SAYS: TPG GETS PAID, ABIGHAMMER GETS PAID !!!
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whoaaaaaaaaaaaa.... whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... whistle friend... please, i beg you, dont pull out of the company... please. i mean... since we finalized the merger with T-3.... our closing price on the stock only went from .0002 to .0001. so.. omgddddd... please, dont you guys pull out on us now. we need you !!!!!
things were sooooooooo much worse before you got here. wow. but, hey, thanks for the heads up call on the C/C tomorrow. of course by heads up i mean that todd will announce the celebrity pulled out for some B.S. reason, and blah blah blah, and oh, we need to reverse split, blah blah blah.
its amazing, todd was so readable it wasnt even funny. even if jorge was a good guy, todd somehow got into him, and now the inevitable.
but, ohhh, alas... i thank my lucky stars that he should stick things out. i hope you dont push him too hard for your money back, he probably spent the hundred and a half you have in it tipping his caddy on the golf course.
i said it long ago, since todd came into the picture, things started getting shaky around here. lets see what tomorrow brings.
i cant wait for gail to read this. she doesnt like b.s. too much.
thank you sir.
i said for some time i was not a basher, but a stock owner, and only want for the company to increase in s/p. and my refusal of the invitation while due to scheduling at this time, also shows i dont want to be frivolous with company funding. which, at this time is coming out of our pockets, of course.
heyyyyy..... thats a pretty nice gesture copperbull !!!!
i'm glad to see that dotson thinks so highly of my opinions, which have been so astutely pointed out to him over time. of course, for scheduling reasons at this juncture, i will have to respectfully decline until a later date, when i can steal some time away.
that being said, of course i would hate to have to have the company dilute X million shares more at my behest, since we have no other income at this time. who knows, by the time i free up my schedule a bit, production may have started on the site, and we may even produce some product!!!! hopefully, we will have someone to sell it to by then as well.
I grabbed 650,000 sahres today
Priz
LMAOFFFFFFFFF.....
i hate to waste a post on this, but i guess the obvious question would be: why?
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... yesssssssssssssssss.....
for you surfmore..... another X factor for the equation, which the naysayers never want to address.
guess what... income is income. european (easier) approval...
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i agree, jigar.... in fact i sent a tou post to the mods to protect gail. thats b.s. to attack a woman that way.
that said, i realize management has said time and again, no r/s..... however, since this todd character has been brought on board, theres been a lot of b.s. going on that no one can put their finger on. we were supposed to have a national p.r. about the signing of some superstar. we got nothing. no one still knows how we are going to pay for it. the shares are maxed out. maybe they can get dunkin donuts for the office out of whats left, thats about it.
then we have the new preferred stock scam... er... idea. obviously wont work when we are at no bid virtually here. who is going to buy preferred??? what are you getting out of the company that has nothing to offer? they tried to come across as transparent, but dropped the ball in the first quarter. same ol, same ole.
heh heh... sorry jabber. minor miscalc.
but, while you got me here... why would you suppose this thing cant get out of its own way today??? as i type, we are now down 10% from an earlier high...
all is lined up, in place, big promises, big ideas, symbol change... whats holding us back?????? it couldnt be no faith in the ceo, could it???? just wondering.
lol, yeh, rite.
thats twice as high as igtp price now, LOL
absolutely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
soon as we bust thru that half a penny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeh baby
nice bob !!!!!
we should probably hit half of that amount today, after yesterdays substance filled conference call !!!!
oh... uhhh... ooopss... down 10% at the moment.
well, we can always hope.
ahhhhhhhhh..... webtime. whats the old saying... 'what a tangled web we weave'..... starts to come into play. unfortunately i didnt catch jtf's response to your earlier post. however, i am fairly confident i can sense the content,and context of it. that being said, and like your posting here, i too believe some posters may have been led to believe different things from management than what was exactly true. but....... and this is a big but....... i also believe there are posters who lead other posters to believe those untruths so they and others may benefit. we all know there are bashers and pumpers on every board. thats an undeniable fact(or), which makes for all the more reason for doing your own d.d. i too, have read back hundreds, if not thousands of posts here, and they are quite revealing in nature of a persons situation over a period of time. people have more access to knowledge and detail than they perhaps normally would, little innuendoes here and there. look, all that is fine. we could point fingers, name call, etc, etc.
end of day, and i have said this time and time again.... true, false, or in between, we can take this whole scenario which unfolded over the past however long period of time apart in very simple terms. those being:
if no production, no revenue. if no revenue, bills paid thru stock dilution. no long term/permanent financing, more dilution. delays, real or concocted, no production. its a vicious chain and cycle which is destroying this company literally day by day. again, make no bones about it, i am a stock owner, and want the stock to increase in price. i would love to move on to bigger and better things. i have too much iron tied up in here as it is, and i am getting antsy to be in other issues.
mark dotson needs to cut the b.s., and get a definitive game plan, mapped out, spelled out, and passed on to us shareholders. and, promptly. as is clearly evident of late, there is much disdain, and dissent amongst shareholders, and we deserve answers. the people/employees of, and from milford in this company work hard every day. guess what, my investment here wasnt grabbed off the tree in my yard, nor found out in the street. i worked hard for it. i would like to see it grow. someday. soon.
ummm... gail honey... with huge respect to your charting abilities.... i kinda dont see it that way.
looks like two buys went off @0002, and all the rest were sells @.0001. my apologies if i am wrong.
as far as todd goes, take this advice, enjoy your family vacation, all you will get from todd (if u somehow connected) will be b.s. that you dont want to hear. we were supposed to have substantive info, p.r. or something today most definitely. instead, we are hanging by our thumbs out to dry. furthermore, you are a smart young gal... figure out how we pay the alleged supermodel, when we have no funds, and seemingly limited income????
enjoy your trip !!!
you are preaching to the choir (me) my boy. its pretty much what i been advocating all along. all the yaysaying buttkissers think i am a basher. i hold quite a bit of this pig, and of course i want it to escalate in price. but, without any type of forthcoming attitude, we may as well forget it. its a given dotson is a poor business man, and when something is said about him, boooom.. out of the woodwork comes a relative or associate to try to bolster his position.
i tell you webtime, you/we better hope wilf blum still dont have his hooks in here, if he does, we are done. i still say dan graves isnt as crazy as he is made out to be. its funny, theres all kinds of investor hub type boards out there... yahoo, goog, investment nation, couple others... many of the same posters are on there, and you hear the same b.s.
the biggest sham of late i am pissed about is the increase in shares. if a sharp eye didnt catch the sneaky good friday increase, who knows how long it would have been unnoticed.
we need to face simple indisputable facts..... no production=no revenue. no long term financing=further share dilution. no concentrate buyer=more stupidity. should i keep going? i think you get the message.
i need a tourniquet badly here.
wtf is with this thing? we have a billion dollar pipeline, in business 20 yrs. and no one sees the end of the tunnel. this is very sad. almost as sad as my holding right now. i would never believe even with r/s rumor/possibilities, toxic financing, whatever that this precipitous drop could happen. we really need a turnaround here. frggn thing is off a cliff.
i'm stayin long, screw it.
hey guys, just some crazy musing, pondering here...
last 5-6 closings of common (wm) 4.25, 3.33, 3.2, 2.26, 1.69, and well.. .16 as we all remember.
now, 1.7bb shares, plus/minus. obviously market cap, which means whatever it means... just something to go by here for my simple math dropped, 95% or so. at any rate... how do we know how many people/entities were holding at 4 dollars, or, perhaps even 6, 7, or 8 or more dollars??? i recall the proverbial offer of the 8 dollars. ok, didnt happen.
i guess where i am going.... is if the court approves a settlement, i realize the payoff chain, all things being equal. what number does it take to make everyone see a pay day, and how would commons be calculated... on what basis? i have pre seizure shares, and post seizure. all commons.
i realize preferreds have a face of a thousand, or whatever, etc. etc... so.. lets say a settlement of x dollars gets them whole, is the rest for commons? and if thats the case, what if it amounts to like ten cents for commons after all the preferreds are paid???
i dunno, i am sorry for the confusion/rambling, just trying to factor in some scenarios, so i can form an exit plan if need be. thanks for tolerance !!!!!!!!!!
i'd guess like walgreens, bj's, maybe even kohls, they carry some automotive stuff.
i mean walgreens has like everything.
sells 2-1 over buys. strange.
raw, what do you make of this?
steve wynn even??? i even gave him a crack. we'll move, dont worry.
how come no one else has reported this info from their brokers? mine has no knowledge at this juncture. wheres the news, the p.r., something?
ok, lol. theres the nail in this coffin.
the deal was "supposedly" stevie wondered last week. now we are still finalizing?
B.S. !!!!!! we have no money to hire a celeb, lets face reality. todd is f.o.s., and he, and everyone else knows it. they are stalling, trying to figure out a way to increase shares, and then dilute for more money.
you'll see no bid on this now. what a crock, unreal. i hope i can get out with half of my skin intact.
stevie wondered= signed, sealed, delivered.
oh my god bro !!!!
lol, that really too funny. in fact, i am LMAOFFFF!!!!
first off, dotson has said he wants to be the king of pinks. a big player in the pinks.
second, and the most hugely comical part is the divvies...
YOU NEED INCOME TO PAY DIVIDENDS !!!! WE HAVE NONE!!! NO PRODUCTION=NO INCOME !!!!
that said, go cprk
if he is still in the picture, which we cannot verify, other than by hearsay evidence, we are in deep doo doo. perhaps dgraves postulations have more creedence than some of the yaysayers here like to hear.
it is disheartening to see them run amok without any communication. but, with poor business people at the helm, what more can you expect?? long term financing isnt even a glimmer, without the start of production. this company can very easily go to double zeroes in no time if they dont get the ball rolling here somehow.
some kind of substantive p.r. like a buyer for concentrate, start of the mill, financing approaching, specific reasons for dilution would be helpful.
dont hold your breath though. this company has a stellar track record for poor communicae.
i've never seen this site before. quick look, seems to have been around a bit. just more b.s. to wade thru and think about for our plight.
Sunday, April 19, 2009
LEAKED! Bank Stress Test Reults !
The Turner Radio Network has obtained "stress test" results for the top 19 Banks in the USA.
The stress tests were conducted to determine how well, if at all, the top 19 banks in the USA could withstand further or future economic hardship.
When the tests were completed, regulators within the Treasury and inside the Federal Reserve began bickering with each other as to whether or not the test results should be made public. That bickering continues to this very day as evidenced by this "main stream media" report.
The Turner Radio Network has obtained the stress test results. They are very bad. The most salient points from the stress tests appear below.
1) Of the top nineteen (19) banks in the nation, sixteen (16) are already technically insolvent.
2) Of the 16 banks that are already technically insolvent, not even one can withstand any disruption of cash flow at all or any further deterioration in non-paying loans.
3) If any two of the 16 insolvent banks go under, they will totally wipe out all remaining FDIC insurance funding.
4) Of the top 19 banks in the nation, the top five (5) largest banks are under capitalized so dangerously, there is serious doubt about their ability to continue as ongoing businesses.
5) Five large U.S. banks have credit exposure related to their derivatives trading that exceeds their capital, with four in particular - JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, HSBC Bank America and Citibank - taking especially large risks.
6) Bank of America`s total credit exposure to derivatives was 179 percent of its risk-based capital; Citibank`s was 278 percent; JPMorgan Chase`s, 382 percent; and HSBC America`s, 550 percent. It gets even worse: Goldman Sachs began reporting as a commercial bank, revealing an alarming total credit exposure of 1,056 percent, or more than ten times its capital!
7) Not only are there serious questions about whether or not JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs,Citibank, Wells Fargo, Sun Trust Bank, HSBC Bank USA, can continue in business, more than 1,800 regional and smaller institutions are at risk of failure despite government bailouts!
The debt crisis is much greater than the government has reported. The FDIC`s "Problem List" of troubled banks includes 252 institutions with assets of $159 billion. 1,816 banks and thrifts are at risk of failure, with total assets of $4.67 trillion, compared to 1,568 institutions, with $2.32 trillion in total assets in prior quarter.
Put bluntly, the entire US Banking System is in complete and total collapse.
More details as they become available. . . . .
http://turnerradionetwork.blogspot.com/
thats a great theory to have, intel2. however, to make it an informative board cant be all about what a great guy dotson is, or how pretty all the ore stacked up is, or what a great town milford is, or how the short buses were so nice on the grand opening... yadda yadda, ad nauseum.
if all the yaysayers started posting some meat, like, wheres the long term financing... how they gonna do stock buyback... who's buying the concentrate... what about the rail spur... when the hell is production gonna start.... why more specifically is there such dilution..... is there any chance of a R/S....... then, sure, it will be a better, more informed board. until then, perhaps as i have illustrated time and again, some of these caveats (bashes, unpaid) should be aired, and addressed.
dude... i am LMFAOFFFFFFFF !!!!
i thought you meant she was telling diamond-guru off at first!!!!!! thats too funny. however, if the story is true, how frggn unbelievable is that b.s. ?????? jpig stoops to new lows, oh well.
little help here if possible please... am i correct in order of payoff.... 1. wahuq 2. wampq 3. wamkq 4. wamuq ?
and, if so, why, with regard to payoff proportion are the first three so thinly traded? particularly the hq's?? if it is as simple as the amount of shares available, ok, i understand immediately. otherwise, any thoughts? TIA !!!!!!!!
i just state things which are true, and/or inevitable intel2. all the green grass guys on here need to step back and start looking at some past postings. cprk was suppose to have a soft start 8 frggn months ago, for god sake. check anyones past postings, fff, rdg, anyone, they all concured it was going to happen. even those that physically visited the mine said, oh, yeh, its forthcoming momentarily. you know what? all we get is unverifiable bullshtttt from management about why, and why not. now, the only verifiable info we have, is that the stock is major league diluted. and to add insult to injury, we didnt even get the info from them... one of our astute posters indicated it. they snuck it thru on a non trading day, good friday.
i tell you this, maybe d graves isnt all that crazy as you guys say. and, i am very disappointed to see mntnfishing, or whatever his handle is leaving. that guy had some good posts, and i read, and re-read every one of them. i'll say it again, people need to start looking backward as to what has happened over the past on this stock, because it is highly reflective of why we are not moving forward.
i am also suspect of the security guard that came out of no where with massive amounts of intelligence. normally security guards are about as high paid as guys shoveling horse stalls out. and as knowledgeable. i wonder if hes a dotson relative? as i said, no one knows who anyone is around here. its quite anonymous.
sorry bro. thats a lot of iron to lose in a p.o.s. that was almost destined to doom from the start. i think even the most thorough d.d. however would not have reflected that.
i'm sure you have better things you would rather have dropped that iron into. better days are coming, but, not here.
wrinks, that is a pretty substantial move from where we are at this juncture. that said however, if we get an equally substantial p.r., like one naming names of parties in contract, or perhaps a symbol change, we will easily eclipse your inference.
it seems rather odd that you should make a couple of posts with allusions to the success of gold as a commodity right now vs. inflation, but more specifically on this hglc board. i mean, is this a last ditch attempt, a grasp at a straw, a final draw of breath to have hglc resurrect somehow in your mind?? everyone is entitled to their own views certainly enough, but you are wasting your time in those attempts.
THIS STOCK IS DEAD, FINITO, KAPUTSVILLE. of course, that is my view certainly enough.
M E M O R A N D U M – (DRAFT)
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009
TO: All Employees of Western Utah Copper Company
All Shareholders of Copper King Mining ( CPRK.PK)
FROM: Mark D. Dotson, President/CEO
subsection A: all the first buncha junk i wrote numbers 1 thru 5 still applies
B: 6: stock will be reverse split, because all the first buncha junk i wrote isnt gonna help anyways, unless production gets started somehow. i.e., even working for free wont help at this point.
absolutely on target, and excellent philosophising bizreader.
lets just hope "approve the plan, shake and make up" equals solvency for commons. other wise, they can all go screw themselves for all i care... LOL
i think this posting (by dgraves) should be made into a sticky, so all may take the time to analyze it, and do their own d.d., to further their future decisions along.
that being said, along the lines of one of my previous postings, if there is any truth to any of this lack of chain of ownership, MD isnt going to like the questions that will be put forth to him, i assure you that.
with all due respect, post the links. otherwise, its your b.s. against his b.s.
i plagerized this from another board, but quite pertinent to the goings on here, wouldnt (most) agree????
Also follows that waves of people trying to save us
from ourselves will scare investors into selling
so They can get thousands and thousands of cheaper
shares for themselves while telling all of us
how stupid we are to believe this is a real
company. Folks, when you see this activity
load up because they would not waste one minute
of their precious time trying to save us from scams
posting 24/7 for nothing but the good feeling of
helping their fellow man. Thats the real scam
cork, you are just the type of shareholder that needs to be skeptical. we all know how the kool aid works, that was evidenced in jonestown.
realize this, and stick to it... all is not necessarily as it seems, which you should read: people who say they are someone, are not necessarily that person. reagan said: trust, but verify. i say, trust no one. you do as much d.d. as you can, but end of day, look at facts. idle promises, no production increased spending and dilution. if this turns into a scam, people of milford, employees, and management wont feel one ounce of pain... guess who will?????
PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE... OPEN YOUR EYES !!!! SMELLING COPPER IN THE AIR IS NOT DOLLARS IN POCKET.
looks like to my trained eye that judge walrath is a lefty. does that bode well for us???? LOL , sorry, this is not a gold nugget scenario LOL!!!!!
marine, that is wonderful wishful thinking, and as a marine i am not surprised that you are trying to help out us fellow shareholders. however, greg needs to tone it down a little. hes blowin just a little to hard for people to take seriously. in fact, i would imagine an outsider looking in would see his vids and not be refreshed, but possibly repelled.
unfortunately, GD, or any federal agency that does one iota of background checking will give him a second look. but, i guess it cant hurt to try. i mean hell, obamas boys must have ten strikes against them, from geithner, to the new car cszar, on down. hey, u never know.
you know cork, i would have to respectfully disagree that jim should apologize in any form or manner.
you make some good points about skepticism, but need to follow thru a bit more. those of you that have read, and enjoyed my postings have probably come over time to realize that i am not a basher, but a fact finder, and skepticist at heart. i am a holder of stock, and of course would like to see it go up. but, we need to step back and start to examine things a bit more closely here. in fact, a lot more closely. we are getting to a time where the crap should be hitting the fan, i.e., production. but, guess what??? we are not there. we have problems... problems... problems.... all kinds, i may add.
first off, we have severe financing problems. this is clearly evidenced by our RAPID increase in share structure. its clear, crystal clear management is diluting the stock, by paying bills. no two ways about it. i read converse theory about how share increase could be beneficial, but not in this case. then, we have electrical problems. then, we have a problem with landholder(s) apparently not getting paid. that, in my eyes, considering we LEASE land is not a good thing. further along, which i have no evidence of, but makes you think, is are current vendors/contractors/equipment leases getting paid? i mean, who knows???? there are no financials other than knowing how many shares are out there to go by.
now on another line, we have dgraves spewing off about this, that or another thing. some points are rather interesting. i still remember when this thing went down with the alleged trespass, yadda yada.. and the guided tour thereafter. i mean, could it smell any fishier????
i wiil admit also, i do find troubling is how copper bullet after being 100% invisible for over 3 months, just couldnt stand himself any longer, and came to the company's defense, the second dgraves posted. now, be that as it may, just find it strange.
further along.... lots of talk and published print in newspapers tell of how good it is for the town, how happy employees are, etc... etc... while i dont doubt that for a minute, my main concern is for me as a shareholder. i could care less if some woman dump truck driver is making 25 bucks an hr. really. i am more concerned about production, sale of concentrate, etc. which, again, brings up another valid point being, we still have no buyer for the concentrate. in my eyes, that is the most ridiculous scenario... possible.
now, i read back hundreds and hudreds of posts, and i am still troubled immensely by our ownership structure. i.e., the cprk/wucc relationship. yes, i read some of the musings about wilf blum, and the shell, and this, that and the other thing. truthfully, it scares me a little. i think dotsons business acumen is very limited, and while he may be a good miner, he is running this company very poorly. it has not been made all that clear about whether or not wucc is owed stock or monies or whatever. then there was some talk of some financial notes due, or coming due, relative to the mill being functional by such and such a date. i cant help but think we obviously missed those.
so, until there is more transparency here, if i were other shareholders, i would indeed be more skeptical, more inquisitive, more doubting. dgraves may have an axe to grind, but it seems hes not alone here. there are a couple of other posters who come out of the woodwork from time to time whose postings should be digested a bit more closely.
i will close on this note...... many many posters on here claim to have visited the mine, talked to employees, have restricted shares... done this,done that... but, guess what, at the end of the day, we really have no clue what is fact, and what is fiction, do we?????
heres a fact that we do know.... no production, no income, no increase in share price. i just pray a R/S or, BK isnt in the cards before i can get solvent. this darn thing just doesnt smell right to me.
News Flash.. Notice 345% increase for the 100 tops miners..
So as an industry we will see significant increases again which eventually will lead the explorers that are exploring of course to higher levels, imo. That still could include HGLC........
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odd, the article came from south africa... hhhhmmmmm