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1st of all the saying, as it usually goes is...... "never argue with a stupid person, as they will drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. You, like soooo many others, who believe anything and everything they read, accepting such as gospel and then proceed to use the accumulated BS to argue with, patting themselves on the back along the way, for their supposed wit, when all they are actuality doing is spreading the BS thinner.
If you and all the others doing same, would bother to substantiate things, you would know that many have attributed these words or similar to Mark Twain. Problem is.......... HE NEVER SAID IT!.
nowcomestheentertainmentoftryingtoprovehedid
He's not being hard on himself at all. He just likes to play martyr, as though it's of some benefit. It's a dumb and redundant tactic in my opinion. He's also stated he would no longer post on this board anymore when someone very lightly questioned him once. But it's just bs because then he comes back and has lots of good useful knowledge to impart. But has to play that martyr game. Hey, to ea his own. His right to do so. Afaic, it does not add credibility. I've asked him some intelligent questions and done so politely and he just ignores......why?.........same reason as many others.......simply because my sentiments are not the same as his re: vplm. Terrific reason...
How witty of you to say... It's amazing how uninformed some are about the true nature of some things.
Vplm has always paid their recruits well...
Hahaha ah hahaha hahaha "today's technology"..........lolololol......but vplm's near 20 yr old alleged technology WILL work with today's state of legacy/cellular/wifi hohohohho ha ha ha hehehe. Omg, wait til you see the size of these coming monkey wrenches! For use by monster monkeys...
When an ignoramus refers to their self as a scholar, I get a chuckle. It reminds me of a functional illiterate or a working heroin addict... That's why I luv this board so much I cut the cord.
By the way, since I'm not one of those lower caste scholars, but decried, decreed and degreed, let me just remind that it's those so called scholars who right here on this board, way back when, announced and repeated, with so much fanfare, that the ALLEGED infringers would NEVER EVER allow themselves to take part in discovery...........because they would not want to divulge and expose their source codes. They said that they would settle 1st if it got to that point. Yup, THAT'S what was said here actually many times and in one of those, you know, oh so "knowing" ways. Those of you with search functionality should look that up and see for yourselves, esp since I know how easy and convenient selective forgetfulness can be at times.
So anyway, how many discoveries have indeed taken place at this point? 2? More? And guess what....? Didn't happen did it? Those who say you can't learn any useful facts reading posts, are wrong. So much can easily be extrapolated by paying good attention and not letting misinformation slide. When it comes to slides, vplm hosts the world's largest, bigger than any amusement park. And the twists and turns are unmatched.
Oh and by the way, when those bully scholars spun that tale, I did the research and found it wasn't true the way they said it, because the law affords protections to the owners of those source codes. Pretty sure I even left a link or a copy/paste of said law. So I knew ahead of time that discovery would happen. And guess what, none have settled in front of discovery, have they? They don't seem to give a rats petoot, do they? Oh, and as far as the alleged Amazon "settlement", that has all but proven to be a mirage and just another in a long line of vplm lies. Very similar lies as well, going way back. But those so called scholars will and have let that slide. Not important. Not relevant. Not material....
And that's what leads to a stock and a msg board being IN THE BEST POS EVER! (emphasis on POS) .
That shows how much you know.......or don't know.
If one were to check the postings over time, from way back, what would emerge is a great moving back of the goalposts in ultra slow motion so most never noticed. I did.
Oh, you must mean having 21k posts... and a hobby of hunting for pennystocks.
I know, I know.....its different for you. I get it.
"Sadly you and other investors have gotten so desperate that your big wish is to get ANY settlement or jury trial decision. It's gotten that bad that you all will take anything at this point and be satisfied. So much for those "billions and billions" of ongoing infringements huh?"
So true..........
That just means you don't understand what I mean by junk. As I've repeated enough times that you should know if you paid att, I've said all along that the patents are valid. I've also made it clear, even today, that it's not my fault that some don't have the discernment skills to be able to seperate patent validity (legally) from patent viability in terms of need, efficacy, value, etc. There IS a major difference whether you realize or not. But aside from that and more importantly, and as I've said over and over, the patents are valid and so that's not really the issue to be resolved in the infringement trials. In fact, due to estoppel, no old claims that have been shot down, will be able to be brought up again anyway, which is really the only tangible positive of any positive IPR outcomes for vplm. I owe that knowledge to the only person on this board who was ever able to show any real or legal benefit for vplm in getting the positive IPR decisions they got. It's estoppel and now I can't remember for certain who gets that credit but I'm thinking it was maybe gbc. Sorry if I got that wrong. But back to the the infringement trial consideration, it won't be validity, it will be simply proving infringement.
While I haven't said so before, being the fair balanced reasonable and objective person I am, I can see it's possible that 1 or more voip companies may indeed have stolen or copied and used some part of some patent that's up for trial soon or later and if that happens it's also possible for some new challenge to the validities could be brought forth to the court or maybe it could even result in a monetary award.........but I doubt it.
What I think will happen is that there simply is little to no infringement going on. Or, I'm thinking it's also possible to show that while the patents are fully valid, that they functionally cannot deliver the job they promised. That could be due to a number of reasons, such as now outdated or incompatible with today's state of legacy. Or for any number ofn other possible technical reasons, which would render a different type of invalidity. Something new and not brought up before.
All I know for sure is that if I was an infringer and knew it, I would not be sitting on my thumbs waiting to hauled into court to get hit with triple damages. Plus lose the ability to sell my product. Or be forced into a huge settlement amount. So I'm not buying that vplm will fare well.
Which obviously includes your post at the top of the list....
Vplm infringement cases are all doomed to mootness, but the end is not nigh. Woe are they.
And the reason it never happens is because the patents are junk. And the litigants know it. Doesn't mean the patents are not valid, they most certainly are. It's not my fault that ppl cannot ever seem to grasp the concept, which is factual, that once a patent application is approved it's then a valid patent and remains so for it's life unless some court action deems it to be no longer valid. And most importantly, getting patent approval does not include anything in the realm of value, efficacy, need or future compatability, etc. Many here seem to think it does. No. And just because challenges to validity, an oft used tactic, fail, does not add ANYTHING to the patent in any way shape or form, beyond the fact nothing was lost or gained. 1000 IPR positive outcomes is no more beneficial legally, than 1 or zero. But at the same time the patents may very well not be capable of accomplishing what the company has hyped them up to be, ESPECIALLY with their oft used hyperbolic claims that every single voip service provider and user on the planet, are infringing. And that there is "no way to circumvent" that so called fact. And/or that according to vplms figures, models and templates, the total potential value, ONLY in infringement damages, is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and that is not counting all the other revenue creating abilities such described patents would have. Long ago I calculated it to easily surpass a total long term value of over a trillion dollars to the owner. Such claims are as ridiculous as they sound but not because it wouldn't be true IF the patents were capable of what the company has claimed, in terms of being foundational and completely necessary to the operation of voip services, which isn't true. Many service providers operate without any part of vplm patents and successfully so. Obviously, to anyone with a lick of common sense would instantly know that not every provider in the world went out and stole vplm patents or accidently came up with the same software and coding. There are, for example, other RBR systems out there that were in use before vplm patents and some of them are open source. I have even posted some of them years ago here. As usual no one paid any attention or cared. The blind beliebers just accept whatever they're told as gospel. I'd love to hear someone explain how Hudnell, regardless of how many added supers and extra titles preceding him, could possibly know beyond any shadow of doubt that the patents can do all they've been cracked up to do? Did he test them? Does he possess the official results of the alleged worldwide nodal testing that BOTH digi and vplm claimed to have done? And if he does, are said results were conclusive and exhaustive? And if so, why has he not said so and/or presented them to the shareholders?
I can answer that. It's not because the patents are useless and valueless. They have proved that ever since they were created. Actually, I shouldn't say valueless. They were of great value to the engineers who created them and took some $18 million, according to lord Emu... And they had a relatively small value to digi when they sold them to vplm. They also have been the underlying reason, INDIRECTLY, mind you and not due to any demonstrated ability, for the STORY that vplm has been selling for all these years. And the story worked! Because it professes to be the key to worldwide internet communications that cannot survive without it. And it worked because the monetary promises to shareholders were not thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions or tens of millions or even hundreds of millions or even a few billion......but many many hundreds of billions of dollars all things considered. That was and is UNPRECEDENTED! WHAT OTHER STOCK, ESPECIALLY AN OTC PENNYSTOCK THAT HAS AVERAGED AROUND 2 CENTS FOR THE LAST CLOSE TO 20 YEARS? I'm sure the answer is none period. But all the promises and all the alleged super lawyers and platform upgrade and false promotions and promises along with all the rest above have been enough to do it's hook, line and sinker job to those who choose to believe or just don't know any better. But one lie after another. One unkempt promise after another. One unproven claim after another and one year after another and another and another and another, et al, has not fooled me.
1st of all, to answer my own question......
What is considered material for an 8-K?
The form's official title is "Form 8-K Current Report Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934." It is used to report material events affecting a company subject to SEC oversight. An event is material when it could affect a reasonable shareholder's investment decision.
I find that pretty darn clear in terms of an announcement of a deal being made with one of the largest companies in the world and a company that claims they are using their patented technology. I'll be damned and eat 2 or 3 of my hats if that's not enough to cause some shareholders to act. Simple. Non ambiguous imp.
Oh yeah, now I remember..... I was telling ppl here that the 10Q was due out approx the 15th and it came out on the 14th.
Also though the Amazon settlement announcement was on 5/1. You say 5/3. It was actually on 5/2.
Seems like that would be early enough to be incl in the 2nd quarter 10Q but I couldn't find any mention in fact I think it specifically said there were NO MATERIAL EVENTS. Hmmmmm... Maybe I need to brush up on what exactly constitutes a material event. The PR sure looked like a material event announcement. But then again it's well known to some of us the level of wordcraft and hyperbole vplm has always always used......why??.......lol, to sell more shares of course! Duh.
Oh and interesting but certainly no surprise that vplm, staying tight with their usual MO, has removed that PR, lololol. Not the 1st time that's for sure. 2 of the more infamous times, was when VPLM BLATANTLY LIED about not having anything to do with the sawyer letters. Somehow they got busted for that and that PR disappeared, replaced by a very LAME replacement PR where the fact was almost totally avoided. Typical vplm fare. Weasel your way thru or out. The 2nd onenI recall is when they published on their website the names of roughly 60 alleged infringers and then almost immediately that was taken down forever after. Gee, wonder why? Reminds me of the LONG AWAITED AND CALLED FOR infringement letters which vplm punked out on for a long time and shareholders were complaining quite a bit. Finally they announced it was done and some of the letters were published. I don't know why cuz they were embarrassing. They did not accuse anyone of infringement. They were what I like to call love letters. They said something to the effect that "we want to let you know of the possibility you may have infringed" or something close to that verbiage. They asked them to please take a look at it. To me, after all that had been said and done or not don't to that point, they sounded pathetic. Every company denied infringement and said they had no interest in vplms claims and basically told vplm to go pound salt, same as they've effectively been telling them ever since. The defendants have to defend themselves and fight back at vplm in order to not lose cases by default.
I want to know if they ditched filing a material event OR it was just ANOTHER of the many vplm HEADFAKES. EITHER WAY NOTICE HOW THEY ARE allowed to get away with it just like all the other filings, it seems.
Might be drinking the kool-aid or in your case, eating it. The alleged or non existent settlement was announced I believe about May 1st. The way the announcement read, I took it to mean a done deal that maybe needed some details ironed out. In any event, seems like there was enough time until the 10q came out to put something in that filing. However, if not, then perhaps you can tell me why it wasn't reported within 2 days (or 4?) on the required 8k? Even if only said to be a settlement in principle, would that not be a material event? And even if that doesn't work, legally, then what about the 45 days? That's looong gone and still no 8k. I've posted the 10q and 8k regulations here a couple times. Where or how to get around this? Are you saying it's not a material event until money changes hands? This shady, ambiguous, misleading manner of communication from voip al ose money has ALWys been their MO and their forte. It reeks of anti-fiduciary mode of operation. Not fooling me a bit. They have a long history, well documented, and posted usually by me, of blatantly misleading and outright lying to shareholders and potential shareholders in order to PUMP, PUMP, PUMP YOU UP!
Scoundrels I tell you, downright scoundrels and they keep on doing the same year after year because the beliebers keep swallowing your swill.
It's apparently just another of a long string of lies designed to play ya like a fiddle and strum ya like a banjo so you'll buy shares or more shares. Same kind of lies, some near verbatim, have been slewn about for many yrs by the owners of the big, digital/analog/laser/AI/bluetooth/voip/fiber optic/radio controlled, behemoth share printer, Personal insider ATM, phoney PR writer and rogue share selling machine. It's a sight to behold! It runs on solar, diesel, gasoline, ethanol, and wood shavings, all at the same time. It's vplms pride and joy and has been bought and paid for by you, and you and you, the lovely and generous shareholders. It's main focus are the TRUE LONGS. You know them, right?
The so called Amazon settlement was announced right here by BIG BETTY (see above) and subsequently verified by our ever so trustworthy Richard "inYA pockets" Inza, our go to vplm mouthpiece (IR) who won't answer emails or the phone unless you are "on the list" of known beliebers and undying supporters of lord vishnu Emu (ceo). It was posted here by a msg board goer who claims he got thru to him and had a conversation, that there was INDEED a Amazon settlement AND that we would be happy with it or it was "a good thing". Vplm has all sorts of code words and phrases......such as "offer on the table", lololol..... Those who know better take it with a grain of salt.
So anyhoo, the settlement announcement was made approx 5/1. That was plenty early enough to be reported as a tangible/significant (pardon me, I know neither of those is the right word but I can't think of the correct word at the moment, but you know what I mean) on the next quarterly filing or, if sooner, it's supposed to be reported within 2 days or 4 (I've seen both given when looking it up) on a form 4. But neither was filed, which is not only nothing new for this crew, but is their well established M.O.
The pro vplm crowd could care less about that punishable crime BECAUSE IT DECIEVES THE SHAREHOLDERS in attempt to hide the fact that the Emu and his wife Barbara as well as other BOD members, are selling out many many millions of shares at obscene profit margins as the shares, taken from us, we're obtained cheap as dirt or free not to mention the bogus "anti-dilution" scheme lord Emu had in place for years that gave him 40% of all shares sold.....FOR YEARS! Pretty sweet deal, eh? Oh, almost forgot....the settlement was supposed to be done and reported within 45 days of the announcement but that of course never happened either.
So it would at least appear for all intents and purposes there aint no stinking settlement. Oh and by the way, a bunch of other cases recently were dismissed with NOTHING for vplm shareholders.
I can't help it.... I gotta say this. This place breeds alot of hate (or many better put is it's used as their gathering place?) but in any event, due to that, I have something like 9 or 11 ignores. The problem is I have a couple fans or whatever their purpose is (?) who occasionally pm me to tell me someone said this or someone said that about me or about an thing they think I need to know about. They should stop wasting both our time as I don't care........but.........the one I just heard about is too insane to not make some kind of honorable mention. The setup is that for many years, around 10, my sole focus and underlying belief for all I say has CLEARLY been based on my belief that the patents are no good and that fact will eventually come out. But I have been so so so open and clear about that being the sole basis for all I've said. Everyone knows that or should. So the kicker is I'm told that some numbskull answered my question about what's a true long, with saying it's someone who needs to or should focus on the patents rather than everything else.... All I can say is amazing. (and stop with the pms already. If you have something worthwhile to say, why hide it?).
manomanischewitzwow
I had that very same thought creep into my head about 5 min ago....and then I snapped out of it just a quickly to what you correctly mentioned.......smokescreen is most definitely the word of the hour, day, week, month, year and now welcome to decade number
Everything you said/asked were the right questions to ask and also shows how easy it would be to connect the dots to nefariousland, rather than making undeserved excuses for what should be and isn't.
By the way, DNS.....I just realized that you may have been directing your post elsewhere from what it appeared to, when you answered my true long question. I recall you having a certain sentiment about vplm in the past and the post you just made could easily be mistaken for a 180°, or it also could be taken as the same as before, in terms of where you aimed it. So if I misinterpreted that, apologies, and if I had it right, not.
No, definition is someone who makes stuff up out of thin air that they cannot possibly substantiate since 1) it isn't true and 2) as I've reported numerous times going all the way back to the events, after I wound up underwater from buying so many shares as the price was rising and then it crashed..... I wised up and not only recouped all the losses but I kept going and made a handsome profit which I then used to have things to show for it and then, when I thought the time was right, I quit buying and vowed to never buy another share of vplm and luckily, I stuck to that self promise otherwise I'd have lost it all again. I've never said I did anything different than that so any charges otherwise are nothing more than lies or stupidity, one, the other, or both. It would be very easy to post proof but I have no need to prove those things. None whatsoever. Plus, just because someone posts data or info that shows them in the black doesn't mean they haven't divulged the rest of the story that is a whole different story. I simply explained what I did, same as I have numerous times because it's true and exposes the liars for what they are. By the way, the way, the reason I don't care at all who believes or not, is because I have a brain that knows how to reason, not a skull full of mush that tries to create bs foe their own self gratification. At least we know who they are...
Hear that sound? It's babs and her lesser half enjoying your donations.
So where's that definition of true longs I asked for? Whatsamatter, can't find it? Lol
Can you believe it? Grown adults allegedly educated or at least possesing a modicum of common sense, actually believe that big voip companies are dumb enough to leave easy hundreds of billions of dollars gold to just sit there and let their competitors grab it thus turning them into financial slaves forever more, plus ensure that they also will be taken to court and sued for huge damages, which is same as suicide.......and also willingly give up their own ability to keep selling voip services. That's right.......actual adults that might appear as normal, actually believe AND SUPPORT this while being totally blind that they are doing nothing more than handing over their cash donations to an insider ATM machine that isn't even DISGUISED as a legitjmate patent troll. Now THAT'S funny right there. It's called "The Dumbing Down of America).
No wonder there's so much turmoil out there. No wonder 100 million voted for a veritable clown. The boundaries of lala land have certainly been expanded alot!
I'm glad the sec doesn't give a rats ass about it, as maybe the pumpers can someday trick the price up to where it's worth it to sell my shares. Free shares anyway so I've never had to worry about it but still hate to see them wasted.
Where's my 50 cents? I know I know ain't never gonna happen.
Hahaha hahaha..... The insane, the less than sane, the intellectually challenged and just the simple narrowminded, who NEED a savior (ie, lord Emu) are now taken to judging the sane, realistic, objective, open minded and non married to this true PENNY stock insider ATM machine.
No wonder they don't know they been robbed. EXACTLY what ol lord Emu counted on when he devised this carny. I'm sooooooooo thankfully entertained and cable cut. It's really refreshing to sit back and watch the inmates and the patients act like they get the show. Please don't stop. I know vplm will be around for at least 6 to 7 more years so no worries there. You have the stage. Keep up the crazed work.
The smart ones are lord Emu and his support team.
Man, this place is funner than the 24 election promises to be.
"These are our expectations as Longs"
Speak for yourself... I'm long for longer than you and that's not my expectation. And I'm not the only long who is not currently pro vplm.
You don't even know what long means. There's long, which I'd be happy to define for you.... and then there's elites which is your apparent attitude. That's what eletists do.... "us" "we" "our"...... like they've got a frog in their pocket, lol.
Wait.... aren't you a "true" long? That's a THING too, no?
Long in the tooth......waaay long in the tooth.....that's what vplm beliebers will be after all I'd said and done. It's the nature of their game.
Someone splain to me why, if vplm is in its <gag me with a spoon> best position ever......and big stuff is right around the corner.......why would numerous insiders be selling off as fast as they can dump, at the price of dirt (actually lower than dirt)? Give it your best shot...
Too funny or sad depending on pov... that all these major voip service providers are making all these major deals which are development of the use of voip................ while lololol, nary a one of them has the slightest clue APPARENTLY... that they are without a doubt (according to lord Emu) infringing........OR.... they're so kewl they don't even give a shit that it's only a matter of time before they will have to PAY PAY PAY BIG TIME BIG TIME BIG TIME!
Man oh man..... boy are they ALL sooo dumb. How'd they ever get to be CEOs etc? They don't know and/or they don't care.....
P L U S..... hahaha, oh man, can't make this stuff up..... THEY ALL DECIDED IN UNISON TO BECOME THEIVES. Mind you, not just some, not just a few, not the majority........BUT EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THE, WORLDWIDE! You can bet your bippy on that. Lord Emu, and other vplm managers have categorically stated, without any doubt and they said that fact was insurmountable. I believe the word used at the time was "not circumventable".
But the best part without doubt......is those here with all the great pro side data and biz news info.........pay zero attention to above FACTS as if they don't exist or aren't logical or sensible. Boy are they likely to fall hard when they start seeing these cold hard facts begin manifesting in a more serious way than the relative junior monkey wrenches so far. I am a student of psychology and this is so classic in terms of ignoring blatant obstacles to what some have the need to believe in no matter what anyone says or any facts. There are so many life analogies... And those hard core believers who got married, are also the 1st to proclaim they can take it or leave it, ce Cera Cera, whatever will be will be, etc. Ok
Impressive find esp with it's currency of today. Whoa... Dat dun look too good Babs and your lesser half...... Doesn't look too good to shareholders perspective either except for the ones who inevitably will ignore as "background chatter".
But...........
I have previously asked you and Orca the same question about whether or not these sales were done under a 10b5-1 or not? My understanding is that if so, then the form 4 is not necessary. Maybe I don't have it right? I'd appreciate if you have any insight on that aspect. I really don't much care one way or the other in my final analysis, but still an important question that should be answered for the benefit of the rest of the peanut gallery.
whatwereclarabelleslastandonlywordsnocheating
Heard the win rate was near 80%. That's a fairly high number but what's an 80, a C+ or a B-?
Every lawyer that vplm has had and there have been many, have been called super lawyers...either by themselves, their peers or peeps on this board. All of them, going back to Smart and Biggar and all the rest. There's been an army but after all these yrs, the only benefactors have been the insiders.
If Hudnell's win rate is so high then why didn't you post said win rate?
The IPR decisions, as I've correctly described, were never wins per se, as nothing was gained. They were successful defenses of challenges. After the decisions, nothing was gained or lost. Everything was the same as it was before the IPRs and as it was the day ea patent was granted. That is an undeniable fact. It's not a bad thing but nothing was gained. The only way you can see them as wins... Is if you did not believe, as it seemed EVERYONE HERE DID AT THE TIME, that the USPTO was fully qualified and did one hell of a job procecuting the applications. So many times it has been said on this board that those uspto patent examiners were THE best and most knowledgeable patent ppl there were. Such a big deal was made of that here on this board. Maybe look THAT up and maybe answer it directly instead of steering around it, ignoring it. Such a big shmeal is made of the now 28 IPR favorable decisions, something as far as I know, no one has ever come close to having that......and yet 28 IPRs has never produced any favorable infringement decisions after all these many yrs. I mean one might think that with such a super lawyer and all the other super lawyers and 28 IPRs that would've equated to some real trial wins after all these years, maybe you see that as an unreasonable expectation. Oh, and that's not even to mention the super favorable judge in Waco that is super fair and quick and runs such a tight ship and does T put up with any baloney in his court. Yet, still nothing for vplm shareholders. Day after day week after week month after month year after year and now decade after decade, all we get is alot of insider selling off at unreal rates, an ever falling pps, now down in the penny range again, and the constant mantras of patience is a virtue and best position ever. And daily price manipulation. And lies about settlements (nothing new there. They been doing that for 10 yrs or so).
Saying everything and everybody is so great is pollyannish, considering no solid results and a bunch of dismissed cases with zero for shareholders. Oh, but you DID give almost honorable mention to the poor optics of the massive insider selloff. Let's see, how did you characterize that?..........oh yeah..... "a little unethical"...lololol... I didn't realize that being unethical was a little thing...
How about calling a spade, a spade. Emu and company were found guilty of deriliction of duty and unjust personal enrichment...i know, I know... that was really a good thing or just bs, right?
And I forgot to mention youth still don't understand what patent validity means...
You mention it as some great attribute but that's incorrect. All patents are valid. There's no such thing as an invalid patent. If it's invalid, it's not a patent. And there's no greater or lesser degree of validity. It's either valid or it's not a patent. A few of you don't seem to be able to get the concept. The day a patent is born jts valid and it's away valid unless and until something happens to invalidate it at which point it's no longer a patent. So I laugh when validity is brought up as somehow making the patent stronger. It's strength and validity are exactly the same as the moment of patenthood. Nothing more nothing less due to the great and unmatched knowledge of patents of the uspto.
You laughing at the possibility of scam shows you have no knowledge of the many otc pennystocks with respected lawyers and ceos, around for a long time, and with allegedly good patents or products, who have gone bk or busted by sec or just go on ripping shareholders to one degree or another for decades in some cases. Or that the Emu, with some of his past very questionable business behavior, could be capable of scaminess. That's not what a jury of his peers thought.
You mentioned enforcement of the patents. There has never been any enforcement since they were created. There may be nothing to enforce. Just a front. A shell game. A Bernie madoff special.
I find that overboard and uncalled for...
No thesis needed. Sure has that optic. Even inYA pockets, INZA, stated it looks bad. I gauran-dam-tee ya that they're still a few who will explain how it's a good thing! And we're in the best position ever. Curious if that's a stagnant thing that never changes for years and years, which negates and makes moot, lolol, or, if it actually means that ea and every time it is muttered (which is a very hi number), it denotes that we keep subsequently arriving at a better and better place ea time. It has to mean one or the other, no? And if it's the latter, considering how many times it's been repeated here, hell, we must have passed heaven yrs ago and now exist in virtual nirvana. Kewl... Soon we'll be at godhead! Hahaha
In your defense, since you don't seem to remember, lol, when you made the statement about pps not barely able to stay above 2 cents, you were not referring to that time, around 8 mos ago... You were referring to the year BEFORE, when it was true, that the price stayed below 2 for a long time. You clearly were not talking about the future, simply because you said "last year", so you were technically correct about the past, not the future.
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Wednesday, January 18, 2023 9:52:10 AM
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"Yeah famous last words. Same old cheap talk that we have hear for years now. Last year we heard predictions of .05 and .50 but neither happened and the share price couldn't hold above .02 for any period of time."
Thanks for making me aware or reminding me that these IPRs were based on prior art challenges. For some reason I thought they were for some sort of defects in the patent claims. What bothers me is, unless these challenges are purely attempts to throw crap against the wall hoping for something to stick and/or just delay tactics (as IPRs historically can take alot of time to resolve), then why is it, do you think, that none of these filings or replies from the court, ever seem to refer back to what used to be such a big topic of discussion here on this board during the times of prosecution of the patents, which is the guargantuan effort and time taken by those considered the most knowledgeable folks there was as to basic validity and prior art searches, the uspto? In fact, the way I seem to remember it, is that the company itself and it's lawyers, did their own prior art searches, hopefully exhaustive, and then the Uspto did their own supposed exhaustive search for prior art. Yet, look how common it is for these IPR challenges to occur AND how often 1 or more attributes wind up deemed invalid.
It's as if the challenges are not made against the patents themselves, but against the ONE - TWO PUNCH TAG TEAM OF THE USPTO AND THEIR RIGHT ARM, THE PTAB, THE PTAB HAVING BEEN SHOWN CLEARLY TO BE CORRUPT TO THE VERY CORE. . But I find it almost strange that they never harken back to the patent approval process that here on this board, at the time, such a big deal was made about how the uspto agents/examiners, were so infallible.
Of course, my takeaway and ultimate dot connects, are that it was ALL corrupt, from the uspto to the PTAB to vplm itself and that all these so called explanations of things some usually consider as legit, are really nothing more than a continuance of that rhetoric for whatever are the convenient reasons...........and in the end it'll all be unfortunately shown to be moot when regardless if there is any prior art found or not (apparently not), it'll be, in my opinion, bogus patents that simply cannot do what they purport to be capable of. I hope for some (not all) I'm wrong, and for my own sake, but the BIG REASON I have put forth so many times, even tho an indirect reason, will prove to be true. For what it's worth, and I know it's worth zero here, in general, when I reach such strongly held opinions or conclusions, no matter how off the wall or outlier they seem, usually turn out, in time, to be right, which is why I continue to trust them. I use a system of checks and balances to make the determinations. A true use of checks and balances equates to real objectivity.
Dung spawner just doing it's job is all.
I used to think and post that the pps would keep falling and falling but then I came to recognize that in order for the boss to keep the ATM open and operating, which benefits so many of the cabal members, the price cannot be allowed to fall too low and trigger a bust. So I began saying that most likely it would level off and hang around between 2 and 2.5 cents. It has been forced to or manipulated to fall ever so slightly below that for short periods of time but on avg, my opinion is still holding. When the spread gets to thin,. Maybe the MMs try to stimulate some buying and then the pps comes back up. It really seems to be totally controlled price.
How about answering my question if you're gonna post to me? You didn't answer the last question either...
What do you mean by: "before she starts losing"? You mean pps going to trip's?
Which would you rather have at this point.... Vplm shares or S&H greenstamps?
That's a tough one,
Some day in the future, the story will be broken that vplm was really an SEC disaster training course, using msg board as a "flight simulator".
Sorry, no refunds
Any more vplm martyrs out there? There's gonna be an upcoming need. Esp type AB1.
If you've already martyred, boosters soon to be available! Very few side effects...
Occasionally some sore muscles from jumping. Goes away quickly, almost as quickly as your money in vplm, but not as quick as babs selling shares.
I've explained many times how favorable outcomes for vplm in IPR cases, are not "wins" per se. And I've explained exactly why that is. Notice this language directly from the Emu. Notice how every angle of describing such outcomes is never once said to be a win, even tho there are numerous places where he could've used that word...
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VoIP-Pal Receives Favorable IPR Institution Decisions
VoIP-Pal Receives Favorable IPR Institution Decisions
August 01, 2023 09:39 ET
| Source: Voip-Pal.Com Inc.
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WACO, Texas, Aug. 01, 2023 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- VoIP-Pal.com Inc. (“VoIP-Pal”, “Company”) (OTCQB: VPLM) is pleased to announce the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) has terminated Samsung’s involvement in Inter Partes Reviews (IPRs) filed against U.S. Patent Nos. 8,630,234 and 10,880,721 and denied T-Mobile’s request for joinder to those IPRs. The PTAB has also denied institution of T-Mobile’s corresponding IPR petition. As a result of these events, all IPR petitions against the Company have now been terminated. In total, VoIP-Pal has endured a total of 28 IPR petitions dating back to 2016.
“We are very happy to be finished with all the IPR challenges to our patents,” said Emil Malak, CEO of VoIP-Pal. “It is a very significant accomplishment for us to have survived 28 IPR challenges over the past seven years without losing a single claim.
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All those opportunities to say "wins", but not used once. Lol
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