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Li would make a HUGE profit from his 405m lqmt shares compared to what he would make from Eontec.
And its all outside of China's strict monetary control.
Whats also impressive about Li is that he is turning LMT into a Global leader manufacture of amorphous alloys, he is adding MIM to Cold and Hot BMG molding, giving customers all the choices, he will gain many more contracts now that customers have multiple manufacturing methods all under one roof at Lake Forest.
And LMT still has the old Royalty based business model Via Engel and Materion over in Europe.
I cant wait until news of who or how many European companies have incorporated an Engel LM machine into their production line.
JM are you claiming to never have stated ....
Yep, Volume production and revenue will happen fast this year.
Nice to have our CEO use Eontec facilities, funds, knowhow and man power to test out these prototypes.
Maybe that was a condition of the sale for the 2 Eontec machines.
His keeping tight control on lqmt overheads and his invested money.
Yeah Li is an understated kind of guy, he lets his actions speak for themselves, us investors will have to get used to the changed tone coming from lqmt.
Before we had lots of words filled with hope, now we have few words but full of action.
I guess thats the change from a CEO who was trying to raise funds and keep the ship afloat,
to a CEO who has the money and China connections to make it a success.
Seeking Alpha has transcribed the CC, i dont think it was done for the last 'special' CC.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/4054297-liquidmetal-technologies-lqmt-ceo-lugee-li-q4-2016-results-earnings-call-transcript
Nothing of great interest in what Tony says, apart from the cost cutting.
Bruce;
I’m pleased to update our operational progress, we remain focused on accelerating adoption of our technology and scaling the business. To accelerate adoption we continue to work closely with strategic customers to prototype parts in automotive, medical and consumer markets. These parts demonstrate and refine our full production capabilities including molding, finishing and quality management. In addition new products are underway to pilot the use of lower cost alloys, lower cost molds and China based production. These new capabilities provide broader and more competitive solutions to meet challenging customer requirements.
To scale the business we are readying our new building a 41,000 square foot facility in nearby by Lake Forest California for Volume Production, we expect it to be operational in early third quarter. Our Lake Forest facility will support volume production of 3 distinct technologies,
First our flagship Cold crucible injection molding systems are in active use, these systems provide exceptional control over oxygen and other impurities that affect the performance of amorphous metal parts, parts are produced in high volumes with remarkable dimensional precision within microns, with a high strength and corrosive resistance that is unique to Bulk Metal Glass, we have extensively characterised the properties of our primary alloy LM105 which is produced to meet strict material chemistry specifications, our simplified production process and rigorous quality control make our cold crucible system attractive for the most demanding customers including medical device manufactures. During our last quarter we completed additional biocompatibility studies that demonstrate the promise of Liquidmetal technology for implantable’s including designs that exploit the exceptional wear resistance of our materials.
Second we are about to receive our First Two hot crucible die-cast machines leveraging technology developed by EON, these systems produce high quality Liquidmetal parts using low cost alloys and the machines can make parts that are upto 3 times larger than our cold crucible systems. They’re finding immediate interest in the many new applications that are enabled by this technology and have customer prototypes in China on identical machines. Today we offer customers China based volume die-cast production and we expect to offer U.S. based production within the 3rd quarter of this year. Our injection molding and die-cast systems are complementary addressing distinct market opportunities.
Finally we plan to add metal injection molding or MIM production to our manufacturing capabilities, MIM is a mature technology that is similar in some ways to liquidmetal. Metal parts are injection molded in a multi step process that is more difficult to control than Liquidmetal but with significantly lower material cost, in general a good MIM part is not a candidate for Liquidmetal and vice-versa. Customers seeking precision metal parts will be well served by our unique ability to guide them through the cost performance trade off addressed by each of our 3 production technologies. Members of our staff have deep MIM experience and expertise and have already found customer interest, we expect our Initial MIM cell to be operational by the 3rd and 4th quarter and will begin quoting China based MIM production shortly.
These efforts allow us to present customers with industry leading capabilities to address applications from low cost to very high performance in China, United States and Europe.
With that i’ll hand the call over to tony to provide the financial update.
Lugee Li;
Hello everyone, since coming on board as CEO of Liquidmetal i have seen great potential, it is not only the technology, it is the people, we have a very strong team. It is the brand, everyone knows
Liquidmetal.
i know what Liquidmetal needs to thrive, so i give it. From my experience with EON business success i know there are many opportunities for Liquidmetal.
I’m focusing on those most promising and the fastest opportunity and i’m now making some change.
First we can make progress very quickly by using the manufacturing capabilities that works so well in China, we are making part for many customer using amorphous die-cast machine and metal injection molding machine, i am adding this system to Liquidmetal.
Bruce will give an update.
Second i’m looking closely at Liquidmetal (cores/cause) structure to become profitable as soon as possible, i’m changing the business, i also changed the spending, Tony will provide the details latter.
It will take a lot of hard work and a little bit more patience but in time Liquidmetal will thrive.
Now i will let Bruce and Tony give you the detail and update.
Li said he knows how to make LiquidMetal profitable based on his experience from Eontec, Li wants to replicate the China production system in Lake Forest. Using Cold Crucible Injection Molding Machines of Engel, Hot crucible Die-cast machines of Eontec and MIM machines.
And that Customer prototypes have already been tested on Identical machines in China.
Li is keeping his word.
Li is going to turn LiquidMetal into a World Leader in Amorphous manufacturing.
They have already tested customer prototypes on Identical machines in China, so full production when Lake Forest is ready this Q3.
I believe its China based production to be used in America.
Li is going to make Lake Forrest a Volume production Facility based on the same manufacturing capabilities that work so well in China, by early Q3.
Adding Hot crucible die-cast and MIM manufacturing to Cold crucible injection molding.
Automotive-Medical-Consumer markets
New products to pilot the use of lower cost alloys/molds on china based production.
2 die-cast machines.
Customer prototypes already tested in China on identical machines,
offer U.S. based production in Q3.
Thanks Joshuaeyu for the information, Evopute has some big OEM customers.
Hoping to hear at the CC some news about transferred orders, new orders, additional machine orders, acquisition of potential competitors and Updates on the BMG supply chain build out happening in China.
Expected Profit Guidance for the next quarters would be a bonus.
The word ‘molded’ is used 382 times. Mainly describing how parts are interlocked together.
Those parts being partially Amorphous Series 7000 Aluminium, but thats another debate.
Its a small step to start using BMG as the material to interlock parts of a future iPhone with more demanding mechanical requirements. Especially if the BMG can also be used to isolate different antenna signals.
It would be more aesthetically pleasing to have Metal Joints on a Glass body than the Plastic Joints currently used in the iPhone 6 & 7.
Might at least need Liquidmetal to water proof bond the Interfacial back and front parts ??
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=129249264
fourth link.
No wonder its so hard to figure out what Apple has planned, "multiple prototype models"
Like some blogs have been saying, Maybe Apple will reveal the iPhone 8 for orders this year but delivered by next year. The first iPhone was revealed 6 months before it was available for sale.
Might need that long to save up for the expensive hardware.
Damn thats sweet, Drooling over here !
This September will be 3 years since first investing in lqmt, thats one heck of a Loong Night.
And i keep buying whenever i can lolz.
The profit potential in automotive is Huge, lots of different expensive parts in cars and bikes that can each be in hundreds or thousands of dollars, compared to nickel and dime BMG components inside Consumer Electronics.
I like this part of the article, shows how important Li is, he is literally mobilising China’s industries to fast track BMG supply, equipment and adoption. A good move by Steipp to put him in charge of lqmt’s future. A new manufacturing technology does need China’s industrial power to make it a success.
The second patent, Movable Joint Through Insert, reads like thermoplastic forming with patterning.
The fourth patent, Amorphous Alloy Bonding, sounds like waterproofing.
“Interfacial Layer”
interfacial |?nt?'fe??(?)l|
adjective
1 included between two faces of a crystal or other solid.
2 relating to or forming a common boundary between two portions of matter or space.
Crystal? Useful for bonding Sapphire Screen to a Metal body. As 1 example.
I’m inclined towards the usual ’s’ model leap year updates,
continuation of the ‘cheap’ se model,
and a new Pro or Edition model.
Apple is big on using the ‘pro’ tag, macbook pro, iPad pro, mac pro.
Or maybe they will use the ‘edition’ tag that they used on the White ceramic watch.
So my guess is two 7s, 1 low cost ‘se’ and 1 new flagship pro/edition iPhone.
If there is a pro iPhone, it must use some sort of internal or external BMG frame to support all that glass. Or maybe the glass is BMG.
If the BMG is exposed, frame or case back, then just maybe Apple will use the ‘Liquidmetal’ trademark to further promote its superiority and justify its price. Maybe.
But nothing will be revealed at the CC.
Its just more fake news that Drumpf uses to divert attention from the russian spies connection.
Whens Engel going to throw that curve ball. Boom.
Powder MIM has several more manufacturing steps than LiquidMetal Injection Molding.
Less machines are needed for lqmt IM.
re Gamesc post
Correction, Professor Li does indeed think that, from Li's own words.
Captain Steipp who kept the ship afloat until it was in safe harbour does deserves the award.
For the record, it was the Kangs who drove the car into the ditch, taking with them those early investors who bet the entire farm on a new and unproven technology.
How else do you think Mr. Steipp could have gotten Eontec/Li to forge the alliance ?
Great work by Mr. Steipp, saving lqmt from RS followed by certain bankruptcy.
You should write him a thank you letter.
There are some interesting posts, but yes it is boring when we have posts regarding the share count and Steipp.
Maybe its not your enthusiasm thats gone but rather your fear of the unknown, LQMT is stronger now than ever before, stronger than we could have hoped for, a billionaire Chinese manufacture is a major investor and at the helm, so no need to check this site to see whats happening with our investment, its safe, we all know its heading in the right direction regardless of what the short term share price is.
I keep checking for the posts with new news and information.
re Gamesc pdf link,
No don't man-up and admit when your wrong, just claim that it was fake news o.O
True, right now there is no market for trading lqmt, all investors are holding and waiting, thats where the MM's come in to create activity where there is none, the MM's went quiet after the purchase went through without any delays, so no setbacks or negative news to take advantage of and create share selling for activities sake. Same happens when there is positive news MM's then create buying activity.
The settlement of the Lake Forrest facility was not Positive enough news to take advantage off.
MM's only make money on the Churn. They don't care if investors are buying or selling just as long as investors are trading and paying those commissions.