. If you want to act like all is right with the world and the company, then back it up with some concrete FACTS.
Just churns the stomach to watch. Holding but a tiny fraction of my original share count. Truly GLTA.
BBDA
Solid day. Tempted to add more monday.
Steady MYEC. Back and forth priming the pump IMO. Financials next weekwill set the tone for the next couple months. Or not....a blockbuster license deal will send us parabolic either way.
Transactions processing as we speak, as a trickle turns into a stream.
MYEC
Kiosks that help prisons and other government entities become more efficient. Transaction volume has been going up every quarter but they havent hit exponential growth yet. They have a fair amount of contracts signed and more in the pipeline. Will probably take a couple more years of expansion before they really get noticed, but anything is possible.
GPSI
Mussttt seee reeevvvsss. Come on SNEY shock the world.
Its a beeeeaaassssttttt
Crap, out of posts. 2 a day goes fast. Ah well. Until tomorrow.
Go MYEC
Loaded 500k 5s and 1mil 6s. Les go.
ADCS
Freeeeeeddddoooommmmm
Well sorta. I get 2 posts a day for awhile. Call it probation.
Go MYEC
Crap I only have 1 left now ;)
Article exerpt
Johnson and Crapo said they took the “rare action” of releasing bill language on a weekend “to balance the committee members’ interests in having adequate time to review the legislation while advancing housing finance reform in a timely manner.” Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat, said on March 13 that the issue is “too important to rush.”
Investors including Perry Capital LLC and Fairholme Capital Management LLC are suing the U.S. to challenge the arrangement in which all the companies’ profits go to the Treasury. The Senate measure says that arrangement would be changed only if needed to facilitate sales of the companies’ assets.
Paying Taxpayers
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which received $187.5 billion in taxpayer funds after they were seized and taken into U.S. conservatorship in 2008, will have sent $202.9 billion back to the Treasury by the end of this month. Stockholders say they should have a chance to share in the companies’ financial turnaround.
Crapo said last week that courts should decide how the companies’ investors are treated.
“They have filed suit right now in order to challenge the way that the current conservatorship is managing the current profitability of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” Crapo, the Idaho Republican who is co-writing the bill, said in an interview with Bloomberg TV’s Peter Cook on March 13. “We are not necessarily going to dictate the outcome of that. That will be a decision that’s made in the courts.”
Hedge funds have lobbied Congress to re-capitalize the companies instead of winding them down. Senator Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican on the banking panel, is calling for a bill that includes “fair treatment” for investors.
Midterm Elections
The Johnson-Crapo bill may struggle to gain the support it needs to advance in the next four months, before lawmakers’ attention shifts to midterm elections. A Democratic Senate aide said last week that the leadership is currently unenthusiastic about legislation that would eliminate the companies.
“All the sincere effort expended by the Senate Banking Committee simply confirms that there is no better alternative,” Fairholme Chief Investment Officer Bruce Berkowitz said in a statement on March 11. “Their core insurance businesses need to be restructured in a way that compensates and protects the taxpayer, not thrown away.”
In the House, a bill that would almost entirely privatize the mortgage market, written by Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling of Texas, hasn’t gained enough support for a vote of the full chamber. It is unclear whether the House would act this year even if the Senate passes a bill.
My opinion:
As youll see, (D) Senator Elizabeth Warren is no hurry and wants to get it right, and her, being a progressive firebrand, means she will nail this down and be on the side of the investors when she sees their case. In fact it looks like the whole Democratic Senate is "unenthused" about the idea, which means the Democratic House isnt either. Theres also a Republican Senator on record saying investors should get treated fairly. In fact,the only ones foaming at the mouth are the Republicans in the House because they want to break it all up for their various special interest groups....Big, Old Money at work in the gerrymandered GOP House as usual. I see but a few Blue Dog Democrats who would maybe back this if the timing was right, yet any chance of it happening any time soon are simply not possible. Its too big an issue in an election year, and the GOP wont allow anything significant to be accomplished for either or any side. Its been a historic, scorched earth do-nothing Congress for 5years and its not going to change with something of this magnitude.
This bill is Dead on arrival. Look for the cheapest rentry IMO.
FNMA
Oh baby. Got some .008 right away after seeingthis on the MYEC board. sweeeeet.
That makes me cringe for the record lol. But thanks i guess.
GERS
Uhm, im a GERS fan, but saying theres no reason to dilute is pretty disingenuous IMO. They have a crushing debt load due to the court garbage and patent infringers. History has also shown theyve diluted virtually nonstop to raise whatever funds they can. That includes having cash on hand and receiving royalties.
I still thik positively about GERS in the long run. I think justice will be served and eventually theyll pull it out. But who knows what the sharestructure will look like at that time. Jmho.
GERS
What a whacky morning.
Damn paywall. Very cool to see anyhow
Nope. Just a speed bump. Itll likely prove to be irrelevant several months from now. Just could have tried doing the raise organically off of good press first **IMHO**. It likely makes their situation neater or more stable, but at a tangible very near term "cost".
Lets just see volume stay strong, or explode, and it quickly becomes a convincing afterthought.
Uh, ok. Pretty sure volume is growing because they are getting closer to achieving their goals, and word is spreading. Pretty cut and dry There imo. the fundamentals are strengthening and as such people want a piece, even big pieces of this one, even currently being subpenny. Product is that revolutionary. Rubber stamp it.
There was certainly a stretch back in June and July where we rose even with Hanover putting in shares. Obviously there was no way that was going to remain the case given the terms of that deal, hence the steady decline you just brought up. Pretty sure i ate a couple grand loss during the dilution fest after being nice and green too. But if one ran the math on the average PPS of the stock and compared it to the Hanover filings it showed that they made a truckload whereas if SVFC would have diluted it down themselves first they would have been the beneficiaries of the subsequent bounce due to the first wave of SVFC people to find it on IHUB. I was second wave, a month or so late. But it was pretty clear it was specifically IHUB money buying the company at that point.
They may have been stuck back then with the IR situation, but with the 2014 volume and price appreciation they should have been able to get this capital on the open market themselves IMO. Not sure whats so controversial about that. Its March, not December, theyve had good volume for awhile now, so why do this deal now? It just got finalized. I near begged for someone to make me feel better about it logically. But clearly the great Gannicus is going to condescend and say Im so far off its not worth explaining. In that case, i drop my whole "argument" and capitulate to your infinite, unexplained wisdom.
I will now take my leave, and disappear back into the shadows, and let history run its course. A history that ive always said has looked truly bright, but apparently not perky enough, or something.
LOL wtfevs.
Actually, it likely means close to debt free, or there. Not totally sure what their cash burn rate has been. Hopefully that was a very specific amount they needed temporarily so we dont end up seeing another sequel of the Financial F77777s.
"critics Schrn41 and TheSkunk only gave it 1 star out of 4 last time around. But the powers the be missed those reviews. Dun dun dunnnnnnnn."
It says Foulups I swear ;) or follies, yea..
SVFC
Epic. Just one of many previously hopeless people that will be given a new leaae on life.
SVFC
There certainly are. Theres a pretty significant crew of, well, brilliant people in and around this board, much smarter than I. But many of them, like me, only pop in from time to time when new things come to light. Weve taken some shots here but have never lost sight of the inevitable rise thats coming. The tech is just too good to be held back for too much longer. The patient advocacy/lobby groups are all over speeding up stemcell advances, and rightfully so.
Plus, we know theres a permanent group of daily SVFCers who can keep everyone in line. They do the real legwork, even while they are pumping ;). Hard not to be excited about this one. Besides, ANYONE who has bought shares of this company is above average smarts at bare minimum. Smart enough to see the company for what it is and not being scared by its share price and misinformation.
Goodluck, and keep on buying IMO. Steady small bites will add up huge down the road IMO.
SVFC
Then you will miss out on tremendous, legendary upside, as well as a chance to put your money to work for a truly noble cause. I know thats a bit cheesy but its the truth. Once in a lifetime evolutionary jump in human health tech IMO.
Yea its certainly possible. The Andrews news is absolutely BEHEMOTH. And like i said in that book of a post (oops, i rant) the volume has been sensational so those shares should get dispersed pretty quicklike. But theres the likely possibility YAGI keeps some for higher levels too, so it may act as an anchor on and off for awhile. Plus if SVFC decides to do it at the same time then were seeing double downward pressure when we woulda seen it from one party.
Its just inevitable the rise wont be as fast and sturdy as it would have been, and the companys coffers will be MUCH emptier than they would have been had they gone it alone. But with the obvious high interest here i refer back to the likelihood its just a flesh wound or speed bump in the scheme of things. All IMHO of course.
Still love this sexy beast of stock/company. Wereinvesting in history, and are literally building the means of helping countless people with essentially medical miracles. Thats why the shares be flying off the shelves. And Cuz the profits will be ridiculous.
SVFC
I hear you, but the timing of that just doesnt seem legit to me. Theyve been seeing STRONG volume save for a couple weeks. And with them knowing the Andrews PR was coming, why not dilute slightly (maybenthey even did) and wait to see what kind of volume it brings, or ifit picksup organically. I just dont see a financial emergency where they needed that kind of capital all at once, when they could have been slowly building it up till now, then reaping capital with minimal shares. Obviously if they had free will here they would be letting this sucker run, but it looks like its already been blunted instead of slowly methodically diluting.
They need to have faith their stock is going to go up. If they did theres no way they should have agreed to such a low PPS. With this kind of news they could sell lots of shares while the PPS rises, much like how we rose last year from .01 to .07 before we hit a wall.
If this would have (or does) go well over a penny then YAGI will make anywhere from 1 million to tens of millions depending on how the stock reacts, in ridiculously short period of time... and theres no reason we shouldnt go higher from here with that news. And that windfall should AGAIN be SVFCs windfall, but AGAIN its going to a known TOXIC financier. But now with that 8k basically showing us theres downward pressure to be pouring in...its just an avoidable deterrant (most people will continue to buy ayway as we saw today, but by sheer logic the buying pressure wont be what it would have without that deal. Some may hold off and let the price possibly recede, whereas without that deal the EOD volume probably would have exploded us over .01. Did they even possibly start yesterday too? SVFC could have potentially staring at selling their own shares at multipennies and raising more money for much less shares. Then they could have let it go and sell the rest of the 400mil (obviously a .04 price means 4mil at 100million shares, to give an indicator of how much of a windfall YAGI is looking at. Even at .01 average thats 100percent return at least in a week or two if they decide to move em that fast.)Clearly theyve likely sold already so itll need to break a penny to get up to .01, but even at .008 its a million bucks! Its just ridiculous! And I think I read that they only have to pay 48.5percent of the lowest 3day average, which i think would be like .0025. So its even more of a windfall and we still may have to pay them a million bucks cash, as all the convertibles would only equal half the loan amount. Just becoming more absurd to me the more i stew about it lol.
Yes, the pros on the surface are nice, but COME ON. SVFCs stock would have to have basically shutdown in order for them to not be able to raise that kind of capital in an acceptable time frame. Any active trader here could have advised them how to move shares into the market, at least within a respectable range level for them. It would have at least shown them how weak their stock wouldhabe had to perform for this to be aywhere near a good deal. Now they are going to get reamed, as YAGI will probably partially crush momentum...when logic is applied its clear when they are done there wont be as many willing buyers of SVFCs own stockpile...again at a much lower price if they had discipline and control of doing it themselves. Basically its easy to see moving the first 400million is much easier than moving the second 400million. But the volume has been so damn strong its not like they wont be able to fairly quickly, which makes it even worse. Instead of $2million bucks (of which we may still have to pay $1million of even with full conversion) and 400million sloppy seconds shares, we would have had 800million to sell at their own will, assuming they keep raising capital. The level of efficiency vs. Inefficiency boggles the mind. So help me if they sign another one of these deals, for like 3 or 4mil, for only slightly better terms, but pitched as a fantastic bargain for a great new client!
Hows that go? Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. This is like the 3rd or 4th time theyve signed a ridiculously one sided deal. hanover made several million on a $800,000 loan in a few MONTHS. If you cut thru the financial BS it means the interest rate for that loan is in outer space, wildly illegal many many times over. But their financial "innovation" Allows for these things to happen. And of course people can say "well you signed the papers and we did help you out", but thats just rhetorical garbage and they know it.
Man i friggen knew it. Hindsight is 20/20 but damn it, i swear I saw this coming. I should have written them to plead my case. Now its too late. But i will still be writing them a letter.
Oh yea, hes as big a rockstar as u can find in their field, perhaps moreso than Sanja Gupta. His full commitment is absolutely immense.
(retrying to post this for a third and final time...had to butcher it this time around) From what ive heard, the new "borrowing" rules affects roughly $80 mill a week, or is it day? Alas, theres supoosedly other programs that exist that combine for $3-$4 billion in the same time frame. Also, this rule has been causing a steep wind down oer the last several months. So I dont know how much affect it will have....hopefully its tangible with SVFC. And those short numbers have been huge at SVFC too, even if theres that stigma that the numbers are worthless. They have to mean SOMETHING, otherwise the percentages wouldnt vary so much IMO.
This is, IMO, the crowning achievement of 21st century medicene thus far. Mind boggling what they will continue to discover. Those pictures of the bells palsy patients face were AMAZING, and the *side effect* included improving the patients diabetes. WHAT?! Thats the polar opposite of the droves of negative side effects we see in drugs. Just pure scientific brilliance. Mr. Andrews is already a legend, but Mr. Victor could end up being one of the top historical beings of this century. The Human health field is in a league all by itself when it comes to importance, and the SCIENCE is delivering tamgible godlike MIRACLES...no blind faith required imo.
Yea thats the other thing too. If SVFC is diluting as well during YAGIs distribution then its a doubleteam of downward pressure. SVFC will get less fornevery share they sell compared to what they would have got, plus they will not have full, or even "majority" control of reacting to what the market is doing. YAGIs been temporarily handed the keys to the car, store, and bank vault imo.
But again, in the scheme of things, its just a flesh wound, cured by badass stemcells.
Their BOD doesnt really have a financial guru. I believe they outsourced to an "independant" firm, which scared me when I saw that go down. They have a master of enforcing the laws and protections, as well as some seriously decorated physicians on their Board, but a CFO? Not yet I dont believe.
They are doctors? Theres an old running joke that some of the dumbest people (not all) out there are doctors when you get them talking about anything other than their craft. Ive seen dozens of these deals in pennies, and run my own business as well, so ive dealt with banks and loan terms and such.
YAGI got beyond a sweet deal. SVFC thinks they are because now they have breathing room, can prolly get debt free, and without ponying up any firm money. investors will be paying back the agreement instead of the company. If i were YAGI id be converting like crazy. They are going to be buying shares at a fraction of the current price the whole time. Its all but certain they make MILLIONS on this when it could have been going into SVFCs coffers. If the share price blows past a penny then its a guarantee. 400milly heading into the float, when it could have been half that if SVFC sold shares at .01, so on and so forth. Just awful. Should hve released the Andrews news and watched it for a couple days, THEN made a deal if volume dried up as well as a low PPS. But its been trending UP.
I wonder how their financial advisor gets compensated. My commercial real estate broker typically always got paid by the other party, the owner of the property. If their advisors are getting paid at all by YAGI based on the terms of the deal then they are making out like bandits too...id expect thatd be a conflict of interest but something is jacked up about this. Perhaps they get paid based on getting deals done...at the surface the pros are certainly there in lamens terms, but delving deeper its a hot mess.
Around one million dollars traded after the Andrews news today alone. Millions will trade again next week for sure IMO, plus tomorrow. They could have raised that money at will with way less shares, and then could have used the extras to get even more working capital IMO.
If they were in control of the dilution they could have dropped this news and let it run before diluting. I thinkits very likely YAGI was active EOD today IMO, otherwise that kind of volume should have shot us way up...?
Epic fail unless someone proves me wrong. Please do.
Not to lose perspective, its still just a big speed bump, BUT SHEESH. Shares are worth less and less a percentage everytime they do this, AND they are screwing themselves out of diluting themselves at much higher prices.
Speaking ofhigh, ima go chill now ;)
Go SVFC
Ohhh the 8k:
On March 11, 2014 (the “Effective Date”), Intellicell Biosciences, Inc., a Nevada corporation (the “Company”), entered into a Securities Purchase Agreement (the “SPA”) to issue and sell a secured convertible debenture (the “Debenture”) to YA Global Investments, L.P., a Cayman Islands exempted company (the “Investor”), in the principal amount of $2,100,000. In addition to the Debenture, the Company also agreed to issue a warrant to the Investor entitling the Investor to purchase up to 400,000,000 shares of the Company’s common stock, par value $0.0001 per share (the “Common Stock”) at an exercise price of $0.005 per share (the “Warrant”). The Company’s issuance of the securities to the Investor pursuant to the SPA is exempt from registration requirements of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”), pursuant to Section 4(2) of the Securities Act and/or Rule 506 of Regulation D promulgated under the Securities Act.
WHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYY. Fuggin WHYYYYYYYYYY
They could raise that in two days of volume at ahigher share price!!! Or let it run up a few cents then dilute even less. Theres NO WAY imo that time cluld have been that big of an issue. MAN!! YAGI could make tens of millions if they take their time!!
Who in the hell is advising them financially. arrrrggghhhh!!!
Someone make me feel better.
Yep im in at .0027 over there ;) CEOs been dropping weekly news. It runs for a few days, consolidates, more nonfluff news comes, and we move higher. I expect to see a PR tomorrow or Friday IMO.
As for here, who knows? 2 in one day! Just need to see the terms of that deal. But i expect to see lotso volume in lieu of the Andrews news, as it circles around the interwebs and social circles.
Now, someone talk Mr. andrews into giving a fact brochure to each of his big daddy clients. Those athletes could fund this thing for half a decade with minimal investments on their end.