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good i was beginning to doubt! hang in there jerle ....las vegas awaits!!!
when this is all said and done..we need to start another board. with all the DD done here we could scour for the next best greatest things and dissect them and continue the golden road of prosperity and the friendship. i really appreciate everything done here. and when you get a group of people that are honest researchers intent on making millions, you dont have to worry about bashers. we need to name it!!! anyone? gn,biz,guru,dp,etc?
was in it at 16 and ran to 28 and i got out. i just dont trust govt tarp receivers. have you seen cit today! bought at .70. awesome! they restructured themselves no govt help.
whats the target price? high?
how are they substantiating the move? books havent changed. lawsuits rampant. i think alot of people are going to be left holding the bag. they have pumped and reversed to half two other times. even the new CEO is MIA! he is in corsica sunning his bunz. running on rumor not news! dangerous.
all aboard!!!!! next stop fort knox. and no iou's please!!
easier to google conspiracy planet and the rothschilds...look on the list and it will say federal reserve fraud the rothschilds.
rothschild? its not just a he. its a family empire. they screwed napoleon in the day!! go on conspiracy planet.com and read. i cant explain it as well as they do. just to say MM's are manipulating things is an understatement entirely. read and you will know why. if you can link for everyone else's enjoyment it would be appreciated. i am not that computer savvy.
hey j, irs has been threatening with that tax deal for awhile. just trying to slow down the mojo. wamu is owed excessively more than what the irs is going for. they started their crap and weil said fine we want all our back refunds! two can play this game. this article is just reiteration to scare some people out of their shares. weil has this one under control! no worries!!!
hey biz, check out wapedia-wiki jpmorgan chase. sorry i dont know how to transfer links. they have a wonderful synopsis of the dealings and history of jpmc. and the billing statement about london i bet was about their visit with rothschild. if you look on all statements his calls are blacked out, his emails redacted,etc. he does not want a trail leading to him. even though he is the heavy that plays the fed reserve like a fiddle. lawyers have to go there mostly. and attorneys are very tight lipped about what transpires. read on the website about the rockefellers and rothschilds. or google them. they have run this country and every other one using the fed reserve to keep their empire's coffers filled. they rule and countries answer to them not the other way around. "soprano like" i bet he plays a big part in the outcome of this. it is getting very hot at the fed with the freedom of information disclosure ruling the other day. this could blow the fed wide open. total criminal mentality imo.
thanks biz!!! nice to know i have peeps! goodnight.. see ya in the morning.
weil will not let this linger! they have billions in cash that is ours and it is not interest bearing like it should be. this is illegal. they are making billions upon billions that they said wamu was going to be a sizeable liability with respect to the assumed mortgages. you cannot continue to prosper off something that was stolen and have not truly paid for it in a true auction. this will be settled!!! and settled soon. i need a dramamine!!! jerle your wishy-washy posting is making me ill. one day your up and the next your down. scared, frozen investors get killed in the pinks. take a chance. like warren buffet says.... buy when everyone else is scared. better price better return. especially with a star board like this ...nothing will get by them. we are not dummies here and we are not using chump change. we are in it to win it!!! get off the fence jerle. you know you get hemroids sitting too long!!!!
since my income is social security is that considered so i can contribute to a roth? i thought you had to have a job and earned income to contribute? i have a traditional ira but havent rolled it yet. this is all cash in my account. is tax time going to be extreme?
shoutout to GN, hesthman,billiam or anyone that can answer this. i have never figured capgains on such a big number. what do you go off of your tax bracket, short term table, for figuring taxes on 3 million? i certainly dont make this on a regular basis since i am disabled. does the number get plugged in at 35% short term , 15% long term and that number is then offset by deductions to arrive at a tax. or do you know a ballpark figure ...just wondering how much i can gamble with in vegas on my birthday!
bravo !! couldnt have said it better myself. the voice of true reason Bill !
wonder how much in charity tax we have to pay under obama to give it away to our churches? wont be able to write off anymore. how gross does that sound? the govt is insane!!!
doc, madame is sooo old sounding. i'm holding at 41 for awhile. but thank you!
that should be just enough with damages to buy the whole wamu shootin' match! (holding co. and bank) fdic needs to settle or most will go to pay our attorneys fees.
thanks but i'm a girl !!
definitely!!!! we are in the usairways family!! las vegas bound in jan for my 42nd birthday. and to celebrate 5 yrs cancer free from stage 3 melanoma cancer. i retired before the takedown of wamu. and i prayed that something like this would happen. i have already pledged 100,000 dollars to my church when we settle. god is good in soooo many ways.
no but it doesnt matter its all the same cusip. there are traders here that owned pre and are adding more post. this bk was due to need. they were voluntarily filing to get away from the wrath of bair and dimon and have the protection of bk court. we are golden!!
oh i'm just fine i'm makin a bundle but stagnation kills me. everyone here knows whats going to happen. we're going to leave all these other stocks in the dust and leave people saying wha hapn? thanks for the pep talk just wish i had more money. cap gains are killing me. just cant go in and out of this stock since i bought at a dollar and then 2.65. i'm stuck.. but in a good way!
that's a little depressing...i'd rather have the cash!!!!
how do the 10/21 and 12/21 dates coincide with reporting for jpm? they obviously are "picking" these dates for a reason. maybe to decrease the hit they will take when everything is said and done. what are the reportings or filings that are big to jpm that the bk exit date could disrupt? and since the stocks are 100% sold for all intensive purposes...preferred and common will be paid. i think tpg will have a say in that...who knows? maybe when the chinese were here talking to geithner they got an advancement to save the peace. why do you think they laughed at him? over there thieves get their hands cut off. i'd hate to see what dimon would have gotten cut off.
they cant control judge walrath!!! wmi wants out in september. and the judge's responsibility is resolution to stockholders,bondholders and exiting corporation. wmi didnt ask to be in this situation. they had to file bk to get away from fdic and jpig and stop the transfer of title. i dont think anything is owned by jpig but they are sure acting like they do!!! they couldnt have had time to complete documentation thus the shrivener's error. fdic and jpig didnt know 4.4bil was there until it was pointed out by weil and his rushed filing. they did have a 3.1a it was deleted to save face of the fdic for illegal seizure. how could they justify taking a bank they deemed "systemic risk" when the money that was paid was a fraction of what we had in depositis in our own bank!!! crooks i say just pure evil!!!
when waste management came out of bk they took wamus old symbol wm. when things come up about them it appends to wamuq because the ticker wm is in limbo right now. it wont clear up until our symbol is changed out of bk. it is speculated that washington mutual will assume waste managements old symbol wmi. washington mutual has already changed their name by adding a comma. it changed from washington mutual inc to washington mutual,inc. after the bk breakout the symbols will work perfectly. washington mutual 8-k shows their cayman preferred shares were exchanged back in sept o8 for "wmi" shares.
why would jpm want the name? i'll tell you why.. because they suck at customer service and consumer banking! jpm needed a new identity and they used wamu!!! think about it ...why would you want the name of the company that undercut you at every turn and cost your company money because they inhibited you from charging exorbitant overdraft and crap fees because they didnt? because wamu knew how to run a bank and were very customer friendly and didnt gouge them. jpm needed a new identity! but they failed to understand you cant "put lipstick on a JPIG." trademark was not mentioned in the 3.1a. i read it before it was deleted. jpig will pay dearly for trademark infringement. you cannot use someone elses name to promote a product they didnt endorse. you think wmi endorsed the raping of themselves? i think not!!! washington mutual and jpig were bitter rivals. dimon salivated for the wamu empire. he has been schemeing for a long time and it took a concerted effort by otc,fdic,jpig, feds and gs to take them down. but little did they know the trap was set for the rats to be caught! wmi built the better mousetrap. dimon is toast unless the money flows!!! i still hold firm that wmi does not want to be bought out they just want the money for their banks and trademark infringements. then watch out!!! payback is hell!!!
i just dont feel fdic or jpm has the money. for sure jpm doesnt. how sneaky were they to get 10 investors to cough up the 1.9 bil for wamu. none of their own money involved!!! they are the sly ones. thats why they allow hedge funds to buy, invest and run banks now. that was not allowed prior to takedown of wamu. then they throw fdic under the bus saying we were solvent all along. i feel if wmi wants to be bought they would get money for their bank and jpm would run wmi as a subsidiary with back divis paid plus preferred stock in jpm. their divi rate will be close to wamus orig of 77.50/shr. but i think the only thing jpm wanted was to cut wmi to its knees, take anything they could and pull the plug on them. weil, i feel set jpm and fdic up. with the 4.4 bil deposit it caught them. how could you pay 1,9 bil for a bank that held a liquid deposit by the holding company of 4.4bil? when paulson told them they should have taken the deal offered or suffer the consequences...that was a strong signal to washington mutual to bunker in and wait for the fireworks to start. and boy did they!!! wmi will stay wmi if they dont want to be bought out or dont receive their ultimate price. why would they go thru the mess of doing the name change, and fighting tooth and nail to annialate jpm and fdic except to say that they are about reputation. this is case law for future takedowns of banks and they are setting the precedent to free banks from facism and tyranny. and they will prevail. that is why geithner said there will never be another wamu!!! no there wont because this case will tie the hands of the fdic and the fed reserves manipultion of our banking system. they will have set strict guidelines for the next time so this systemic BS never can be an "excuse" again.
looking good!!! now all we need is the certified check! maybe not...just think about that...a check certified by jpm and backed by fdic. double negative? what a joke that is really..dont you think? our banking system is running on fumes. i saw the other day that we have 627 trillion in bad derivatives floating out there somewhere? when is the music going to stop? and who will be left standing? washington mutual will for sure. their books are clean. go wamuq!!!!
your welcome..sorry i didnt reply sooner . went for chinese and scoped my new home at the lake i have been eyeing for awhile. god is good and the truth will set wamuq free!!! or might i say a couple crates of benjamins will !!! jpm on life support...madoff funnel bank, takedown of the biggest bank and holding company in the history of the u.s., and stepping on GS toes!! watch out Dimon..you're not untouchable. someone needs to give that man a cigarette and size him for an orange jumpsuit i think. jmo sf
GN, are you asking if i am dimeq? no i am not. i havent seen that name for awhile on here.
i was right. the cayman pref shares were exchanged for shares of "WMI" stock on sept 25!!! look on the 8-k. they are taking the ticker symbol previously waste managements. waste management took our old one WM and washington mutual, inc is WMI !!!
the wmi stock we hold is the holding company. but fdic is running multiple wamu outlets in the ny area that jpm didnt want. those are still ours. i dont feel jpm or fdic will buy the holding company and the holding company has agreed to sell what banks they wished to acquire but for a price. not 1.8bil but much more. jpm and fdic i feel dont want the entire company or better yet to pay for the entire company. thus providian, cherry picking of the cc company by jpmc but owned by the holding company. they are segregating accounts now at jpm. mine was tagged with a wmc (washington mutual corp) and orig date of my card when i had to redo my username and this has never happened before. i was orig providian and they changed to chase but with the wamu name on the front. a noticable trademark infringment! jpm will pay dearly for that too. my opinion is that they are going to come out of bk in sept as planned. they have already changed their name with the sec. they changed the name by adding one comma. instead of washington mutual inc. it reads washington mutual,inc. they have a ticker symbol wmi that is available because of the previous company changing their ticker to wm from wmi. (waste management) they have so much money in the holding company and real estate. they could truly come out and kick some royal wall street butt and buy any bank they want and continue on. i hope they turn out. i am holding for divi's. or they might be doing all of this setup to force the hand of jpm and fdic. wmi was jpm stiffist competition. i know they want elimination but they have to pay for that! we'll see how far the pockets deepen here soon. and their is a little company GS that got shut out of this competition, and i dont feel they would go thru the bother of setting up the tpg-wamu marriage with 7 bil then short the stock to oblivion to mimick a failed entity, just to let their competition succeed. they thought they were going to be victorious. and i think they are waiting for the opportunity to jump in. they and everyone else knows what happened. that is why the banks arent lending now. because if wamu with its holding company, that was solvent, was taken down by fdic for "systemic risk?" who would have been next? holding companies are sacred in banking. it is a massive power grab for fdic and the fed reserve. fed reserve is not accountable to u.s. but since the ruling yesterday about the feds having to disclose under freedom of information act, who knows what will happen. this could truly blow up in their faces. this was illegal in so many ways to the american people as taxpayers, the wmi family as stock holders, and jpm stockholders for non disclosure of solvency. jpm was in trouble and if they had went down so would have social security. wamu saved their ass and they will pay soon. but in what capacity wmi will return is pending soley on how deep the pockets run. either way we are golden!!!! hold your shares because i feel a bidding war a brewing!! they could offer whatever then GS or wfc could run the bid up. dont sell too soon. jmo, sf
viva, i knew there was a reason the market was running up aig,fnm,c, etc!! just what you showed in your post about the fed losing its case on dislosure. these stocks and most bank stock especially jpmc will definitely be on the hotseat along with GS. these stocks are making money now but they will definitely be the big losers when dislosure happens. investors will pull money out of the market and out of the their accounts and run for their mattresses. i see this as a positive for washington mutual holding. they will get a couple banks dirt cheap and their books are clean because they have exited bk!! hopefully labor day. everything is coming up roses for us and weil is definitely in the drivers seat!! jmho. sf
thanks!! Weill will get all he came for. washington mutual is about defending reputation. by their defense team you can see they meant business from the get go. they will win and i think things are going to heat up further. i still feel GS is not going to let jpm just walk away with the prize. they know an official auction never took place. i feel they are still a major player!! maybe bidding war? hope so!!!
i dont think washington mutual's name has been destroyed, especially when it is found out that fdic, jpm, and gs conspired to take them down. from what i see jpm is riding the "wamu" train to build consumer base. that will be a trademark infringement they will pay dearly for. especially using it on the credit card they stole from the holding company ..providian. WMI is showing up as a ticker and it was originally waste management but now it is coming up on scottrade with info in conjuction with wamuq. also the providian cards that say wamu on the front have chase on the back. this was stolen from the holding company. when i tried to sign in on my account i had to change my username and it kicked back the username with the suffix wmc040189. (washington mutual corp and the orig date of the credit card. they are segregating the orig wamu cards for return to washington mutual upon settlement. (they stole the property of the holding company and should have not conveyed) as to the name i dont care what they call it as long as they pay me!!! but the name was changed by washington mutual...all they changed was a comma. the name was washingtom mutual inc now its listed as washington mutual, inc. the wmi ticker fits perfectly. i feel they are going to turn out as soon as settlement is done. i dont think a stock swap will happen. i think they will turn out with their credit card company providian, their banks currently run by fdic in ny, and their nol's and open a can of whoop ass on jpmc. just think about the "good bank- bad bank" scenario floated by fdic. we are the only one that could be the good bank. we know what we have and our books are clean!!! no other bank can say that. we will be the catalyst for the entire banking system. phoenix from the fire. and rich people drinkin in vegas!!!
wouldnt it be sweet justice if wmi got their 52bil for the bank. came out and bought failing madoff conspirator jpm for a song!!! and wmi would get their banks back and jpm would get theirs.
the other morning early on cnbc, they had a lady that wrote a book on the madoff ponzi scheme. and by name she said that jpm knew what was going on. by the simple fact they withdrew 250 million from the fund before the story broke about the ponzi scheme. she said they were willing players and that is why they have their accounts frozen in italy and france. thus the "global settlement" to come. i feel dimon is a puppet for rothschild. there is no way he could have thought this up all on his own. his partner at bank one called him the smoozer not the brains! used car salesman mentality....something for nothing.
but if you bought shares below a dollar is it worth the conversion to preferreds? or just hold steady? thank you.
what do you mean? with all of the large institutions holding this stock preferred and common and adding positions, why wouldnt we go up with news?