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viva, i found something on the northwest progressive institute advocate website on washington mutual. would you post it for me? i dont know how to so all that stuff. the article spells everything out. the title is " washington mutual files suit against fdic, alleges deal with chase violates its rights"
diamond, didnt tpg buy a bank ..i think aurion. what say they merge the bank they bought with the residual banks jpm didnt want of wamu's, providian cc company that was stolen and wmi is back in business. i think the bank tpg bought was in west. phoenix, new mexico etc. head to head competition for jpm!
viva, i dont think chase bagged all the locations. i feel jpm wanted in the market but cant take all or dont want all. i think we are getting those locations back as well as the banks in ny, fdic are running plus the providian cc company stolen from the holding co.
try CITprA i think etrade lists it different or CITpA
i think they may hit it jerle. they definitely want to keep it low. i got my ira rollover. 85,000 coming in tomorrow. keep it low for me!
cyb, does this mean we have until jan 31st to buy up stock to be counted in payout?
link didnt work cyb.
whats the lowest you guys paid this week? the lowest i got was 2 weeks ago at 2.75. did anyone get shares at 4-5 this week? just wondering if i have a chance at cheap shares or if they will play games again this week.
when they were just talking settlement my stock jumped from 2.65 to 34.99 in not to short of time. if they announce any kind of money coming back to wmi could see 100.00 or better. all monies will go to parent wmi then they will turn out of bk imo. with the bank accounts at the ready with wfc. just waiting on the ruling and the check! also i feel that we will get dividends restored. i know most here keep saying we wont see anything pertaining to this. but i dont feel that shareholders should bear the brunt of this. we didnt ask to be taken down. wmi was stolen and the restitution jpm and fdic will pay will fully restore all dividends missed. why should the shareholders suffer for being robbed? dividends are not an option i feel if they are to turn out of bk. didnt pref. have a contract. even though wmi didnt break that contract but fdic and jpm did they should restore them in full. thats my opinion on the matter and i am holding mine awaiting those divi's.
wampq cant be converted till 2012. they are just speculating.
the marketoracle article confirms what i have been saying .."the takedown of wamu was politically motivated!" i was right.
is indymac merging with cit?
barclays already gave them money. they do not lose. yesterday riversource added 56% and they already have added 5% more and the regular trading just started. also have you seen.. riversource now has 3 of their funds invested in cit. dont think their in it to lose money for their constituents.
looks like press is working real hard to get shares for th big boys. some added upwards of 56% more from yesterday. they are scaring you! the big boys saw the .53 gain and said oh we want in now! bring it down. put some stuff out using unnamed sources saying maybe will file or will probably file to scare people off. thats my opinion! they did the same thing back when they were really on the abyss. but they didnt then either. i think people have been had and will see their previous stocks run straight up. jmo p.s. check cnbc.com and look at the investors in cit and it shows what they added yesterday.
wonder if the parlay will come to fruition with the global settlement. lehman's bank is up and running...wmi needs a bank. may see a merger here. sure hope so. since the same attorneys working on both i'm sure they could work something out.
barclays is offering continued assistance and now citicorp is doing the same. i think they are trying to get bondholders to help as much as possible before going to barclays or citi. i think we are just fine.
the symbol is CITpA or CITpC.
if you go on cnbc.com and put in cit and click the investors tab you will see the big firms that own this. i think we are just fine imo.
absolutely!! have you seen the volume and it isnt even noon!
but tpg does have an agreement out side of the stock i believe. isnt it that they would get paid the difference between common and preferred if something happened to common? that is the only way they would exchange their preferred for common. also a portion of the 4.4 billion (approx 1.8 bil) maybe tied up in the tpg contract they signed. better for us. i read it somewhere jerle.
i read where barclays was going to help with loans. this wsj stuff is dump propaganda. they did it when cit was on the brink of bk too. they give generalities always with unnamed sources. dont fall for it. this stock is going to shoot up. the mm;s have held it down 2 months on high volume. the only way is up from here.
wsj started the crap about filing bk too. they didnt. this is just press to get people to sell. look at the article it say maybe, could, and anonymus sources? total dump article. barclays is helping us. they dont lend money unless they get it back thats for sure. this is all because the big boys want in cause they didnt have the balls to jump in back when they were threatening bk. it will go up again and real soon. jmo
with jpm possibly breaking up into 4, i think tpg is loading up on jpm stock to force a sell of specific assets or a consolidated giveback to wmi for what they stole. they have to breakup jpm to retrieve wmi assets stolen so not to bring attention to the fact that jpm stock was actually propped up by wmi because they were insolvent. shareholders have a great case against jpm for fraud especially when jd said he could have had wamu for 1 dollar. that screams collusion with fdic. unknowing stockholders have been lied to about what jpm is actually worth because wamu was their sacrificial lamb to keep them afloat. walls are closing in and look who jumped first!! but he will end up a cellmate with madoff. how appropriate since they were the funneling bank for madoff. also the europe jpm guy (winters is his name i think) stepped down too. madoff thing is going to be a huge problem for them too. feds going after the family first then the actual players like jpm!! looking better everyday for wmi. accounts at wfc ready to roll. all they need is their money and property returned (providian,etc.) and out of bk!
that is exactly what i am saying!!! your cipher'n is fine. wmi stock symbol has already been reissued to wamuq cayman preferred back last sept. think about it people are pissed about the tarp. jpm took tarp. continued to give dividends to shareholders while taking tarp. a big no no. taking down a solvent bank to prop up their share structure. and people are losing jobs and cant feed their families? they are going to turn us loose so fast. they want this scandal far far away. so let wmi go!!!! chant...let wmi go!!! out of posts for today. see ya'll tomorrow or maybe tonight after 12midnight.
i am talking providian, the skyscaper in seattle etc. they already agreed to sell the banks to jpm but in april jpm wasnt giving credit to wmi for the 4.4 bil. that is why wmi walked away from talks. by breaking up jpm they can give back without bringing attention that the 4.4 bil and other assets stolen were being used to prop up their shares and company. the skyscraper was supposedly sold to russell insurance for 100 million worth 300million. the attorney that works for weil and represents russell brokered the deal. cozy dont you think!! fdic couldnt have transferred title of anything. thursday to friday morning and bk was filed. this was a smokescreen jpm was puting up "see we sold the skyscaper"...believe us now? i think russell is a place holder for wmi. i think skyscaper will be returned and russell will be integrated into the wmi family after breakout. on russells website after buying the skyscaper said we hope thing all work out. why would they say this unless they dont actually have ownership but helping to facilitate the fascade so jpm stock doesnt tank while the brokered deal and jpm fallout happens. this is just to cool huh?
i feel wmi is out for blood they will never merge in my opinion! thanks for your vote of confidence. feeling like im on a desert island here. puzzle pieces are definitely fitting. i was just waiting for the last piece. who was going down for it? and that was answered this morning. this is going to be ugly for fdic and jpm. lawsuits by shareholders, demise of fdic. people will be pulling money to stuff the mattresses soon. but when wmi comes out we need to be their charter members and deposit our millions in the holding co and bank that made us. for sure they wont mess with wmi again!! and dont forget your charities when you go to spend all your money!!!
im not talking bid. i am saying that the ask price they are showing is not the real ask...the ask is actually higher. so people who hit the ask dont get filled..they just sit there and the volume stays low. nite would not fill me at ask and i had to call the broker and i sat on the phone until he filled me at the ask showing... not the one they claimed it was. scottrade is very bad for this.
absolutely!! and it wouldnt take much to open an online banking system and cut fees entirely to customers for minimum sustainable deposit. this would send monies flooding into wmi. wmi is in the drivers seat. i feel they will get money from fdic and jpm is being broken up to give the assets back that were stolen from wmi. providian etc. if they left jpm intact and then returned everything big flags would show to existing shareholders of jpm. jaime dimon has lied to his constituents about everything to do with wamu and leh. he has misled everyone by announcing dividends again. simulating they are stable. when in fact he was pumping his own stock. he will go to jail for this. his open mouth insert foot cameo saying that he could have had wamu for one dollar...totally implicates fdic and sheila bair also. this is far from over. but i wouldnt think wmi would do anything to save jpm. they have been bitter rivals forever. wmi set the trap with the 4.4bil to catch them i feel. and the rat took the cheese. it pays to do DD. but jaime nor sheila did any. it was all about power for them. the bigger they are the harder they fall! wamu was a conquest for jaime and a test case for sheila. neither worked. we are stellar.
its on the ihub. gmen found it for me. they changed their name and the only thing they changed was a comma in the name. from washington mutual inc. to washington mutual,inc. and chase at the bottom of their site also updated the trademark name for washington mutual also. the ticker symbol wmi was vacated by waste management and they took our old one wm. perfect fit i think. also the cayman pref stock was reissued early on to wmi ticker. but the stock cannot be realized till turnout. that is why when waste management has an announcement wamuq shows up as an alert. we are in limbo until turnout and both symbols will then trade and alert normally after that.
yes i am an original providian acct holder. last month i logged in to pay my account on chase and it bumped me out. i had not had a problem up until then. it said i had to choose another username. i chose my orig one and it took it but it clicked back in the box with the username plus the suffix wmc040189. i feel this is an earmark for providian accounts incorporated into chase. that way they can separate them for return to wmi. why else would it have done this? wmi is getting providian back imo.
they are doing the same thing with lehpq. they show the ask at .20 or whatever. people put their buy in at .20 but the real ask is .22. stock sits dormant no fills and none are sold so they dont have to deal with manipulating the price down after the rise. you just dont get filled from the get go.
why did wmi go thru the filing for name change then? if they were going to merge why go thru that? i dont think they want to merge they just want their money and turn them loose from bk. "wmi" ticker is available the cayman preffereds were reissued in "WMI" stock. name was changed from washington mutual inc. to washington mutual, inc. why go thru it if they were going to merge? i just dont think that will happen. jpm is going to be broken up why deal with that! maybe they are breaking up to give wmi a piece to pay them out cause they dont have the money. maybe thats why jpm is breaking up. asset swap instead of money. providian has to be returned to the holding company also that was stolen. usernames are being segregated at jpm. mine was changed by them with the suffix of wmc040189. washington mutual corp. and the orig date of acct. why would this be done if it wasnt being earmarked for return? i think turnout for wmi over merger.
why merge? they aregoing to get everything they asked for!!! why muck your reputation with jpm? no need. we are the phoenix out of the ashes!!! truth has prevailed. ding dong the witch is dead!!
jes staley named successor to jaime dimon at jpm!!! looks like JD is doing a silent exit. maybe BO will give his "best Banker" a job! jaime says, "now that the credit crisis is averted its my time to move on!" lol. what a joke!!!!
fidelity 23 minutes ago saying JES STALEY is in line to succeed jaime dimon at jpm. looks like jd is doing a silent exit ! maybe BO has a space in the white house for his "best banker"
if banks can merge why not holding companies? if they somehow give immunity to wmi for future litigation pertaining to prior lehman cases why not merge. if jpm can split into 4 why cant lehman split into 2 and wmi take the good parts and give the bad to jpm. that's the least they can do since they caused this whole fiasco. jmo.
smarttrend has us as a buy! it says after my last post wamuq has gained 15% lol!! i am already up 1500% this guys a little slow to be giving people advice i think! shouldve started last sept. i was posting back then...but it took some people longer to just believe!!! go wamu!!!
yes, and i feel will be the catalyst to turn this economy around. but not before the corrupt people are purged from the scandal. someone's head will roll. hopefully it will be BO's best banker!! and sheila "shady" bair. or like i like to call them bonnie and clyde! i'll let you guess who clyde is. lol!!!
yea, when the shareholders for jpm come to sue them ....can you see jd holding up the article from "the street" saying we tried to warn you!!! lol. dont think that will hold water with them do you? also the fact they have held jpm down in the 43-45 range says something. with the billions they made with wamu they should be trading like gs. instead i feel after settlement they will definitely be in the cff club. citi,fnm,fre club!!!!