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everything looking well here. I'm not a chartist as I prefer fundamentals, news and momentum over charts, but I do understand them. The current RPDI chart looks great and speaks of better times ahead. RSI going into the power zone and MACD going positive. CMF also turned positive and the A/D line crossover also speaks well. Add all this to no more current dilution and I do believe we have a big time winner in the making. Love those gold mines. Added a couple million today.
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It would be reasonable to expect that reckless behavior begets negative consequences. But on Wall Street, the rules are different.
I write my congressman and senators at least once a week expressing outrage that my tax dollars are being used to bail out these people that reaped billions in bonuses and commissions on this crap. It seems to do no good. It almost makes a person want to go underground and quit paying taxes altogether. As with the Roman empire of old, the US empire is crumbling from within. Sorry to say I think our grandchildren will be living in a quasi 3rd world country.
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Just called the TA- no change from yesterday share count. They probably just needed a little cash and only loosed 30 million shares. Still holding.
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Some TAs are self gagging and will not release any info unless the company specifically authorizes the release of share info. Other open TAs are gagged by the company. It should raise a very large red flag if you are unable to get share info from a TA. It is a good thing that we can get that info on this company. Openness shows they are not trying to hide anything from investors.
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beachcracker- I'm not here bashing this company. In fact I added another million today to my portfolio. When you have 2 nice news releases and the pps doesn't move with this kind of volume, I get suspicious. That's why I called the TA and confirmed the share count. It's tough to swallow a company complaining about naked shorts when they are adding shares to the market. In many years of trading pennies, I have found that "market maker manipulation" turns out to be plain and simple dilution a large majority of the time. I'm not going to add any more at this point and will be in close contact with the TA on share counts. Rising share counts ought to be a very good indication of where we're going. But, again, we all know anything can happen in pennyland. I can remember many companies with many billions outstanding rising far more than we're sitting at now. I'm hoping for the best, but will keep my eyes open.
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pokerkid- I guess they have 2 different transfer agents. one that tells you no increase and one that tells me 30 million shares have been added since the iBox update. When someone calls me a liar in so many words and is brand new to Ihub, I seriously question their motives for trying to pump a stock.
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retireat40- good idea, compare to what they gave me today. They don't open until noon EST.
Stalt- 1 650 321 7111
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I suspected some dilution here so I called the TA. OS count as of COB Friday:
318,257,129 shares.
Just FYI
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We're in a long term commodity bull market. There will be setbacks and corrections along the way. It's normal and expected. It will continue until the US and many other countries get their currencies under control. It won't happen for many years in the US as the only policy has been to create more dollars to fix everything and leave taxpayers on the hook for it. The only problem you can have with real commodities is if you're using margin which can get you in trouble during corrections. Some may disagree, but I believe Sinclair has a good handle on things. Frank Veneroso is of the opinion that central banks have very little gold left to sell. Chuck Butler opines that there is more gold above ground and available than silver(not my opinion there). Hang on and try to avoid the ulcers. You'll be ok.
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I remember that. "Valued at" and what was received for them are many times different numbers. I'm not arguing with you here, just thinking aloud. We're on the same side.
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If you need any boosts from very large shareholders to get you inside, let us know. These things are closed to the general public most times. A few well placed calls from irate shareholders could get you in with no hassles.
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Agreed, but it could make some nice collateral to borrow more. I hope I'm wrong, but the need for funds coupled with the volumes of late and no pps movement to speak of, I just figure 1 + 1 still = 2.
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I remember a few years back. I bought some CMKX at .0001¢. Nothing going for it except dilution that some estimated at 100 billion shares. Not a prayer for the stock. Yet a few weeks later it hit a high of .001¢ and I got out at .0006¢ for a nice gain on even such a worthless stock as that was. I think this stock has a lot more going for it. Time will tell.
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thank you beachcracker, very nice numbers for a sub penny trading in this range. If the float doesn't increase substantially, this can only go up.
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I hope someone proves me wrong on this, but coupling the emails stating they are seeking financing and the volumes of late, I got a feeling where at least some of that financing is coming from. Been doing pennies for too many years not to suspect major dilution going on.
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Just FYI- that last buy listed on most scanners as a .0004 was really a .00049. I wonder how many others are going that way on listings.
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They aren't going to buy on press clippings. Yes and no to that statement. Some will buy on news like that. This is still a start up company and getting in on the ground floor of a successful start up can be very lucrative. Others that do some research based on the news probably look at the company, do some research and pass it by because it is a pinkie. Been there done that many times on other companies. And speaking as purely an investor as opposed to a trader, I don't blame them one bit. There is no verifiable information. But many will kepp it on radar because the info available is stating an uplist to the otcbb is in the works and awaiting approval. That will provide the info a true investor wants to see- numbers submitted to the SEC on a document which if falsified will bring a lot of trouble to company officers. And no one wants the SEC breathing down their neck. This is what is so critical now to the future of the company from an investor's point of view. I do believe a lot of radars will be going off once we get that uplist and the Q's and K's become available for public perusal. Patience my friend is the key.
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3 things to remember to make money on ETNL:
patience patience patience
and that's not just my humble opinion only.
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basser- team loyalty is as common as brand loyalty in the US. Knowledge of that has made fortunes for many in retail. And baby boomers have changed just about everything else they have touched, why not the funeral industry.
btw- was the pic of the USC fullback or tight end? LOL
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absolutely, bet the gators this year. The urns would be so much more popular when they are for the #1 team. JMHO of course.
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They may not have an urn yet, but if you bet football they will make you some money this year.
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thought provoking:
It is now clear that central banks are using national treasuries to indemnify losses incurred by private banks. This should come as no surprise. Once private bankers and public government colluded to debase the currencies of their nations in order to enrich themselves, the joining of the two was inevitable and it is happening as we watch.
The last and final act of capitalism will be characterized by the looting of what little remains in our national treasuries as central bankers bail out the banks that caused our present problems. The only thing new is our surprise that it is happening.
The consequences, however, will not end there. The consequence of the public bailout of private banks will be the collapse of fiat currencies, currencies which have been the very basis of government and bankers' power—power which will be swept away when fiat currencies collapse.
THE END GAME
Capitalism and credit markets—the bastard offspring of fiat money and central banking—are now in their final stage; and the default of fiat money will herald the end of the reign of central bankers in our affairs. No fiat system has ever survived. The present fiat system will be no exception to that rule
For those worried about private property, have no fear. Capitalism has nothing to do with the private ownership of property as maintained by private bankers and their corporate sponsors. The private ownership of property existed long before capitalism and will exist long after.
Capitalism has everything to do with central bankers' issuance of debt-based money and the increasing power of government in our lives and the increasing profits of bankers at our expense.
Thomas Jefferson, the author of America's Declaration of Independence understood well the threat posed by central banks:
The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution...Bankers are more dangerous than standing armies... [and] If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.
With the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913, the American people allowed private bankers to destroy the economic freedom the founding fathers had fought to achieve.
That first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations as Jefferson warned are now in the process of depriving Americans and others of their homes and property by the issuance of credit and by default on those debts
The founding father fought a war in 1776; and 137 years later in 1913, Americans ceded back what they had won when they allowed private bankers to establish the Federal Reserve Bank in the US, a central bank which would do exactly as Jefferson said
Since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System, the US has been a slave to bankers and those in government who do their bidding, Today, Americans are bankrupt and indebted to those they allowed to issue their currency.
Today, America's once free markets are rigged and government officials lie openly and with impunity whenever it serves their purpose to do so, their words no more trustworthy than the statistics they produce in order to pacify a nation regarding the dangers they have put it in.
Soon, however, that will change. For the collapse of the fiat US dollar will also bring about the collapse of those who benefit from its false issuance—private bankers, corporations and those who govern for their benefit in our name.
Although we do not possess the requisite power to successfully oppose those who oppress us, we can however wait for their inevitable demise, a demise that will unfortunately be as devastating to us as it will be to them.
The collapse of the US dollar will be horrific as will be its aftermath. But the price of liberty is always high. It was high in 1776. It will be high again.
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thought the board may like this point of view:
It is now clear that central banks are using national treasuries to indemnify losses incurred by private banks. This should come as no surprise. Once private bankers and public government colluded to debase the currencies of their nations in order to enrich themselves, the joining of the two was inevitable and it is happening as we watch.
The last and final act of capitalism will be characterized by the looting of what little remains in our national treasuries as central bankers bail out the banks that caused our present problems. The only thing new is our surprise that it is happening.
The consequences, however, will not end there. The consequence of the public bailout of private banks will be the collapse of fiat currencies, currencies which have been the very basis of government and bankers' power—power which will be swept away when fiat currencies collapse.
THE END GAME
Capitalism and credit markets—the bastard offspring of fiat money and central banking—are now in their final stage; and the default of fiat money will herald the end of the reign of central bankers in our affairs. No fiat system has ever survived. The present fiat system will be no exception to that rule
For those worried about private property, have no fear. Capitalism has nothing to do with the private ownership of property as maintained by private bankers and their corporate sponsors. The private ownership of property existed long before capitalism and will exist long after.
Capitalism has everything to do with central bankers' issuance of debt-based money and the increasing power of government in our lives and the increasing profits of bankers at our expense.
Thomas Jefferson, the author of America's Declaration of Independence understood well the threat posed by central banks:
The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution...Bankers are more dangerous than standing armies... [and] If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.
With the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913, the American people allowed private bankers to destroy the economic freedom the founding fathers had fought to achieve.
That first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations as Jefferson warned are now in the process of depriving Americans and others of their homes and property by the issuance of credit and by default on those debts
The founding father fought a war in 1776; and 137 years later in 1913, Americans ceded back what they had won when they allowed private bankers to establish the Federal Reserve Bank in the US, a central bank which would do exactly as Jefferson said
Since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System, the US has been a slave to bankers and those in government who do their bidding, Today, Americans are bankrupt and indebted to those they allowed to issue their currency.
Today, America's once free markets are rigged and government officials lie openly and with impunity whenever it serves their purpose to do so, their words no more trustworthy than the statistics they produce in order to pacify a nation regarding the dangers they have put it in.
Soon, however, that will change. For the collapse of the fiat US dollar will also bring about the collapse of those who benefit from its false issuance—private bankers, corporations and those who govern for their benefit in our name.
Although we do not possess the requisite power to successfully oppose those who oppress us, we can however wait for their inevitable demise, a demise that will unfortunately be as devastating to us as it will be to them.
The collapse of the US dollar will be horrific as will be its aftermath. But the price of liberty is always high. It was high in 1776. It will be high again.
__._,_.___
very thought provoking read:
It is now clear that central banks are using national treasuries to indemnify losses incurred by private banks. This should come as no surprise. Once private bankers and public government colluded to debase the currencies of their nations in order to enrich themselves, the joining of the two was inevitable and it is happening as we watch.
The last and final act of capitalism will be characterized by the looting of what little remains in our national treasuries as central bankers bail out the banks that caused our present problems. The only thing new is our surprise that it is happening.
The consequences, however, will not end there. The consequence of the public bailout of private banks will be the collapse of fiat currencies, currencies which have been the very basis of government and bankers' power—power which will be swept away when fiat currencies collapse.
THE END GAME
Capitalism and credit markets—the bastard offspring of fiat money and central banking—are now in their final stage; and the default of fiat money will herald the end of the reign of central bankers in our affairs. No fiat system has ever survived. The present fiat system will be no exception to that rule
For those worried about private property, have no fear. Capitalism has nothing to do with the private ownership of property as maintained by private bankers and their corporate sponsors. The private ownership of property existed long before capitalism and will exist long after.
Capitalism has everything to do with central bankers' issuance of debt-based money and the increasing power of government in our lives and the increasing profits of bankers at our expense.
Thomas Jefferson, the author of America's Declaration of Independence understood well the threat posed by central banks:
The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution...Bankers are more dangerous than standing armies... [and] If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.
With the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913, the American people allowed private bankers to destroy the economic freedom the founding fathers had fought to achieve.
That first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations as Jefferson warned are now in the process of depriving Americans and others of their homes and property by the issuance of credit and by default on those debts
The founding father fought a war in 1776; and 137 years later in 1913, Americans ceded back what they had won when they allowed private bankers to establish the Federal Reserve Bank in the US, a central bank which would do exactly as Jefferson said
Since the establishment of the Federal Reserve System, the US has been a slave to bankers and those in government who do their bidding, Today, Americans are bankrupt and indebted to those they allowed to issue their currency.
Today, America's once free markets are rigged and government officials lie openly and with impunity whenever it serves their purpose to do so, their words no more trustworthy than the statistics they produce in order to pacify a nation regarding the dangers they have put it in.
Soon, however, that will change. For the collapse of the fiat US dollar will also bring about the collapse of those who benefit from its false issuance—private bankers, corporations and those who govern for their benefit in our name.
Although we do not possess the requisite power to successfully oppose those who oppress us, we can however wait for their inevitable demise, a demise that will unfortunately be as devastating to us as it will be to them.
The collapse of the US dollar will be horrific as will be its aftermath. But the price of liberty is always high. It was high in 1776. It will be high again.
__._,_.___
OS count update in iBox. eom
Liking these large volume days, but at a loss for the true meaning.Why?????? and what is going on behind the scenes? Time will tell.
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Good morning all- just called the TA, outstanding share count is now 112,134,835 shares. When I requested numbers on authorized, restricted and public float, I was told they only send those kind of numbers in a fax. Here's my situation now. I can fax out but machine will not accept incoming. If someone would care to help out, send me your fax number in a PM and I'll do the request and send it in with your return number. If you would then kindly post it for all to read here, we can complete the process. From the iBox it looks like we have an additional 4 million shares since mid June. That's not a large number, but I wonder how large the float is now.
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New York is also in the news facing a 6 billion budget shortfall. Gov just recalled the state legislature back into session to fix it.
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Hello all- tried the TA today twice and missed the person who gives out the info. He's now gone for the day and I willtry again tomorrow. If anyone wants to update the iBox the phone numbers are:
954 915 0105
954 915 0109
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open post to monster101 and anyone else that wants to read it. This morning I had to delete 5 of your posts on this board. If you want to question what I had to do feel free to contact admin here on Ihub. If you look at my siggy you will see how I feel about the great freedom of speech we enjoy in this country, and know this, I really did not enjoy what I had to do. Most of the people that post on this board have been and are enlightened to how this company and the CEO operate. They, like yourself, have learned the hard way. These former investors now use forums such as this to help new investors from making the same mistake they did. They have no axe to grind against anyone that comes here seeking any kind of information or assistance. All this does not mean that someone could not come here and post what they may consider positive information on this company. All opinions are welcome and I personally encourage anyone to come here and post whatever they want about this company. Disagreements may arise and some of our posters can be at times quite vehement. That's OK too as long as the post and not the poster is the object of attention. Civility is the key word here. Most times it's best just to agree to disagree and go on from there. There have been many running disagreements here in the past that sometimes lasted for a week or more. Two posters were trying to convince each other of their own respective postions on the issue and on it went. That's OK too. Everyone kept it civil and no one was defaming each other. Actually it was quite enjoyable to read. But again it was kept civil. If you are trying to get a message across to anyone try to remember that invectives and metaphors can blind a reader to the intent of the author and the message can be lost in translation. It also discourages readers from reading further posts from the same poster. I hope this message gets through to you.
Sincerely
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It could explain the downtrend this afternoon. MMs have a way of knowing these things before we do. It would blow my dilution theory all to pieces, happily I might add. See what tomorrow brings.
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will do. eom.
Cstrike- I'm with you, but still have my eyes open. If I remember tomorrow, I'll call the TA for some updated numbers. That will be for end of day today. I'll post what I find out.
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Cstrike- it's one of the reasons I held on. A merger on the pinks w/o a R/S while not a rarity, is not the norm. I also liked the way the releases were plainly worded for anyone to understand. Looks like we will need some numbers(sales) for it to really take off.
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Cstrike, granted, it is a possibility. And I certainly hope this is one case where I'm totally wrong. It goes back to the old adage about if it looks , walks, and quacks like a duck. I may be long for a better gain, but I keep my eyes wide open also.
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quick question, from the iBox:
Ticker Symbol: UDHC , Total Public Float: 6,086,924 (Last Verified: July 9th, 2008)
Where does this number originate, Clayton or the TA?
Thank you all
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Hello cstrike- first, I'm holding a little over 10000 from dpws days. It's one I tucked away in my roth for a possible future tax free gain such as this. I've been trading pennies for well over 10 years and have heard it all, mm manipulation, shorting from offshore, shaking shares before the "big" run, etc, etc, I'm sure you've heard most of it too. It's funny, but not really, that most of the time all the excuses are found to be masking the real cause, which is again, plain and simple dilution. The truth of it comes out eventually. Wait and see.
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sorry to say it, but a very large majority of the time things like this happen is plain and simple dilution. why they need to dilute is anyone's guess.
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more heavy hits on the ask. eom
over half a million shares already and I think all at the ask. something up?
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