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It's just a coincidence. Actually, UOIP had 3 months to respond. SEC waited 9 months before delisting and another 8 months or so before revocation. We all have access to the same information, no one knows any more or any less.
There's a document in the ibox filed with the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. You can also find proof on the 3rd page, numbered ii at the top, of the attached filing with the U.S. Supreme Court.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/17/17-1686/60335/20180822134311834_ChanBond%20Brief%20in%20Opposition.pdf
Geez. Are we back on this topic again? So why would Carter hold the bulk of UOIP shares? Why would filings with SCOTUS list Chanbond as a wholly owned subsidiary of UOIP?
But you were doing so well.
Which character?
You know, Jbbb, if you can't afford your medications, AstraZeneca can help.
Monday would be a good day for that request for a stay because the parties have reached an agreement.
Looks like we'll get the transcript right before trial. I hope it's not too heavily redacted.
We all locked up for months before it was delisted. You must have been busy.
Locking up your shares prevents them from being borrowed. It's different than naked short selling. Anyhow, no one here is holding "bogus shares."
Then we'll hope for $5 a share!
For months we've been hearing about this list of shareholders Carter has so he can settle up with everyone once they reach a settlement or get a verdict. Now, Carter has no idea how many shares are outstanding, BUT he DOES know that the TA's numbers were incorrect. lmao
No. But MMs buy shares on offer by shareholders to cover any short volume.
Not if there's a buyout. You have to tender your shares with a buyout; it's a capital gain.
As majority shareholder, Carter has controlling interest. But as ZW stated, he will not likely be making the distributions. I think the Board members are on standby in case they decide to relist. Otherwise, Carter will have a law firm make the distributions in the event of a buyout.
And for those MMs who sold naked shares between .02 and .06 between March and July of 2018 (we know that's where the short volume was), they were given ample opportunity by the SEC -- nearly a year and a half instead of the typical 3 months -- to buy back those non-existent shares from profit takers at cut rate prices below .01 and some in trips before delisting, leaving them with a nice profit themselves.
All depends on how long you've been holding. You have to hold a stock for 12 months or longer before it's considered a long term gain. Since it's been delisted for a year, I'm going to assume the answer to that question for you is yes.
Yes, before I bought in, and for months and months, there was a daily post ".0001." That's it. ".0001." Day after day. Week after week. Month after Month.
If Billy does know how many shares are outstanding, how does he know the TA is wrong? That just doesn't even make sense.
Thank you, Pillskill
I think that was the OS at the time. It was right around 1b when I bought the first time. The AS was 1.619. I think they started diluting the beginning of 2017, because I picked up a nice chunk at .0019 in February 2017.
I'm curious. Mainly, because I don't recall his name from Cisco's CAFC appeal. The win on portions of the '822 patent were strictly due to the absence of "RF" before "channel bonding" in some of the specs. I'm thinking that was Wechselberger's only contribution to this litigation.
That's the question, isn't it? The date of the submission to the SEC? Because UOIP stopped reporting in 2015, though they still had 1.619m+ in the AS after they quit reporting. They couldn't get new shares authorized, but they could issue previously authorized shares thereafter. The MMs were short in the 3 month run to .06. I think they balanced most of it out before we hit grays. Someone mentioned owning 10s of millions of shares and selling all but a few million. I'm sure there were plenty of traders who sold completely, before and after we went to grays. It took 9 months after the SEC's 3 month warning to delist UOIP. Another 9 or 10 months after that before they revoked the stock. It's unheard of.
We've gone over that a number of times. The SEC waited over a year to delist UOIP. We knew the MMs were short, roughly 100m shares. But that short volume dwindled after the run up to .06 until the stock hit grays, and many sold in grays -- likely back to the MMs.
Wechselberger's testimony just doesn't seem relevant. He's a marketing and sales guy with a security patent. Basically, he created a patent for security of cable services for providers, the WEP key you need to log into your internet and cable, to keep people from accessing cable for free. His expertise has nothing to do with high-speed channel bonding.
I think piracy is a criminal offense, brought by prosecutors and resulting in jail time and fines, rather than a civil matter. I'm 99% sure the outstanding shares are 1.619b. But... I have been wrong on many occasions.
I don't recall what % of the total they fall into. I know some of the smaller providers have almost negligible damage compared with the overall cost of this litigation, but I think Comcast's liability alone is close to AIF's bottom target.
Total. I think total from Comcast will put us around a dollar without treble damages.
Only MMs can trade below .0001. I think we figured out at one point that short volume was around 100 million after it ran 20% a day for 3 months in 2018. Maybe MMs trading shares below .0001? I often wonder if that's why the SEC took so long to delist. So MMs could balance out the short volume.
I think we will see $1.00 at least. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but if Carter was willing to settle that low, this thing would probably be settled.
I checked OTCMarkets regularly. It was sitting at 1.619b for several months before we delisted. It was updated daily. I've been told OTCMarkets updates it, but I don't think that's true, since there are hundreds of tickers in the OTC that are not update regularly, sometimes not for years.
There were 1b initially. Carter owns 900m. I can't recall how many Leane has, I think it's 40m, and I have no idea how many he inventors and Rob Howe and his family have, but combined with the long term UOIP shareholders they could have easily maxed out the 1b.
OTCMarkets. Dilution had stopped around March or April before we were delisted.
The TA was updating it daily until we were delisted. It was just over 1.619 and the AS was maxed out.
I think it was at 1.619 billion when we went to grays.
There are still 160 on showing UOIP in "My Stocks" here on the board, and I know 5 people not on here who are holding.
Do you think they'll settle, or take it to trial?
I was checking that one out. Was it the PTAB decision Google just appealed and lost?
It did. It wasn't dismissed, but wasn't discussed in the appeal, because it's a completely different technology that has nothing to do with high speed channel bonding. It's a patent for digital security.
Yeah. Long posted the excerpt. I still don't understand how security and sales and marketing qualify him as an expert in high speed channel bonding.