SAYS: TPG GETS PAID, ABIGHAMMER GETS PAID !!!
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you know what boxer?? you make references to the anticipated stock climb into the stratospheric .10-.15 range that greg hoped for. now you have cut your expectations down to 6-7 times less than that. you say at least we know what we are dealing with, as far as a real company hiring, and growing. the fact remains, we really know absolutely nothing. greg can say hes hiring ten, twenty, fifty people. we dont know. and as far as the acquistions go, well... i wont even go there, i went thru it yesterday. we know nothing, because he does not release facts and figures. its only conjecture at best on our parts. as far as him being a respected CEO.... well... uh.. i wont go there either. i mean, in whose eyes? LOL !!! you guys need to remember something with all these grandiose price projections.... until we get some concrete numbers of costs of acquistions, and/or revenues, the share price is going nowhwere. additionally, consider this, you dropped your price expectations 6-7 times downward, we are still 6-7 bags away from your "NEW" price expectation. think about that a bit !!!!
phil, i am pretty much in agreement with you all on the non dilution theory. in fact, if you recall, i suggested MM manipulation. if i am wrong, and you/we are also correct in the non dilution, what is your supposition for the sell off??? surely wasnt profit taking, so hopefully you dont say that.
sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....... unfortunately it will never go to jury. how they gonna find A: an unbiased one, or B: a jury of the accused peers ???? lol, oh well.
hey, thats the way it goes, no? theres always the peace corps. hey, on another note i always hear this term, caveat emptor... what the heck does that mean, anyways????
well, greg should tone down the chest thumpin, and shoulder slappin and big mouth rhetoric that includes TOTAL TRANSPARENCY GUYS !!!!!, and quit conning us.
and it seems you missed a couple of items from the post that it seems you are making reference to inasmuch as are/were the deals ever done????? a LOI is not a deal, even in a novices mind.
oh.ok... great. sounds pretty valid to me too !!!! nice first post of yours, BTW.
diamond, or anyone here.... everytime i read this link about the seizure, i keep reading over and over the first sentence...
Due to recent actions by the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) and JPM (JP Morgan Chase), it has become apparent that Washington Mutual Inc. (WMI) will have to fight seemingly endless court battles to get proper compensation for its assets which were illegally seized and virtually given away to JPMorgan Chase (Stock Symbol: JPM).
i guess i am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but most hammers arent. that being said, what is being referred to by "recent actions by the fdic and jpm"...??? i know jpm filed suit/countersuit... etc... but, what has the fdic done at this point? have i grossly missed something? or is the sentence in the article just generalizing... being ambiguous?? thanks guys !!!
"lets roll !! "
bman old boy, it sounds to me like you are voicing some disgust over promises made, not kept. hhhmmm... and, perhaps with good reason. maybe we should be asking ourselves whats going on here... maybe we should get back to basics... lots of caveats here for people. convicted felon, predicated on fraudulent activity, no less.... gagged TA, never a good sign. and lets examine a couple of things which in my eyes, no one has really touched on. the two "said" acquistions. lets look at the first one.... we have here a LOI, letter of intent to acquire "rights", to a tv show, which isnt even on the air yet. now, further along, has the LOI been executed, brought to fruition as yet? and, geee.... how much is it for? how much is it costing us? ok, number two, we acquired national cyber security. whoaaaaaaaaaaa.... holy crow... they are a massive internet hub gobbledy gook somethin or other. anyone know their revenues? the guy said they were in business ten years. how bout this.. what did we shareholders pay for this great company, anyone know???? i am amazed, just totally amazed no one seems to ask, or care. all everyone seems to do is expound all the b.s. that gregg spews out all over that utube nonsense. let me say this, if that name and symbol change doesnt come like, real real real real real soon, we all had best start examining things a bit closer.
2late.... no, i dont believe you are wrong. in fact, i think your logic parallels mine in a way inasmuch as genta knows their pipeline is bonafide, and they took the necessary means to achieve the end result. however, if philg and seabiscuit are correct, and the shares proffered to that investment company ARE NOT even issued as yet....i have this question... what caused the massive dump/selloff??? i will give two scenarios in my head... one, it wasnt us ordinary shareholders doing it by misreading the sec filings. secondly, in light of the recent major good news, i.e., the law suit being dropped, etc.... i think the mm's were very well running short on shares, and manipulated this crap in the early hr. or so of the day. with all that said, i still say we go back to basics.... gnta + funds + pipeline = success.
yes. we'll still be waiting for the name/symbol change.
yes, we'll still be waiting for the stock price to increase.
yes, we'll still be waiting for management to quit dumping stock.
yes, we'll still have to endure people saying .15 by june, when we are closer to triple zeroes than one penny.
need more?
thats one hell of an interesting article, particularly if you click some of the included links. i think we should make joe wiesenthal one of our new best buddies. we keep getting articles like this out in the open, the pressure will keep mounting.
another thing, it really amazes me when i read the comments that some people make at the end of those types of articles just how many people hate us/wamu. they seem to revel in the joy that millions of us lost billions of hard earned money. oh well, i guess there are haters and bashers in every aspect of life. you would think we would get some alliegance of sort considering how bad times are right now from the american public.
the news came virtually @ end of day, and yes, there was a virtual stampede @ end of day. monday morning, barring anything ridiculous over the weekend or pre open, there will be a real stampede head to rears trying to get in.
if the press are relentless like they were on aig (of course aig is out of the limelight ALREADY), the case will be settled. if not, could be a year i suspect, or more. i hope not, but, who knows.
i agree totally. todd has to be running out of shares to dump. next week, hopefully we will see a nice increase !!!
i dont know. i have a tendency to look at things from a simplistic point of view at times. down to basics. i read the stuff on some of these board, analyzing this, charting that, candleabras, upsy downsys, white cross, gold cross, reverse cross, ninja dojos.... i really think most of it is just a crock of sh459t. that being said... i thought about the p.r.'s, the filings, etc.... and heres my simplistic take..... we cannot anyway deny gentas pipeline. its massive, and probable. now, to make that pipeline feasible, to make it happen, we needed funding. we got it. ok, so perhaps, and i emphasize perhaps, it would dilute the company, somewhat. but if there was ever a case of the means justifying the end, this is it. we got funding, we continue, gain approval, and then what??? of course, its simple, we skyrocket. honestly i think if people took this stuff apart a lot less, we wouldnt see days like this where buying eclipsed selling and we get hammered on share price. i realize the mm's are bad news, but i think some prudent thought could have pared this demise today dramatically.
you want some chatter bestever???? heres some that i seem to dish up on a weekly basis every week for i dont even know how long now. gregs famous company is closer to triple zeroes than it is to .01 by a wide margin. oh... lemme see, he made two acquistions already. lol, yeh, but guess how they were funded.... d-u-m-p-s-t-o-c-k !!!! oh, dont worry, things will change in a heartbeat when the symbol/namechange occurs (why, i dont know) possibly sometime this year... LOL. last time i heard it was going to be very very very very very soon !!! anyways, i probably have to adjust my gtc order, it probably expired since it hasnt filled yet.
raw.... ikeep reading this p.r. over and over, and trying to look for holes in it so to speak. with the exception of not naming the acquirer, i really dont see any to speak of. that said, i'll say this, if the p.r. blows up, or is a scam in any sort of way and doesnt pan out by some b.s. reason, i would pretty safely say the powers that be would be all over these guys and this company shutting it down immediately.
anyways, double digits monday.
"lets roll"
AND WAY MORE BUYS THAN SELLS !!!!!!!!! THINK PEOPLE THINK !!!! PIPELINE... PIPELINE... FINANCING IN PLACE !!!!!
ITS A NO BRAINER.
well, next uptick that happens if i can glean enough to get out of this mess, i certainly will.
the above is what i said. obviously, that never happened. address the topics at hand, if you want to make a meaningful comment.
thats a crock of crap in my opinion. most likely the reason no contract is signed, because MD cant figure out himself when the mill is going to be able to start delivering the product. no wonder there is no contract. and speaking of the contract, dont you think it would behoove anyone with half a brain to sign one predicated on a floating, or fixed scale tied directly to comex daily price? lets be realistic here, huh? the newspaper article yesterday, delays, etc.. it all adds up. no one knows when production will start, and all the while during the wait, we get shares dumped on the market by management. you wonder why the share price is going the opposite of up?????
theres no bag to be held here. we still have a bona fide pipeline, and now funding to get to the fulfillment thereof. use your heads, and see the light at the end of the SHORT tunnel.
agreed. if hanging tight is possible, the opportunity levels we hit will be filled and return back on the way up. let it correct. the financing news is not a death knell certainly enough. there are upside benefits, no??? getting money coming in is definitely beneficial. we shall see shortly the turn around.
well, this is excellent news. yes, for management, and not the shareholders. there it is, in black in white, by its own hometown (almost) paper, spelling out the whys, and why nots that management should be continuing to dump even MORE shares than they already are on the market, reducing share price. oh, yes, and of course there is still no specific timetable about when the mill is actually going to start producing. lets see, one of the posters just earlier said we need a big set of balls or something to that effect for the mill. and, now of course we have the newspaper version based on lack of financing, AND how to dispose of the most valued item we
(will someday) have, the concentrate. hey.... tmstocks..... you seem to have pretty good knowledge about things within the company maybe you have an idea when.???? as clint eastwood said in one of his movies.... this is turning into a real cluster &^*##%$ !!!!!!
raw.... i've been long on patriot for a bit here. but, i value your opinion. i think todays showing was not quite as indicative as one would have imagined relative not only to the news we received, but, along with news pending. your thoughts? i mean, i think we can x out profit takers, no? with this kind of news, and the current price who the hell would sell? your thoughts are appreciate. TIA !!
i'm not totally up on all the sec junk, but i understand numbers a little bit. what i gleaned, and i am hoping i got it dead wrong is this.... they are giving the lenders 500k shares for every thousand of principle they put up, with the first 6mm being available immediately. now, pretty simple math tells me that there are 6 thousand thousands in 6 million. my friggin caluculator cant even figure out how much 6 thousand times 500,000 is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf is going on here???? please, please tell me i am way off base here !!!! reverse split would be worthless here, it looks to me like they need to increase the number of shares, lol. i dunno, i havent digested it all too deeply yet. lets get some help bangin this out huh??
this sucker cracks two, it may keep going for a while. you got that psychological barrier, and people wont want to miss the ferry. ferry? to quartersville !!!!!
"lets roll"
we need to try to get over half a cent, AND HOLD IT for more than one session. .10-.15 is eons away at this rate, and without name change. keep dreaming at this point, but, i guess thats all we have to do these days.
its probably because hes full of crap. check out my reply to him, and in conjunction with cindy q's spewing. we need to get todd to stop dumping. then we'll see a price rise quick.
heavy d.... with the exception (pehaps) of the last sentence or two, i think this is far and away one of the best posts about our current situation at hand. and folks need to re-read your post, and put it into context with this one. seriously.
i think theres a lot of eyes on genta right now, particularly after the r/s crap, and after the conference the other day. and coupled in with the release of lawsuit, lots coming into play here. people need to realize, how little this company is worth TODAY on the books. pfizer, lilly, merck, i dunno, whoever you want can fart, a muffled one for god sake and buy this company out.
now, personally i dont think that will happen. i thing what you say has truth. the owners/management have their balls in this company, and for many years now. i truly feel they believe in what they have developed and created and want to see it to fruition. for mad scientists, i dont think its about the money. its the glory, the end result, the fame. so, to that end, i think we will partner with someone, if we havent already, thus giving us a major cash infusion of sort, thus raising share price substantially. then, further down the road on approvals, we really reap the big iron.
"lets roll"
Posted by: hoops2156 Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:20:17 PM
In reply to: JV44 who wrote msg# 13249 Post # of 15349
I am going t say this one last time4-2 we wil be happy. For those of you who believe it is going to Da moon AKA $2, you may be disappointed. My best guess is that it will spike to around .80-1.05 and then settle in the .5-.65 range. This could also change if a partner jumps on board. What we all need to remember is that the folks at GNTA have mortgaged their organs to keep this thing a float. I mean even the land lord wants back rent at 18% interest. I do believe that come April we will be happy as long a we equals peole who bought in recently and not years ago. While i would love it to go higher and go now...it is my HO that everyday that we stay neutral is a good day. We are still a float and one day closer to agenda spellng out some good news!! 4-2-09!!! All IMO...wink wink
LMAOFFFFF.....nahhh... thats certainly not twisting things you heard or making more of it than it is. nahhhh. lol, you want credibility??? try dictionary.com
seems to me i recall not all too long ago that your own alias had its very first encounters on this board as well. i think what we all have to remember is, there are bashers, and pumpers on every board, and the two of you complement each other nicely. i will say this about cindy q... she sure knows an awful lot of stuff for someone that feels duped. i still think we can get some pin action on the share price if todd quits dumping stock. ahhhhhh.. who knows... maybe next week perhaps??
bank.... does apex have a new symbol for the newly reorganized company? i cant seem to find anything. TIA
you're pretty accurate. this thing has been finishing eod strong lately it seems.
i'll say this much. everyone can put through all the conjecture bullcrap they want about whats going on here. number one there is obvious dilution by management. i dont give a hoot about restricted this, or that, they have family, friends, assoc. and someone is dumping, period. furthermore, all the happy horsehockey about the grand opening, gold coins, copper coins, hundred dollar bills, whatever.... heres the real deal, simply put that no one can argue with, and profess not to understand: we dont start grinding rocks, or whatever the hell they do with it, to make copper, the only place this stock is going is the same way its going today. DOWN!!!!
thats a pretty incredible p.r. we should see some more investors/speculators climbing on this for a ride. unless they dont fear any s.e.c. retribution, this is looking quite nice.
starting the turn upwards and onwards guys !!!!
"lets roll "
dude, be a man and take one for the cause. JUST SELL ONE FOR GOD SAKE WILL YA??????!!!!!
could you call him back and ask if he would stop dumping shares for a little while so the share price might just climb a tad??
dude, you are hardcore.. LMAOFFFF
"lets roll"