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Nice try F6 but it so amazes me how you can't answer specific questions
Why do I have to provide evidence, you are the ones alleging something, you have to provide the evidence, give us the evidence, and answer my direct questions about iraq, which can't do because it makes no logical sense that the gov't is going to go through all this trouble to attack iraq and yet not use iraqi attackers to set up iraq
well if amy can't answer my question of whether she believes the theory then i assume she believes it and if you read her subsequent posts she seems to agree rather strongly
again not one of you can answer direct specific questions or provide specific evidence not hearsay
And you can't answer specific questions with specific answers which shows not only that you are lost but you never had a direction to begin with
Exactly, obviously you have no answers, simple questions, if the motive for 9/11 was Iraq and you go through all of that time and money then why not hire Iraqi's not Saudis, why didn't they tie it into Iraq, because if they did that it would be game, set, match for Bush's reelection, it wouldn't have mattered that there were no wmd's, he was simply retalliating for 9/11, you see they could have had both cakes, bin laden working with saddam, both wars, and 2 terms guaranteed, but of course your theory doesn't account for this, and you have no answers
Of course I don't agree with that if that is what you are asking, they blew the chance to get more terrorists
Easy but you never debate anyway, you never answer the questions, at least if I present a theory here I will answer your questions
When did I say that, I said they leaked the info so that they could get positive PR that they are winning the war, arresting people etc.
Well then why do you care who wins the presidency, oh a democrat is going to come in and change this whole political conspiracy, keep on smoking
Yes they did it so they could get some pr about how they are winning the war on terror
Don't you people realize how funny you all sound, if that really happened then Kerry will not win, your idiotic claim the government killed 3,000 people, yet they are not going to do what it takes to win the election, which would include killing people
if that really happened then I got news for you nothing matters, it does not matter who the president is, you people are so ignorant to believe something like that could be pulled off without one whistleblower let alone hundreds, all of a sudden all of these people who spent their whole lives in government believing in this country are going to order the downing of the towers, kill 3,000 americans maybe more, kill or put in jepoardy friends or co workers at the pentagon, kill friends on the planes, yes all of this is going to happen for what reason, to invade iraq
Wake up people, they were going to do Iraq even without 9/11, you think they needed 9/11 to invade Iraq
So wait let me get this straight according to you geniuses Bush ordered 9/11 but he couldn't plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, he couldn't hire Iraqi's to fly into the towers, why would he use Saudi's to whom he has a working relationship with, why would he not tie it into Iraq, wait they have the power to have a massive coverup of their plan but they can't make it so Saddam is blamed
If you have any intelligence you would say how crazy your theories are, but of course you won't, and my only conclusion is that you are either dumb or not playing with a full deck or need this conspiracy to fill an empty void in your life
Easy 5 years from now you will still have no legitimate evidence of what we all now know you believe, that the government planned and executed 9/11, the fact you believe that stands for itself in what it says about your character
Anyway if your theory was true then Kerry doesn't have a chance in the election, if that really happened then nothing would be left to chance to allow Kerry to win, so if he wins your certifiable crazy theory is toast
Not that it had any credibility anyway, let me ask you something do you have one authenticated document where anyone currently working in the administration orderered or planned that attack, do you have audiotape, videotape, do you have a money trail, any shred of evidence, nope
I don't even know why I bother, so now not only does your conspiracy run to perhaps hundreds of government officials, now it includes the media that is ignoring a smoking gun, not one person has a conscience, not one person has come forward.
But one thing is clear Easy believes that the U.S. government and Bush directly ordered the 9/11 attacks.
If you believe that why are you bothering to vote, if you think government did that it doesn't matter who is in power, because obviously if the government did that it would have to take the coordination of all of our intelligence agencies, which will still be in place when Kerry wins.
You conspiracy nuts never look at the big picture, anything in life can become a conspiracy because there are always questions
So I guess you think all of the terrorist attacks against us in the last 12 years were conspiracies, there is no al qaeda according to you, of course you won't answer these questions
I feel sorry for you
How come when Kitty Kelley says lies about Bush you guys think it is breaking news, but when the Swift Boat Vets lie about Kerry you people think it is definitely all lies, that is why nobody takes you serious, not that you have much of an audience here anyway
If you took 1/4 of the energy you take to post all day on a board that hardly anyone reads and took that energy to the Kerry campaign you just might actually make a difference
When can I stop laughing, oh yeah tons of evidence, oh god this would be so funny except for the fact 3,000 people are being spit on by some opportunist who sees a way to make money on this tragedy
I love the fact that because he worked under Bob Dole all of a sudden he is a government insider, what position did he hold in the Bush administration, oh Bush's reaction was because he thought it was a test run, when did this guy get let of the insane asylum
I'm sure every other Muslim attack on U.S. interests have been conspiracies
you need help teapee
Still can't believe that Nader is going to go through with this, but I just don't see him having any impact this year
Buckhead," who said CBS memos were forged, is a GOP-linked attorney
So now we find out the truth, the CBS documents were not accused by some innocent blogger, that is what the right wing talk show radicals would have you believe, it was an organized effort by the right wing cabal of Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingram, Malzberg, Drudge, and Fox to discredit the documents
I figured as much, you think any non connected blogger would immediately get their blog referenced on Drudge.
Here is the link http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002039080_buckhead18.html
Ed this board is boring now that the other side has been silenced, isn't that what they always shout about, yet they can't even keep this an open forum, pretty hypocritical
don't even need that many, 5 to 10 million would do it
Rico forget about all of that, how about 50 million people marching to the white house, like i said before it is never going to happen
Yeah according to your website author, show us the actual law from a law site, not some loser's website fantasy
You really are living in fantasy land if you think martial law is going to be invoked for a terrorist bombing, we do have a system of checks and balances in this country, don't forget a president can be impeached
Yeah ok, Bush is going to make this place a dictatorship and we are just going to let it happen, unbelievably funny
f6 nothing in that statement says I speak for the board, I was saying that I posted it either in response to easy or to the board in general
What plan is that, I already told this board or you, can't remember, that you were wrong about that, it was discussed but already dismissed as not being possible
Your post is not all true, there have been tons of terror arrest worldwide, including ones that were plotting new events, did Cheney ever say that, might have but do you have a sourced quote
Just for the record in case the neocons here get too giddy about the gallup poll, don't forget Harris, Pew, and Zogby among others, and don't forget Gallup's history right here:
Presidential candidates have won after trailing by similar margins. One was George W. Bush himself. In 2000, he was behind Al Gore by 10 points among registered voters in early October and then prevailed in the Electoral College, though he lost the popular vote.
In 1980, Ronald Reagan was down 8 points in the Gallup Poll in late October but won in a landslide after doing well in the only debate held with President Carter.
Ok Jim, at first glance I thought you were reprimanding me for something, but I understand what you are saying, I figured you had a handle on the guy anyway, just wanted to let him know he wasn't fooling anyone, good luck, hope you are still not mad at me from last earnings
Yes but after Cheney's comment about terrorism if you elect Kerry, any terrorist incident would hurt Bush not help him
postponing of the election will never fly, go back and look at Lincoln's words during the civil war about that possibility, those words will not allow anyone to do it
they don't have bin laden, if they had him it would have gotten out, if they couldn't get him for 3 years, doubt in 2 months they can magically find him, especially with only 12,000 troops hunting him
that leaves florida, sure I believe they will disenfranchise voters again in florida, that is why Kerry must win Ohio, if he wins ohio he doesn't need florida
Thanks Dillinger, Time will tell, good luck with your investments, do you have any stock recommendations
I saw another minnesota poll showing Kerry up by 7, that is why I don't believe Gallup, so you are not depressed by that 14 number, even though I agree with you, just hate seeing those numbers
Art disagree about the President thing, he has had multiple chances to run and everytime he has refused, he could have run in 1996 with full party backing and he declined, just don't think he wants to put him and his family through the ringer
Rico what about this silly Gallup poll coming out tomorrow, your take
Rico it is amazing to me that Wolfowitz still has a job, what jackasses they were for listening to a bunch of neocon fairy tales, I must admit I thought it was possible for democracy before the war started and I thought this could be a good way to fight terror, give young people a chance for freedom and a better life and a better view of America, how wrong I was
what happened to Colin Powell, he really became another shill for the Bushies
Rico or anyone here, do you know anything about these polls, I was glad to see the Harris poll show Kerry ahead by 1 and the Pew poll even which were released today, both of those have been highly successful in presidential elections
but now we see drudge reporting the gallup poll is showing bush by 14, no way anyone has a lead like that, what gives, is it the stupid likely voter model that gallup has been using, or are they slanting more republican than democratic in the registration category, that is one of the reasons Zogby gave for why his poll shows Bush only up by 4
This year the Gallup poll has been showing retarded numbers, they even showed Bush up by like 8 in Ohio while most polls show it even
any thoughts
Not sure about those numbers, I guess you would have to start with when Vietnam started major combat operations, because in the beginning there were very low numbers of troops
you are right the aspect of the region makes Iraq worse than Vietnam in the geopolitical aspect of it, it certainly will increase our enemies and terrorist recruitment, and a loss will embolden our enemies
that is why we are in such a quandary, if we leave we admit defeat and possibly embolden real state sponsors of terror, if we stay we face huge casulties and a possible civil war, I wouldn't want to be the man to try and figure it out
Art no doubt we are in a mess over there, I agree with you, just not in the league of a Vietnam mess, in Vietnam you had 11 years of intense combat fighting, but I agree with you that it could turn into it
King why do you stop posting on Yahoo
Edit, oh sorry I see you are back to posting on Yahoo
Due again you are probably right, but until it gets reported from more than one legitmate news source then I will believe that the case is still open, now when you say dismissed you don't qualify, can the case be appealed, or can her motion be appealed, I find it hard to believe big time million dollar lawyers are just going to give up, they get paid to win, get a lot more money if they win
A little more complicated than that, the checklist would be more believable if it was specific, the bottom line is we lost 58,000 troops in Vietnam, light years away from that, we were there for like 14 years, hopefully it won't become Vietnam, if we understand that the place is a mess and Bush failed and a democracy can't come true then we will get out before it becomes Vietnam
And why did he suddenly stop posting at yahoo last night, looks like the king to me
Not even close to Vietnam