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That's just your normal lack of comprehension. Plenty said. And as far as "so little said", looked over your posts......you're right! Anything else ABOUT THE COMPANY, you'd like to discuss?
Besides that being a ridiculous request, it's not up to me to list anything. They are all there in the msg history. If you haven't seen them and don't want to look, that's your problem. They're there. And they show how well I've had vplm pegged for a long time. Maybe check with one of the whack jobs who are so infatuated with me they spend their time searching thru my past posts looking for things something to refute things I say and since they can't, so then they make stuff up and post lists of lies, saying I said then but I didn't or they find something to take out of context and try to make it look like I e contradicted myself or lied, etc. It's very amusing to see them squirming to find stuff that ain't there. Doesn't mean I've never made a mistake of said something wrong, but they are mental. Check with them if you want lists. I've already posted what's there.
Have fun
Oops....I just remembered that your ridiculousness crossed enough lines that I said I was done with your abusiveness. Forgot about it.
Me gone. Me done
Keep at it or find other victims...whatever floats your rubber ducky.
$VPLM Huge!! Patent Settlement with Amazon:
"From the motion filed today:
Plaintiff VoIP-Pal.com, Inc. and Defendants Amazon.com, Inc., Amazon.com Services LLC, and Amazon Web Services, Inc. jointly move the Court to stay the proceeding and all deadlines for forty-five (45) days. The Parties have reached an agreement in principle to resolve all issues in the case"
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..............................or not
*I predicted this would amount to nothing...
Absolutely hilarious that NO ONE will say or admit whether or not they would buy the company or the patents, if they had the money. It's an excellent and very pertinent question because it shareholders have thought for all these years that one of the big dogs would indeed make the purchase. The proof of that exists right here in the msg history.i knew ahead of time what I would have to ask them, depending on which answer they gave.
If they said yes, that would beg the question...well, then why didn't the big dogs. That would reveal a conflict than would need to be resolved in order to reconcile whether or not the other was on the up and up.
If they said no, that would beg the question of "why not" and would support the notion of no purchase to happen, which in turn shows the conflict needing resolution.
It's also evident enough what the breakdown would be if answer came forth. It keeps getting closer and closer to a 50/50 sentiment as to whether the ship will come in or not but I think it's still closer to 60/40 or 70/30, with the 1st number representing the majority who would say yes. That's based loosely on the posts. It's self evident..
So thanks for your cooperation. Been a pleasure doing this assessment with you!
Buyouts and settlements have been promised for the past 12 yrs or so.
Settlements, buyouts and licensing with vplm........does not equate or compute. Not ever gonna happen imho. If it was gonna happen, considering the power and vast wealth alleged to be.......any of them would've settled, bought or licensed LONG AGO.
Like Robert Blake used to say....."you can take that to the bank".......except ironically, you can't, except 2 cents or whatever....
Haha the more the supposed good news comes, the more the pps sinks. Funny that. Maybe some should make some fake bad news and see if it goes up...
I believe your absolutely right about the inside not allowing it to go above 3 cents except for a couple seconds a few days ago to give it that "authentic" look, lol.
Still want your take on the 10b5-1 question....
Omg.......thanks.....now I finally get it, that it's a moot waste of time exchanging viewpoints with you even aside from the abusive nature and name-calling and ornery-ness. I've quite clearly and concisely explained and described what patent validity means and you show that you totally ignore it (which I guess defines ignorance..). You either do that on purpose or are actually that deft. I don't know which but I'm done with the wasted time.
Engineering degree indeed, lol
Have a nice day with your next victim (and I hope you never realize what patent validity means because it would take away some of the much cherished entertainment value I so enjoy here. It allowed me to "cut the cord". So there's that if nothing else.
Later
Hey Swifty......do you honestly think you need to explain to him how to use an ignore button......?..........OR............do you just want to try to look cool and helpful ?
Given the past record, did you expect better?
Sorry if that was too long
Orca.....you are more info the inside selling facts and figures than anyone else I've seen, so I'm asking you again....... Did Babs file for a 10b5-1 or not? Why can't we just get that very important question resolved once and for all? Because my read (which might be wrong) is that IF she did, then she would not have been required to file the subsequent form 4's. Either way, does not, in my view, excuse the optics and the direct affect on the pps but that's another story.
Tia
To continue...
1st, your mention of caps, etc is pedantic. Get over it. You running a bit thin there esp in contrast to my fact filled in depth posts. You should quit while you think you're ahead but you spellbound and have no control over negativity while processing positivity......so I'll try to be understanding.
To finish my point about the abilities needed to truly decipher the patents, which you obviously don't have....
I've pointed out many times that according to the great Emu, he raised and spent some $18 million on some 20-25 voip telephony engineer and code writers to create the patents. Here's some more caps for you as I know how they hurt your delicate ears (hint: they're only letters on a screen, lol, get a grip), THAT RIGHT THERE TELLS ME VERY VERY CLEARLY........THAT IF IT TOOK THST MUCH MONEY AND THAT NUMBER OF VOIP ENGINEERS, AIN'T NO WAY IN HELL THAT YOU, ME, YOUR FRIEND (in all likelihood), AND ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD IS EQUAL AND UP TO THE TASK OF FULLY DECIPHERING THESE PATENTS. ANNNNNNNND...........EVEN IF THEY (are your ears hurting, ok here ya go..) were, that still is not enough to determine efficacy, workability, compatibility, annnnnnnnnnnd....................then also do the same to ea and every source code of the ea and every feature offered by the defendants which allegedly infringe. So now you can go right ahead and call that well covered assessment by me, word salad and/or whatever else you might come up with, but what it actually is, is knowledge and a covering of the bases in a most thorough way. Sorry, you can't handle the truth...
I'll give you extra time now before I cover the rest of your post, to absorb. It's fat soluble, so not as easily absorbed. One last thing in this post.....try to keep in mind that I have not said the patents are undeniably bogus. I'm not remotely qualified. But believe that time will reveal it to be so and I believe that via INFERENCE of other facts that I DO know about.
Your fulla crap. An engineering degree in no way enables you to understand these patents. You didn't even state what type of engineering so your likely full of baloney about that too. I'm well educated myself but no details because everything one says gets twisted here. I've been into electronics for approx 30 yrs and I read as much of the patents as I could wrap my head around. I knew what the components and actions were, as the process describes and my impression was it was a lot of gobbledegook, but I am not even remotely qualified to comprehend those patents. You would not only have to be a full on electrical engineer as opposed to a mechanical engineer but that alone would not be enough to fully fathom these particular patents as they are written so complicated and so much redundancy that is what made me wonder about them. But to be perfectly clear, I couldn't even begin to decipher them and make no claim to. Rather, I have posted my reasons, which are indirect, for why I think they are bogus. My conclusions in that regard came about from inference. I've explained that but you're too busy quickly forgetting and overruling yourself as to namecalling (that lasted for what, 5 seconds? And abusive language. Hey, that's just you, I get it. Funny how certain peeps, when their ideas or conclusions are taken to task, automatically revert into personal attacking. Lack of intellectual ammo would be my guess, bwtfdik? And as far as constantly attacking the length of my posts, you seem to be compelled, as are the others, to read every single word. Funny that...
There's more to respond to but I don't want you to hurt your eyes, so I'll give you a break in between.
Here it is again
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rule-10b5-1.asp#:~:text=Rule%2010b5%2D1%20allows%20insiders,material%20nonpublic%20information%20(MNPI).
It was enacted on 2/27/23 (I should say the latest iterations were enacted then. There's many additions)
If I'm not mistaken, the rules changes, which I just happen to have posted here a couple months ago, required an even quicker required response time for filing, like 4 days. But, what I'd like to know, is if that applies if the sales were done within the 10b15 (or whatever that number is supposed to be) and if so, did she set these sales up under that rule? I thought that perhaps she did cuz I thought I saw and indication on the form that she had signed in a place that is supposed to indicate as much......but then such a mob keeps posting about what a devil in a blue dress she is, that I began to doubt that I had that part right and that maybe she really did not file under 10b15 rules (sorry if I keep typing the wrong number).
Since I posted the rules here, you'd think I'd be more sure but I'm not.
Ok, it's 10b5-1
Does that mean it's ok?
Congrats! You should be able to do the whole house with all those...
"PS Does no one else think it's odd that the new CFO doesn't know his own name, and doesn't even read the filings he's attesting to having read with a legally binding signature?"
Considering they put out a white paper and used the word "tenants" instead of the correct word "tenets", when describing, ironically, the attributes of the company, as if they were the rent managers.......and it was my understanding that a white paper was more or less supposed to be a professionally put together kind of brochure for all to see, so I was embarrassed for the company and I contacted them to alert them to that not just bad spelling but wrong word with wrong meaning....oh, and it (tenants) was repeated several times in that white paper, which meant that it wasn't simply a typo or momentary mistake. It meant the writer did not know the word was tenets. Anyway, they simply ignored my contact and left that whitepaper to stay that way in perpetuity as far as I know cuz I checked back numerous times afterwards and it wasn't fixed.
Also, and I wonder if you remember this incident... They were putting pictures to the names ornthe BOD on the website and I can't remember which guy it was but someone posted that one of the pics was not the guy listed as a board member and was just some random guy not even associated with vplm and then they had to change the picture.
And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention with the above items, that they put out a PR that claimed basically a sale was imminent of being negotiated or something along those lines and I think it was allegedly with a fortune 500 guy possibly. Some time later, not positive but I believe it was Sawyer who put out a special PR exposing and explaining that THAT previous claim was bogus and was due to a lie from a last employee.
Can you make this stuff up? Yes. Am I? Nope, all true.
And so the answer to your question is NO, it's not odd at all. It's par for the course for the #1 OTC pennystock in its BEST POSITION EVER, run by the leader with no followers, in the industry.
Upon further examination of certain materials, I see that, as usual (can't help it..) I was right.....you're a big phony........and a pseudo-martyr (ok, I guess thats redundant and goes with the previous accusation.......oh, and I don't want to forget the baiting. Good job! Carry on. I knew...well I sensed something was not quite right when you posted that phony baloney reply to the chick from Hawaii. I knew something was a bit over acted then but I really try to give benefit of the doubt. Now I know the real deal. You should collaborate with emu....he could use a faker like you in his PR division. You had me fooled for like......uh......around 10 seconds. If you had replied to questions with more phoniness (which you would've done if you were good at this...) then maybe you would've had me fooled a few minutes longer.
I got your loophole. It's loopy. At least you did supply some court docs or notice of. You should continue with that and ditch the acting. I'm sure you will. Those that took you as for real, may they live and learn. But they're fools anyway cuz you often lay it on so thick, it should be obvious not to believe a word you say. At least I have to give you, your phoney baloney play the martyr posts are far more acceptable and respectful than the many sophmoric rude crap. So know that I'm not criticizing you, just letting you know I see thru the bull.
I always do my best to help also.
So where's your responses? Are you hiding them?
"But unless it's a legal contract, there ARE no "promises". "
Just like the Amazon "settlement", right? Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you..
"So far, I think our team has done a bangup job of proving infringement"
In order for you to make that statement, you would have to have based it on something(s).
Care to share any such evidence? Link? Court doc? Image of Emu in your toast? Anything? Any one shred of substance to backup above statement..........or..............is it just so much baseless, empty talk? I'm not saying it isn't or can't be true..... REALLY......but I think it's a claim worthy of EVIDENCE. I predict excuses blended with crickets. If it's too much to ask, you can say so. I won't laugh... Promise...
Yes I read the rules changed recently as well. I think the form 4 is supposed to be filed within 4 days or so
But...does.that rule apply when they are preplanned sells.....whaddya call it .....10b15 or something like that?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand......
No one, ah say, ah say....NO one....
Can explain why....... every single alleged infringer in the world had the same exact idea as if members of the Borg.......to steal vplm's patents... hahahahaha
Can explain why.........every single alleged infringer, as if members of the Borg collective, is a rip-off.....hahahah
Can explain why......every single alleged infringer, already established to be part of the Borg mentality......went to the same place to steal the patents (the patent office?)
Can explain why.....every single alleged infringer......the Borg choose just anyone, even slow to understand msg board goers...lololol.....who chose to not put their shareholders best interests first and foremost when deciding why, if they know they are infringers, they wait until the damages are gonna cost them far more than if they just buy, license or settle now (or in the last several years). Isn't that just BRILLIANT?!
Can explain why....every single alleged infringer........hardy har har har ......can't wait for the vplm hit squad to come for them with triple damages......ho ho ho ho ho ha ha ......rather than extricating themselves quite easily and relatively cheaply now... Wow
Can explain why......every freakin last alleged infringer........omg omg.......thinking with the same single Borg mainframe brain........are ready willing and able to let their voip competition to just waltz right up and snatch up the patents out from under them, leaving them high and dry and totally vulnerable to said competitors NOW WITH THE MOST FOUNDATIONAL PATENTS ON THE PLANET THAT CAN AND WILL (yeah right...) Give full control of the largest communication vehicles in the world. OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE THAT DUMB, RIGHT? OF COURSE
Hehe......Mr market knows. I know. Numerous experienced shareholders and msg board goers know. Emu, Babs, Chang and other insider dumpers (apparently know things ain't lookin good) know. All those who took an exit know.......m
Buy you and you and you and you (y'all know who you are) jez don't get it......
That's why all refuse to answer the question about buying the patents or company if you had the cash. Yup, that IS why. Best question ever posed here and none can answer. Hell, few can even muster a civil post. That's why it's one of the top read boards.....they come for the entertainment.......the same ones whose favorite show is Jerry Springer.
Well there you go, we both agree on something. I don't think I minimized any of your conclusions, per se. Normally that's not the way I want to deal. But then again, it comes down to definitions. What you think is minimizing, I may have looked at differently. To me, minimizing someone's ideas or opinions is similar to namecalling or insulting for it's own sake and/or having a lack of respect for someone's opinion. I hope I havent done that without even realizing it, but at the moment I'm think we both may have done something like that...? Not sure. If I have and you point it out, I'll retract and apologize. Peoples ideas and opinions may be right or wrong but shouldn't be dissed.
Not only that but that .45 was just a fluke basically that was based on major outside pumping and the IPR news and it lasted what ....about 20.seconds? Lolol. It did take it's time going back to crap again. About a month if I recall. I caught a small part of it I think. But even if I had been paying attention to it I most likely would not have sold at 45 cuz I woulda waited for minimum of 50. Peeps here were betting it would sell anytime soon for as much as 25 billion. It was a riot to behold.
Sad? You must be joking again. Sad for who.... you? Not sad for me. I'm not the least bit sad. I'm a winner with vplm and since I'm not a big stock expert and had already previously lost a lot on paper with vplm and seen another similar company go rogue and get busted after 50 yrs I decided it was best for me to stop buying vplm forever and that has most definitely saved me a bundle as I look back at the performance since I made that decision. So I have no idea what you think is sad. But it's not me. I invested a few grand in pennystocks and a few big board back in 98/99 because my common sense told me it was a big opportunity and I did buy and trade quite a few different stocks and most of them were just trash that I didn't know any better but..........I never once went into the red with my initial investment money to this day so I've nothing to be sad about in that realm. You're SADly mistaken, but I already know that you choose to believe in whatever you do same as everyone else does for the most part so good luck with vplm. I hope it shoots way up someday but not holding my breath for that.
"they already grabbed it"
That's because you believe whatever they tell you......
I know that's a fact because you have no proof of that.
It's not possible for you to have any proof of it....as I know how all that works.
So you just swallow the party line. Not everyone associates with the inside is privvy to everything only the need to know very small group.
That's ok.......you're not the only one to buy what their selling. You're not the only one to fail to realize the sophistication that can be attained now days, esp someone with the experience of the Emu. And you're not the only one to forget that there are scams out there far above what you would expect. They exist. I've seen it happen before. I was involved as a shareholder with such a company for 5 yrs or so and that company was in business for 50 yrs and had a BELOVED CEO and had govt support. And they had an army of world's greatest lawyers too.
Let me hip you to the real facts. Unless you were an engineer who specialized in voip telephony and computer tech, and had an advanced knowledge of code writing and applied that to at least all of the vplm core patents AND every single patent in question that's in litigation AND had exclusive access to all of that AND the time to thoroughly go thru it all and make the comparisons to prove infringement...... then you're nothing more than a belieber. Or if you had a close friend with all those attributes who felt you deserved to know what he knows.......then you have nothing to go on EXCEPT the party line so to speak, that is generated by the party AND NOT ANY SORT OF TRUE OBJECTIVE KNOWLEDGE AND COMPARISON SCHEMATIC LAID OUT FOR YOU.
And for many, maybe most, that's ok cuz that's enough for them, along with the fact that being positive is inherent to the amount of dollars you invested and what you choose to divulge on this board. And you may very well be totally correct in the end about emu and the patents. I'm not 100%... only about 98 or 99.
SO, IF YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THAT EVERY SINGLE VOIP SERVICE PROVIDER ON THE PLANET IS JUST AS DISHONEST AS THE NEXT ONE AND THST THEY ALL, EVERY LAST ONE IS A THIEF WHO ROBBED VPLM AND WHO ALL HAVE THE EXACT SAME THOUGHTS TO DO THIS AND THE SAME MENTALITY AND THE SAME MORAL COMPASS OR LACK THEREOF AND ACTED IN UNISON AS THOUGH THEY ARE PART OF THE BORG AND SAID WE WILL ASSIMILATE VPLM..........AND MOST OF ALL........THEY ALL DECIDED, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM, EVERY LAST CEO.........THAT KNOWING THEY ARE GUILTY AND KNOWING THEY ARE INFRINGING AND KNOWING FULL WELL THAT VPLM HAS CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED THEY CAN RAISE ALL THE CASH THEY NEED AS THEY HAVE DONE SO FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.........AND KNOWING THAT ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE VPLM GETS TO THEM TO SUE THEM AND THAT THE COSTS AND THE DAMAGES KEEPS GROWING AS MORE AND MORE TIME GOES BY........AND SO ITS SIMPLY INEVITABLE THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY PAY PAY THRU THEIR TEETH EVEN IF THEY ARE FORCED TO SETTLE................................THAT THAT is BETTER THAN JUST BUYING, LICENSING OR SETTLING NOW IN ORDER TO SAVE A TON OF MONEY FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS..............AND THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM REACHED THIS SAAAAAAME CONCLUSION. DID I MENTION EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM?
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Ok, now (hopefully) a shorter, less heady reply...
I wonder what you meant by the "misinterpreted" comment? Doesn't mean your opinions have been misinterpreted or you have misinterpreted others opinions?
I don't know if anyone is fortunate to have my take. I feel I am though.
Um...deferring to me on direction is hard for me to swallow....... nevertheless I have a policy of not giving any buy or sell or hold advice as I think that is solely the job of the shareholder or potential one. That said, you know I decided years ago to stop buying vplm after being lucky enough to recoup the losses I'd incurred. To be fair, there was still enough wide ranging price movement at the time for me to get away with it. In not knowledgeable enough about day/swing trading to continue with that, like orca. I would likely lose all that I gained. So it was a smart move for me. At this point I think one would have to risk big bucks to make small bucks.
You also, no doubt know what I think about the prospects for vplm and future. It's not due to great stocks and patent law knowledge. My belief is much the same as how we have come so far in knowing all there is to know about atoms and nano particles without being able to actually see them directly. It's through inference and then testing those inferences even tho they are not direct evidence. That might not be the best analogy but my bottom line lack of belief in vplm and the patents comes from 2 places. The main one is that no one has grabbed such a priceless treasure (if "all that") and the other is all the things vplm has done or not done over the yrs which I interpreted as negatives and dot connecting. All the good stuff I see as a front. And I know I could be totally wrong but doubt it.
Well, I tried................to be shorter that is
Mr double L,
Thanx for that most persuasive set of comments. The reason I use the word persuasive is, while I have some idea of your intellect, and I really don't want to appear contentious for it's own sake (which no doubt many think is the case..), still it would be disingenuous of me if I didn't reveal that sometimes, no, many times, no close to always....(sorry) I, possibly mistakenly, find your listings to be....well, let me just say....something at least a little more than the posts generally seem to suggest. They seem to be a front for other things that if you said them straight up, you've learned that at least here on this board, you can too easily get into trouble. And you seem sly as a fox about it, lol. I don't think I'm wrong, but I know full well that I could be as maybe my imagination plays a much greater part than I think it does so I better apologize in case you say I'm in left field on this even tho I could show alot, haha, of evidence for my perception.
A small example but not the best by any means is yest you sent me the court info which I appreciated probably due to something I said. I was surprised but it was a good thing. I found no need to share it as it was out there for all to see. Then it was followed by 3 more ppl posting the same. That's cool. They prolly didn't see the 1st one plus one of them had the actual court msg. Anyway, I then asked you if it meant what I thought it did, only a minute later but you didn't reply. That made me think you gave me the info maybe because I complained about something related. Not important. More on point, I noticed months ago, when someone made what I thought was a rude and unfair comment about the plethora of info you were offering up here. You immediately said something to the effect of that you didn't want to disrupt the board due to your postings, therefore was ducking out. I could not take that as your genuine feeling but more of a veiled sarcasm. I've seen that kind of psychology used before and I kind of figured you'd be back after you heard pleas to keep on posting. Immediately I remember the lady from Hawaii begging you now to leave and some other positive comments. I wouldn't count you expected that and have it a little time to perculate, then after a time came back posting except now with what I've found to be a strange mix of comedy/sarcasm with a pinch of pseudo martryism thrown in.
It's great. I love it. I hope it doesn't offend that it's very entertaining and underneath you DO give out some very good and generous info. It's all good! I just wanted to reveal a little more of my insanity.... I should also mention and hat tip for never showing any disrespect or rudeness that is wholesale on this board. I can't help but wonder if you're an actual lawyer but you may not wish to divulge if so.
You have that wrong I must say. I haven't asked anyone to consider my opinions, theories, facts. I just put them out there. What ppl do with them is of course up to them. And how could you possibly say I don't consider theirs. If I didn't consider their opinions, I wouldn't be able to offer my rebuttals or my agreements, now would I? Curious to know what brings you to that conclusion. My opinions about vplm are very straightforward and consistent. Have you read my opinions and do you agree with? If not, does that mean you have not considered them? Of course I consider everything that inputs my senses in a most fair and balanced way.
The patents are bogus.
The patents are worthless.
One of the other or both is true imo.
Someone said that much has been done to show the patents are all that. (do I really have to explain what "all that" means every time I say it?). I disagree and challenge to show any direct evidence of same. Not some inferred but indirect conclusion, like "oh, there's microwave background radiation out there so that proves the big bang", but any shred of DIRECT evidence of infringement. Not inferred, DIRECT! I contend there is not a shred of any such direct, empirical evidence. So that does not, by any stretch, prove the patents are bogus, but they could be. I think they are bogus by indirect inference, ie, something has or hasn't happened, therefore I conclude... But.....in also find that what has or hasn't happened.......to be VERY VERY strong evidence, so I believe. I acknowledge not having proof. And just because a trial hasn't concluded anything yet, doesn't minimize my reasoning, beliefs and conclusions. Most all my predictions here for near 13 yrs have been correct.
* I didn't finish this...
The 2nd part is "worthless"
As far as I'm concerned, they have had near 20 yrs to show they have value and in that time have not made a dime. Some might say, "but they have, as all the other companies use them", but I maintain there's no proof of that so I say they are worthless. That could change in the future but I doubt it.
Interesting and true...........................................................until it isn't.
"Price is determined by what they do and how much revenue they bring in. Top athletes put people in seats, and buying jerseys and bring in more money to the teams than journeymen players. Voip-Pal patents are foundational technology that will bring in bring revs to the owners."
This needs to be separated into it's 2 parts to be fully understood.
""Price is determined by what they do and how much revenue they bring in."
That part is undeniably true and applies to any and all products.
In the case of vplm, the patents were created close to 20 yrs ago and I'm sure if there was any way for any of them to do what they allegedly do and there was a buyer or any other way to convert to revenue, the owners would have done so...unless the the payment offered was simply too small. In any event, in the case of vplm patents, never been any revenue generated and THAT, above, is the criteria, the hallmark.. Nothing there, so the given requirement, has not been met........for a very very long time. As to what they do, there is no known proof of that. In fact, there is no known anything not even an indicator. (Hmmmm....maybe THATS why vplm promised to fold the tech into their alleged voip service provider platform........but then DIDNT). Only vplm saying they were tested but to my knowledge the test results have never been made available. Thus, both above criteria have not been met in any way, shape or form.
You can jump up and down and stand on your head, swearing the patents can do this, that and the other, but I am handling it as in a court of law. No proofee, no infringee.
The 2nd part:
"Voip-Pal patents are foundational technology that will bring in bring revs to the owners."
* this attempts to offer itself as fact but it's nothing more than an unsubstantiated claim.
"Are foundational" is someone's completely unproven opinion. A judge would of course, not just accept that. Therefore it's not true.............until it is........but for now......it ain't.
"that will bring in revenues to the owners"
* Yes and no. Needs to be unpacked. Indirectly, the STORY (the unsubstantiated claims) has served to bring tons of money to the owners via the share selling biz this is. But the patents have not directly garnered any conventional revenue, ever. So, in terms of the above requirements given, the patents are a FAIL.
One cannot make something be true, by conflating intentions and beliefs, with actual happenstance and reality. THAT is exactly what the OP attempted to do in the post.
Discernment young man, discernment.
Would you like help with something in particular?
Yada yada yada....
s'all I got..
What's your question?
I was almost finished with a reluctantly made reply but my phone ate it before I could and I don't know if I have the heart to rewrite it so for now I don't. Too bad it was a bonafide certified boomshakalaka.
Wow looks like all that "good news", esp the most recent news about getting into another discovery phase, has really set us ablaze! You can see it in the chart for the last 3 mos or 1 month and especially today! Go vplm!
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