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unusual to see AH on an OTC. MMs must be holding orders...
what happened? NITE was knocked out by the 63K then he caame back on at .0285. then some ah stuff...
so UBSS and NITE are just sitting holding it down...
did they only give you 12500 @ .0285 so far?
keep slapping!
NITE has a reputation and a history of SEC fines. When trades make no sense it is probably manipulation...
someone must have put a bid in at .0239 over NITE's .0238 so NITE went up to .024
look at NITE dropping the bid when we have buys at the ask....
looks like NITE is the one trying to keep it down, the manipulative jerk. Everytime someone knocks him off the ask he undercuts the next MM again...
Saw this on another board. Could explain some of the wierd trading. The tricks they play go both ways. The SEC has a long way to go before they clean crap like this up...
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Sometimes MM's who have the power to print any price they want it seems... they'll put out a crazy priced print so it has an end result of REVERSING TECHNICAL INDICATORS and their SOFTWARE.
When you should be getting say in this case BUY PRESSURE and some technical indicators/leading indicators would be flashing BUY BUY BUY.... the High Print then the Quick Crash to the 'real' market prices, turn these indicators or flip them in the opposite direction. Thus slowing or freezing the BUY Signals in it's tracks.
It's a game they play.
Typically they can't stop the BUY/BREAKOUT, they can only hope to contain it/him. To steal a quote from Dan Patrick formerly of ESPN and now NBC.
relax skibum2k, these stocks work at their own pace. We know they have govt contracts and they are making money. The MMs are going to try and manipulate this any way they can. Sooner or later we will break out. None of my bids have filled recently so I know they are not anxious to sell....
I have had a buy in above the bid all day and no fill. MMs are not our friends, they make it look like they want it to look, not like it is. This is tight and moves quick. Nite want's yours...
it does not reflect on my ETrade account value, it still shows .08???
I use ETrade. If you wanted to buy 25 Feb $4 call contracts it would cost:
$.02/share x 100 shares/contract + $.75/contract commission = $2.75/contract x 25 contracts = $68.75 + 9.99 trade commission = $78.74 total initial investment.
If it hit $4 in the next week a $4 feb call would probably be worth $.12 or better. If you sold your 25 contracts it would be:
$.12/share x 100 shares/contract - $.75/contract commission = $11.25/contract x 25 contracts = $281.25 - 9.99 trade commission = $271.26 total return (344%).
you can also buy puts...
Like I said, who knows what the politics will do. Book value of C is over $6.
right now on "C" we have almost 4 weeks to expiration. I think we will be closer to $4 if not over $4 by then. Hard to tell what the politics will do. C is more than a $3 stock imo...
I don't know of a "sure thing" investment. But the upside potential is much greater than the downside with options. In stocks I doubt you can get 200% return just buying IBM stock or GOOG stock...
Read up on how options work. They are higher risk because if they are not in the money by expiration then they expire worthless. But they do not have to be in the money to become more valuable. For example, today a Feb expiration (feb 19) $4 citi call costs $.02/share in a 100 share contract. citi pps is now $3.22. Let's say the pps goes to $3.60 in the next week. Then the bid/ask on the feb $4 calls would probably go up to $.06 x $.07 or so. As expiration gets closer, the closer the pps needs to be to the strike price to go up. It the pps went to the $5.50 target before expiration then the $4 call option would be worth $1.50 each share (x 100 shares/contract = $150/contract for the contract that you paid $2 for)...
frdmlover, why don't you check into options? You can own rights to high-quality stocks for a fraction of their pps and leverage your investment. For example, on citi you can buy a march $4 call for $.04 now. If it goes to $4.12 before exp on march 19 you can sell the $4 call for $.12 or more for a 300% profit. 1 contract = 100 shares. so one contract would cost $4 plus commission. Feb $4 calls go for $.02. You could also play some highly volitile like RIMM and maybe make some money. just a thought...
LFCM on bid now. gooood....
LEHJQ - I was in WAMKQ at $.14 and it is $2.41 now. Lehman just announced $45 billion in NOL that is an asset. Much more potential than WAMKQ. The reward is worth the risk...
LEHJQ going from $.06 to $2.50+ like WAMKQ imo...
Lehman Has $48 Billion in Operating Loss Tax Benefits (Update1)
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I sold 100 @$5/share the other day to my surprise. I wonder if something is about to happen?
wonder what is going on here. 781 shares @ 2.50/share? really curious...
I think the Feb $4 calls are a steal now at .03x.04. 5 weeks to exp...
well it looks like if someone wanted to sell they could get out at .03 right now; maybe most know it's better to hold this one...
somebody po'd at you on SPHE board...
C $4 feb calls do not make sense...
the experts were our worst enemy last year. I have heard rumors pointed in every direction. we have about a $6/share book value. follow your position with a reasonable stop loss and you may just be up 50% before any correction, if any.
78,762 @ $.022
interesting, maybe so...
TDGI is a r/m and has assets worth about $.13/share. How do you think they pick stocks to short? You don't know much about this do you? Must be one of your first stocks. Have you ever read Panetta's board? Have you ever seen some of the SEC's rulings against NITE (nothing to do with this discussion anyway, that was bright)? Do a google search for LFCM and read about them a little. I think your logic may be a bit confused...
The SEC has been under a lot of heat this year because of all the corruption that has surfaced. In the last few months the replies from sec complaints has been next-day, as was this one. I'm not expecting them to fix everything but it makes me feel better just to bitch at them from time to time and hope they put a little more pressure on keeping things legal. I have no idea what LFCM and VERT are up to and probably never will. It took me a few seconds to fire off an email, why not...
If TDGI was being illegally naked shorted I'm not sure they would be on the Reg Sho list. Rules are for those who play fair. Rain may be correct though. It does seem coincedental that LFCN was not active today, just after an SEC complaint.
wonder where LFCM was today? Wonder if he was naked shorting?
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can't believe it. I had a GTC sell in for a couple of hundred GREM @ $4.95 and 100 went off today at $5...
I'm sure this is just a coincidence but since I emailed the SEC about LFCM we have not seen him active today...
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If you put GTC for $10 and it spiked to $.40 you can always change your order to $.40. An if you weren't watching and it sold at $10 it wouldn't make you mad would it?....
you can also put in a GTC sell away from the market to lock your shares from being loaned...