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Right you are !! You see - Vanguard and Merrill Lynch and the rest of them didn't show up on those reports until Zion started gaining some momentum - and gaining momentum Zion IS! So it would take a lot of misguided "imagining" or dreaming to come up with the notion that somehow they got in back when the price was half what it is now, and kinda used us and made 100% profit LOL.
No the fact is those pesky reports tell us the truth without any imagining and negative speculation needed. The big boys institutional investors got in recently and are here to stay!!!
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Agreed. Good post. Flipping or day trading is harder than it looks like it should be. I have said this before. Over 90% of those who try this lose. Over 90% of those who try this lose. Investing - or buying and holding is different. Invest carefully. Merry Christmas!!
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Not true my friend! By selling AND BUYING ON THE OPEN MARKET over and over I am able to gain hundreds of shares. When you buy the warrants (as I have)(I got my ballcap yesterday in the mail!) the funds are locked up. I am gaining hundreds of shares that will skyrocket in value after December - not foolish.
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Exalctly. Well said. I feel the same way on all points.
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As I mention before it was being shorted on Wed and Thur but not Fri. The ones shorting it
were heavy hitters, and so far they have not made any money for their efforts. Makes for an interesting set up for next week!
In one corner you have the shorters, and in the other you have the institutional buyers. As Zion gets more popular, it will bring in more day-traders as well as longs. The more flippers there are to catch the bottom share price - the harder it will be for the shorters to make a significant profit as everyone will be driving the price upward. I don't think the institutional buyers are going to be that interested in the warrants, but I don't know. It really depends on how much of a demand there is with the institutional buyers right now. If there isn't much of a demand, then the heavy hitters who shorted this will drive it down easily. They could take her down to the $1.90s again. Be careful, and stay ready!!
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One more thing about shorting. When buying long and the share price goes down, you can only lose what you buy with. But when a stock is shorted and the price then goes up, if they don't cover and the price gaps up - they can lose far more than what they put in. If they short at $2.25 and an announcement is made after trading hours, and the stock price gaps up 5 times to $12.50 - well you see how more can be lost shorting than buying long.
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Agreed this well is a winner! How much of a winner we will have to find out. But it is a winner already for Israel by providing information in their quest for oil. Whether we all become gazillionairs or not I don't know, but I do feel that we will be blessed.
The share price may drift downward a bit, but there seems to be some support which is surprising to me. Could be institutional buyers. If it drops quickly, then I don't think it will stay down for long. The institutional buyers will let the MMs take it down and then buy up shares fast. It's basicly a contest between the institutional buyers and those trying to cover their short positions. It was being shorted on Wedneday and Thursday (look at the volume to get an idea of how much), but on Friday they let it go. Those who were shorting it will try to drive it down and then cover. I have NEWS ALERTS set up to let me know if BIG NEWS comes out, or an update, etc.
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Absoltively correct my friend!! You can't get much more honest and open than than this! I know some think Zion needs to put out more updates and news, but as you know, it's a complicated world oout there and they have the Israeli government looking over their shoulders - and rightly SO!!!!! Israel is the best in the world and has to be with protecting herself. In the big picture, We are good and Israel is being blessed.
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Thanks. The big institutions being in this really help my wife and me with our confidence being invested in Zion.
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AMEN BROTHER!! I feel the same way about those poor poor Christians over at Goldman Sachs - bless their hearts. Maybe someone could go and show them how to invest in a more sophisticated manner.
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tisdal you are correct about the 10q showing there is some real potential here. Whenever I read those I cringe because they all sound so bad first reading.
I think you are right about it going little higher too. It did not surprise me at all to go to 2.20 and tomorrow I would not be surprised to see the 2.30s touched.
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LOL Yes So let's look at some of the "unsophisticated" investors in Zion at the moment, shall we. Vanguard Group, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch (not Streep [ I always get those 2 mixed up - same acting ability I think]), Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and more.....My guess is that they did their due diligence. lol
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I'm still seeing 2.25 or maybe 2.28 range either this afternoon or Monday and with all those big name institutional investors that are buying Zion like Vanguard, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Merrill streep, Goldman Sachs, ect, I think we're just fine and in good company as long term investors (and day-traders). Looks to me like they (the MMs [market makers]) are going to let her climb up.
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OK I'll guess: She climbs to 2.25 and then drops to 2.01 and then settles up. lol
Thank you to our resident oil field experts. No questions at this time - just a big thank you for sharing at your convenience.
I'm gaining shares of Zion almost on a daily basis in preparation for the BIG FIND announcement which I'm expecting in December. Things are happening at the well site, and money for all that would not be spent for no good reason. :/)
NO MORE DELAYS. Only adapting and responding to new progress!!
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Since we did not close above that mark - do you think the pps will continue to drop, or do you think the reversal is maybe just a bit slower such as grinding a day or 2 later? I really respect your thoughts on these matters. Thanks for your input. Personally I've said it before - for the life-changing news - I'm waiting till Christmas!!
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Well well well..... I don't consider what we're going through now delays at all. But rather adapting to new and exciting findings. Zion has been searching and searching all those years, and now new steps are being taken to respond to finding what they've been looking for on a whole new level. This is not a delay! This is progress!
KyOil thank you for sharing your insight. It means a lot to many. It really does. Thank you.
Zion is getting ready to bless the socks off share holder value. Remember - it does not matter what the share price is between when you buy and sell - only at the time you sell. This isn't a game. Zion will come through with info at Christmas. Merry Christmas.......
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Take heart spikewins! I AM waiting till Christmas - just as I said. There is the negativity I mentioned - and some of it is paid for, but we haven't seen much of that yet. I am gaining shares as I am trading this stock price while it is being shorted. And I'm not adding a dime to what I've already put it.That's ok by me!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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I think Victor is all but telling us that they DID find something significant, and it is exciting to see all this unfolding.
I read through the letter and replaced "if" with "when" and words like that - gives it a very strong outlook. I think that is probably what we're actually dealing with here.
Gaining more shares here while waiting.
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I felt the same way when I read what you said yesterday about wishing you could invest more. It's coming.
From Zion:
For those of you on our mailing list, we have mailed you the following letter from Zion's CEO, Victor Carrillo, with information on the Unit Program. Please be on the lookout for the letter next week:
Dear Faithful Shareholders and Supporters:
Thank you for standing with Zion Oil & Gas! We continue drilling our Megiddo-Jezreel #1 well in Israel and we are about 3/4ths of the way to reaching our planned total depth.
Zion has recently launched a new $250 Unit Program that ends December 6, 2017.
Please allow me to personally share the key reasons why we are making this program available now for Zion’s existing and new investors.
3 KEY REASONS for Unit Launch:
Ensure adequate cash flow to continue our exploration efforts to finish drilling the well to total depth and properly test the four hydrocarbon zones already penetrated (as identified by independent 3rd party petrophysical analysis). We also want to ensure cash flow to test additional geologic zones we hope to encounter as we continue to drill toward total depth.
We believe we are on the verge of penetrating a key zone of interest, as indicated by increased natural gas shows that are orders of magnitude larger than previously experienced while drilling shallower portions of this well.
Allow Zion Oil & Gas – if this well is successful – to purchase and install production equipment and to map the subsurface in more detail (perhaps with 3D seismic imaging) to possibly pursue field development, if warranted.
The new STOCK UNIT OFFERING will include common stock purchase WARRANTS. For every $250 invested, you will receive 15 WARRANTS for an exercise price of $1.00.
For your convenience, I’ve enclosed the unit program’s explanation/FAQ sheet and enrollment form.
For questions on the Unit Program, please call Zion Oil & Gas at 888-891-ZION (9466).
Shalom and thank you again!
Victor G. Carrillo, CEO
Zion Oil & Gas, Inc.
The money I'm putting into Zion is blessed! Something that was a game-changer for me and my family. Zion will continue to bless Israel and those who bless her. I can't wait (I have to)to tithe on what we gain from Zion. If it goes into my personal bank account on say - Thursday, I now write out a check (or make an online deposit) on Thursday and it is set apart, and bring it on Sunday or whenever I go instead of writing it out on Sunday morning. Zion gains will be included! Game - changer - the other 90% became blessed instead of cursed on Thursday! I'm investing in Zion with blessed money!! Zion is not just an investment - it's a calling for some.
Since you can't post Wise Yoda - yeah I'm in the clouds.......
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BINGO!! Brother! That's what I'm banking on!! He told us "watch for" it!
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Zion could have already given their report to the Israeli government and we may not hear it.
Don't let anyone shake you of your shares, and then watch it soar.
Negativity without links lacks credibility, and negativity that is over 2 decades old is - well - over 2 decades old.
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THERE WILL BE NO MORE DELAYS!
I'm sure Victor will get to the bottom of this : /)
Genesis 12:2-3 is the scripture that I mentioned was put on the front of the ZION investor packet at the top. At the bottom Genesis 49:1, 28 is also on the front.
Don't be surprised anyone when the positive news starts pouring forth - to see more aggressive negativity to come after it. Then ask yourself who would benefit from paying for that? Zion is getting close!!
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The fact that ZION founder John Brown had this scripture placed on investment packets is significant!
Blessings!!!
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Thank you Moses. I am sure that John Brown (founder of ZION) and Victor Carrillo (CEO of ZION) have a plan to counter any negativity whether paid or otherwise with the Truth, and I think we are getting close to finding out what the blessings will be.
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"I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS YOU, AND I WILL CURSE HIM SHO CURSES YOU;AND IN YOU ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED." is at the top of the front on the packet that ZION OIL $ GAS put out. I think it really interesting and that John Brown (the founder of ZION) chose to put that scripture as the first thing at the top on the front of the ZION packet. It is obviously something he wants the investors of ZION to see. That must be a very important part of his mindset as he leads this company we are invested in, and will have a profound impact on all of the decisions made for ZION and therefore all of us who are invested here.
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Moses could you please break this down into very simple terms. Please. Thanks.
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Ultimately Jehovah God will deserve the credit my friend. I have an Israeli flag in my office right next to my United States flag. The Star of David right next to the eagle. For years I have been working in this office without any direct connection to Israel, and then one day I realized - Now though Zion I am heavily invested in Israel's future.
I just bought into the DSPP with Zion mainly for the purpose of helping Israel - and not making as much money as I could have in another way. Why do we do that?? Because we are part of something bigger than us.
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I don't think Halliburton is a "duplicate" of last time.....Things have changed. Please read that book.
THERE WILL BE NO MORE DELAYS.
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Good to see you Wise Yoda!! You did pick a good time to jump back in. We are excited because there is a very different handling of things with Zion this time around. Halliburton, waiting to announce until triple checked, and new accomplishments. All good.
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He forgot to mention the free Zion ballcap!
Go Zion!!!!!
You are blessing Israel through Zion. I believe you will be blessed - not because you are blessing Israel to get gain - but rather because you are blessing Israel simply to bless Israel. John Brown (founder of ZION) has a humble approach in the way he runs this company. I like that. And I am obviously not alone.
We are still on a roller coaster here as there are still those with deep pockets who are shorting this in my humble opinion. That's ok. "so what are you waitin for - Christmas?? .......Yes
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Interesting. Take note that currently the volume is almost 285000.@2.46
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Good advice. .......But we are not following our own diversification rule. We are "invested" in about 8 or 9 different stocks, with about half of our funds in Zion. Zion!!! I am day-trading a small portion of that (I don't want to touch the invested part)so that as I have said I can grow the number of shares we own. We are at times nervous, excited, anxious, but never worried. That's a big vote of confidence for Zion - and no - I wouldn't recommend putting half of your investing funds in any single stock....... But we have.
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Thanks spikewins. Appreciate it. I'm relieved to see what was said and am encouraged by it as well. Yes Zion is being attacked - but this is not a battle of flesh and blood - and Zion is asking for prayer which is a good thing! It appears to me that John Brown has a confidence that no one is going "to get" Zion, but rather those efforts will be dealt with by God successfully. It seems to me that there is a unity throughout the entire company that makes Zion stronger.
Thank you for the follow up. Please be encouraged. May God be glorified by the results here.
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Gotcha - thanks! Hey I'm been wrong all my life, so that one doesn't bother me......but the other one.......thanks again.
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EXACTLY! Thank you.
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Wow - normally a statement like one of those you put in quotations would have set up red flags for me and perked up my ears and raised an eyebrow (which is something cause I'm a dolphin). But I must have missed it. Please could you point me in the right direction so I can go and find it and sharpen my discernment skills a bit please. Thanks.
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