SAYS: TPG GETS PAID, ABIGHAMMER GETS PAID !!!
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please, let it be known....
i was NOT financial advisor to arnold in this particular investment decision.
of course, that said, i probably wouldnt disagree with him, particularly based on the past 6 mos. of empty promises and lies. and now, more currently dilution by the company's management, which results in driving down the stock price.
hey MD... how about a SPECIFIC startup date, be it soft, or hard??? i mean, its only fair. we have our monies in here you know.
thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation copperbull.... errr... i mean mark, sorry.
james.... with all due respect here.
thats about 160 bags plus or minus. while i believe in the company, what info do you have to substantiate this, if any please??
good point kkgd.
something i have been advocating for a longgggggggg time here. its obvious the convicted felon, read: greg has been dumping shares. oh.. i know what they all will say... oh.. greg says he doesnt own any free trading shares. ok, perhaps true. how bout friends, cousins, aunts, uncles... other convicted felons he befriended over the years? its obvious what is holding/driving the price down here.
people need to read back at some of their posts, how foolish they must look right about now, about price predictions, how its going to shoot up like a rocket the second the symbol change implements, etc, etc. i mean gimme a break. me, i have nothing to look back at. i been advocating fleas on this dog for a while. no one can deny my closer to triple zeroes postings.
yup, here we are again, after tons and tons of news which all the chest thumpers illustrate on a daily basis.
between who's going to play greg, and what our next acquisition is going to be, this thing has turned into a sideshow. we know absolutely nothing about the LOI regarding the commercial. not how much it will cost us, nor projected revenue. the second thing we bought into, i mean, that got swept under the rug so far, i cant even remember the name of the damn thing. cyberwizards or something. how much did that cost us, how much are those projected revs????
now we got the spoofem website problem. i cant wait to hear the answers on that. small wonder why its malfunctioning... we got non paid craigs list trainees running it, LOL
then, we got the reference to the manta listing, which i illustrated in an earlier posting. what a joke. they may as well call one of the chest thumpers here for company info. to compare manta to dun and bradstreet is like referencing gregs business plan to att which has been puked out here so many times.
yeh, next week should be interesting. i just hope the sell off isnt too severe.
hey gail....
and, others that represent a voice of reason around here. if you check my post 12401 to lucyinthesky, it was about whistle friend saying there was to be a conference call. in that post i basically illustrated what kind of b.s. was gonna go down. never in my wildest dreams could i imagine what must have, and did transpire last nite. i too, got innumerable p.m.'s from whistle friend or whomever he was.
the person broke my balls incessantly about how i badmouth todd, and the company, yadda yadda. and, how things were going to be golden all of a sudden. i have no idea what the hell these guys are talking about as far as buying stock back from us to make us whole, but it stinks to high hell as far as i am concerned.
if you read back on the board, or some of my posts which perhaps didnt get deleted, i pointed out long ago, virtually from the very first day that todd came on board that things were stinking badly here. if anyone recalls, all these brand new posters with one day old birthdays came on beating each other to death, both singing the praises, and the faults of this todd character.
the long and short of it is, this is an obvious friggn dog with major flea infestation. there is no way no how that all this selling wasnt dilution. todd, and or his cronies trying to get out. the reason?? who the hell knows. my guess??? the kendra deal was a total scam, and/or blew up due to lack of financing, as i predicted.
if you look back at things here from todds time onboard, you will see we stood at trip 1's without movement, with heavy heavy selling, i.e., major dilution. this sucker buried the company. i dont know jorge, but my reading about him, and whatever minor d.d. i was able to do, seemed like he wanted to make things work. could todd have sucker punched him??? absolutely.
conference call or not monday... its gonna be a friggn blood bath here monday morning.
gail, your a big girl, seem to be a nice sincere person. dont get buried in this game with todd and whistle. they are full of you know what. you wanna do something, just hand it over to matt, let him do the deed. dont waste your time, you work hard, enjoy your family time.
we shall see what he is made of, my whistling friend..... we shall see, indeed. it will be put up, or shut up by todd.
i sure hope you didnt buy it based on waiting for good news. you may have a bit of a wait, lol.
i wish i knew where the hammer stood as far as his relationship with dimon. this damn thing is so friggn complicated. if the hammer hates dimon, success for wamu is close by, i think.
yes, heres some input. zero investors believe anything is going to happen, thereby the reason for zero share activity today. a real confidence builder, eh?
oh, as a follow up to that post, the underlying reason for it is to show about how much credibility, and diligence is necessary to get on MANTA.
heres how the MANTA (not dun&bradstreet) report is compiled:
1. call ligatt
2. hope someone answers
3. ok, greg answers
4. what are your revnues sir?? oh, dang, i dunno, if i say like 2mm is that a crime?
5. how many employees sir?? oh, dang again, i wish i knew you were gonna ask me that, i mean, how the hell i'm supposed to know how many work for me?? if i say 20 does that sound ok?
6. ever convicted of a felony sir?? dang mister, hell no !!!!
yep. a nice 10+ % down day today. nice. lotsa confidence in the ceo here. oh.... no... its not that, its because the shares are still all screwed up at the brokers.... oh.. yeh, ok.. LOL
lucy, you're right on target illustrating the parameters of presenting PR correctly.
however, dont get all worked up over nothing. the big PR bomb Todd is going to drop is probably his resignation, and retraction of the celebrity signing due to lack of funding. umm... unless jorge had enough of his bullshtttt and donald trump's his sorry ass.
he probably had some exploratory discussions about the possiblility of selling preferreds and was laughed out of the room. then someone gave him one of those V-8 knocks in his noggin and he realized there would be no funding to pay anyone for a celebrity endorsement.
as for one of the previous posters looking for oh-5's.... well, LOL, i guess we all need to dream once in the while.
MOU = Memorandum of Understanding.
i.e., charmin unfortunately.
go encs
excellent first posting businessclub. a perfect time to jump in here !!!
considering hglc is.... well... on its last leg here, maybe your insight(s) can propel us to levels unseen upward in recent times.
thanks so much !!!!!!!!!!!
hey, lol !!!
in answer to you and chenzo, business is business. besides, this is not investment grade stuff. thats for sure. as i said many times this ceo doesnt have the wherewithal to bring the company to the level he professes he will. poor articulation, poor presentation, no respect toward shareholders, and no one will cut him any credibiltiy based on his past (convicted felonious) tenure.
i think we will remain heavy green today on this huge volume. perhaps sentiment is starting to catch up to this finally. pretty huge amount of buys here. i still contend the pipeline speaks for itself.
yehhhhhh babeeeeeeeeyyyy !!! ready to pop, ready to rock and rolllll !!!! should explode any minute, here we go, yadda yadda....
actually more looking like "stop, drop, and roll" !!!! and we all know when that is said.
bman, you need to realize at this moment YET ONCE AGAIN, we are closer to triple zeroes than we are to a penny. so, with all the hoopla name and symbol change, massive acquistions, hirings, websites, stock spinoffs, people are showing a pretty high no confidence level. not good.
if there is a website problem, perhaps greg should try to attract some real talent to help run things, instead of relying on upaid interns, and ads from craigslist. hey, we all know you get what you pay for. hhhmmmm...... .045??? yeh, i'd say we've about got what we paid for. sad, very sad.
nice, down 18% @ the moment.
florida, i think at this juncture for all intents and purposes the bank is shot. by that i mean, yes, of course they need a buyout, or bair shuts them down. that being said, ok, now they are being courted by suitors, its not about what they want for the bank, its how much they gonna get.
wilbur ross in my eyes, is an astute, clever sonovabeech. but two things, he likes to buy on the cheap, and, this is a big AND..... he has made it rather public he is looking for a bank !!!!! so, obviously thats no secret to the other big players, so, who knows, we may get lucky, and see some serious pin action here.
lets roll!!!
jackson, there has to be a downside to the pq's/preferred that we are missing/not touching on here. you are implying or, basically saying 100% lock/foolproof. i cant help but think if they were that solid, they would be moving upward substantially moreso, and quicker than they have.
listen, i am way out of my league here talking preffs... but, logic tells me something is flawed. help me out here??
hhhhmmmmm.....
thus, the reason for my confusion, and disbelief which i posted earlier about.
this company has gone down the crapper, not up the ladder since our affiliation with this todd character. just look back and check our history.
ummm... errrrr... uhhhh... i am not too big on technical gobbledygook, but any ideas on this?? particularly the most currently dated part??? or, shall we ask todd? its from the sos office, i didnt paste the link, sorry.
Actions\Amendments
Action Type: Admin Status Change
Document Number: 20090336174-05 # of Pages: 1
File Date: 04/13/2009 Effective Date: 04/21/2009
ADMINSTRATIVE TERMINATION
Action Type: Annual List
Document Number: 20090336174-05 # of Pages: 1
File Date: 04/13/2009 Effective Date:
(No notes for this action)
Action Type: Amendment
Document Number: 20090168137-87 # of Pages: 4
File Date: 02/23/2009 Effective Date:
Previous Stock Value: Par Value Shares: 4,000,000,000 Value: $ 0.0001 Par Value Shares: 20,000,000 Value: $ 0.0001 No Par Value Shares: 0 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Total Authorized Capital: $ 402,000.00 New Stock Value: Par Value Shares: 4,900,000,000 Value: $ 0.0001 Par Value Shares: 20,000,000 Value: $ 0.0001 No Par Value Shares: 0 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Total Authorized Capital: $ 492,000.00
pretty tough to say that to a guy that bought it on monday, no??
hey ray, your a little disappointing in your posts...
this is the second time you are inferring that greg pumping spoofem is criminal !!!!! hhhmmm... well, maybe you're onto something. the (x) criminal is doing something criminal !!!! wow, what a novel thought !!!!
you need to have some faith in your ceo, rayman. i mean, just look at whats going on, symbol and name change, divvies, press releases, huge acquistions. what on earth is wrong with you that everyone else disagrees with????? whooops... oh wait a minute, it seems many people are agreeing with you. stock is down.... (on all these finer points), and hey, virtually no volume. well, i dunno, maybe others would read this as faith in the company and ceo.
on the brighter side, we have some charting showing us to 5+ bag here shortly !!!!!! lol, yeh, ok, right.
no kali,
unfortunately all we have is some clown on one end of the phone telling us we arent reverse splitting, we will get a p.r. someday regarding kendra, a website will be functional someday, i'm not diluting, yadda yadda, ad nauseum.
that, is what we have. read: nothing.
oh yeh babeeee..... another day in paradise.
igtp to lgtt... now no problems for anyone trading straight across the board.
lets see, how the big KABOOOOOOM is coming with the symbol change....
lets see, how the big KABOOOOOOM is coming with the divvvy announcement......
lets see, oh, now we have a potential SPOOFEM call scam thing going, that relates call volume to internet hits......
lets see, how the confidence level is in the stock....
ok, perfect 4 for 4. stock is down 16% at the moment. nice showing, LOL
its certainly a bit disconcerting, and confusing why, over the course of the week, let alone today we are not following preferreds even FRACTIONALLY as close.
i dont like it too much, i will tell you that.
the alleged .10 offer is looking rather positive now, i would say.
now why is it dropping?
gail honey....
todd is gonna need a bigger pack of rats than the few that are kissing his fibbing rear end to eat up all these 01's believe me.
thank you kindly maskone !!!!
while i do detect the very slightest tone of facetiousness in your posting, i think you, and others realize i am not a basher. by pointing out some of the more obvious goings-on here, intelligent people, well, much like yourself take a step back and really read, and realize what is happening to a point is way more than 50-50 b.s./truth.
b.s. is winning out here big time. face it, with all that happened today, the board literally died, along with the stock price. this thing should have moved 2 clicks minimum !!!
i agree mp1091.
dotson has to put out some p.r. to stop the freefall here, considering they cant get production started. hopefully the p.r. wont cost too many shares to put out.
beautiful.... nice......
ok, heres what i summed up from reading various summations of the conference call, and reading general posts today, and trading activity.
1. no r/s till mid 2010 = B.S.
2. pr "expected" next week, no specifics because i cry, etc. etc. = uh, yeh ok, whenever you feel like it is fine
3. website "should" be active = good luck
now, some better facts/postulations:
1. 40-1 or so sells vs. buys today = huge confidence in Todd
2. board virtually completely dead with all the new revelations, CC, and future p.r. and star signing = huge confidence in Todd
3. share price rock solid @ .0001 = huge confidence in Todd
need i say more?
redvette....... your credentials most certainly must precede you !!!! i will take your post under advisement about the board posters' credentials. hey, i may even have to look to you for some advice here, considering your lengthy tenure.
go cprk
jim, heres another very good take on what happened today. and, it can be looked at from a very simple vantage......... anyone owning, and buying the stock, unless they bought it with their eyes closed....but, even with the most minute amount of D.D., realizes/thinks/knows/suspects/ or at minimum is led to believe that production is starting imminently soon.
OBVIOUSLY, people selling now are showing ZERO faith in that minute amount of D.D.
i think copperbull better start a campaign of extending company invitations to see the mill. who knows, perhaps it would generate the converse of what happened today, i.e., some buying.
why on earth would commons not be responding at least "somewhat proportionally" ??????????? pq's were up nearly 50% at one point today. if there is a leak in the reorg news... wtf with the commons?????????????!!!!!!!!!
you dont suppose the fact that it closed above your prediction fifteen times.... errrr... uhhhh... i mean each and every EOD price had anything to do with the bashes, do you??
go gnta
oh, how lovely lucia. seems rather demonstrative of the faith in the anticipated conference call, and the party at the other end of it.
what a crock o crap.
jesitron, without getting into it your read my thoughts out of context. i do not hope for preferreds to be cancelled. was just a thought, that IF they could be cancelled or not. no harm no foul.
lawrence you make a some good points here, and i have thought of it that way often. but, vegas and others, or perhaps myself in a second here make points about x-ing out the preferreds.
now, i dont have the technical knowledge about this, but simply put forth.... can preferred classes of stock (our company's) be converted to commons? ok, yes or no?
if yes, lets put it into perspective. pick a pre seizure date, one day, one week, one month, whatever.... what were the value of commons that day? how many commons were there that day?? ok, thats x. what were the value of the various preferred classes that day? how many preferred shares were there that day??? ok, thats x. so now... if in fact those said preferreds were converted to commons in a "whole" manner, it would dilute the commons by x. if the preferreds were converted to commons in an "less than whole" manner, it would dilute commons by x.
now, i guess simply put, if it can be looked at this way we can place a value on what is owed to a degree.
so, i guess what i am alluding to is, my sincerest hope, since i hold only commons is they do not get canceled, but in a way to make everyone somewhat "whole", that yes, perhaps preferreds could be indeed canceled, if allowed.
sorry, just thoughts, right, wrong, good, or bad.
hey guys, heres a great idea.....
to those positive players, believers, shareholders, or wanna be shareholders a novel thought process should be employed here.
let all the bashers, and those that want to save souls here spew their crap about how bad the stock is, drive the price down, lets you acquire more, cheaply, for a bigger payoff.
this back and forth bullcrap is killing the board !!
jimmy, an excellent and pertinent question. and if you have been reading the posts and keeping up best you can, you will have read that the company, thru its representative copperbullet, publicly extended me a tour and visit to the facility.
jimmy, there were reasons for this, and you inadvertently touched on them, although in not quite in an eloquent manner inasmuch as calling the grand opening "a scam". that was a poor choice of term to use. a better supposition would have been to call it an investor shakedown !!!! in retrospect, they have apparently realized fault in having the grand opening at the time it did. and now sees unhappy shareholders voicing displeasure, disgust and dissent over manuevers they have implemented thus far. in essence, the powers that be, thru channels here, and elsewise reached out to me, since for some unknown reason they felt i was a prudent voice in shareholder concern for some of the wrongdoings thus far.
they obviously determined thru various methods that my concerns were indeed genuine, though perhaps a bit skewed against their current deeds. that said, i also publicy in this forum, and thru other venues communicated that i would not be able to accept their offer at this time. it has since been purported to me that they understood, and also purported to me they understand my concerns, but, how shall i put this.... asked me to take it easy on them, and that things were proceeding accordingly.
obviously i will take the inferred suggestions under advisement, and i will post my thoughts as i deem fit regarding the company's forthcoming inadequecies.
jimmy, if you have the financial wherewithal, i would stick with it. good luck to you.
go cprk !
now your talkin. people are sweating over nothing, so to speak, and, myself included. we need to buckle down, and see what i been advocating, and you yourself all along. that being the end result.
we'll get there. price will be up before the r/s, since like you say, whats the point? we will get out of this via a multitude of ways, be it different financing, positive product news, or a partner of sort.