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Yes that will be very interesting to find out. Zion gaining momentum! I'm very interested to see what Blackrock is up to. No reason just a gut feeling.
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As much as I would like to see a "BATTLE OF THE MARKET MAKERS" echo echo echo...... I don't think that's gonna happen, as those guys tend to work together - even when one has lagged behind and needs help (there's always someone in last place and the next time it could be any of the ones helping now) So I think we'll see every arrow in their quiver. But eventually their quiver get empty, and I think that's why we are seeing the after hours activity.
I do think MMs will use the units offering to best advantage (they not stupid as we would like to think). But I do sense that the INSTITUTIONAL BUYING was a surprise to them and is a fly in the ointment they weren't counting on imho.
At the end of next week, when the units offering is over, we will see the real supply/demand factor kck in. Bank of New york, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Vanguard, and rest of those buyers will be a headache for the MMs who are trying to cover, and then accumulate.
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Agreed. I will stagger them out with most at a very much higher price.
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A lot of times especially with after hours stuff going on - we can't see the whole picture. And they were just going wild in the last minutes of trading. Hold on for another few days my friend!
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This morning we saw that run up range I mentioned as it hit 2.08 and the ask was 2.09 and as I said it was NOT the beginning. That was just a heart bleep on the monitor. ........But get ready. It's coming.
A lot of the warrants will be exercised just below $4 which is around double - it is just nature.
Next week will be interesting.
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That's what I'm talking about! Those 20,000 shares lasted about 9 seconds on the bid lol. MMs grabed them and about 10,000 more before we could blink! Zion going up soon!!!
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Yes this could jump up to the $2.10 range in a heartbeat - and that wouldn't even be the beginning!
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Completely agree. I think the MMs would like to bring her down further........but CAN'T because of the institutional buying. They are stuck with the reality that in order to cover and/or accumulate they are going to just have to buy. Everything will probably happen all at once! The units will stop, more news, and days to cover run out. Genius!
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I have a few different trading accounts that I use, but the platform I use is E-TRADE PRO because I just like the layout and the way the tools are set up. Level 2 let's us see the depth of the bids and asks, and "time & sales" lets us see the numbers in detail including the "in between" numbers when the MMs buy or place a trade there. That really helps me figure out what the MMs are up to.
Often with rapid fire quick movement I can get in on the lowest prices with the MMs, but when things are moving slower, I have found that putting my target just above where I think they are shooting let's me get in while they grab all the lowest ones for themselves.
Of coarse we cannot see the stop-losses - we can only come to the conclusion that they are being triggered. A lot of the conclusions have to be calculated, but that can be accurate.
With Zion we are dealing with some very big institutional buyers and that is fun to watch and trade along side with.
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THERE IS RESPONDING TO NEW PROGRESS!! Merry Christmas!!
Exactly!!! Trade the stock - not the company.
I think the MMs would like to tank her down further, but our friends with Bank as their last names are scooping up all the shares quickly because they are one step ahead of the MMs on this one.
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This is true!!
"The MMs took advantage of the stop loss orders placed by traders.
It has nothing to do with the prospects of the company. It has everything to do with the way the market works."
What I do is try and stay one step ahead of the MMs and what they are about to pull. Trade "with" them - not against them.
Zion is going up when they announce their accomplishments one after another........
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I am so glad to see this - and yes I half way did expect something today. That is why I was getting in last week with even more BEFORE this news.
Longer extension means they are not messin around - this is serious!!!!!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
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I am relieved that I got some more today. Get ready for an exciting next month!!!!!!!!
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Sold out of another fairly flat position and added some more Zion this morning. Zion is extremely heavy in our portfolio now, but I don't have a problem with that although normally I would - we are all on an exciting adventure here. It is safe to say we are confident in this endeavor.
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So glad it did for you guys. I'm already in as far as I can be (and then some - lol - diversify??? ).
Happy Day of Giving Thanks. Our Lord deserves it. And ....MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
May they'll let it go down today in the final minutes as a Thanksgiving treat to those who bought the direct buy with the warrants today.
Soon we may be looking at a unique situation where the warrant program ends, the short position gets nervous and wants out, and the institutional buying gets aggressive.... .......all at the SAME TIME!!!!!!! Genius!!!
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THERE IS NEW AND EXCITING PROGRESS!!
I think what we see at 11:29 was indeed short covering. They would like to run it down, but if they try then the institution buyers gobble them up. Therefore covering seems to be minimal. That's because very few are selling! Anyone getting in today probably will be glad they did come next week imho. Especially if they got the warrants!
And yes the institution buyers are happy to keep it calm for as long as possible while they accumulate. The short position starting to cover here is a good sign, and soon the downward pressure will dissipate. I really mean it when I say MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
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We will find out the details in the right time for the big picture.
For those who already own I feel this is a "Be still and know" moment. Prepare you testimonies giving Jehovah God the glory! Pray for John Brown (founder of Zion), and Victor Carrillo (CEO of Zion). Remember we are blessing God's chosen people! For those who want to own I humbly feel this is a "Take up your positions" moment.
The institutional buyers are picking up anything that looks downward and at some point the short position will just throw in the towel and start covering. They want to do that BEFORE she starts climbing. Zion has told us (very clearly I think) they are working, they are dealing with the new challenges as a result of new progress, and they will tell us what has developed around the end of December.
The silence is progress, good news, and leading to a new level of achievement. I think we are getting closer and closer to that point. Next week will be great! Time is on our side!
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THERE IS NEW AND EXCITING PROGRESS!!
I am just some ihub poster here and I am no expert. But the picture I've painted with posts 6194, 6211, 6274, and 6171 I see coming to pass - this is risky enough - be safe. YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE IN MY PRAYERS.
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THERE IS RESPONDING TO NEW EXCITING GOOD NEWS ALREADY!!
You're right that would be risky bet because institutional buyers may want to be in before news hits. Staying one step ahead with them would be good I think. Also the warrants deal will get you some more shares. Just remember you have to wait longer to be able to sell but that's not problem for the long run. Just make sure you don't get left behind BEFORE they start being more and more aggressive with their buying and the short position starts getting more and more nervous driving it up.
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THERE IS RESPONDING TO NEW AND EXCITING PROGRESS!!
This week may be a good week to pick up some shares on the cheap because of Thanksgiving. Many Institutional traders and day traders take this entire week off, and that may provide a good chance. Trade/invest well.
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I am with you on this. I do appreciate the messages they have put out. I am a skeptical guy, and I have a discerning spirit. But with Zion I feel like they are concerned about me as a fellow Christian investor. Merry Christmas!!
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THERE IS ONLY RESPONSE TO NEW PROGRESS!!
Just like that.
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THERE IS NEW PROGRESS!!
Just like this.
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THERE ARE NO MORE DELAYS. ONLY NEW PROGRESS!!
I would think so too - except that there seems to be some support so that when it dips down a little, someone steps in and grabs 10k or 20k shares. I think this surprised many who were counting on it going down. We shall see. It does appear that the institutional buying is increasing. All good.
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Soon we all will find out all about the progress.
“None of My words will be postponed any more, but the word which I speak will be done,” Ezekiel 12:28 That is a very powerful statement for Zion founder John Brown to put out with confidence yesterday! I appreciate the message very much!!
Today we see again exactly what I was saying about the days to cover are vanishing and the institutional buyers are gently and quietly scooping up the shares with their buying. All GOOD stuff with ZION.
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Yes Brother!! I am seriously preparing my humble testimony about Zion blessing me and my family while we bless Israel.
THERE ARE NO MORE DELAYS. ONLY RESPONSES TO NEW PROGRESS!!!
All will be revealed at the right time.
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Institutional buying is increasing - even with scriptures........
THERE ARE NO MORE DELAYS. ONLY A RESPONSE TO NEW PROGRESS!!
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Yesterday I was sitting in my home office that I really like in my dream home, wearing my Zion hat, and trading (doing something I love to do), and listening to praise music, and worship songs, - it doesn't get any better than this........
Zion is holding steady here and could break to the upside any moment. And will.........exactly at the right time........
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All will be revealed at the right time.
“None of My words will be postponed any more, but the word which I speak will be done,” That is a very powerful statement to put out with confidence. I appreciate the message very much!!
Today we see exactly what I was saying yesterday about the days to cover are vanishing and the institutional buyers are gradually getting a little more aggressive with their buying. All GOOD stuff with ZION.
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Yes I see it exactly that way.
THERE ARE NO MORE DELAYS. ONLY RESPONDING TO NEW PROGRESS!
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The Bible verses tell us GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!! Very Merry Christmas!!
THERE ARE NO MORE DELAYS. ONLY RESPONDING TO NEW PROGRESS!!
PRAISE Jehovah God!
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Yes and they are keeping it calm while accumulating more and more. You are right at some point the short position will run all over each other. I think they did not expect the institutional buying from groups like Vanguard, and Bank of New York, etc., and the rest. And there are lots of new eyes on Zion - as well as previous buyers who wanted to wait until they saw more progress. I feel like there are a whole lot of groups with their fingers hovering over the buy button. They kinda just messed up the short position plan. Merry Christmas!
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Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Merry Christmas!
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Wow. That's awesome! So what musician do you have in the family? I have a grand piano sitting in our family room with the lid wide open. I have a wish list for (some music stuff) when Zion hits it BIG - as I'm sure everyone here does. I've found it is good to have some practical financial goals in front of you when investing or trading. It helps keep it real and in perspective, especially when it's for children. And helps with the decision making when making important financial decisions. That way you're not just dealing with numbers all the time, but rather numbers that mean something besides stocks.
I know there are a lot of people invested in Zion bigly and I think we will be blessed along with Israel. It's not just about Zion and Israel - it's about our families. The information we need to know will be revealed at exactly the right time. Get ready to have your shareholder value in Zion blessed in a big way. Merry Christmas!
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You and your family will be blessed imo. I think what we saw today was the Institutional buyers like Vanguard, and Bank of New York, etc. gently picking up any shares around $1.90 or so, and not letting the short position bring it down like they wanted to.
I have been day trading here with between 6 and 7k, but I like flipping with only around 5k here because it has to be quick, and the more shares there are to trade - the slower it can be, and I have to be able to get in and out fast, as many times as I can. But the majority of our shares are invested and stay put. Merry Christmas!
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As the days to cover slowly expire, and the possibility of some good news grows - the gentle buying may grow to more aggressive accumulation and those who are short may start to get more and more nervous, and start stepping over each other to get shares to cover their short positions. I don't think the big institutional buyers like Merrill Lynch and Vanguard and the others are quite finished buying yet. Like I said - it's a contest between the institutional buyers and the short positions - and right now I think the institutional buyers have the upper hand.
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Same here. Just make sure you don't get left behind, be sure and rejoin your family investment before it takes off.
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True! I think we may have hit bottom here from the way this is trading today. I like it. Zion seems strong here in this range.
Some are buying gently and accumulating shares. They are good. And they don't want to run up the price so they can get more shares at a lower price. On top of that, the short position can get spooked and start a bump up. I think that is what we saw this morning. At some point - it will just keep going up and up!!!!!!!!
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I agree with your assessment of how things will play out. I personally think Zion is doing a great job with the big picture. They are doing what is necessary to get the job done and I am not bothered at all by the share price dropping now - because I think they are going to announce the BIG FIND around the end of December. They are going to take very good care of the shareholders!
Until then, I have no idea if the price will go up or fall more. The way I trade is responding to what the share price does. To me it doesn't matter whether it goes up or down. Merry Christmas!!
INVEST safely.
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