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Shell game hmmmmm lets see if we can come up with any shells to play this game! Help please here are just a few
Consultech Construction Management
Consultech Midwest
Vista
Kore International
Multiple Sulja's
Sulja Bros UK some say typo in the Dubai article but I wonder!
Loftwerks
I am sure there are some I am missing and then of course there is Wessal International! $25,000,000 and 125 million shares on the open market! HMMMMMMMMMMM!
Hey I believed as well! It was all of the sanitised happy news, posts etc. Things on the board info page sure look to be fact! Connect the dots has been intimated! Look at it all!
I guess we both were stupid! How could we not be! All of the droves of information that surely isn't looking to factual these days! All of the pumping! If you got in later in the game like me then sir I feel your pain!
I appreciate the job you are doing as Mod! Not an easy job in these trying times and all of you could have easily packed it in and gone away! I hope I am wrong here but it sure don't look good at this time!
GLTY
PUBLISHING the AF's. Here are couple clues out of the horses mouth!
Post 165254
comment from blog...petar....
Petar says:
If you are not pleased with the results there is nothing I can do. These figures represent the companies which were placed into the trading shell. I would hope I have real shareholders because I don’t know of any other kind.
Comment by Petar
November 16th, 2006 * 1:43 am
this does not sound good..........thoughts.........
From Fridays PR!
"For we have nothing to hide, as always. And we have no desire to hide "all of that nothing.""
All of that nothing! If the AF's included anywhere near what Steve Sulja reported back in July-September no one here would be upset, worried, all would be happy! That is why they can't post or produce the AF's! The AF's will in my opinion prove the fraud! Why would anyone want to do that to themselves!
The question is where did you buy in! I would think sub penny! So even at .03 you are well ahead. Many bought in .07 on up and many bought in the teens when the hype and pump machines were in full gear. There profits haven't shrunk they are losing big time! Many got creamed on 11-16!
You can say you have some financial sting and I respect that! Many here have financial devestation. Many here turned on family and friends to this and with all of the hype and pump and info available on the info page they bought in as well. I thank god I didn't turn anyone on to this. I was very tempted! If the person who originally told me about this knew what I have lost he would be devastated! I will never let him know.
GLTY!
Now people are on to some very important information. PUMPERS! Look at the board info page! How could you not invest with all of that information! Who put that all up there? Only now has anything negative been put there with the addition of the Windsor Star article! If this is a major fraud and I mean IF, then who promoted the fraud! Now the PUMPERS are on notice that if they continue to PUMP they will be perpetuating the fraud and that is illegal! The only salvation about this site is all of this is on the record and people can go back through all of the posts!
One thing missing is what transpired via PM! Good news is I am sure there is a record and history able to be discovered about all of the PM's people sent back and forth on this and other sites! I am a nobody on this site but have been shocked by some of the information provided me via PM! A week ago a former poster from the September days provided me Petar's cell phone number via PM!
Sandvet you and many others are on the right track! Keep digging and the riddle becomes much clearer! It is amazing how hard people worked to sanitise what stays on this board! Bet many of them made a bunch of money at others expense!
Absolutely correct and very similar to a post I made earlier today! No AF's is what caused the tank!
http://consultechconstruction.com/ This is the link to the site that is now temporarily down!
BINGO! MUST READ!
The big question is what Sulja companies were actually rolled into the Loftwerks shell! This is from the blog on Thursday morning on post 165254
comment from blog...petar....
Petar says:
If you are not pleased with the results there is nothing I can do. These figures represent the companies which were placed into the trading shell. I would hope I have real shareholders because I don’t know of any other kind.
Comment by Petar
November 16th, 2006 * 1:43 am
We may own stock in a shell that has really nothing! That is why the AF's can't/won't be posted. All of the PR's etc. may have nothing to do with the public SLJB corp!
I remember the Dubai article stating Sulja Bros UK! Many thought that was a typo!
This from a pm I received "there are more than 1 Sulja companies. what assets are placed in what company should be a concern of ours."
SHELL GAME and my bet is our shell is empty! OUCH! I picked a fine time to quit sniffing glue!
Remember reading your post and it made sense then and well we certainly know what it looks like now!
Do you have crystal balls? LOL!
pop-a-top! Does SLJB own SAMS? What was paid for SAMS? No one knows! Is SAMS part of SLJB or Consultech? No one knows! Sorry Petar knows! Let's give him a call..ooops not taking calls this weekend!
"Today the CEO of SLJB (Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.) (PINKSHEETS: SLJB), Petar Vucicevich, announced the acquisition of SAM Building Materials Limited."
As we have learned people need to read everything Petar writes very closely! Does this PR state the Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. purchased SAM Building Materials Limited for x. No! It states the CEO announced the acquistion of.......!
The best thing about the shell game is if you move fast enought no one knows what is under each shell! That is the royal problem here! Only one person has any knowledge of what is what and he certainly has lost ALL credibility!
proftstocksny2; Please provide any proof that the assets are in fact in the company that we own shares in, SLJB! The proof doesn't exist! Now if the AF's exist and are made public and show that in fact they do not exist, that the previous issued PR's, financial statements etc are fraudulant then all, meaning, Steve Sulja, Petar V and whoever else is involved are going to prison! I say IF because no one has seen the AF's. No one has seen a company balance sheet. Back in may Steve Sulja stated a respected third party had completed the audit. Has that ever been produced for the shareholders to see?
The land was for the Colchester development. Why involve his wife? That doesn't pass the smell test to me!
"But Vucicevich now has a choice of a Range Rover, BMW or Maserati to drive, all leased, he says. And between June and September this year he and his wife purchased four parcels of land in Colchester Village for $609,000, according to land registry records."
"Parent companies". What does that mean? Conslutech is the parent company of SLJB. Read it a bunch of times. SLJB is it's own corporation so why does it need a parent....unless the parent gets all of the assets! Every time I have read parent company it just hasn't felt right! It feels even worse when the "parent company" is private! Like you said Vista is supposedly the "parent company" of Consultech! What does that mean? I sure as hell don't know. This again just doesn't pass the smell test! What about Kore International! Why all of the different companies....just don't know but it doesn't smell or look right anymore!
My gut says someone who knew there wasn't going to be a release of the AF's shorted big time. Many posters were stating the trading pattern wasn't looking right leading up to November 15th. The stock price crashed on Thursday morning because of one thing only and that is the AF's not being posted on the 15th! Most didn't even know about the Windsor Star article! It dropped from .09 to .01 instantly! Huge sell right at the open!
Appreciate your response and respect your views. Good healthy debate to get to the bottom of this is what is needed. GLTY!
Binzur
Already have and the FBI to name a couple!
HERE's THE PROBLEM...all of the so called assests are in Consultech or Kore. Consultech owns SLJB stock and Petar is the sole board member/owner of Consultech. Kore probably has stock. Petar is the sole board member and owner of Kore! Petar is the sole board member of SLJB! Khan according to the Star article hasn't been active in SLJB since spring. THERE ARE NO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS!!!!! There is no oversight of any of the funds. How about all of the "restricted" shares of SLJB! Who has those I wonder! THIS IS A SHELL GAME and my guess is none of the assests will show up in the SLJB shell! People thought the land for the hotel in ME was a SLJB asset! Wrong it is a Consultech asset that Petar is the sole owner of! Where did all of the money for land in Colchester come from? His wife is one of the buyers! WOW!!! I still think the trading habits of his Kore office co-tennant Sam Sulja will be investigated. This was set up as the biggest shorting opportunity and the deciding blow was not posting the promised AF's on Wednesday! The stock was shorted heavy Wednesday afternoon and first thing Thursday! HMMMMMMMM Sam Sulja is a self employed stock broker! This of course is JMHO...do your own DD!
My financial crystal balls are shattered!
Failed delivery date then bad press! Remember the financials absolute finally due on November 15th, bad press which by Petars own PR was true in fact, just not painted with the brush Petar would have preferred, out November 16th!
YIKES! COLCHESTER BUILDERS FORUM getting uglier by the hour!
From the forum
"I too am investor in his co. {Sulja
bros.} SLJB. This man is a liar , a thief, and a con man. I call him this openly and publicly daring him to respond legally. By the time the stockholders finish exercising their legal rights against him he won't even be building dog houses.
Not my post but I kinda understand where the poster is coming from!
That is the cell phone number a person pm'ed me last weekend! I never called it and only posted the first 5 numbers. Another respected poster pm'd me and told me she had the other 5 numbers!
YOU ARE CALLING PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THE LOCAL LUMBER STORE!!! They know nothing about the corporate side of things! Let them run the local store and sell product! LEAVE THOSE POOR PEOPLE ALONE!!!! They haven't done anything to deserve the barrage of phone calls from angry shareholders!
Hi Jannie! You sent me a pm about a week ago! I am glad that Angela is OK. She was beside herself last weekend, panicked in a bunch of posts about AF/Petar etc. Truly feel she was duped and unfortunately became a part of this disaster. Hope your health is OK. I had major back fusion surgery 4 months ago, lost a ton here and the stress is hitting me right in the back! Hope you are holding up with this mess after your surgery.
Posted by the fourest!
PETAR upset about SLANDER? Here is a quote from his PR yesterday
"Although all the "facts" are true, the clearly evident misrepresentation of them in the article serves no other purpose than the same monotonous sensationalism seen in nearly every publication in North America."
If all of the "facts" are true. Then the article isn't slander.
Someone stated Leslie (who is she anyway and what is her title?) saw the stamped AF's! If I were talking to LESLIE I might of asked here whose stamp was it!
Not shooting the messenger but come on now!
Tx; I got creamed here. Calling the Harrow operation will do nothing! You get the desk girl or the lumber yard Supervisor! There is no board! Petar is the only board member and his roommate at Kore Internation is a self employed stock broker! Open your eyes! I am not a basher, I am a person who got finacially creamed here! Thank God I didn't tell friends and family about this or I wouldn't be able to live with myself! Got to go puke for the 10th time in 2 days now! Coming out both ends very often! At least it isn't blood yet! Just financially creamed here!
Unless you or someone you share an office with are shorting what is obviously a stock that is going to crash when the AF's,(don't believe they exist and if they do they don't even resemble the financials stated by Steve Sulja), that you control don't get posted!
The board has received the AF's, the board needs them translated, the board has set a date certain to release them, the board confirms that the date certain to release them is in fact the date certain to release them..........the board as reported by the Windsor Star is Petar! Who is the CFO of this mega/multi million dollar company? The president stated in the Windsor Star that he hasn't been involved since May. THERE ARE NO BOARD MEMBERS! NONE!
Of course this is all just fiction do your own DD
LOL! There is a KPMG office in Windsor. Do you really think an auditor from Cairo flew to Windsor to clarify something and flew back to Cairo to fix the clarification that he flew to Windsor to clarify!!!!!! Absolutely hilarious!!!!!
I have provided a ton to the proper authorities! News at 4pm! Petar has always taken phone calls on weekends! If I was a pumper who perpetuated what appears to be a major fraud I would be very concerned....hypothetically of course!
My finacial crystal balls are shattered! Do your own DD and don't get mad...get even!
The worst thing to do to rich people is make them poor or send them to jail. The movie trading places!
Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Andrew Fastow.
Dead, going to jail, in jail
Steve Sulja, Petar Vucicevich, Sam Sulja.......HMMMMMMMMMMM
My crystal balls don't work as well as Sam Suljas. Good news is I bet all of the PM's are saved on this site. I bet all of the posts are saved. Follow the trail. The AF's don't exist. They were promoting third party AF in May! I have read back through all of the old LFWK/Sulja merger days. Type GFYM accounting in your search engine and start reading. Someone posted that a pump and dump usually takes 7-8 months! Hmmmmm started in March.....
I really think all of the assets are either fake or in another company like Consultech. Why all of the different companies? Kore International? Where is the supposed $25,000,000 from Wessal? What was SAM's bought with, how much and who now owns it? Who owns all of the land in Colchester for the new development. Where did the money come from to buy the land. What company do the assets reside in? Can you say shell game!
Petar said on the blog that the AF's only show information from the companies that were rolled into the LFWK shell. What companies were actually rolled into the shell.
My crystal balls are financially shattered! This above is only fiction! Do your own DD!
SAM SULJA's supposed first post! Think about it. The Windsor start stated Sam Sulja is a self employed stock broker who happens to share offices with........PETAR! The mother of all short sells took place from 11-08 to the end of the day on 11-15! Read back through all of the posts!
Was always rumored to be an insider! JMHO!
Posted by: allinone
In reply to: EyesWideOpen who wrote msg# 25368 Date:8/2/2006 12:03:41 AM
Post #of 172781
This company is for real. I live in the area that their Canadian operations are located in and have had the opportunity on several days to see them in action. They have ties to UAE and they have thriving operations there. That is all I can tell you at this time. The future is truly based on the fact that those financials you saw are absolutely real!!!
My Crystal Balls are my own, do your own DD before you invest!
STEVE SULJA 7-31-06 Don't let this guy off of the hook either!
"Sulja Brothers Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) announced today that the company is releasing financial information to its shareholders. Sulja Brothers Building Supplies earned $63,047,611.00 during the 12 months from June 1, 2005 to May 31, 2006. The company made $28,371,424.95 gross profit with a $26,023,991.63 in pre-tax profits. Net profits were $15,879,839.69. The monthly financials for 2005 and the pro forma for 2006 will shortly be available at www.suljabros.com.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "We had a good year in the latter part of 2005, thanks to our expansions in the Middle East. A large portion of 2005 profits and revenues can be attributed to our Middle Eastern Operations. We are expecting greater net profit performance in 2006."
LONG SLJB.....rough day!
Sulja is the pumper! His name is on all of the PR's when he was CEO. Read back to the spring! If anyone is in legal jeopardy it is Steve Sulja! He advertised the 350 mil cement deal before it was done. Read back on all of the PR's with his name. The legal "bullseye" is more on him than Petar! Petar announced the Sams deal and that is it! The fact that the AF's haven't come out is not a crime but a very expensive broken promise. We will not see the AF's tonight as Petar has supposedly lawyered up. By L/U I read earlier that staff in Harrow were not sure the AF's would be posted as the lawyers were recommending not to!
These are my opinion!
UNFORTUNATELY
STILL LONG SLJB....have a great day!
AF will not include SAM! AF is from 6-1-05 through 5-31-06. Sam was aquired on 10-2-06!
SLJB-Q & A section has finally been taken down. That has been done fairly recently. It was real UGLY there as well!!! Breath deep...I am going to the treadmill unless I have to puke again!
LONG SLJB........Breath deep and have a great day!
Rook, I know you haven't but others have and this doesn't help! I am down huge! Posting that link just invites the morons to post garbage like the SLJB blog there. I have no choice but to give this some more time. Breath deep and get even tomorrow! LOL!
I am down big but this doesn't help! Don't post any more garbage on that site.
He said last night he would release his letter once the lawyers had reviewed it and then release the AFs. I did find it interesting that he said the AF's would detail the companies (note the plural) that were rolled into the lfwk shell.
Long SLJB....going to puke again!
Absolutely PowerPole! He was on there for over 1 hour. This is a game to him and he really doesn't care about any shareholders!
Nothing staying down, throwing up! Or averaging down cause it is going up! Looking in my toilet I am sure it is the former!
Folks it was a self imposed "dead-line". This is a pink stock and they did not and do not have to post any financials on November 15th. No SEC violation on this as there was not SEC imposed filing deadline!
"Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) CEO Petar Vucicevich reiterated today that the anticipated release date of the audited financial report for SLJB was in fact correct, and that the company and its management are still confident in the 11-15-2006 deadline to publish the report on their website, www.suljabros.com."
On November 8 they were still confident. Guess they aren't that confident anymore.
I am out big time thank god I didn't turn on my friends and family like I was tempted to!
Still painfully Long SLJB! Have a great day between puking!
They can't post L2's as they got scolded by alphatrade or whoever they were using! That is why no L2's today of all days!
Taylor was mentioned but it sure looks like the article was messed with!
put your head between your legs and kiss your a** goodbye!