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Impossible. I've been informed by the 'Droids that Pentium M actually has a far larger power dissipation, and that OEMs actually design their enclosures to support 3x the TDP.
Lemmie guess..... It's Ole..... "Centrino is not pulling it's weight", Petz..... Right? Never mind, there's no need to confirm the obvious
Who doubts that the vast majority of 64 bit x86 chips
sold this year will come from Intel? (presuming of
course that Intel doesn't wait on any MS OS slip)
*** Oh I have "no doubt", that intel is moving full steam ahead with EM64T implementation. Like I said, the sooner the better.
A year ago the droids were desperate for Intel to adopt
AMD64 for its stamp of approval. Like the old expression
goes, careful of what you wish for - you just might get it.
Yeah, like right between the eyes. :-O
*** Hummmmm, I do recall a small minority admitting it would be bad for AMD if intel did so. Of course, now those same people seem to be saying stuff like..... "It doesn't matter because it won't be out until 2005..... Ummmmm I mean until late 2004..... Ummmmm..... I mean until the summer of 2004..... I mean.....".
Gee, seems it keeps getting pulled in huh? I guess those Manufacturing PE's are really on top of implementing this EM64T thing, eh? Ask..... And you shall receive
Intel Sets the Prices for 64-bit Pentium 4 Processors
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20040513015429.html
Date for Desktop Chips with Extended Memory 64 Technology Revealed
by Anton Shilov
05/13/2004 / 01:56 AM
Intel had set the prices for its Pentium 4 processors with enabled Extended Memory 64 Technology, X-bit labs has learnt. Apparently, the chips will not be more expensive compared to the products with no 64-bit capability.
Starting from August 1, 2004 for $278
Intel Pentium 4 processors with 64-bit registers will officially start to be sold on the 1st of August, 2004, at speed-bins and price-points equal to the ordinary desktop Pentium 4 chips.
*** Good news. That means there should be plenty EM64T enabled chips available for the back to school rush, and also leading up to Christmas. That's allot sooner then I thought that EM64T would be introduced. The sooner the better IMO.
Taiwan chipset makers face Intel pricing competition and capacity jam
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2004/05/13&pages=A1&seq=1
Taiwan’s chipset makers may see their market shares start declining next month when the US chip giant Intel begins to implement aggressive pricing to push sales of its 845-series chipsets, according to sources at the makers.
Intel is expected to lower prices on the 865, 848 and particularly the 845 series of chipsets on June 27, with the goal of reducing chipset inventory, said the sources.
*** Looks like the whole chip market is starting to heat up. Good news IMO
Wafer Fabs Lord It Over Fabless Rivals
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/article/CA416878?spacedesc=news
The fabless/foundry semiconductor business model is at risk of being swamped by the greater efficiency of their fab-owning rivals, the traditional semiconductor manufacturers.
One problem for the fabless/foundry model is that, at finer geometries, miss-matches between design and foundry capabilities can prove disastrous to yield while foundry capabilities are constantly changing.
Fab engineers save Intel's butt
And AMD always second best
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15891
I mentioned in January that the target specs on the next generation (Tejas) would be 1000 MHz bus (or 1066 depending on divisor) with 2 MB of cache. Since the departing designers do not need to keep these things in their bag of tricks and as they are relatively simple to implement they went ahead and added these already developed features to the production database for the Prescott, leaving the engineers at the fab then capable of generating masks which incorporate these features.....
Since it costs next to nothing to carry the DP and MP circuitry in the desktop chip look for Intel to simplify the Prescott/Nocona/Potomac lines to two chip variants, with and without L3 cache and then use bond out options to select what it can do ala the Opteron.....
*** So..... despite all the reported "roadmap turmoil", It appears that in this case, Manufacturing Process Engineering rides to the rescue, and saves the day..... Again. Speaking for PE's everywhere, all I can say is.....
You're Welcome :-]
AMD Director Sells Shares
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=AMD
Charles Blalack exercised and sold 6,000 shares a couple of weeks ago. May be selling 6,000 more.
Intel Makes 1 Million 90nm Processors per Week
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20040512151634.html
Intel said Wednesday that shipments of its 90nm Pentium 4 chips had increased 1 million units per week by late April, which is on-track with the company’s expectations to ramp up volume production of its 90nm products in shortest time possible.
Fister, 49, is leaving Intel after a 17-year career in technology and engineering management.
I guess he figures Dr. O has the inside track for
the top spot at Intel when grin'n'Barrett leaves.
*** Looks like he didn't want to remain a VP, Plus Cadence offered him a CEO position now..... Well, at least he stuck around long enough to get his second sabbatical :-]
http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=50098
By Edward F. Moltzen, CRN
10:53 AM EST Wed., May 12, 2004
Michael Fister is leaving his post as senior vice president and general manager of Intel's Enterprise Platforms Group to become CEO of chip design company Cadence Design Systems, his new company said.
Fister, whose primary responsibilities included, among other things, Intel's continued development and marketing of its 64-bit Itanium 2 processor lineup, will now take the helm at Cadence after 17 years at Intel. Fister rose to the position of senior vice president in 2002.
Cadence Design Systems, San Jose, Calif., produces electronic design automation technology used in a variety of processor and technology design solutions. The company has 4,800 employees and an annual revenue of $1.1 billion.
"Results From the Latest Hammer Poll"
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1017/
What was prevalent among all the respondents was a decided lack of enthusiasm for Hammers. Even the happy campers pretty much just indicated they'd buy one, without any display of excitement.
That's not a bad thing, of course, that's the way people should be when they decide to spend their money. You want sales, not seizures. But if AMD thinks people are foaming at the mouth waiting to buy these things, that is not what is happening in the trenches. The only foaming at the mouth that is starting to occur out here (and not even too much of that) is not due to enthusiasm for AMD, but rage against it.
Acer first to market Dothan-based notebooks in Taiwan
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2004/05/11&pages=A9&seq=34
Acer will start marketing its first Dothan-based notebook, the Travelmate 8005, this week in Taiwan, making it the first vendor to deliver the next-generation notebooks to the market, according to company sources.
Innovative Intel
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1084017495220270.xml
Colorful throw pillows, employees lounging in comfy armchairs and sofas, the wide-open floor plan -- nothing suggests the rigidly ordered efficiency of your standard Intel cubicle farm, with its acres of 9-foot-by-9-foot cells.
And that's exactly what Herman D'Hooge had in mind. The "innovation strategist" leading Intel's User Centered Design Group, D'Hooge pulled strings all over the company so that he could knock down a few cubicle walls at the company's Hawthorn Farm campus in Hillsboro and create a living room environment. The resulting work space, he says, is more conducive to ad hoc interaction, creativity and fun.
More On Dothan
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA416381
Intel Makes 90nm Work for Dothan
By Richard Ball -- 5/10/2004
Electronics Weekly
Intel is claiming to have solved some of the leakage current problems that have bedevilled the introduction of 90nm processing, the company said today.
The Santa Clara, Calif.-based chipmaker said Dothan, its 90nm mobile processor, is faster, lower power and has almost twice the transistor count of Banias, its 0.13-micron core. Moreover, Dothan uses strained silicon to raise carrier mobility.
“Dothan is the second generation die designed ground up for mobile applications,” said Andy Greenhalgh, mobile solutions marketing for Intel.
A Fresh Perspective on Science at Intel ISEF
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040510/105217_1.html
Monday May 10, 11:00 am ET
Young Inventors Present Innovative Research on World Issues
PORTLAND, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 10, 2004--The next generation of brilliant thinkers arrive in Portland, Ore., today armed with research they hope will improve the lives of people around the world.
These high school students provide original viewpoints that can only be seen at the 2004 Intel International Science and Engineering Fair (Intel ISEF) presented by Applied Materials. The research covers a broad array of advanced topics such as Wireless Fidelity (Wi-Fi), robotics and Mars exploration. Other projects are oriented toward providing solutions for everyday problems, such as a device engineered to wake up drowsy drivers and software that helps reduce emergency room wait times by speeding the admission process. Nineteen percent of the students have obtained or are in the process of obtaining a patent.
OT: IMEC opens research-scale 300-mm wafer fab
Needs Registration
http://www.siliconstrategies.com/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=20000093&_requestid=123169
LEUVEN, Belgium -- IMEC, an independent research organization based here, inaugurated a 300-mm wafer fab Friday (May 7) that is aimed at helping a drive towards nanometer-scale electronics.
The cleanroom, suitable for full 300-mm diameter wafer processing, is now ready for equipment installation.
"Our facility will strengthen the competitiveness of Flanders, Belgium and Europe by further developing high-tech know-how and will serve as a unique place where experts from research institutes, semiconductor companies, material and equipment suppliers around the world will jointly tackle the increasing technological complexities of the nanoelectronics era," said Gilbert Declerck, president and chief executive officer of IMEC.
Intel launches advanced notebook PC processor
Monday May 10, 1:26 am ET
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040510/tech_intel_1.html
TOKYO, May 10 (Reuters) - Intel Corp (NasdaqNM:INTC - News), the world's largest chip maker, unveiled on Monday a new mobile processor for notebook personal computers in an effort to accelerate the growing trend of wireless Internet access via laptop PCs.
The Pentium M processors are Intel's first mobile processors built with cutting-edge 90 nanometre manufacturing technology, which helps the new chips perform faster than earlier models while consuming roughly the same amount of power.
{i]But by 2005, some elements of "TeraHertz transistor" for frequency scaling need to be there especially for Tejas per the 11/2001 announcement. So is there really going to be a frequency scaling problem?
*** If intel is going to be using the Lower power chips on the 90nm and 65 nm Processes going forward, then I believe there is still frequency scaling headroom. With the Prescott design, I think only band aid solutions were available for 90nm. Probably why intel junked it.
Let's say there is. Then the problem could from engineering failing to replicate research results, bean counters failing to buy new equipment, or marketing killing something because they cannot think of a way to market it. Intel has always overcome engineering problems. But Intel has also always been run by Ph.D.'s.
*** Most likely a team effort. The development people want to incorporate their stuff, and it will take this long, and cost this much. Well management has to figure how how and where to get the stuff manufactured, and how much is that going to cost, and the marketing guys want the darned thing out the door in the sales window, or nobody is going to care how many bells and whistles it has, or how much it costs, if it's yesturday's news and nobody wants it. Poor Prescott compromise IMO.
Now the best ideas can be shared among and the best result be picked from at least four design teams (California, Oregon, Israel, India, Texas?, Arizona?).
*** Better way to go for sure. India's been coming on strong, along with israel for design, but it appears to me that the Process Developement is still mostly happening in Oregon, seeing how most of the future 300mm 65nm people from Arizona's Fab12 conversion are reportedly being reassigned there. California is becoming too expensive for initial process development IMO. Texas is small potatoes for intel right now AFAIK.
What's more curious is the IA-64 and IA-32 merge plan. My impression has been that Prescott has 64-bit X86 support that can be turned on if necessary. But the real stuff is that Tejas will have IA-64 support. Now Tejas is no more, how/when is a X86 processor going to be able to start executing IA-64 code?
*** That is the Billion Dollar question, isn't it? Wish I knew
:-]
Another interesting thing to note from the article is that IBM now says frequency scaling is "dead". This is very different from Intel Research's position.
Oh I think there may still be some life left in the old P4 130nm girl yet, otherwise, intel wouldn't be going through the expense, time and trouble to add additional metal layers to P4. Additional Processing steps don't come free.
Say..... I wonder how high Pentium M would scale on 130nm.....? Interesting, no?
Are you suggesting that had Otellini been CEO instead of Barrett, he would have resisted the "dot.com" temptation?
Tenchu
Even if he had still done it, I believe he would have moved more slowly, and been more cautious. IMO, Otellini is more of the Andy Grove mindset, then the Craig Barrett mindset, and I recall reading somewhere that when Andy was asked if he would have followed the same dot com path that Craig did, he said something like I may have done it, but more slowly. I admit, hindsight is 20/20, and it sure seemed like a good idea at the time, but I think there was no reason to dive into it as quickly as intel did.
Not that PaulO has asked me my opinion lately or anything, JMO :-]
Slightly OT: TSMC Scores Record Sales in April
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/article/CA415948?spacedesc=news
Online staff -- Electronic News, 5/7/2004
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. today announced that net sales for April reached a new record high of $618 million (20.63 billion Taiwanese dollars), representing a 3.3 percent increase over March.
On a year-over-year basis, net sales for the month increased 35.2 percent
And Where oh where art though..... Fishkill IBM? Oh Yeah.....
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/04/21/HNibm_1.html
OT: Chip stocks hold in positive territory
http://tinyurl.com/2koeh
By Chris Kraeuter, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Last Update: 4:46 PM ET May 7, 2004
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) - Most chip stocks managed to close with gains Friday, even as the broader market failed to capture early increases caused by economic data showing strong April jobs growth.
The Philadelphia Semiconductor Index ($SOX: news, chart, profile) added 1 percent to 457 and the Goldman Sachs Hardware Index (GHA: news, chart, profile) edged down 0.1 percent to 227.5.
For the week, the chip index added 3 percent and the hardware index added 1 percent.[/I]
Intel Financials
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=intc
"The End of (Easy) Scaling"
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00579/
Ed Stroligo - 5/7/04
According to Reuters and the Wall Street Journal, Intel is supposed to officially announce today that they're not going to bother with the Tejas generation of PIVs/Xeons.
This ought not come as too much of a surprise to those of you who read this last March, and we openly wondered whether Tejas was going to see the light of day a little while back.
Yes, this a major announcement that will effectively knock Intel out of the box in the cutting-edge overclocking world for at least something close to eighteen months. This essentially leaves us with whatever AMD chooses to offer.
Nonetheless, the biggest aspect to this story is not the "what," but the "why."
Now if a lowly Willamette system is giving me such problems, imagine the problems that could stem from a potential Tejas system, assuming Tejas' heat troubles were just as bad or worse than Prescott.
Tenchu
I saw the posts...... Tough Break with your "Willy" (no pun intended). IMO, I think the recent chages in direction at intel could possibly be the result of a little "Otellini" bird wispering in Craig's ear.
Tweet Tweet..... WAKE UP!
:-]
Intel denies Potomac technology canned
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15780
That indicates a large re-organisation at Intel because our sources also indicated that the desktop group will assume responsibility for producing the Nocona design.
Nocona is the server version of Intel's Prescott chip. The fact it's been re-assigned to DPG indicates that Intel regards it as a low priority project.
It also suggests to us that future CEO Paul Otellini is acting now to re-engineer Intel's entire strategy, in the run up to him taking over sometime in the next nine months.
it's pretty clear that Otellini's influence is starting to be felt. Don't expect any of those wild "dot com" spending sprees, to be repeated in the future.
Intel Cites Tech Progress
For Canceling Chip Line
By DON CLARK
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
May 7, 2004 11:54 a.m.
SAN FRANCISCO -- Intel Corp. confirmed that it is canceling plans for its next major microprocessor line, but said the move stemmed from progress with a different chip technology rather than technical problems.
Yeah, my B.S. detector just went off big time, and I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell anybody who believes that statement. More likely it was both progress on different chip technology, and out of control power "technical problems" on the original design. I can say one thing positive about the move..... It's about time intel "woke up".
Intel's 'causal learning algorithm' to reduce IC test costs
http://tinyurl.com/3c9lx
SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Looking to reduce the soaring costs of IC test, Intel Corp. hopes to leverage its "causal learning algorithm" technology for wafer sorting applications in the fab.
Intel is looking to deploy its machine learning technology within standard automatic test equipment (ATE) to predict chip failures in the wafer sorting process, said Gary Bradski, manager of the machine learning group within the Systems Technology Lab at Intel.
The technology is expected to provide a major "cost savings on test algorithms," Bradski said. In theory, the technology could detect 70 percent of the errors in 10 percent of the die in wafer sort, he said in an interview at a press and analyst event at the company's headquarters on Wednesday (May 5).
Intel to debut Dothan on Monday
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/06/intel_dothan_debut/
Intel will launch its 90nm Penitum M processor, codenamed 'Dothan' next Monday, 10 May, sources close to the company have confirmed.
As yet there's no confirmation of the launch's details. However, Intel is still expected to unveil three 90nm Pentium Ms, clocked at 1.7GHz, 1.8GHz and 2GHz. The chips will carry the model numbers 735, 745 and 755, and be priced at $294, $423 and $637, previous reports have suggested.
SAS®9 Available For Intel® Itanium® 2-based Systems
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20040504corp.htm
CARY, N.C. & SANTA CLARA, Calif., May 4, 2004 - SAS and Intel Corporation today announced the immediate availability of SAS®9 on Intel-based servers and clients. Intel's joint effort with SAS expands on years of collaboration between the two companies and will help users expand business intelligence throughout the enterprise by using SAS 9 running on Intel® Itanium® 2 processor-based servers and Intel® Centrino™ mobile technology-based notebooks.
Re: Report: 1Q PC sales don't meet expectations
--- Possible additional indicators of Q1 decline....
http://tinyurl.com/yujx3
Intel rules as PC graphics chip market declines
TIBURON, Calif. — An estimated 57.5 million PC graphics devices were shipped from eight suppliers in the first quarter, a 7.4 percent decline from the previous quarter and a 12.9 percent increase over the same period the previous year, according to market watcher Jon Peddie Research.
Intel Corp. recorded a moderate 3.8-percent quarterly decline in graphics shipments during the first quarter but saw its market share jump from 31.7 percent in the fourth quarter 2003. to 33 percent in the first quarter.
Issues When Moving Beyond Your Core Business
http://www.forbes.com/ceonetwork/2004/05/04/0504bookreview.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
Book Review
Moving Beyond The Core
Kern Lewis, 05.04.04, 10:27 AM ET
Some firms face bigger challenges than others in moving beyond the core. Zook and other authors say that Intel (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) actually has trouble growing through adjacency moves, not because of poor management but because of the overwhelming managerial demands of its core business. Even when Intel made progress with adjacency moves, they ended up fueling increased demand for the core microprocessor product, again drawing managerial attention back to the core business. As Zook notes, Intel discovered that it was more valuable to "give away technology and quickly disseminate it in the market, rather than try to build a business around it." Most companies don't have such a resource black hole at the center of their businesses, but Zook notes that not enough companies properly assess the effect adjacency moves will have on the core business.
Intel Doesn't Get It (Cough)
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/gilbert/articles/0428evthomason28Z6.html
Fab! Intel insourcing jobs during shutdown of facility
Intel has it all backward. The world's largest computer chipmaker just doesn't get it.
Instead of keeping pace with American businesses and taking another opportunity to outsource well-paying jobs overseas, Intel is outsourcing more than 800 of its Chandler employees to the distant lands of New Mexico and Oregon.
Twenty workers actually did leave the country for Ireland. But they'll be back.
The motive is to retain the valuable and highly trained Chandler workforce as the company shuts down one of its computer chip-making factories for a $2 billion upgrade.
That is the root of my original question. Ring topology
is nothing new. But
Jerry said "...patent..."
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/1057/IDG010504amd_intel/
AMD and Intel renew cross-licensing agreement
ITworld.com 5/4/01
George Chidi, IDG News Service
Major U.S. computer microprocessor manufacturers and bitter rivals -- Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD) and Intel Corp. --announced Friday that they had renewed their cross-license agreement.
The companies have signed four patent cross-license agreements since 1976, said John Greenagel, an AMD spokesman. "Anything that we patent they can use, and anything they patent we can use," he said.
"Give It Back!"
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00572/
We are amused to point out that AMD wants the FX-51 systems it handed to reviewers back and won't give them socket 939 systems until they do.
It sure shows them who's boss, doesn't it?
It should show you, too.
When you let the puppeteer attach the strings, you tend to get jerked around.
Does anyone have an opinion about what will happen to the stock price once options have to be expensed? I asked my husband what he thought and he thought it was already factored in to the the price right now, I wasn't so sure, anyone have any thoughts?
I think it's going to initially depress the stock. After a relatively short period of time when the analyists adjust their models, some sort of eqilibrium will be established. I'm more concerned about what "method" is going to be used. Will different companies adopt different metrics? Will a "standard" be established? And even if it is....... Aren't there also problems with the model of the "leading contender"?
http://www.valuationresearch.com/4_news/2002_12.htm
In summary, the Black-Scholes model works fine for publicly traded options, but fails to accurately value employee stock options. In our experience, the Black-Scholes model, not adjusted for appropriate discounts, overstates options values by more than 50%. Black-Scholes is an appropriate starting point for valuation of options, but we recommend applying discounts for lack of marketability and restrictions. For more information regarding valuing stock options, contact your Valuation Research representative or Alfred King at (609) 243-7013. VR
AMD Director Excercises And Sells 24K Shares
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=AMD
23-Apr-04 SILVERMAN, LEONARD
Director 12,000 Option Exercise at $13.44 per share. $161,280
23-Apr-04 SILVERMAN, LEONARD
Director 12,000 Sale at $16.30 per share. $195,600
22-Apr-04 SILVERMAN, LEONARD
Director 12,000 Option Exercise at $13.44 per share. $161,280
22-Apr-04 SILVERMAN, LEONARD
Director 12,000 Sale at $16.60 per share. $199,200
What's up with this? I thought the Opteron was supposed
the ice queen of server chips, x86 or otherwise
Hey, I really liked your "Sikorsky" remark
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2933963
ROTFLMAO!
I get it..... No..... Wait..... Wait....., I know..... I know..... maybe, all the users should get..... a Chopper Pilot's License, before they sit down at this system!
ROTFLMAO!
Oh Man..... I slay me
but I personally wouldn't attack him for doing his job.
Tenchu
True, I agree, you have to do your job. But my point is, you can do your job by standing up and walking with the fair and equitable web publications, or you can snake belly down in the mud, and slither with the supermarket rags. Sometimes, the Inq Does do both, so I'm only interested in criticizing them when they slither. Mageek is the top guy, so he's ultimately responsible for the editorial policy of the Inq, and therefore IMO an appropriate target for criticism of apparent displays of bias in that policy. The Captain of the ship is ultimately responsible for everything that happens on that ship.
JMO :-]
AMD delays Athlon 64 3700 launch until June
It is the inquirer so it's a rumour not fact:)
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15509
What I find enlightening, is how they treat this apparent news. If it was intel, there would have been an entire 3 page expose on how intel is falling down on it's face, and can't get a darned thing out the door, but since it is the Inq's Beloved AMD that's apparently having an issue, what do we see, is the Inq writer's comment.....?
"Oh Well".
And when I recently e-mailed Mike Mageek pointing out several iHub Posts where intel fans were pointing out deficiencies in AMD, I expected some sort of small blurb on the Inq pointing them out, since Mike was such a fan of pointing out the Droids slamming of intel..... What do you imagine was his response to my e-mail?
"PAH".
Yeah..... That's it, 1 word..... That response, and the writers comments on this this story, have made it very clear to me (again), that Mike Mageek and his intel bashing rag, are not interested in negative news or commentary, when it applies to AMD, only when it applies to intel..... I'm not surprised.
Perry, who was hired in 2002 just prior to a major restructuring of the chip maker, got 1 million options, or about 15 percent of options granted to employees. He also earned $350,000 in salary, a $20,000 raise from what he would have received had he worked at the company for all of 2002.......
Also paid Perry an allowance for housing and related taxes of $117,000.
Well OF COURSE they had to give him all those options..... After all, the guy can probably barely get by on that measly ole Quarter Million Doller plus salary..... Takes allot of Money for Luxury Car maintanence, don't you know? And that Housing allowence..... WELL, let me tell you, I've tried to live in the Bay Area, and SHEESH, you wouldn't believe it..... Those Mansions around SFO can be so expensive to rent, right?
But hey...... Nobody should be shocked at ANY of this. After all, Ole Perry "Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend" Transmeta Boy, no doubt learned his "trade", seated at the foot of ole "Gimme Mine" Jerry Sanders, so why should he care about the investors? I for one, am not surprised..... in the least :-]