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I think I'm probly confusing you with one calling out scambag, dog, crook, liar, scum, etc. Like I said, I don't want this to happen to you, man. Just keep us posted. Take any opportunity to mend fences or clear any air, if it occurs. Avoid unnecessary risk, imo.
I could've written your post before you. Rest my case, utterly predictable. I will say, the DD sticky did have your moniker, so in retrospect, it is your right to remove
Look. I like Springroll, he's been very cordial in pm's to me and I don't want him or anyone else to be sued. BUT, you cannot libel a non-public figure in a public forum via newspaper, magazine, book, or even a silly internet message board. Especially when commerce and publicly traded entities are concerned. That's why I have posted that people need to watch their rhetoric and accusations. You cannot just say anything you want, doesn't work that way. I'm sure JDB's lawyers would not tell him to go forward with such a thing if he didn't have a leg to stand on. Think about it? You all are very smart, articulate, and intelligent, but do a little critical thinking and use some logic, AND don't libel or defame without concrete PROOF PROOF blinkety-blink PROOF.
SHOULD NOT THE BOARD MEMBERS VOTE VIA SURVEY TO REMOVE IBOX AND DD INFO?? Little childish no? Anyone else agree?
LOL! See your point. Either way, we'll all still meet in Vegas for cocktails and good times. I still have my cigar in my office at work ready to be lit and smoked all the way outta the door!
Here's the story/link I was referring to...
http://www.hotstocked.com/article/1825/lehman-brothers-holdings-inc-pinksheets-lehmq.html
Hi all! Did any you notice the story that the creditors plan in the UK may start seeing assets returned to those hedgies and municipalities around the middle of March or so? That would coincide with the possibility of seeing a reorg outline of Lehman, tentatively scheduled for end of q1 stated in the last State of the Estate. Sure hope those timelines are met and we can begin to see some clarity here. There will be setbacks, but each passing day, we get closer. Here's to hoping 2010 is our year, one way or the other. Would love the full face of our Prefd's, but I'm sure we'd all be ecstatic for as little as 20, 30, 40, or even 50 percent. These aren't all or none in BK situations are they? Thanks to all for a great board and for sharing thoughts, ideas, and great DD.
I like that post. That is what has kept me in this company and why I stay. I could have sold and made a nice chunk-a-change, that was my original plan, but I just didn't pull the trigger. Call me half-brained, naïve, stupid, whatever you want-but I've made that choice.
EXPH is real, has tangible products, and has clients that are household names. Its why I am long. I am very glad I don't make my living this way, I haven't the stomach, heart, or know-how for it. I own no other pink, just bankrupt companies, where at least I know its either feast or famine-no grey area. There are many upset people here, I included, but its the nature of things in this crazy PinkyLand.
All that said, iyou either feel exph/etc will be an eventual success or you don't. My hope of all hopes is that only a handful(20 or so) people hold the vast majority of shares. If true, then we rock one day. If not, then its gonna be up a little, flip, down a little, flip, so on and so on. In the end, its all YOUR CHOICE to be here or not. My wish is that all the know-it-all, snide, finger-pointing, gotcha-game comments and back and forths will lessen. Another naïve wish, I guess.
Let's just have some flippin news, good or bad, sooner rather than later. Sorry for the long post, even if I believe brevity to be the soul of wit, lol. Good luck, all sor's need it....bad
Can JD disclose the # of sor on the NOBO, not names, just a #? I know some holders wouldn't be on there, but u think that would violate anything?
Of course that is, I meant since TD and Nite via Etrade stopped buys, sells, or whatever the hell is going on. ST stopped buys afetr the 700mil + shares traded the days after 9-15. If they were sooo concerned for clients, why did they not stop b4 then? Edit- nevermind, it did occur b4. I'm obviously an idiot, lol
If so, then why would one hold their shares? No large sell-off?
Just an observation, the 0/S # on etrade now reflects the 999mil or so. For the longest time it was still at 500mil. Does anyone know how these brokers update that info? Just curious cuz for so long after increase in a/s-o/s it still had the 500mil. TIA
Excellent observation Jeremiah. To those that actually care about ETC via EXPH, that isn't bad at all, imo.
It has been stated by CEO that Expo/DD will do most of the production of the cabinets. Welcome aboard Dude
Again, understood. Meat would be choice, but I think it might be awhile.
Understood. Well, have your convo's made you more or less secure in your investment(loose)?
Did he tell you that neither he nor any other insider has sold one single share since inception? If so, do you believe him yet? And if you do, doesn't that knock another conspiracy theory down? Reason I ask is that the more people he tells this to and the more often, there's no way he is lying about it as some have recently opined. TIA
That goes without saying, lol Never a dull moment. News would be nice to give us something else to opine about, whenever that might be...
So in the end, all this means jack-diddly-booty-squat. Low volume means tightly held shares til the next round of flippin? Oh joy
Neither do I. Just think its logical that if this is so bad for exph as some say, then you would sell while you can
Honest and nonantagonitic question. If this is doom for exph, then all have sold all or are in the process of selling ALL their shares, right?
I sure hope so. Then wouldn't that mean with the right kick, this sucker should run like a meth'd out hillbilly escaping from the cops?
What does that mean? Surely they still have shares of exph, or it doesn't work that way? Sorry for the questions, just tryin to understand this...
5, Why would NITE do that? Too much bs and oddities with pinks lol
Did he reiterate to you that he nor any other insider has sold one share since inception? In your opinion, is he honest in dealing with you and answering your questions? He has been with me, just want your take since recent developements or lack-thereof over the past few weeks? Thanks again
Thanks for going the extra mile and reporting your thoughts. There's just too much odd $hit going on with this stock ever since 9/15. I myself am just looking for where the truth lies and to get honest answers. As you said, we will just have to wait and see. Waiting sure is hard though, especially looking at the pps as it stands today. its like an car crash, agonizing to look at, but I still can't look away. Thanks again for your report.
Spring...in reference to your PM, I can respect that very much. That's the kind of honesty that goes a long way. We all have our differences here, there's some good banter, a little too much piling on, but that's to be expected. Good luck to us all, sure looks like we need it.
At least you admit that you are no longer a shareholder and you have been consistent in your criticisms of the company and CEO. I hate doing what if's, but I think it is appropriate here. If insiders have not sold one single share, if q3 and q4 are some day released and the $6mil rev's are met or close to met, and the divy occurs and the major retailer is indeed announced, where then do you see the company? Also, if the show a true net profit? Going on your history, I'm sure you will give an honest assessment.
What myth? Burden of proof is on the accusers. To build a case you need evidence, inside info from the company that you can't request to get since you have no right to obtain discovery info. Only the SEC/Fed's have that power. I'm just messing with you guys. We all know its a waste of time and won't happen, so let's not entertain it. You guys present better arguements.
This again? Good luck with that suit. Funny, how are you going to obtain company financial and other info without the "discovery" process before trial? Uhhh, uhhh, gee your honor, I made tons of money off this company, and now that I haven't recently, I wanna sue, huh huh huh. Ain't gonna fly. Oh yeah, by the way, JD shows he and Glen haven't sold one single personal share, guess what...that's right Johnny, countersuit and defamation suit against the accusers. Let us know how it turns out. LMFAO!
What recent discoveries? Provide proof as well, you may sway me
Neither do I considering he confirmed that they are restricted. Anyone got proof otherwise? Nope, just speculation.
Thanks for your response Rock. It's gotta be close to 2bil, traded the last 3-months (750mil in about 4days after 9/15) I just don't understand the concept of trading shares that may not exist, whether to make a market or not. Doesn't seem right. Admittedly still have much to learn. But if Taki at one time bought/held the entire a/s of exph (one added up his posted buys) it just doesn't make sense to me. Thanks again.
So, 4k is the only one so far to opine regarding my questions. Now c'mon, some of you have a penchant for being verbose. I'm sure you can give me some insight or an idea? Where's Lurk? He always answers my posted questions with solid insights. Surely some of you have an opinion or idea. TIA
There are two things that confuse me. Scotturd halted exph buys a few days after the MASSIVE sell-off. Ameriturd did so the day Taki opined some infamous group of big buyers were coming into the stock, right? Wouldn't that indicate FTD issues? IF insiders did not sell their shares during the run-up as has been claimed several times over, then what gives I ask? How can approx 2bil shares of a stock with an o/s of 990mil happen? Please educate me, those that know much more than I about pink trading. And what are the consequences/outcomes? TIA
Edit- and a/s of 1bil
GM 4kids. Happy New Year to you. Let's get this ball rolling asap. I think we're looong overdue for some news and good fortunes. Look forward to new conversation pieces, the sooner the better.
I'm not aware of one given. Lots of unanswered questions I hope to be cleared up next week.
"It's been a long December and there's reason to believe, maybe this year will be better than the last...." Let's hope so for EXPH/ETC. If anyone comes accross another pink with F-500 clients, loans with chartered banks, and no toxic financing like expo, please let me know. We need some long overdue news and announcements this month. It's go time!
I am wondering the same thing. What stocks are included? The J's, C's, D's, F's and G's are ADR's. I do know that British Telecom traded ADR's thru Lehman. Would be sweet if some of our Prefd's are included in that. Just more mystery I guess lol
Again, I agree. I'm willing to wait it out.