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Nice move I could only listen for a few minutes lots of good info. IMO this is emotional selling. They listened to how they said it and not what they said. Any who's Gonna b some sorry folks. Z said something about no quite ready to announce. That is all I needed to ihere. When they is ready we'll be a Rollin. Good for the buyers today x
Provisional patents and many are bummed? Folks they are breaking new ground and protecting what they are discovering without making it public (YET), and ah never mind. Proto IMO they are fine and I’m not talking about you, it will be interesting to watch this play out though, See who sells, see who doesn’t, see who sells then figures it out and gets back in.
See Ya
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Not up yet so I won’t have time until tonight but I’ve have to tell you after reading some of the posts wow there are some bummed out investors. As for explaining everything in black and white Proto nope I cannot do it, it is too hard to point the folks in a direction and for them to get it, but it looks like the call confirms what quite a few of us had figured out. Oh OK, here, let me just throw this out there. Originally Opsys had 2 foundries listed, IME and IMEC, so again did they say IMEC, you will notice that IMEC (as of about a year ago) is no longer listed on the Opsys web site as a foundry, what is up with that, where is Hochberg working? If he is working there, then um.
This roll out/chess game is way, way out of my league, we have Leonberger, Miller and this new guy Siraj advising the company, the bottom line is that none of them would be here if there was nothing to this. You heard Joe Miller, “we get a device we can drive the market”, and news of the first device just hit the street and is public (and there will be more to follow I’m sure), remember you do not drive from the back seat.
I didn’t hear the call so I cannot talk but I’m not going to let it bring me down, on about my merry way for the day.
For you gun lovers we played a new game at the cabin, silhouette targets n beer cans, holstered pistol, while walking the entire time (2 steps forward, 2 to the right, 4 to the left, 2 steps forward etc. lol crazy) double tap the target followed by one to the beer can, then back to the target, talk about impossible but it is fun, Verse try it the next time you are in the woods (because the range will have none of it).
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Very Nice, Got it, Well I think we called that one. No time to get into it, but Yup that answers that. So we stopped shipping Perk to the LSS for the holidays, sounds like we may have gotten a boob job for the holidays, LOL well I guess we’ll see if anyone else wants to get under the covers with us I hope they don’t get jealous.
G Night, rest easy my friends
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I didn’t have a chance to listen to the call if they post it by morning I’ll try to listen, with all the negativity lately I hate to take anyone’s word on anything. But are you telling me that they mentioned IMEC and are you telling me that they said the word Opsys? Yes or No Guys, If so that certainly splains something to me.
Honestly I didn’t expect any rock solid news of a deal just an update, I’ll have to listen to the “On Hold” thing to see what the context was.
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Agreed Proto 5 years working and look at how many institutions and experts are working on this and still haven’t figured this out. Remember there is only one place to get Perk, I’m still saying that we will get bought out once more info and data is published by Lightwave. I think that Fred Leonberger and Joe Miller have been around the block a few times and will advise the company of the proper angle to proceed and that Z is smart enough to listen to them. The guys in the lab are still working this and honestly will be improving working this for the next 10 or 20 years. Hopefully they have a target in mind draw a line in the sand of say a 40 Gig Mod, partner up with someone who has done this and hit the market with a device while the lab cats keep working and modifying the perk for new uses.
Some here are so quick to criticize them, look at who is listed below as working this for 5 years with virtually unlimited funding and it certainly sounds like Lightwave is ahead of them with an answer and while not perfect they have got it to work. Remember again that the only ones that have access to Perk is a limited number of researchers And anyone that does not have access to Perk has numerous reasons (in both academia and the business world) to try and stifle the Perkinamine platform. Some of the investors here will unwittingly play right into their hands.
Southampton University’s Zepler Institute last month hosted a conference to showcase the achievements of the UK Silicon Photonics (UKSP) R&D program, a five-year (2008-2013) project funded by the UK Government’s Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council.
The project, which was led by Prof Graham Reed, Head of the Zepler institute‘s Photonics, Systems, Circuits and Sensors Group, brought together the expertise of the universities of Southampton, St. Andrews, Surrey, Leeds, and Warwick as well as McMaster (Hamilton, Canada) and commercial partners, Qinetiq, initially, which was later replaced by PLX Technology, the industry project partner.
Prof. Lionel Kimerling (MIT, left) and Prof. Roel Baets (Ghent and IMEC).
Challenges and opportunities
There were also presentations by other experts from the wider silicon photonics community. Plenary speakers were Professor Lionel Kimerling (MIT) and Professor Roel Baets (Ghent and IMEC).
The UKSP consortium was represented by Southampton’s Reed, York’s Thomas Krauss, Leeds’ Rob Kelsall, Heriot-Watt’s Gerard Buller. Company input was provided by MIke Wale, Oclaro), and Mark Thompson of Silicon Quantum Photonics, Bristol.
Kimerling’s keynote presentation, “Scaling Functionality with Silicon Photonics: Achievement and Potential” considered the need for and methodology of achieving the necessary convergence between electronic and photonics technologies as well as be between hardware and software architectures.
US based semiconductor giants such as Intel and IBM have shown their commitment to the enormous potential of this technology with substantial investments. The sector has also seen large investment in the field by DARPA in the USA under its Electronic and Photonic Integrated Circuit (EPIC) initiative. Significant investment in the technology has also followed in Japan, Korea, and to a lesser extent in the European Union (especially at IMEC and LETI). The technology offers an opportunity to revolutionize a range of application areas by providing excellent performance at moderate cost.
Gluck
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Have a wonderful day and you are correct, I only lost $100k (actually $125k) 1000k that was a typo (shoot I'd have just said $1M). You see that is childish you knew exactly what I meant. And yes I did think that JM had to get out of the lead roll here and the only way to do it was change the only thing that we as shareholders can control, the BOD, (because yes I did meet with Smith but he did not agree) IMO to this day there was nothing wrong with that, JM did not fit the CEO roll, if we need to make another move that will happen but not until next summer, no need to work everyone up prematurely. But I certainly looks like they are finally doing what we all said had to happen so I'm not going continue down the criticism path. And yes I did request info one time and was told that would be fine but I'd have to sign and NDA and would not be able to buy any until what was revealed was no longer insider ish so I declined. They have set up an independent board if you want to meet with them. I don't not now anyhow, so let us try to give this constant,,,,, ah never mind.
Whatever Dude, Whatever.
Headin north where the buffalo roam, oh and you can smoke in the bar if you want, Lol
And dude I offered to meet with you a couple times so um. Hey What can I say I'm an honest guy that doesn't take shots from the sideline to score points, I lay it out there. Let us keep this on business level and not act like politicians, we are both here to make money, I for the world just can not figure out how complaining everyday is going to make one feel better, or further one towards the goals of helping both the company and ultimately oneself.
My goal is to split by 4:00 AM
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Well to that I would say that if you don’t understand where you came from then history may repeat itself. This latest cat may be from Academia, Alabama, Arizona, U of D or possibly even (again) the U of W, there will be many moneys/grants going forward that Perkinamine could undermine, that is what I’m saying. IMO Games have already been played and I’m certain that they will continue going forward, and Nobody knows the origin of “Folks that are just here to help us” Noooo they “don’t have a horse in the race” but are just “Here to help us, honest”, Uh not so much. Guys It has nothing to do with Ponz but he and many here think that it does. Ponz thinks that I post under other names, that boy is wacky, where was I, Oh You heard Lou Bintz, “We had all the money” What do you think that he meant by that statement? Z's, "SBR shop" the money is there and many will do anything to get it. Unlike Graphene, there will only one place you can get Perkinamine. Games will be played, YUP
Packing Now, Many decision to make, Is one case of ammo enough? Now Eeny, meeny, miny, moe grab a 9mm by the toe, check the chamber then let the action go, if it barks, Oh No,,,,,, Lol, later
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Joe you remind me of the kind of guy that sits at the bar every night and complains to the bartender about his job instead of not going to the bar twice a week and figuring out a way to get a new one. Just saying that your constant whining when things are SO positive is starting to get everyone in the bar complaining. It is a fact that misery loves company and it is contagious. So yes I do in fact lay out the facts/reasons on a regular basis to the investors here and honestly you are correct, half of the reason that I do it is for myself, geez after reading some of the complaining posts here it gets old and one starts to doubt and undermine 10 years of research and what I know as historical facts. So yes I’m the kind of guy that would come into the bar and buy the miserable F's a round of drinks and explain the opportunities at the new factory down the street, once they were hired and happy I wouldn’t have to buy another drink in that joint. If it sounds pompous then whatever, and no I do not have unlimited funds and I’m sorry if I come across that way, I guess I shouldn’t explain what I’ve done to TRY and help the company, but the facts are what the facts are, and in reality I was trying to help myself. I don't know Perhaps if I just started complaining it would help,,,, Uh not so much.
I’m a Glass half full kind of guy, obviously you are a glass half empty guy, it doesn’t make it wrong it is just the way it is. The good lord has blessed me with the gift of gab of breaking the complex down to a level that most can understand. Not bragging because honestly I’ve got more faults than the state of California but complaining about them won’t fix them, providing answers will.
We can go through life happy or sad, I’m a pet the dog, not yell at them kind of guy. Why in the world someone would remain in an investment that they hate is beyond me. OK let me turn this around on you why do you constantly have to tell yourself that you've made a mistake. This year I have 7 ½ pages of mostly positive posts, you’ve got 12 ½ of mostly negative posts. So for every time I said here are the reason to stay in you said Bad get out. Honestly now, who is helping who?
Wordy, yes my posts are wordy, sorry it is another of my faults, I'll cut it off here.
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Ya know perhaps folks that lack self confidence probably should not be invested in something so forward looking. For the first 7 years or so Lightwave was literally starved for cash and they pretty much lived a hand to mouth existence, IMO because the university of Washington (Through Larry Dalton) had convinced Uncle Sam not to fund Lightwave Logic but rather Lumera (Gig) . You heard Bintzs comment when he worked for Lumera “We had all the money”. But we got over that, Love them or hate them agree or disagree JM and Phil Smith arranged for funding through LPC. Funny for all the criticism of that funding I’ve never read a better option by the folks that don’t like that source. And Shorty after Phil Smith steps aside JM moves over and Z moves to the CEO slot where (because they now have money) he lays out a plan to move to a new lab to clean the perk and in June of 2012 (18 months ago) they accomplished the lab move and in December of 2012 they are at 98.9% pure. (I personally lost over $1000k trying to help them do that proly 5 to 7 years ago through accelapure) Shoot in August of 2012, 15 F’n months ago at the SHM Joe Miller said something to the effect that “Ya know if we proceed down the road that we are headed down we could have a nice little business here, however, if we can make devices we can control the market”. OK fast forward through all the bitching and moaning we had to listen to last week when they announce that they have a Silicon Organic Hybrid (SOH) Prototype Modulator Device the footprint of the modulation is as large as a grain of salt (1/20th the length of a typical inorganic-based silicon photonics modulator waveguide), that operates at about ¼ the voltage and Perkinamine is capable of operating at both 1310nm (Data Com) and 1550 nm (Tel Com) on a Single silicon substrate at 30-35 Gb/sec. OK now I’m far from being a genius but isn’t this what they told us that they were going to do? I also far from understand this but I’m remembering Fred Leonbergers Modulator drawing with the wave guide split in 2 then split one more time. Whatever guys, yes we want it all and we want it now, On a personal note in the past 18 months I’ve accomplished something in my life that I never thought that I’d be capable of doing but it doesn’t even come close to what they have done here. So I’d ask each of you that before you criticize them and want all the answers NOW look back at your goals that you put down in writing a year and a half ago and see which of them you accomplished, then look to see if there are any unanswered questions that an outsider could ask, because no they do not have all the answers, it is a work in progress. Oh and I forgot the big one, the only reason that we are here, Perkinamine does not break down at temperatures achieved in the CMOS process and last I heard did not require protection from oxygen. AND That is the reason I invested here going on 10 years now.
Whatever, I’m not sure that some here have the stomach for technology that can Leapfrog today’s established Billion Dollar markets and guys if you don’t think that we will see games, tricks, buddy, buddy, “I’m a friend”, trickery, sell 100k shares today buy some tomorrow, try to starve them here, make you try and doubt yourself so you yell at the team. Guys and look at the money being spent in Acadamia, that is only reason that Lightwave became public in the first place. Whatever, this is (was) probably one of the best most relevant forums for researching not only the technology but the people, employees and their backgrounds going, many here (as we are getting SO CLOSE) appear to be getting wobbly knees and think that if they vent publicly about there frustrations it will somehow change the speed at which this is quantum physics is proceeding and some frickin how help their investment, Well Like I said, perhaps this isn’t for you. Perhaps some well established business that will yield you an annual 5% growth would be better suited. So go ahead an encourage the nay sayers, try to answer every question that they raise, oh before you do that go to the published information and click on the data sheet link, Oops I think is says that you have to sign an NDA doesn’t it?
And yes this will end with a Buy Out.
Happy Thanksgiving, I’ve got to pack so I won’t be hanging on the board.
That's not what I was trying to say. He said if iwad below 5 volts it would be gret. It is 2.2. He said they prolly measured it at 1310 to make the numbers look better. They did not. He said that it may only operate at. It works at both wavelengths. He can play this game with us numbskulls for ever. I think we will find that this material is going to rewrite the rules. Hey listen to him. He doesn't have a dime invested or an axe to grind. No he is just trying to teach you guys about EO polymers. Oh fempto second EO polymers both 2nd and 3 rd order is what perk offers. Sure he likes done other low temperature polymers that require protection and are expensive. Last time I looked that is not why I invested. No time from my I phone. Later.
There will be games and there will be games, it is kind of funny to watch but just as they are releasing details that we have asked for years, operating voltage below 5 Volts, nm (Data and Telcom). Within Minutes,,, Every time info is released someone who “I don’t really follow it closely” posts with a high level of understanding of the science and a respect for “Dave and Terry” a self professed Linked in buddy of Greenlee plants the seeds of doubts. Whatever guys I’m not biting, do you guys not think that the press release that was put out yesterday was not supposed to be released before the investor conference? OK why was it held up? As for those sales yesterday, yeh right, um not so much. I don’t have time to format this properly but I glanced at our new found friends posts last night with an insider view in the technology that claims not hold an interest in either Gig or Lightwave but I guess just monitors the news because he doesn’t have anything to do. Oh thats right no he is very busy. It would be interesting to see what general vicinity IP addresses are located in. OK I have a question for you guys, how many of you spend all day monitoring a technology that you do not think holds promise you do not have any money invested in, or is not a competitor (grants, academia or commercial) and do not hold a grudge or cover for a mistake that you made.
Oh and I did read last night Tristan, that he said that he was NOT and investor in LWLG or Gig.
Oh and some think that we should just sell material just as the device is being proven out, investing alike a squirrel crossing the road, yes we will do Both, Miller laid out the device strategy, top of the pyramid, Drive the market.
Games, Games, Games
I know this is not formatted properly and I haven’t proofed it I only had 5 minutes this morning anyway here is something that I noticed from our friend’s latest posts. Oh speaking of posts, talk about corny posts lately.
Gotta Go, Here
The potential working device is promising but the PR does not really say anything about the device. 'Working' could mean that you have to apply 100V to see any modulation. The material will always be the limiting factor in making a great device. Disperse Red can be purchased from Sigma Aldrich. The r33 is very low but 'working' devices have been made with that. Next time a stronger PR needs to be released that at least mentions the operating voltage, loss (dB/cm) ,and r33 calculated from device performance. Operating frequency is optional. The device is probably still in a lab setup and not properly impedance matched so it wouldn't be fair to judge operating frequency based on that type of device. Releasing these type of numbers gives away no proprietary information at all. If these numbers were great (ex. <5V operation) you would see the stock price go through the roof.
Oops 2.2V Oh and the comment about “the PR does not really say anything about the device” Uh what about this in the last press release“ - - - > The device utilizes an existing modulator structure with one of Lightwave’s proprietary electro-optic polymer material systems as the enabling material layer.
Just because the device is small does not mean the picture has to be so small. When you zoom in on the pic of the device it looks like a test coupon with many structures that may not even be waveguides. If there are key features that need to be kept confidential a pic shouldn't be included at all. Inserting a pic that small makes me think that picture is not even the actual device but some random test coupon to get people excited.
It is an investors presentation.
3. Does this device operate at 1310 (Datacom) or 1550 (Telecom). r33 is higher at 1310 (closer to the absorption peak) so I would assume they are testing at that wavelength to make the results look better. It would be nice to know what wavelength they intend to market their device at. Market potential may be different for Datacom and Telecom.
Oops looks like it operates at 1550 he said “so I would assume they are testing at that wavelength to make the results look better”
Nope
Last PR talking about a Device, A Device an existing modulator Structure.
The device utilizes an existing modulator structure with one of Lightwave’s proprietary electro-optic polymer material systems as the enabling material layer.
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And how would a fempto second EO polymer change things
Lol. Lil worried? Still waiting for a response to my questions. X
Lol, message boards are hard to interpret ones intention, after meeting you at the SHM 2 years ago I find it hard to believe that you really think that my post was about electricity it was about how things perform differently that we expect. Good Luck Terry, as info I try to lay things down at a level here that I can understand, your brain functions at a level far and away above mine (that is for sure) and nary the twain shall meet. Oh and guys for the record Fred Jr. had the ability to function at both levels, he graduated number one in his class at the University of Delaware but could break down quantum physics to my level it is a shame but we have lost that link.
Hopefully this message board won’t “jump the shark” but we are getting close, that and the amount of advertising on here is getting ridiculous.
Quote of the day, “When you hire someone smarter than you it proves that you are smarter than them”.
Welp, I Gotta Run
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OK, I’m going to try and throw down a little food for thought to get some of you cats to think outside the box, I won’t be posting in response to your posts cause I’ve got a little/playing traveling to do, some of you will get it and some won’t, I cannot help that.
OK think A.C. electric (Your House) Vs. D.C. (Car or Batteries) electric.
Edison invented D.C. Electric, Telsa worked for Edison and Telson came up with A.C. Current. At the time Edison had wired homes with D.C. current (only good for about 1 mile radius) and could not be convinced that A.C. was better. Eventually Edison fired Telsa who went out and started his own company blah blah blah and ended up with Westinghouse as his partner who eventually ended up building the Niagara Falls power plant and that was the end of the story.
OK where am I going with this, if you try and apply the rules of D.C. to A.C. fogettabout it, even someone as smart as Edison couldn’t see the forest for the trees. Remember there will also be Games, Games and more Games don’t get sucked in.
IMO what we saw play out at some the Universities was just like that. I think that Arizona in particular was trying to test the Perk using old D.C. rules, I think that EM was trying to use the D.C. rules as well. I think that Z got fed up and using common sense said, I don’t care what the rules say, WE KNOW IT WORKS, Now make it work in a device and we will figure out why it works later. I also think that the large system supplier said the same thing so they brought it in-house. Well apparently both the LSS and this other mystery partner have got it to work. Comprende?
Now if you think that they are going to spend time running around to explain the science like a Professor doing a lecture, well um, Nope it isn’t going to happen. I mean think about it, explaining everything, Laying it out there in black and white would be like W.L. Gore and Dupont throwing down the secrets behind Gore-Tex, Teflon and Nylon before they made and sold a single Jacket, Pan or replaced silk Pantyhose with Nylon. Now think of everything invented using those products since the early days.
Why do you think they are keeping Indigo as a “Trade Secret”?
Now look at the players that they have attracted to Lil Ol Lightwave Logic (and we only know the public ones, how many are on the other side of the NDA’s?) they “get it”, 80% of the players here do not need to work a single day in life ever again, then why are they here? They see the future of “A.C.” and we cannot help that others do not get it because they are “D.C.” believers, and IMO if we think they are going to lay out exactly why and how everything works we are not thinking like a business we are thinking like academia competing for a grant. IMO In the end Perk will set the standards that all other EO polymers will be measured by, No more Lithium niobate rules, nope. Hey I could be wrong those that think I’m wrong should cut your losses move on and sell, quit making your life so miserable.
Whatever Guys
Happier than a frickin Bird
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George is apparently the only one that "got" my post. If bs had not gone personal then I wouldn't think that he has an ax to grind or another reason to raise doubts. Any who's yes one basically skilled on the art can always raise doubts in the minds of us amateurs. Gluck Hopefully he will take the time to answer every question I raised if so them maybe after a couple double checks to make sure bs ain't bs ing us then he will earn a lil cred. X
BS that is an investor presentation of course it is dumbed down, yes we've been watching Soluxra for a while. I'm not in the field but Can you give us an honest professional unbiased assessment of their chromophore, the Published numbers, Bandwidth, insertion loss, size, yield, R33, stability, solubility, silicon compatibility, solvent, voltage, weakness and strongpoints (as I understand it to date nothing out there has everything so there are always tradeoffs)and if any protection from the elements is required etc. and if $2k a graham is a reasonable number. Oh also the successful commercial devices that are available using that chromophore and their costs. If anyone can buy it, I mean anyone can have it, is that a wise thing especially for military uses? How about ITAR?
Oh and yes packaging here especially if it single mode (which I think it will be) as I understand it will be tricky.
Please be honest oh and like I asked last time what is your age so we have an idea of where you are coming from (and yes it matters), just a range, 25-30,30-35, 40-45, 45-50,50-55 etc. Oh and your background, are you from the business world, successful startups or academia?
Oh and what is your opinion on the latest Board of Directors member that replaced Ross,, Siraj Nour El-Ahmadi CEO of Menara?
Thanks Dude/Dudette
Notes from myself to myself, some like them, some hate them
So Lightwave Modulator is 1 mm squared, guys that is 1/32 x 1/32 of an inch, or in other words about the size of a grain of salt.
Honestly I would NOT expect to see Fred Leonberger at an investor oriented (get the name out Road Show), he may however someday choose to handle a Dog and Pony get the name out to the science community though, I think that in the end we may OWE him that. And if it is an under the ditch thing we proly owe Joe Milller the honor.
As for Joe Miller and Fred, I would hope that when the time is right (if they haven’t already) both Joe Miller and Fred Leonberger would call on a few CEO/CTO types for us. That EO polymer scientist told me long ago that they have the clout to call just about anyone in the business (or government) world.
LWLG material will replace Silicon as the material of choice; IMO compatibility with silicon and FemptoSecond response time is why.
It is still going to take a while for the learning curve to happen but IMO yes we are on our way and as the folks start to get what we (the nerds here) spent 10 years researching it will take off, I’m sure that it will frustrate us but we’ll get there.
We have always known that if they could get it to work in a device (the size of a grain of salt WITHOUT PROTECTION) we could potentially disrupt Telecommunications, Data Communications, and Turpin with Optical computing and of course the military, I didn’t see encryption or home land security but I guess that goes without saying.
Watching this from the days of 4 employees I’m having trouble getting to 12, I think there may be some new cats we don’t know about, proly for the better,,,,else some of us may check out there linkin in contacts.
The Organic vs. Non-linear Optical Polymer slide lays it out there as does the Gig- High price Mods and packaging also the fact that they are not an EO polymer development company. They have to hate that.
Oh and the slide about 10Gb/s is the typical pipe the cloud/data center, good info for the masses to grasp.
Oh and our favorite 180c CMOS survivability fact doesn’t hurt.
The Development efforts slide is nice, Plain and simple.
I expect to see a press release in short order on the Prototype Device results not sure what gives there but no doubt that we will see something.
The current approach using Multimode Fiber (Old Way) but I’m surprised not to see the world “Single Mode” on the LWLG solution slide.
Box to Box within the data center, roger that
How about that 10 years ago Fred Goetz Jr. used the price $500 bucks as his guestimate and it looks like it still holds true today.
So yes I agree that short of a major no brainer announcement, as the general public starts to get it, and we get as little as $10k to $100k additional pressure on this per day, once they suck up the shares from the folks who just cannot wait any longer, then we will move north.
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Prototype results - Less than 2.2 volts for 40 gig. Well if The one self proclaimed "expert" that posted here is correct we are off and running because the last time I looked 2.2 was less than 5 volts.
Lol lol lol. Yup. I want x back too. Lol. Not sure how what to make of this board lately. Oh on the linkin invite thanks but sometimes laying it out there isn't always good so don't take offense. We are fine I'm not worried I'm debating on grabbing a small boat load very very soon. It will be a balancing act to catch it At the very bottom. Alls well that ends well. x
Bottom Line (It took me an hour) I probably shouldn’t post this but to me these are the most important ones, Not a bad quarter, not at all.
In August 2013 in a combined effort of the Company’s chemists, the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a third party research group we successfully fabricated Silicon Organic Hybrid (SOH) slot waveguide modulators. The devices utilize an existing modulator structure with one of our proprietary electro-optic polymer material systems as the enabling material layer. In October 2013, we confirmed the functionality of the SOH slot waveguide modulators as operating prototype devices. These first-generation devices have achieved greater electro-optical activity and dramatically lower drive voltage than industry standard modulators based on inorganic materials.
We have recently begun a second-generation design of a unique telecommunications modulator incorporating one of our newly developed (took out the word Indigo) electro-optic polymer materials.
Datacomm/Telecomm Photonic Transceiver
All New
We, along with our partners at the University of Colorado, Boulder, propose to develop multichannel integrated nanophotonic transceivers (Mints) for application in data communications. The transceiver consists of a silicon photonic chip fabricated with nonlinear polymer infused modulators (SOH), multiplexers, demultiplexers, detectors and grating fiber couplers to an external light source. The CMOS-compatible optical modulators are key components for future silicon-based photonic transceivers. Our solution, the silicon-organic hybrid (SOH) platform has been proposed and is being prototyped. In the SOH approach, the optical signal is guided by a silicon waveguide while an organic cladding provides the electro-optic effect.
(Increasing expenses),,,,as the Company expands its prototype development efforts.
Same - We expect general and administrative expense to increase in future periods as we increase the level ADDED -> of corporate and administrative activity, including increases associated with our operation as a public company; - > and significantly increase expenditures related to the future production and sales of our products. < - - -
ADDED costs for - - -> electro-optic device prototype, development and outsourced testing expenses, laboratory,
I know it is never enough but like I’ve said before it is NOW moving along as many of us discussed years (and years) ago.
As Chum Lee would say, Hell ya that’s what I’m talking about.
There were many other small changes but that’s the meat of em.
Funny I’ve been watching the health care hearings and it took me back to my high school days of listening to the Watergate ish, kinda weird, I’m not a nerd but I’d sneak out of school early, run out the back door as fast as I could to the woods, walk home and listen to those hearing. This is how I’d summarize the web site roll out, like building a house without a general contractor, all of the trades would just show up at their convenience and do their thing in no particular order or without considering the effect on the other, the new homeowner has just moved in, carpet will be in next week and soon they will turn on the utilities. Oh except the roof hasn’t been installed yet, oh and the sewage isn’t hooked up, the good news though is that the electric kinda works.
Gnight
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Well it looks like the board has kind of deteriorated down to a level where some of the posts aren’t exactly relavent, or they are of such a level that I’m not capable of grasping, probably the latter. I guess that is what happens when one pushes the button checking the stock price every minute of the day (like Gomez in the Adams family reading the ticker tape) expecting news, well for whatever reason apparently the company does not have or chooses not to do press release on a daily business as apparently most would like to see. IMO we have a BOD and the Employees are far and away the top in their field, I’m leaving it up to them. Some complain when we move over a buck, some complain when we are under a buck. Honestly instead of buying new stuff I’m just kind of gathering in dribs and drabs the cheap shares. That is about all the wisdom that I can offer today. IMO the buyers that are out there are smart, God Bless Em, they are waiting for the sellers (fish) to come their way, it appears that we may have a large seller hitting the sell button routinely, like a crack head after his next fix, it is what it is, as always I say gather them up. That is what I’m doing, if it hits I’ll either be able to have more stuff or if it doesn’t I’ll have less toys to throw away.
Look at the players, those players will put this together, MOST DO NOT NEED MONEY and would not be here if this material wasn’t promising, PERIOD. As for any of us thinking that we know more about this than ANYONE at the company, uh I don’t think so Spanky(s). And before any of you wise acres reply when I say “most” and “anyone” apply the 80/20 rule (because of course there are always exceptions that you could nit pick). LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. Geez Intel has been playing/experimenting in this market for 10 years, you will notice what they say kinda sorta reflects what we have heard from the company. This is the big leagues guys expect there to be misleading statements by Fortune 500, Military, Academia, Etc.
Gluck, thanks for the cheap shares and less Junk.
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Or the 3rd. BUY. Half full/ half empty you decide oops gotta run.
I took a minute to look for the origin of the voltage comments that I’ve made and is what I found, at 13:21 on the SHM Z something to the effect that what they are shooting for is Reducing the dry voltage down from 3 1/2 volts down to ½ volt. You have to listen to how he says it, it rolls off his tongue as though they talk amongst themselves (and with partners) as this a done deal and a strong point, a fact,, if you would, I’d bet if you could see the white papers it is in there.
Oh and on the web site, again the voltage
Lightwave Advantage–A typical telecom modulator, built around lithium niobate has the ability to transmit at a data rate of 10 Gb/s and requires approximately 3 to 4 volts to operate the device. Modulators incorporating PerkinamineTM materials could have the potential to operate at 100 Gb/s and require less than 1 volt to operate.
Most legacy transceivers built around lithium niobate are limited to one single, multi-mode fiber operating at 10 Gb/s. Lightwave Logic’s advanced organic polymer transceiver is being designed to run multiple channels, each operating at data rates as high as 100 Gb/s with extremely low operating voltage.
Gotta run,
Yep we’z be bought out, notta doubt about it, as for the timing who knows, but it WILL happen.
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Read my post Joe and we did it, we had to change it and we did, Sorry for Smitty he realized it a lil late in the game, as for my Ego, sorry I'm just trying to splane it in plane English, and if it comes across that way then it is what it is.
Ya'll have a good day, I gotta run. And yes I bought some on Tuesday thank you and yes I did hammer it when I said I would, you see I'm a do what you say, say what you do kind of guy.
Lata Tata,
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Mysery loves company, not much else I can say, cept it won’t be my company, I won’t be joining you guys complaining without contributing useful knowledge, kind a like the guy at the bar complaining about a company without offering any useful suggestions to the company. You guys are getting personal, (Admiral, salaries, Delaware, camp ground) like a cheap political opponent.
Honestly we are moving along now as one would have expected us to a few years ago. At that time we all knew that we had a problem and what had to happen did happen. The fact of the matter is that it sapped everyone’s patience. If you go back to the Goetzs days this is just about the pace and the manner/fashion that we had discussed, not worried. If you put Leonbeger and this new cat together along with the fact that they’ve got the filament to work in the light bulb (device), the first class lab and personnel, and with Bintz’s been there done that let me work on all these projects in an orderly fashion and Z’s ability to walk and chew gum at the same time I think that this company will do just fine. Apparently there are many here that know better than Joe Miller and the board how this should work. At the shareholders meeting Z tells us what he is going to try and do and he trys to do it, but he isn’t going to do something that is wrong for us (when he pulls back the covers) he's a big boy and can handle the criticism, Oh I like the big money comment,,,,, Please. Anyway that is my ray of sunshine pumped up the @$$.
If we are correct and this polymer can control light, doesn’t require protection, is compatible with CMOS and silicon, cheap and the patents and trade secrets can protect it, Look Out. Furthermore if you don’t think games will be played by the best of the best you are naive. This will be interesting and I’ betting ol Fred L has the ability to put together something that will surprise us all.
Have a good day, I’m not going to sit here and whine, I just hope everyone is all in.
Oh and as for bashing Delaware if you saw Nitro's set up's you'd understand why he is so ProDelaware, I saw them from the Air, the Land and the Water, not bad joints, specially for a normal everyday beer drinking, hunting, fishing, arm wrestling (Lol) kind o Joe.
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10k?
Not a rumor I wrote it down, I think it was at the shareholders meeting it was 1/10th what they guy the other day said he would like to see, no sure what kind of Perk they are using in the Mod though. There are Many of those Ya know.
later, Gotta Run
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I going to say my peace and then I won’t post for a while because I’m getting frustrated with some here and I’m not invested here to get frustrated with other investors. Earlier this week I put up a post demonstrating that we the shareholders simply do not know enough about the science to contribute or criticize. So what do a few of us do, turn around and criticize the financing, putting up whatever they can to bash the company for what reason I haven’t a clue. OK to put it bluntly Please Post Your Solution. If you have a path to financing that you are willing to lend the company unsecured (or secured with shares) at a better rate call JM I’m sure the he’d be glad to entertain your proposals. In the past when the company needed money MANY of us would call and kick money in on an offering, in fact I was the first in on many and also the last to help them close. Geez oh man they have finally got the Goetzs material to work in a device what 2 weeks ago and everything (INCLUDING THE NEXT STEP) that they do requires an expenditure of cash remember that they spend about .5 million per year just on being public. They need to keep ahead of the curve when putting money in the bank, I’m not sure if they are EVEN tapping LPC, I’m not sure if they are inking an agreement with a company for use of the modulator, I’m not sure if they are negotiating with a fab facility, If they are who knows what the terms are, I’m not sure if they are just working the material, frankly I’m not sure of a lot of things, But I’m more positive about this company that I’ve ever been. Didn’t JM or Z say that LPC is in for 5 or 10 million at like $1.20 a share? You guys somehow think that they are going to force this higher so they can pay more? Nope that is our job, Market forces will prevail.
Oh someone asked me yesterday what I’m hearing and seeing around the edges here, I’m hearing very positive stuff but when they say OK we’ve got a device and are working on the performance I don’t harp on them every 5 frickin minutes. Come on now Man up and quit whining like a little kid on vacation yelling “Are we there yet?”
Oh and if you guys want to look at something that shows what level of um technology we are playing in look at the mystery surrounding one for the Opsis foundries, look at the testimony in the hearings, look at the boss of the victim (AND who he hangs with), Look at the deleted file. I feel for the Todd’s, but what I'm referring to is the evidence and testimony in the trial, the companies and the countries, some of you may have viewed it on 20/20 and didn’t get it. Don’t post it when you read it, it is just that some here think that Lightwave is working on a simple next widget, No there are many, Many, MANY uses. Those that think they should be posting data better look at, uh, Oh never mind. Oh and look at the timeline behind the events playing out there and the events that played out here in Newark. I’m NOT saying that this is in anyway related to Lightwave, I’m not saying who was involved, I’m not drawing any conclusions, I’m just not sure that some here “get it”. Yes and I’ll say it again, IMO we will be bought out and it will be long before significant revenue. Keep the Faith.
Good Luck guys I need a sabbatical from the negativity of those trying to drive blindly from the back seat while Jeff Gordon is in the Driver’s seat heading back to Dover after stopping by Dupont when Fasick headed up the Paint Division. Oh by the way for those in Belgium, Jeff Gordon is Nascar driver here in the States and Dupont is his sponsor, in his heyday Ross Fasick was the V.P. of Dupont Paint and Dover is a city in Delaware where a nascar track is located. Just something to think about.
I hope I have the stamina to stay away until the next announcement. Oh and while Buz and six are raising doubts I'll be scarfing up hopefully the last bit of the cheap shares, I promise you.
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I guess that you are right the material does not work in a device or they certainly would have pr'd a working prototype by now. Oh wait they just did, um, I tried to give them my advice perhaps you could point them in the right direction. Ya'll have a wonderful day.
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Well it is hard to say how they are doing. Honestly I haven’t a clue how long it takes to invent a polymer and create Electro Optic devices from it. While we were in the lab at the SHM I was trying to advise Andrew on just how to adjust the RPMs while doping and perhaps if he used a different solvent he could get the solubility numbers up. I asked if I could check the voltage on the equipment used to test but Eaton told me that I didn’t know what I was doing. Shoot I even tried to tell Babu what he was doing wrong under the hood but noooo they didn’t want me to help. While in the lab Bintz had everything set up to test, I volunteered to help by adjusting the voltages, lenses, angles, change the wavelength and swap out the laser but he gracefully declined my invitation to help. There is not much else we can do. Perhaps if some of you guys that have done this could step up and provide a little advice, I think that Fred Leonberger could use some advice on how to create and bring a modulator to market and Turpin I’M sure could use some guidance on the SLM. I think that we could probably teach Joe Miller a thing or two about fiber Optics and this new cat Siraj could use some guidance in layering optics. I guess that we could take turns helping out some of the partners.
Have a Good Day Guys, It has been 15 days since they announced a device, Perhaps we just need to complain more? There are plenty of steps between now and $100 bucks and I’m sure that some will complain the entire time, not me. I only try to complain when I can affect a change that I think we need, I don’t think that we should be changing anything what 2 weeks after a device and 3 weeks after Raj joined.
Hey it sounds like I did something though, LOL Prop is making money elsewhere (and complaining all the way to the bank, lol) and I destroyed the Yahoo board. Bad X, Oh No Good X.
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Pit, graphene has great promise and as it stands now they are trying to get the band gap to cooperate. Because graphene occurs naturally anyone can play with it so there is news everyday on it. It looks like a wonder material, they also say that it could replace silicon who knows.
Nobody knows for sure all that we can do is to look around and try to figure out what is going on and who the players might be.
It kind of adds up and points in that direction though. Not sure that at this point any of our stuff is heading to the Opsis's IME foundry in Singapore, So one of reasonable intelligence might look to IMEC they used be a partner with Opsis, for some reason they are no longer playing in the same sandbox.
Guys it is just a matter of time, I know that everyone is getting impatience but the workable prototype device was just announced a month ago, let us assume they have been tweaking it. The next logical step would be to license the technology for the modulator, hopefully the scale up on the lab side is probably documented, then find a partner. Those talks could take a while or they could go fast. IMO now that we know it works in a device now is a good time to start working those buck shares into the ol retirement account.
Everyone has to admit that since they finally got some coin in the bank and Z (I'm sure with the help of Joe Miller and the feedback loop) came onboard the plan that he laid out has been proceeding according to plan.
IMO Fred Leonbergers plan and along with the new cat will be next, then it will be adios amigo.
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Yes you are missing something, are you interested in purchasing a LARGE number of shares? Over the years I've meet, um, In a round about way I guess that I could probably reach out to a large percentage of the shares outstanding in very short period of time. Not bragging, Not complaining, it is what it is, been here so Fing long that is all, meet many at the SHM. Not trying to promote a sale or a buy not saying that now is good time to buy or sell, just saying that I might be able to point you in the right direction to the proper professionals that could.
AND not guys I'm not promoting a BuyOut, LOL
NO, Not Yet LOL, the price is FAR FAR TOO LOW (for now)
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I do however think that for perhaps the rights to a Single Second Order device, at this point in time, they might let that go for 3 Bucks a share or carry the one,,,,, $150 Million.
I'm not sure that you understand the Third Order Potential Device Potential. Light Switching Light, that is why all of these heavy hitters are here, Get it?
Gotta Run
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Weak we know what it is worth, I can tell you that the majority of the investors will not even entertain such an offer.
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Yup he was there no biggie, UCMT has sold almost all of their shares (we've spoken about this numerous times in the past). I knew they would but Mike is still holding his. IMO If it wasn’t for him the Goetzs, LWLG never would have made it, but I'm not here to carry his water, IMO it is what it is, water over the dam stuff.
Wow hey Gates you wanna see something interesting, send me an email to the x993231@yahoo.com address.
Guys I said that games will be played and from here forward this won’t be for the faint of heart, some are playing right into their hands. The sky is falling, the sky is falling,,,, until the next step plays out.
I’ll be back in the game buying shares in about a week, hopefully they’ll still be cheap.
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Nice move Prop, 400 Bucks or so, I hope that it was in a retirement account so you don’t have to start the Long Term Capital gains clock over or you could shoot youself in the foot because if we get taken out within a year it could push your income up substantially and with the new rates and there that NEW unearned income Medicare tax for those above $200k or 250k 3.8% (I think) married and a takeover it might push many that are not in that bracket today into it. No I’m not a tax guy just saying watch the Big Picture.
I know that you guys hate it when I say that we will be bought out but EVERYONE has their price and it will be up for a vote, And no I don’t know this for a fact but it is common sense if you think about it. Are we going to build a Billion Dollar Foundry, HECK NO but one of the guys that’s got one would sure like to control the competitor’s price and in oder to that would need the control of the “enabling material”.
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3 Bucks No, There is NO WAY that a majority would go for that, IMO we'll start at $5 or $10 depending on the data proly 3 different back and forth's, I'd say many would go for $10, $20 or $30, WHO THE HECK KNOWS but 3 dollars, NO WAY THEY COULD GET A MAJORITY
Gottta Run,
Consortium, hmmm