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PwAg - Thanks for the informative technical lesson. It looks like this "stuff" will be of use to a huge number of people. JMHO kp
dragon man - you are a shareholder. Don't whine to this board -get on the phone and whine to Jeff Andrews or Frank Pringle - I think the conversion is about to be completed. JMHO kp
Yes Fogg, I gathered you are pissed. The company itself probably had nothing to do with some hypers in the UK. If you have the certificates, you need to take them to the transfer agent and exchange them for free traded shares in GBRC. If you want to sell at that point, have at it. Please call or email Jeff Andrews at the Company if you want help - His contact info is on the web site.
They have cleaned up the financial reporting that needed to be filed to complete the registration for the conversion and for the application for listing on the AMEX. They have added people to their BOD as of today. Things appear to me to be progressing as they promised in their PR's. JMHO http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/071001/clm147.html?.v=26
Below is a 8/6/07 quote from Hawk Hogan - the "Hawk 10" Engineer:
"We do manage to keep up with the variety of applications and as long as the patent is still pending we can include (submit) the new applications in the patent application. Once the patent is issued then it will be too late to add anything new and we will have to file new patent applications specific to the new discoveries. I’m told our patent should be awarded around the first of Fall 07.
I hesitate to tell you about the latest discovery because people already think we’re crazy but I view it revolutionary beyond what we’ve already accomplished."
Hawk Hogan
GRC, Chief Engineer
Joe - I followed a couple of stocks on Raging Bull and came over to IHUB in July to read the boards on those same stocks. There seems to be more intelligent and informative posters on IHUB. At least they try to monitor and limit the childish name calling, foul language and off topic crap that RB allows.
I'm retired from a career in advertising and marketing in the SF-Silicon Valley. I lived in the heart of the high tech Palo Alto-Menlo Park venture capital world and, although I was not directly involved in VC, I did marketing work for many startups that were funded by VC firms - household names today.
I learned how VC people survive. Of 10 new startups funded, 2 would flourish, 2 would fail, and the other 6 might keep the lights on and meet payrolls but not return much to the early investors. The 2 that flourished had to be terrific winners to offset the other 8. I also learned that good technology is not more important than the character and abilities of the people who own it, or have the rights to it. Many companies with "great tech" fail.
To take their money out, VC firms have traditionally relied on IPOs. Since 2000 they've become incredibly time consuming, and expensive to do. Many good private companies have turned to merging into existing shells rather than going with an IPO. Pink and OTC reverse mergers can offer terrific returns - plus it's a lot easier for the little guy to get in on the ground floor action! You still may only hit 2 of 10 big winners. But it's fun!
I delve mostly into the character and honesty of the people who will be running the company and I give a lot of weight to the people who support them (advisors, customers ??). I found that individuals and companies succeed because of what "other people" see them as, not what they see themselves as. If I sense their product is useful to a large number of people, that's all I need - "usefulness". I'm too old and out of the loop to spend all my time on the technical stuff. I prefer golf and tennis. Most companies going public (by R/M) already have a "usefulness" track record. That's where I hang!
I think MCCY has a very useful product and they are bright people - maybe naive but learning fast. Their management skills may be stretched a little right now but that's ok if this is a long distance race and not a sprint. They're adding impressive new customers to the web site list almost every day.
Good luck to all of us,
KP
Fogg - Small companies that can't afford their own promotional staff give free traded shares, restricted shares or sometimes cash to stock promotion companies to promote their company. In return, those firms then work with brokers, newsletters, email and phone spam to build up interest.
The company itself is then free to concentrate on their R&D, patents, contracts. etc.. - at least in theory. GBRC currently has a contract with Quality Stocks - go to links below and check their "disclaimer" to find their compensation. KP
http://blog.qualitystocks.net/?page_id=13
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=22925758
2win - Yes you can jump up and down - huff and puff - yell - or whatever all you want. All I'm saying is they have no legal obligation to listen to your and I personally do not want them wasting precious management time doing it. JMHO kp
"And regarding the demand - yes we can."
Sorry Joe, but this time I disagree with you. I don't think Temple should go to IHUB jail for one aggressive post. lol They may have made some mistakes, but I'm not sure what the actual cost of the shell was because I don't know if that has been verified anywhere?
Either people trust management or they don't.
It's Management's job to decide why, how and when a white paper should be assembled, what it should contain, and who should prepare it - they decide if an order from the DOT is more important than an order from XYZ trucking - they negotiate takeovers - they negotiate contracts - they decide who does the financials and when - they order product and decide the best way to ship it and where to store the frigging inventory. They decide how to best structure the company and when. They do all this because they are the only ones around the table privy to all the facts.
As a retail shareholder, our only choice is to trust them or to go elsewhere.
We have no official say and cannot "demand" anything. We can only hope they do things right and report their progress in a timely fashion. They decide what a timely fashion is.
My DD on the management team indicates they are highly intelligent, are making good decisions, and have some real heavyweights supporting them. They are displaying an unusual degree of transparency through the new web site. To spend endless amounts of time second guessing and micro managing everything is a total waste. I pray they don't waste any of their precious time sifting through the micro management trash on this board.
JMHO - kp
Sorry Fogg - you are asking a nest of TRADERS, many with absolutely no interest in the fundamentals of the Co. Many are short hoping the price will go down. It is what it is, a pink sheet stock with wide spreads between bid and ask. However, there is currently above average trading volume in GBRC.
If you are looking for a $1000, third party verified, analyst report - you will not find one. This is a small start up and there is not a big enough market for any legit analyst to fund an independent report. They can't sell enough copies to make a profit.
You must do your own DD and come to your own conclusions. Relying on opinions on these boards is like sitting down at a poker table full of professional players. They will say anything to take your money.
Good luck!
kp
"I would love to read a genuine independent respectable review of the prospects of Mobilestream Oil/Global Resource Corp instead of just the parroting of their own press statements on the various sites you come across."
Fogg - Good to hear the transfer agent is asking for the certificates since that tells us that it should be happening soon. There has been no announcement yet regarding a conversion date although the financials have been filed with the SEC. Should be soon.
All shares will be free traded once converted. Here are some links to get information.
Good luck - kp
Headlines: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBRC.PK
Web site: http://www.globalresourcecorp.com/About%20Us.html
The engineer: http://www.phdesignengineering.com/phdesigncom_000004.htm
IHUB board: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=6995
Hardballz - Some impressive people have been to GRC and viewed the technology first hand. I tend to take their word over anonymous posters on message boards. kp
Scrap magazine. http://www.box.net/shared/e72muhqt8s
The DOE. http://www.globalresourcecorp.com/DOE-REPORT.pdf
Ingersoll. http://www.ingersollprodsys.com/ingersoll-production-system.htm
Hardballz - again you take things out of context to advance your own agenda. Why not present all of the opinions posted on the Google board instead of carefully selecting just two! Anyone who relies on opinions posted on message boards for their DD is an idiot. Real DD is done directly with people who don't hide behind phony names. Message board posts are personal opinions only!
Please stop throwing other people's opinions at us as if they were DD. There are a lot of GBRC posts on Raging Bull and other boards, but I don't think of any of them as being "relevant" unless you are a trader trying to either bash or hype the stock. JMHO kp
Here are all the GBRC posts on Google since Sept 14. Interesting entertainment - especially the first one!
http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.702605/browse_thread/thread/add15b9fb0daab4c/0be65364....
doog - Do you have any info on the status of Ross Wilson who was Director of sales for the US at one time? He does not appear on the web site. kp
to_profit - I would like to comment on your complaints about the way Huppe is handling things, but I'm confused by your references to three types of patent infringements? Could you please clear this up! kp
"Can anyone explain to me in simple words how a patent infidgement issue may not affect “ability to progress in the market” and what information “MCCY shareholders will be very pleased with” [ref 1)] In fact, there are expensive lawyer fighting to settle the case and burning investor’s money with no guarantee they would win. The problem is it may turn out either way. Worst case MCCY may face patent infridgement charges, which are huge. RIM paid $600M+ last year for the patent infredgement"
Hardballz - If they "appear to be relevant" why don't you research them immediately and get back to the board ASAP with answers. Our fate may depend on what you uncover! kp
For anyone doing due diligence on GBRC, here are two posts from "Google Finance" that appear to be relevant.
Hardballz - This is a GBRC board for people posting their opinions regarding investment in GBRC. Would you please place this kind of off topic post on the Coca Cola board so the rest of us don't have to read thru dribble. Thanks in advance. kp
RV - sent a PM regarding MCCY. Are you able to receive PM's?
kp
Sept 27 short interest was still 363,734. Down only 24%.
Expect more dribble from certain uninvested posters for a bit longer. IMO
GLTA kp
Rin - My personal opinion of Frank and Hawk is to trust them. The questions I have is will the conversion happen soon and who is trying to undermine their technology? JMHO kp
Volume dropped to nothing? Pechala selling 2 week and 12 month forcasts???
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MSRM.PK
Hardballz - So where is your apology? Hopefully the "open-eyed" on this board will get the necessary "other side" of your "too-BAD-to-be-true-stories" and act accordingly.
NO ONE should make investment decisions based upon anything that anyone on a message board has to say. JMHO kp
Hardballz - Message boards are for personal opinions only. If you want to know how deep the friggin thing goes, I suggest you call them direct. Best you don't use a phony name like Hardballz!
Where is your apology to this board for posting someone else's opinion as your own (plagerism) in yet another attempt to try and tear this company down (agenda)? Whoever is paying you should ask for their money back. JMHO kp
Rinvino - Hard to say what's up. Not huge $ volume - around $150,000. Hardball is back bashing on the GBRC board? Maybe they didn't unload all the GBRC shorts on the last trip below $2.00? kp
Hardball - You're at it again. Bashing this company through carefully couched innuendo. The material in your post is not yours and you are passing it off as your own. Pure plagerism. Either you straighten this out with another post on this board or I will expose you and report it to the SEC. I know the source. You forgot "figure 1" and the missing "A" section. By the way, spreading misinformation through carefully couched innuendo is illegal.
If you would have taken the time to check the GRC web site, you would have found the following description for either tar sands, oil shale, depleted wells, drill clippings or whatever. GRC does not use " In Situ Microwave Heating" in their process as you have tried to imply.
" GRC TECHNOLOGY
The TAR SANDS are bombarded with our specific microwave frequency in the form of “molecular vibrations” which causes the “cracking” of the hydrocarbon chain. As a result, the hydrocarbon components in the TAR SANDS are gasified. The NATURAL GAS is then collected – the remaining gases are converted into OIL.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
The GRC Energy Recovery Technology operates in a 100% vacuum. Nothing is released into the environment."
There is a good visual description of their process on Hawk Hogan's site if you know how to scroll down.
http://www.phdesignengineering.com/phdesigncom_000004.htm
kp
DWP - this information should answer all your questions. kp
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=23182862
defireman - I'm still confident the "open-eyed" will get the necessary "other side" of all your "too-BAD-to-be-true-stories" and act accordingly? kp
"FOLO is a bunch of stock photos with a vague description of its abilities and incarnations, rife with horrible spelling and grammar mistakes"
"A picture of the GUI would be a good proof. Or the photo of their server equipment would also do just as well. Let's not forget that software must run on infrastructure."
"Then there's no proof we can rely on at all? And you're comfortable leaving your $ invested in a fact vacuum?
"PS. I've just received confirmation that there's a paid pumper on board. Take it as you will."
Thank you PwAg for taking the time to post this information!
Should be an "eye opener" for those on this board looking at this as an investment. kp
Mike - Just maybe they have provided all the hard evidence they can right now by listing "some" of the contracts on the web site without exposing all of their clients to harrasment by IHUB posters (most of whom are not even investors). It boils down to who you believe the most - the phds or the third graders! kp
"I just wish they would provide hard evidence of the contracts, which should be relatively easy to do if they exist"
DWP - I'm still confident the "open-eyed" will get the necessary "other side" of all your "too-BAD-to-be-true-stories" and act accordingly? kp
DWP - This is not a consumer product. If you are looking to buy something for you car, you may want to look elsewhere. I don't think all the commercial customers who have ordered the product so far did it because of the company's silence regarding the product.
You may want to call the sales department and order one. It's up to you. kp
"Do you think the company's silence regarding its products is a sign they're wonderful?"
DWP - The "picture" is very clear to me. Maybe you need to hire a technical consultant to bring you up to speed on how it all works? I don't want to sound like a do-gooder by steering you away, but if you don't understand it, maybe this stock is not for you.
kp
DWP - I thought this was a board to discuss who has a better product, not who is the biggest liar? kp
"Sorry this is a discussion web site. There's no rule that Raphael's lies can't be challenged. In any case the reason the stock price drops is because of share price dilution and management incompetence and lies."
pops6x - I have confidence the "open-eyed" will get the necessary "other side" of all the "too-BAD-to-be-true-stories" and act accordingly? kp
"All that is needed is for everyone to ask themselves is, who gains by putting a negative spin on something they are not invested in, hmmm?
tapper - You won't find answers to those kind of questions on this board. I suggest you email Hawk Hogan @ GBRC. Let us know what you find out. kp
Mushroomking - This is why we need to support companies like Silverado regarding our future energy needs. kp
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JIM CASH, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
I wrote recently about the war in Iraq and the larger war against radical Islam, eliciting a number of responses. Let me try and put this conflict in proper perspective.
Understand, the current battle we are engaged in is much bigger that just Iraq. What happens in the next year will affect this country and how our kids and grandkids live throughout their lifetime, and beyond.
Radical Islam has been attacking the West since the seventh century. They have been defeated in the past and decimated to the point of taking hundreds of years to recover. But they can never be totally defeated.Their birth rates are so far beyond civilized world rates that in time, they recover and attempt to dominate again.
There are eight terror-sponsoring countries that make up the grand threat to the West. Two, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, just need firm pressure from the West to make major reforms. They need to decide who they are really going to support and commit to that support. That answer is simple.They both will support who they think will hang in there until the end, and win.
We are not sending very good signals in that direction right now, thanks to the Democrats.
The other six, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Libya will require regime change or a major policy shift.
Now, let's look more closely.
Afghanistan and Iraq have both had regime changes, but are being fueled by outsiders from Syria and Iran.
We have scared Gaddafi's pants off, and he has given up his quest for nuclear weapons, so I don't think Libya is now a threat.
North Korea (the non-Islamic threat) can be handled diplomatically by buying them off. They are starving.
That leaves Syria and Iran.
Syria is like a frightened puppy. Without the support of Iran they will join the stronger side.
So where does that leave us? Sooner, or later, we are going to be forced to confront Iran, and it better be before they gain nuclear capability.
In 1989 I served as a Command Director inside the Cheyenne Mountain complex located in Colorado Springs, Colorado for almost three years. My job there was to observe (through classified means) every missile shot anywhere in the world and assess if it was a threat to the US or Canada. If any shot was threatening to either nation I had only minutes to advise the President, as he had only minutes to respond. I watched Iran and Iraq shoot missiles at each other every day, and all day long, for months. They killed hundreds of thousands of their people. Know why? They were fighting for control of the Middle East and that enormous oil supply.
At that time, they were preoccupied with their internal problems and could care less about toppling the west. Oil prices were fairly stable and we could not see an immediate threat. Well, the worst part of what we have done as a nation in Iraq is to do away with the military capability of one of those nations. Now, Iran has a clear field to dominate the Middle East, since Iraq is no longer a threat to them. They have turned their attention to the United States. They are convinced they will win, because the United States is so divided, and the Democrats (who now control Congress and may control the Presidency in 2008) have openly said we are pulling out.
Do you have any idea what will happen if the entire Middle East turns their support to Iran, which they will obviously do if we pull out? It is not the price of oil we will have to worry about. Oil will not be made available to this country at any price. I personally would vote for any presidential candidate who did what JFK did with the space program---declare a goal to bring this country to total energy independence in a decade.
Yes, it is about oil. The economy in this country will totally die if that Middle East supply is cut off right now. It will not be a recession. It will be a depression that will make 1929 look like the "good-old-days".
The bottom line here is simple. If Iran is forced to fall in line, the fighting in Iraq will end over night, and the nightmare will be over. One way or another, Iran must be forced to join modern times and the global community. It may mean a real war---if so, now is the time, before we face a nuclear Iran with the capacity to destroy Israel and begin a new ice age. I urge you to read the book "END GAME" by two of our best Middle East experts, true American patriots and retired military generals, Paul Vallely and Tom McInerney. They are our finest, and totally honest in their assessment of why victory in the Middle East is so important, and how it can be won. Proceeds for the book go directly to memorial fund for our fallen soldiers who served the country during the war on terror. You can find that book by going to the internet through Stand-up America at www.ospreyradio.us or www.rightalk.com
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On the other hand, we have several very angry retired generals today, who evidently have not achieved their lofty goals, and insist on ranting and raving about the war. They are wrong, and doing the country great harm by giving a certain political party reason to use them as experts to back their anti-war claims.
You may be one of those who believe nothing could ever be terrible enough to support our going to war. If that is the case I should stop here, as that level of thinking approaches mental disability in this day and age. It is right up there with alien abductions and high altitude seeding through government aircraft contrails. I helped produced those contrails for almost 30 years, and I can assure you we were not seeding the atmosphere. The human race is a war-like population, and if a country is not willing to protect itself, it deserves the consequences. Nuff-said!!!
Now, my last comments will get to the nerve. They will be on politics. I am not a Republican. And, George Bush has made enough mistakes as President to insure my feelings about that for the rest of my life. However, the Democratic Party has moved so far left, they have made me support those farther to the right. I am a conservative who totally supports the Constitution of this country. The only difference between the United States and the South American, third world, dictator infested and ever-changing South American governments, is our US Constitution.
This Republic (note I did not say Democracy) is the longest standing the world has ever known, but it is vulnerable. It would take so little to change it through economic upheaval. There was a time when politicians could disagree, but still work together. We are past that time, and that is the initial step toward the downfall of our form of government. I think that many view Bush-hating as payback time. The Republicans hated the Clintons and now the Democrats hate Bush. So, both parties are putting their hate toward willingness to do anything for political dominance to include lying and always taking the opposite stand just for the sake of being opposed. JUST HOW GOOD IS THAT FOR OUR COUNTRY?
In my lifetime, after serving in uniform for President's Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Bush I have a pretty good feel for which party supported our military, and what military life was like under each of their terms. And, let me assure you that times were best under the Republicans. Service under Jimmy Carter was devastating for all branches of the military. And, Ronald Reagan was truly a salvation. You can choose to listen to enriched newscasters, and foolish people like John Murtha (he is no war hero), Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda , Harry Reid, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and on-and-on to include the true fools in Hollywood if you like. If you do, your conclusions will be totally wrong.
The reason that I write, appear on radio talk shows, and do everything I can to denounce those people is simple. THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR THIRST FOR POLITICAL POWER AND QUEST FOR VICTORY IN 2008 ABOVE WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY. I cannot abide that. Pelosi clearly defied the Logan Act by going to Syria, which should have lead to imprisonment of three years and a heavy fine. Jane Fonda did more to prolong the Vietnam war longer than any other human being (as acknowledged by Ho Chi Minh in his writing before he died). She truly should have been indicted for treason, along with her radical husband Tom Hayden, and forced to pay the consequences.
This country has started to soften by not enforcing its laws, which is another indication of a Republic about to fall. All Democrats, along with the Hollywood elite, are sending us headlong into a total defeat in the Middle East, which will finally give Iran total dominance in the region. A lack of oil in the near future will be the final straw that dooms this Republic. However, if we refuse to let this happen and really get serious about an energy self-sufficiency program, this can be avoided.
I am afraid, however, that we are going in the opposite direction. If we elect Hillary Clinton and a Democrat controlled congress, and they carry through with allowing Iran to take control of the Middle East, continue to refuse development of nuclear energy, refuse to allow drilling for new oil, and continue to do nothing but oppose everything Bush, it will be over in terms of what we view as the good life in the USA.
Now, do I think that all who do not support the war are un-American---of course not. They just do not understand the importance of total victory in that region. Another failure of George Bush is his inability to explain to the American people why we are there, and why we MUST win. By the way, it is not a war. The war was won four years ago. It is martial law that is under attack by Iranian and Syrian outside influences, and there is a difference.
So, what do I believe? What is the bottom line? I will simply say that the Democratic Party has fielded the foulest, power hungry, anti-country, self absorbed group of individuals that I have observed in my lifetime. Our educational system is partially to blame for allowing the mass of America to be taken in by this group. George Bush has done the best he can with the disabilities that he possesses. A President must communicate with the people. And, I would tell you that Desert Storm spoiled the people. Bush Senior's 100-hour war convinced the people that technology has progressed to the point that wars could be fought with no casualties and won in very short periods of time.
I remember feeling at the time, that this was a tragedy for the US military. To win wars, you must put boots on the ground. When you put boots on the ground, soldiers are going to die. A President must make the war decision wisely, and insure that the cause is right before using his last political option.
However, CONTROLLING IRAN AND DEMOCRATIZING THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE ONLY CHOICE IF WE ARE HELL-BENT ON DEPENDING ON THEM FOR OUR FUTURE ENERGY NEEDS.
Jimmy L. Cash, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret. jcash1@bresnan.net
349 Jib Lane Lakeside, Montana 59922
Good luck tomorrow and goodnight from CA. kp
My instincts, honed from working with Silicon Valley startups, has me 500,000 shares into this so far and I now have full trust in Huppe and Co. Love the people supporting him - they know what he has or they wouldn't be behind him. kp
Sure beats an IBOX doesn't it! The Bashers are going to have a tough time keeping up. Ha!
FOLO MOMO!
I'm convinced this group is trying very hard to do solid, positive, long lasting things with the truth behind them. Truth and transparency have a way of bringing clarity to all things and almost always lead to success whenever a company has a useful product or service.
There is always honest disagreement regarding the future of any company - that's okay - but this board has had an over abundance of bashers and hypers and this new web site should give all investors more faith in their instincts. Good luck! kp
Relevant email questions are being answered in the FAQ section of the web site. You must register to view the 11 answered so far. They appear to be updating constantly. Very enlightening. Everyone gets the information at the same time. Great way to do it.
Maybe your questions are not relevant or maybe they are too busy? kp
Defireman - I think we got a ton of great proof today from Mccy. I also think that your posts today were proof that God does indeed have a sense of humor.
"If they cannot even provide proof of the product, then what are they selling?"