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no it is mindless robots like yourself who think we should worry about who believes what we do, how stupid can you get, I can't control who else will have my opinions, I am not responsible for their other thoughts, Pat Buchanan is a breath of fresh air, at least he is a conservative who can criticize the President
No less sleezy then old porkchop telling us if we elect Kerry we will be attacked by terrorists
How infantile and simple you are, oh now you play the guilt by association game, sorry but intelligent people are allowed to have thoughts independent of anyone else,
So according to your warped logic, because I now believe the war was a mistake after supporting it in the beginning, and a communist website believes it was a mistake, we are one in the same, yeah ok, nice try bozo
So when I find some Neo Nazi websites that support the war and other positions of yours, I guess you will ride with that crowd, come to think of it with your warped way of thinking you would have made a perfect nazi, you just love to roll whatever your government is doing without any independent thought
I have not known one pilot who would voluntarily give up their flying ability
Bush says ABSOLUTELY to the question by O'Reilly would you fly on the aircraft carrier and declare mission accomplished if you had it to do all over again
Bush says ABSOLUTELY to the question by O'Reilly would you fly on the aircraft carrier and declare mission accomplished if you had it to do all over again
Whenever this guy is off script he frequently makes a blunder
I would take sanctions over sending 1,000 troops to die and 20,000 iraqi deaths, yet zit will probably pull a statistic that a half million iraqi's died from the sanctions, wonder where he gets those numbers from
easy for zit to have other sons and daughters risk their lives to get somebody who was not an imminent threat to our country, nobody in zit's family is going there
One of your funniest posts
All pilots have to take a physical to keep their flying status, maybe he wasn't ordered to do it, but he is the only pilot I know that would do anything to jeopardize their flying ability, one has to wonder what made him so scared of taking a physical
Next you are going to repeat the Republican talking point that he got an honorable discharge, yeah like that means anything, they hand those things out like they are candy, even the Washington D.C. sniper got one after hitting an officer I believe, might have been another charge, but if you check the record I think he had 2 serious charges he was thrown into the brig for.
Do you have those documents in your hand, let's see them
funny but some points in that speech turned out to be true, like no wmd's, like an armed resistance, what you didn't understand is that Saddam obviously decided to pull back and not waste his troops on a ground war but save them for a guerilla war we are seeing now, and if you had read independent voices from inside iraq many of the insurgents are in fact from the professional class
by the way Kerry is not saying he is going to cut and run, so stop lying
Here are Zit's 3 responses that really made me look like a fool, wow big responses Zit, you should be on Bush's debate team, no wonder you stopped replying to me, you have nothing to say
Zittie post #1
spree, and your post is an obvious example of someone who couldn't recognize intelligence if it slapped you upside the head
Zittie post #2
spree
think we have a good chance of getting a piece of China
InterDigital FDD Protocol Stack Technology to Be Utilized by Infineon-Huawei WCDMA Mobile Phone Platform
KING OF PRUSSIA, Pa.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 18, 2003--InterDigital Communications Corporation (Nasdaq:IDCC - News), a leading architect, designer and provider of wireless technology and product platforms, today announced that its Frequency Division Duplex (FDD) protocol stack technology, a component of InterDigital's complete WCDMA solution, will be utilized by Infineon Technologies AG (Infineon) in solutions to be provided to Huawei Technologies (Huawei) under their recently announced partnership.
Under its joint development relationship with Infineon, begun in March 2001, InterDigital provides portions of Infineon's FDD protocol stack for wireless terminal devices. In accordance with that agreement, InterDigital would receive royalties on a per unit basis for baseband components sold by Infineon to Huawei that include the jointly developed FDD protocol stack.
"We congratulate Infineon and Huawei on their recent announcement," said Howard Goldberg, President and Chief Executive Officer. "We look forward to contributing to their success, as well as the overall success of 3G wireless in China. The use of our FDD protocol stack technology, jointly developed with Infineon, is evidence that we are delivering competitive solutions to the 3G wireless market."
Zittie post #3
as far as halliburton goes there are plenty of companies.......never allowed a chance to bid.......there are hundreds of companies that can do the job
name ONE!
fiscally irresponsible Reagan policies
presidents don't spend the money, NOT ONE PENNY.........congress spends it, so congress creates deficits..........are you married spree?.......if, for every dollar you earned, your wife spent $1.67, who's fault would it be regarding your growing family debt?
Clinton who enacted the deficit reduction plan......a tiebreaking vote from Gore.........raised taxes to help corral the deficit.........8 years of the greatest economic period of the 20th century, not to mention the markets.
clinton was lying before he took office with his campaign slogan, "it's the economy, stupid".....when clinton took office, the economy already had two quarters of economic growth under its belt......higher taxes NEVER cause economic growth.........and taking hundreds of billions of dollars out of military spending?....well we know the vulnerabilities that lead to.............take a look at a chart of the naz, the dow, and interest rates in clinton's first two years, and remember bill cluelessly telling us, "11 years, no 8 years, no 10 years"..........after decades of uncontrolled spending, it wasn't until the market saw that a new, fiscally responsible congress was coming to town, that spending was finally going to be under control, that the real bull took off.....when?....november '94........the charts and historical statistics don't lie
although clinton will keep promoting his legacy, history has never remembered presidents for "a good economy"...........let history remember, that clinton also resided over the biggest bloated bubble and crash in stock market history.........and if he was so economically smart, why didn't he (and bob rueben) warn the investing public before we lost up to 80% of our portfolio's value?
WOW ZITTIE THOSE ARE ALL GOTCHA MOMENTS, you are one of the most unobjective lying posters ever to post about politics on this board
ZITTIE A TRUE WAR HAWK WHO HAS NO FAMILY WHO SERVED IN IRAQ
To all I wouldn't trust what Zit says about anybody, if you actually read the board you will see that I am equally critical of the liberals on that board, especially some of the conspiracy theorists, his opinion that I made a complete fool out of myself is based on folly
if he wants he can repost the 3 messages where I made a fool out of myself, I'm sure we will find he is full of it.
he never responds to me because I present credible evidence to refute a lot of his allegations and he can't answer the tough questions
Orange, I'm not really here to argue that, I'm here to say that you can have an opinion and still present unbiased news or both sides of the news, journalists are taught ethics and professionalism, maybe David Gregory is a liberal, you would never know it from his coverage of the White House and yes I know he gave Bush a hard time with a follow up question at the Allawi news conference, but if you watch his reports they are straight down the middle or accurately representing what the Bush campaign wants out there about the President
and don't forget people it is the job of the press to go against the current administration, that is why during the Clinton years we saw no let up of attacks
Again my point was to show that General Electric makes engines for military planes, I was reacting to your first sarcastic comment, not the comment about the Joint Strike Fighter, ok yes I admit the team that GE was on for the JSF did not win the contract, but still proves my point that they build jet engines and are frequently up for bids to build newer models
Steven Colbert is hilarious, you are right, hey I don't see how you can see Allawi's speech any other way, the guy is a Bush lackey and former CIA henchman, don't forget he worked for Saddam under the Iraq secret service the Mukabbarat, you think he doesn't have blood on his hands
anyway I agree with you I think NBC is the fairest out of the big three that is why I watch them, my point is you can lean one way but still have the journalistic professionalism to play it as down the middle as possible
I listen to Howard Fineman who probably is liberal, yet the guy presents both sides, you don't hear anything partisan out of him
Have you listened to the criticism Kerry has received in the press, Matthews basically declared his candidacy dead, he should know better than that with all of his political experience, and look at the equal time Matthews gave the swift boat vets, he had John O'Neill on again the other night, and sure Matthews is a liberal who will slant left
ok quick example, the NY Times is one of the best papers in the country, so is the Wall Street Journal, one slants left the other slants right, however the Ny Post is clearly a partisan conservative paper with not much credibility, and there are partisan liberal papers out there, maybe new york newsday is close to that with more credible reporting than the post
My point is you can be professional but still favor a more liberal world view or a more conservative world view and still be a pretty respected paper, I have read many negative Kerry things in the Ny times
You're a funny guy, ok, now I know how it works on this board, it is kind of like teaching grade school kids, have to make things clearer, less nuance, less complicated, don't make people look for context, spell everything out, no thought needed
kind of like how our President does things
A fact is a fact, you asked the sarcastic question because you obviously thought it wasn't true, your little conservative games don't work with me
A fighter plane can fly without an engine, an f-16 can fly without an engine
Zit come off of it, the book has been discredited by many in the media, including Senator John Warner and other Republicans who served in the Navy
Yeah I know, people on other boats during a war are going to be paying attention to another boat sometimes 100 yards away and looking with binoculars to focus on John Kerry because they knew he was going to be running for President one day, and because they knew this and were paying attention to him, not the enemy, they decided to wait 40 years to tell their story, nobody talked about it then
in fact some of the Swift Boat Vets even campaigned for him in 1996, others told the press positive stories about him, funny how they changed eight years later
Also you seem to be missing the point, I don't care who won that contract, the point is General Electric makes and designs engines for various military planes, including the F-16
So I guess your sarcastic question was proven WRONG
I'm talking about the engines, funny but the smoke seems to be coming from you, let me ask you, can a plane fly without an engine
From fighters, helicopters and transports to the next generation of unmanned aircraft, GE's military engines provide the necessary power and reliability for any military application. GE's engines are proven in service and continue to operate in critical missions around the world.
check out their own website
http://www.geae.com/engines/military/
The B-1B is powered by 4 General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engines with afterburners, which deliver 30,000 pounds of thrust each. It is 146 feet long, 34 feet high, and has a 79-137 foot wingspan. It weighs about 190,000 pounds empty, and its maximum takeoff weight is 477,000 pounds. The Lancer can reach +900 mph, and has an intercontinental range unrefueled. The bomber's ceiling is +30,000 feet. The B-1B carries a crew of 4: aircraft commander, pilot, and an offensive and defensive systems officer. It is armed with up to 84 Mark 82 conventional 500-pound bombs, 30 CBU-87/89/97's, and can be reconfigured to carry a wide variety of nuclear weapons. A single bomber costs +$200 million
The Joint Strike Fighter is a short vertical takeoff and landing stealth fighter. It has been designed, but not actually produced. The design specifications have not yet been publicly released. Northrop Grumman is teamed with McDonnell Douglas and British Aerospace in the competition to build the next-generation Joint Strike Fighter for the United States and the UK. The McDonnell Douglas/Northrop Grumman/British Aerospace team has developed an affordable design to meet the needs of the U.S. Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and the Royal Navy well into the next century.
The team has selected the Lift + Lift/Cruise concept for the STOVL variant to be used by the Marine Corps and the Royal Navy. In this concept, a separate forward engine will provide lift, while the rear cruise engine will provide rear lift and conventional forward thrust. For development of the lift engine, the team is partnered with General Electric and Allison. The benefits of this propulsion system include minimizing the size of the inlet and main engine bay, maximizing the weapons bring-back potential, and simplifying the manufacture of the JSF.
The B-2 Spirit is powered by 4 General Electric F-118-Ge-100 engines. Each engine can provide 17,300 pounds of thrust. The B-2 is 69 feet long, 17 feet high, and 172 feet in wingspan. It can reach high subsonic speeds and its ceiling is 50,000 feet. A typical bomber weighs 336,500 pounds. The B-2 has an intercontinental range and can carry a weapons payload of nuclear or conventional munitions. The bomber can carry 40,000 pounds and a crew of 2, with provisions for a third crew member. The cost of a single bomber is $2 billion dollars
The F-117A is a single-seat low-observable strike fighter. It is powered by two non-afterburning General Electric F404-GE-F1D2 engines, each capable of delivering 10,800 pounds of thrust. The F-117A's maximum speed is Mach 1. The Nighthawk's combat range is 750 miles unrefueled with a 5,000 pound weapons payload. The stealth fighter can carry up to 5,500 pounds of munitions, including BLU-109 low-level or GBU10/GBU27 medium laser guided bombs. It also has provisions for 2 AIM-9-L air-to-air missiles
by the way I did add content, my post was not just about who owns the station
Hey I agree it is impossible not to have bias in the news, but I think most journalists try to be professional, but my point is when money is at stake, like when we are about to go to war, suddenly all of those democrats you talk about turn into war hawks, war suddenly becomes a movie, seems strange that these democrats turn into warriors, when you own something sure you can allow for latitude, but you still influence
Your older brother is no authority, certainly his estimate is not scientific, my point is even if what your brother says is true you don't stay on nbc if you turn into Al Franken or Rush Limbaugh
by the way John Stewart is funny, and he makes fun of democrats and Kerry as well, sure he slants left, but comedians generally make fun of the party in power
Bush just made another blunder by telling O'Reilly he would fly onto the aircraft carrier again and declaring mission accomplished, when asked if he would do it again, he replies "Absolutely", this guy is funny
funny zit, yeah I would like to know how they are taking that poll, are the poll takers holding a gun to the head of the iraqi's before they answer, you can't an accurate poll out of that country right now, it was a stupid statement by Bush, among many when he is not reading from his standard script
Zitboy another funny lie by you regarding the myth of liberal bias
A Bush supporter owns CBS
General Electric owns NBC, the same company that builds planes for the military, no wonder they and the rest of the liberal media were so gung ho about war
Disney owns ABC, yeah so liberal that they refused to put out Fahrenheit 9/11
Don't you understand the media is all corporate owned, they are about making money, even CNN which of course slants left under Ted Turner was treating the war like it was a movie, but beneath all of that there are journalists who try their hardest to press whatever administration is in power, because the press is one of our last checks on power, without them the government could get away with pretty much anything they wanted
I didn't see this so called liberal media leave Clinton alone, all we heard about was Whitewater, Monica, etc. It is a lying tactic by right wing radio to say the liberal media, it is a myth, money motivates the owners of the newspapers and channels, within that framework you have journalists trying to do their best to press the current administration and put them through the ringer, of course news will be biased, it is impossible not to be, but as a newspaper or channel you try your best to present both sides
I mean anybody watching the media right now can see the treatment Kerry is getting, they practically gave up on him last week, now that he is evening in the polls they are starting to say maybe he has a chance, but if this was a liberal media he would have not gotten the treatment he has received
This so called liberal media played non stop swiftboat attacks for 2 weeks, who is kidding who here
Quote by Theodore Roosevelt, one of our best Presidents:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant about him than about any one else."
Theodore Roosevelt
Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918
(Final Year of World War 1)
Jim based on your experience, gut, what do you think, settlement or arbitration?
Corp Buyer are you ONCE? It has been alleged on Raging Bull that you are ONCE, hmmm, I wonder.
TFWG if you are referring to me, I don't know what you are talking about, don't remember referring to whiny shareholders, you should repost what you are talking about, so I can view it in full context, don't remember saying you should sell your stock and move on, but hey more lies about what I said, not surprised
What you think Microsoft is going to take them over
I don't know how much better the democrats are when they pay the homeless to vote
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