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Looks like somebody is sneaking out the back door selling in 1k lots today. Opps maybe their buying most of its been at the ask. Slower than paint drying here and I'm talking oil-based!
Hopefully if they tell the story it is a lot cheaper than some of these shisters that are out there. They probably did the mailing for less tan 10k where paying someone 15k a month and then a ton of options, warrants, and anything else they can steal. I like this as investors have the potential to share equally in the gains and can tell the story as well through word of mouth. After reading this PR ican only say this story trully is worth repeating. It's certainly believable from what we know of the Chinese.
It was pretty much as handbelleditor stated. It was dated for Dec so apparently that was te pop in Dec. Obviously some were privy and some were not(LOL)!
I will when I get home tonite after 9:00pm. Very positive!
Anybody getting the mailing? I did with TD Ameritrade today. It was sent from management and was very upbeat. It talked about the 3 acquisitions and the impact from them. Government backing and basically about a tremendous future. I think we could really come out fine if they didn't dilute to bad with the acquisitions. Never did a indepth DD but listened to a few respectable posters on the chinese microcap board. This could really turn out well especially with battery recycling. Wished I had more money.
Her is where the other $600k is coming from the land transfer.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/QuickFacts.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1195162%20&Category=Quick%20Facts
WE are definately being accumulated and are on the radar.
http://theguruinvestor.com/2009/12/18/oberweis-look-to-small-cap-growth-and-china/
This was before smokes. Now at in $3.8Mil on smokes on 10Mil)very conservative)put us at .77 for 2010 fully diluted using 24Mil o/s for a PE of 3 this year!
http://www.chinaplus1.com:8881/content/chinese-growth-stock-ckgt-52-week-high-284
Traderfan, As far as CKGT continue adding here. Start unloading your high PE stocks and play the Dow of the Dogs with 5 Chinese microcaps but use low PE's instead. I've went to 4 instead with CKGT, NEWN,TELT, and SRRY. I believe way to many people are underestimating cigs here. These cigs automatically have worldwide penetration possilities being exposed to China and Asia. MO(altria) does 80% ROE on Cigs. This is going to be like KIA in the automotive market. Hang on here as I see $11Mil on Cig sales being an absolute low-ball. We have the warrants issue but once thats gone we are going up verysharp and quick. We will see major news coming here as the cockroach theory begins to play out here. That theory being good news will be proceded by more good news. Also holds true with bad news. Fon't know about uplisting but all the rest of my DD says we have the possibility of .90 a share. Buy all you can unfortunately, I have funds in transit and will be adding 25k over the next couple of weeks. This will be one of the top performers in 2010. $1.50 earnings is very possible in 2011.
This news is excellent. Anybody ever see what MO' profit margins are on cigs? My guess is the 38% margins go up considerable. Outsourcing and making better use of funds. Things could not have worked out better IMO. You get paid money to outsource through cheaper labor and better use of assets.They also have control of processes and production. It's cheaper and more profitible. Period. This managment continues to make excellent decisions.
Obviously with imminent domain they had no options. It appears as though they received fair compensation but not really sure. Hopefully company will do a PR and explain. Going to do a little DD on the properties. From reading the 8k they are getting paid to relocate.
My understanding is cigs were released the end of Nov. when annualized comes to around $6 Mil including $2.1 Mil contract. This includes no new contracts and no expansion. I believe that cigs will not only add to the bottom line but enable CKGT to the next level. Cigs should no longer be considered the wild card but revenues of $10 Mil on the low side should be baked into next years estimates. The wild card IMO is the hog feed which has as much potential as the cigs. Between these two product launches alone will increase sales by 50-65% minimum with NO product launches. Don't forget we have 6-7 products waiting for launch announcement dates. Don't anyone confuse facts with pumping as this stock is trully headed for a much larger exchange. I challenge anyone to bring a stock to this board with the growth rate that has not only been demonstrated but intact with future product releases. Also 12 patents waiting for approval. IMO, we will see major cig news that will dwarf yesterdays news which will bring institutional interest which up until now has been non-existant. I don't consider Seaside anything but a 2nd rate penny hustler. Double digits on my part is an expectation here based on my DD and WILL happen this year!
Appears that ckgt can absorb the conversion of warrants. As far as the Seaside not 100% sure if they have been getting the shares or if they have been selling. My guess is yes to both. That is probably why we had a PR yesterday as the price was drifting. I don't believe that is the last of news before earnings. Once the next piece of news is revealed we should be going to the nesxt level. Volume is still very good! Probably some non-core holdings bougt yesterday to lock in profits. Any comments or rumours pertaining to Seaside?
It appears that CKGT.OB did an excellent job with finances in regards to dilution. After receiving the monies from warrant conversion along with the Seaside deal we should be in excellent condition financially. No debt is my expectation. Providing they do NOT need any unforseen monies for expansion the cash flow should be sufficient. Unfortunately, my finances suck with this recent downturn thus unable to add. Bought my last ones at $2.36 otherwise would have been adding yesterday. IMO, once the market stabilizes we are off to the races as the only problem I see would be dilution.
tnzalu the PE without expansion gives us $4.80 PPS. I'm currently assuming earnings of .42(non-gaap) for 09 which gives you my PE-6 Now take .42 with 50% net income growth gives .63 FOR 10 WITHOUT CIGS. Now assume $10 Mil cig sales at 38% margins. This gives us approximately .80 for 10 .80 x 6= $4.80 PPS. This is without NO uplist. Also very conservative with cigs IMO. Assuming ALL dilution. Now assume managment announces intent to uplist. I expect AMEX comes to mind but certainly wished it were the NASDAQ.
Now immdediately up 150% from the $4.80 and you come to $4.80 x1.5=$7.20+4.80=$12 Per Share. This is my prediction on Q1 2011 earnings Release based on a PE-12 with an uplist. This is the real McCoy. I believe this is based on ultra-conservative numbers. Pappy actually talked me into this when it was in the 40 cent range over CNOA.OB I made a fortune with UTVG.OB from pappy a few years ago.
Remember this post. Now double that and you get .16 on the cig business alone this year. Factor in the 50% profit growth from ongoing operations is $.40 for 09 and .60 for 2010 plus .16 on cigs possibly on the low side. I figured this on all dilution.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=45759229
Look for something from GeoInvesting very soon. I've been in contact and they are trying to set up meeting with company. I'm fully loaded and have touted cigs as a huge success. Today confirms what I've been saying.
Best of luck with your $1.50's I trully believe $2 is stretching it. Cigs are goingto work out very well for the company and everybody knows it. Once the uplisting is announced we move thru $3 very quickly IMO...Steven
Once the warrants are converted do they restate the phony losses? I'm not really sure but you would think q2 & q3 are fictional losses. Otherwise you would think you would have a balance sheet which would be incorrectly stated. Until they are converted I could see adjustments quarterly based on the warrant excersize price Book Value would be impacted by the $2+ Mil that was charged to earnings. Anyone know the answer here?
With smokes adding $5-6 Mil next year at 38% margins, alcohol growing at 50% with 52% margins, neutriceuticals growing at 20+% with a 47% margin. This does not include pig feed, cattle feed, poultry feed, and a host of other products to be released. Once the conversion of warrants is over along with the Seaside deal this rocket is going to launch. Whether you bought it at $2.00 -$2.50 is irrelevant. I'm not going to tell you this isn't going lower but I will say that once the waited news is released it will be to late. That could come as quickly as next Tuesday or 2-3 months. ere is the presentation if you haven't read it please take the time and even if you have, refresh yourself as to why this was one of the favorites.
http://www.biocactus.com/down/CKGT-Presentation-2009-12-14.pdf
I was able to pick up 1500 st $2.36 today. Nice to see some volume once again.
If the warrants are being excersized how does this affect GAAP? Not really sure but if they are being converted this is good IMO. Thoughts or comments please
Strange thing is this was picked more than any other stock on the pick six contest yet absolutely NO one talking. Is everything speculation or are we accumulating first? Anybody...Steven
Are you referring to CKGT.OB specific or market meltdown? The reason I'm asking is because everybody thinks like the crowd. Unfortunately, the market has a mind of its own. IMO, we see 11,000 dow before 10,000. Majority of Dow stocks will beat expectations with somewhat of an upbeat view. As far as CKGT.OB it very easily could drop to $2.40-2.50 but that too will be s-lived. I'm expecting some type of reassurance (news?) that all is good at CKGT.OB very soon. Again, with all the people talking about getting out of CKGT.OB to free up dead money will be the biggest mistake as many chase in the hopes of nice gains. This year is NOT the time to play the market as we did with Chinese microcaps last year but start honing in on L-term stategies as many hyped up speculative junk comes crashing to reality. I am not saying that we won't have 3-5 baggers but a LOT less. Any thoughts or comments on telt.ob?
Only bad thing is as soon as you sell it pops. Almost guarenteed. I sold my trading shares and won't part with core. I was up 1800% last year(not a typo) and would feel very good with 100% thus I'm going to hold ckg.ob as it is a very safe double IMO. Anybody shed any light on telt.ob? Looks like an easy double with a good ER.
Excellent post Pappy. I've been so frusterated watching others stocks continue their upward momentum while ckgt.ob peters out. Knowing that ckgt.ob has not only more potential but having things happening now. I;m gonna hold my core shares here as I have been buying telt.ob daily this week trying to get a decent position. Any thoughts on telt.ob? By the way somebody on Yahoo said the cigs released on Nov. 30. and if that is so we could be one of the best performing stocks all year!
http://www.digitalapps.net/product_services/Overview.html
It actually looks very good! Maybe patrick will finally get it right.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=TELT.OB
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=TELT.OB
If they can breakeven Q4 we have Net Income of $4.5Mil with 8.66Mil shares comes to .52 a share. However, they have initiated an international expansion which has hekped tremendously. In the event they match last Q we are looking at .75 a share in earnings. This one has lots of room to run. Remember q4 brakeven and we are trading at a PE of 3 and a Q'ly match we have a PE of 2. I've been buying small amounts all week with an average price of $1.50
You are probably right as for emotions. It reminded be about CKGT.OB and preferred(deemed dividend, warrants, etc). They usually get so many perks it just makes me sooo angry. I know they are going to do a huge acquisition but two many of these big acquisitions never deliver any shareholder value. I like internal growth such as CKGT.OB
People have been chasing other stocks who have management who continues to disappoint with unbelievable dilution such as CCME. Fortunately, a few here have been adding such as myself. I totally do not understand. They have a plan that is working and growing the business with minimal debt yet we are almost ignored. Unbelievable IMO. I took the boards opinion and purchased some CCME only to get screwed with more dilution after the prior is coming to an end. I know people will say it is for an acquisition...yada yada. Sold it at the open. Buy CKGT.OB and you will be happy.
Cigs could add revenues of 600k+ in Q1 revenues. All in all I see earning coming in atleast 75% higher in Q1 with as much as 100%. The EPS depends on the o/s being used We could very well see $3-5 mil in sales in 2010 on cigs alone . This product could be spun off within 2-3 years with a price of $5. Remember BAT along time ago. Smart money has been accumulating. Still see $5 much quicker than most here as many are buying here as the cig business brings some 2nd lookers back. Get ready for the ride as I have a gut feeling this is gonna take off very soon!!!!!!!
Thanks for the clarification in regards to the PPS. I understand and somewhat agree. Your thoughts are logical and reasonable and definately well thought out. Thanks for your input. As far as an old fart I am retiring the end of this month possibly making me an old fart. Have a great day!
Agree with your thoughts pertaining to uplisting. My guess we hear something about uplisting before yearend results and if not at the time results are released. Also old SRRY.OB CCME NEWN.OB with an expectation of 100% gain for 2010. WE should close at %3+ tommorrow as the wrd gets around that cigs could be the wild card here and te impetus to go much higher quicker than many thought. I believe by May 15 we see the $5 as that would be the final date for q1 earnings which is the beginning of the blowout numbers. Keep this in perspective when comparing q/q from prior years as q1 is notoriously their lowest. IMO, we see 100% increase in Q1 net incomevper share with a 40-45% increase in revenues. Any comments or thoughts welcome...Steven
Why are you giving BSPM.OB a PE of 15? Seems a little high IMO and less than 10X on CKGT.OB? With CKGT.OB growing at 30% and earnings at 50% I trully don't understand. As I have stated I believe .70 -.80 is fair estimate for 2010 based on what we know for CKGT.OB and after the uplisting trully a PE of 10 is conservative. Also as I have stated...the cigs are the real McCoy and will garner more sales than many expect. I realize you are very conservative Pappy and for that I have the utmost respect but how are you coming up with a PE of 15 on BSPM.OB? That blows your conservative numbers and PPS projections out the window. Added all my trading shares back today as this is the confirmation I've been waiting for...Steven P.S. Anybody who wasn'r a believer in the cigs better jump on the bandwagon here as $4-5 is coming much quicker than most expect! I'm expecting a blowout year in terms of net income and revenue with a minimum of $7-8 by yearend.
Once the uplisting comes you will see $4 as this is still worth as much or more than BSPM.OB Believe me I like BSPM.OB!
Mike you have mentioned backlog on an older post perhaps even months ago. After the excellent last Q numbers what are your expectations for q4? Kind of hard to get any feel from recent PR's in regards to the future. Any idea if the expansion and exceptance of the 20/20 awitch can/will continue? How about current backlog? TIA...Currently have a very small starter position but would like to add....any thing you can add would be great!
Finally got in. Too much good DD that lead to 1 conclusion and that was to buy. Sold my trading shares in ckgt.ob to diversify a little. Also bought some srry.ob thanks to Bob Stocks excellent DD and others contributing equally. The new board with premium members is good because all stocks "pumped" and alowed to be "pumped" are technically and fundamentally are either stong or undervaled and in most cases both.
for this reason alone eliminates alot of meaningless and worthless posts that do not meet the criteria of the board. Cocrats to CSP and all the others. Look at the impact that 45k people following ECSC could have.
I'm a little confused...Please explain. TIA
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/100107/sclx.ob8-k.html
Status Action Quantity Symbol Type Price Act. Price Expiration Reported
Filled Buy 5000 SRRY Limit 0.435 -- -- 15:58:24 01/06/10
Order No. 5926531315 Sancon Res Recovery Inc Com Entered:15:57:58 01/06/10 Reuse
Just added 5k of srry.ob at .435 also.