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“Should I go with the company that can deliver today, or one that can’t?”
You just said spiber is private…so it’s Kblb or nothing…
And how much has spiber actually delivered?…sure they rented booths at trade shows…and certain Japanese companies have said they have used brewer proteins in small fractions of their clothings, generating how much revenue?…
Exactly…no one knows…spiber may actually one day get it together with the help of all the Japanese companies assisting them…but as of yet, they really haven’t done anything…
“Hard decision, to be sure”
There is only one choice…and you have already made it…but you don’t sound the least bit confident in your decision… if I felt that way, I would sell it all…
“Accept all of the confident predictions of what KBLB now plans to do;”
I do…there will still be the occasional issues, but there will still be progress…
“ignore all of the confident predictions KBLB made in the past and never accomplished”
I ignored them then…why wouldn’t I now?…
“Ignore the fact that bivoltine strains produce two crops of silk per year, while polyvoltine crops produce several more crops per year.”
Yup…I certainly will ignore this nonsense…
“I see a change in KBLB’s PRs recently”
It’s a huge change in content…
“ I saw a change in KBLB’s PRs in 2019.”
I didn’t…
“We got month-by-month reports of the scaling process in Vietnam.”
And I didn’t believe they were ready yet…I was in a wait and see mode…
“Things were looking great.”
I didn’t think so…I never bought into the idea that simply being in vietnam would solve the problem…I didn’t believe that the issue at the previous pilot facility was a lack of proper infrastructure…
“Until they didn’t. ”
It was very predictable…
“Will this time different?”
It already is…
“ I can’t be sure.”
I own a ton of shares and am still buying…
“I’ll sit where I’m at: Hopeful, not certain.”
Many believed when they shouldn’t have… I didn’t…
I do now…
The whole concept of green energy is becoming a joke….it seems hydrogen won’t work unless companies get huge gov welfare checks to make it doable…but then, once they are able to make a go of it, they will be asking for more welfare money to make fueling stations a reality…smh
Of course EV’s are fine…but detractors say you can’t drive across the US with them…I never even envisioned driving an EV out of town…it’s just stupid…they are around town daily commuting vehicles until the battery range gets better…HELLO!…
And in a few years, the battery range will be around a thousand miles…and that will be enough…
But many right now, want to throw the baby out with the bath water cause we ain’t quite there yet…
Hydrogen might see its day when they start pumping it out of the ground…but then you won’t need a lot of what fcel wants to do…and you won’t need nat gas, carbon capture, fcev or anything else…Exxon will be the only real winner…
But as I have said, the Fed Gov needs to shitcan everything except wind, solar and nuclear…ALL the money should go there…
That’s nice…maybe they can frame them on hang them on a wall…
“ Just last year, they created a comprehensive database of spider silk protein gene sequences. ”
I was wondering what they did with that $900 mil they were given….lol
“Goo fiber protein they say has some of the same properties as spyder silk.”
That was the claim when they were actually trying to create goo spider silk…ever since they pivoted over to “brewed protein fiber”, they no longer make any such claims…
The closest they come is saying some of their material has “silk like” qualities…
Not spider silk…and just “silk like”…
If you have recent info that states that spiber is continuing to pursue spider silk, I’m all ears…
"You said yourself the market for the product is so vast no one company could satisfy the demand by themselves so what’s the big deal?"
yea...the demand for SPIDER SILK....spiber isnt making or even TRYING to make spider silk...they are making goo protein fiber...
"I just believe there is a plaace for goo and spyder silk."
there is a place for goo...but it isnt with spider silk..its with Fruit of the Loom...you might want to check to see if theres a Fruit of the Loom message board where you can tell them about the existence of goo fiber that might compete with them...
"Instead of plain statements, we get qualifications."
look at the content of the pr's not the delivery...look at the totality of the pr's not just the portion of the ones that you want to see as problematic...
the pr's that say they have hired expert consultants, more scientists, made improvements in production that eliminated bottlenecks, shortened timelines, developed more robust worms with experts from India, actually produced 25 kilos of DS using those new techniques proving the production process etc etc etc....
you dont see a fundamental difference in the CONTENT of the pr's??...
"Instead of plain statements, we get qualifications."
there will ALWAYS be some qualifications...the fundamental difference in pr's isnt the manner in which they are written or the font that was used...the difference is in the CONTENT which expresses PROGRESS and CONFIDENCE....
" But we have never been terribly sure of what the term ‘metric ton production’ means. Does that mean they plan to achieve a total of one metric ton of silk by the end of 2024, or they plan to achieve a production rate of one metric ton per month (or per production cycle)?"
i have been quite sure of what "metric ton production means" ever since kim defined it...from the letter to shareholder in 12-14-22:
"We remain confident that implementing these processes and technologies is the best path to successfully grow our production output to match the targeted metric ton per month levels we have contracted with them to produce by late 2023."
that was and has always been the goal...metric ton per month and building from there...
" Does that mean they plan to achieve a total of one metric ton of silk by the end of 2024"
SMH...utterly ludicrous...
"Is the new BAM 1 strain bivoltine or polyvoltine or a cross between the two types?"
i dont care if its ovaltine...just so long as they can sell it and make tons of money...
"Back in December I indicated the Dec. 14 PR might signal an inflection point. Before that date, the share prices had been dropping for a long time. After that date, I felt like we might see the share price on a rising trend. So far, I got that right."
you mean the pr that showed a photo of the 25 kilos of DS that proved the production process?....you thought that MIGHT be an inflection point?...wow...pat yourself on the back for that one....LOL
"My point was even Kblb spider silk is superior is it Really needed in a lot of applications?"
yea...if it is superior to what is currently being used...mouse traps work ok...but if you build a better one, people are not going to ask themselves if they really need a better one....they will just buy the better mouse trap....theres really nothing to question...
"Is it really cost effective?"
i dont know...whats the cost?...you gotta know the costs and be able to make a comparison before that question can be answered...
what we do know is that there are industries out there that want spider silk...the need exists...the demand is there...the Air Force sure as hell wants it...they said so...and the fact that they have been researching it for years says so...
why are you trying to plead spibers case here?...for what purpose?...to what end?...and why should anyone care?..
"Why all the negativity on the so called “goo” companies?"
because we keep getting updates on spiber's every move that have no relevance to kblb...spiber doesnt mean anything to kblb...any more than bolt threads does...when spiber was trying to make spidersilk out of goo, they were thought of as a POTENTIAL competitor...but they stopped pursuing spidersilk YEARS ago...they make a goo they call brewed protein and turn it into some kind of fiber...their big claim that they are banking on now is that it is supposedly a green product...otherwise, its not much of anything...
" Even though Kblb silk will be Superior do we really need pure spider silk in probably most applications."
pure spider silk, almost pure, kind pure, not so pure...who cares...we will make and sell what people want and they can do what they want with it...
" If we do get the DOD money and I mean if do they really need pure spyder silk in most of their uses for their product?"
yes, no, maybe...WHO CARES?...we will give them whatever they decide they want and they will pay through the nose for it...
"Some things definitely yes but I’m sure many uses goo will Be just as useful."
to the military??...i highly doubt that...to Fruit of the Loom?..maybe...
"There are niches for both kinds of silk."
spiber isnt making silk...they are making fiber out of goo...
the pop we had in May had no build up...it was a straight vertical pop that hit its peak within a few days...then came a steady drop...the technicals all maxed out right away...
the pop in Dec was a bit more gradual but peaked in about 5 days and the technicals maxed out as well...
this rise has been about 3 weeks in the making, hasnt yet peaked and the technicals are not yet maxed out...i like the look of this move...except of course, for the volume....but that will come with the right news...OR penny players will see what i am seeing and will come to partake in the move...
i mentioned the cup that was forming...well, actually it HAS formed..but the stock may just say to hell with the cup and just take off to .07...OR, and this would be my preference, the handle will begin to form causing the pps to drop a bit...i could then add a few shares and the technicals could reset and then the stock can head up to .07...
i think either way, no matter what, the pps is headed to .07...but .07 should be pretty tough resistence...same with .10 and .20...after that, there really isnt anything much until .50...
"Well, I’m not a fan of TA on low volume stocks"
me either...if you are not familiar with the stock...but ive been here over ten years...like anything else you do over a long period of time, you kinda get better at it...
and all im doing is looking at the pattern forming...its right there in the chart...im not divining anything from the chart...im just looking at the pattern...and when i look at the chart, there it is...it looks exactly like the typical cup pattern but without the handle yet...
"but it’s nice to hear that you’re seeing a bullish pattern."
you dont see the cup?...
We might not be finished making the cup yet, but we have a cup…next week should be a handle…
Unless we get great news and the pps just says to hell with the cup and just takes off to .07…
But if no news next week…the handle cometh…
"Who looks stupid now?"
its still you...lol
“You’re the idiot that said this would hit $.20 by the end of March.”
Did he say “would” or COULD…mighty big difference…I’m pretty sure he said COULD…so that DOES make you the idiot…
“It’s cheaper to buy the shares dumbass.”
I hope you were looking in the mirror when you said that…
It was only expressed as a WISH…and I seriously doubt he was hoping to be able to pay more for the options than the shares themselves cost…
SMGDH
Quit trying so hard to make everything negative…you just make yourself look stupid…
“He’s Tweeking you huh”
Ive always suspected he was a tweaker…
If things continue as they are, I think we could work our way to .07….but if we get some decent news along the way, we could hit a dime….with significant news, .20 or more…by the end of Q1…
for the amusement of some, i want to say that the charts are looking good....another golden cross is imminent...the last cross had some artificial help...this one doesnt...
it appears to me that a cup is forming to produce a cup and handle...but that remains to be seen...
the psar flipped last week which is positive...the pps looks like it doesnt want to drop below .04 anymore...
several other tech signals are positive that i wont bore anyone with...
what we really need is news that will bring more eyes to this stock and more investors...volume needs to be higher...
to the moon wont happen at any certain point...it is the goal though...i am anticipating a gradually rising pps with sustained pops along the way...i see a much higher pps by the end of the this quarter...
kim has been much more informative recently and is putting out pr's more frequently...this tells me he believes things are progressing and will continue to...hes got the right people who have worked together to produce the right worms to do the job...the photo of the 25 kilos of silk is proof that the worms work and so does the production process...now its all about building production to the level of tonnage....
news should keep coming about that production but so will news of other things as well...
“And anyone insisting anything ridiculous like reverse split bankruptcy or sub $1 is going to look more ignorant than what they already do.”
Talk about ignorant…lmao…
The low for the year is 0.98….the stock is currently in the 1.20’s…
It seems that the lower the pps drops, the more fabulous fcel looks??…
RS and sub 1 buck have been discussed because of the 500 mil shares fcel will be diluting from and the fact that fcel HAS dropped below a buck!…no one “insisting” on anything…
No one but you that is…you have always insisted that anyone not believing your fantasies is ignorant…at $29 per share, you called for the pps to hit $100….instead it steadily dropped to under a buck….but anyone talking about the pps going under a buck is ignorant???…
Lmao…it’s beyond me how someone who has been so dead wrong for so long can be arrogant enough to call anyone else ignorant…
SMH
You expect a positive reaction today, from news that came out yesterday morning??…
Plug down 6% so far… so no…probably not..
Smh
"Well there is a reason for the low volume. The PAST."
the market doesnt even know kblb exists...the only ones concerned about kblb's past are the few who continue to complain...the volume is crap...it has always been crap...100k or 1 mil in volume doesnt really matter...its crap either way...
" Hopefully KBLB is trying to regain trust in the market."
again...the "market" remains oblivious to kblb because they are a 4 cent penny stock on the OTC and have not yet succeeded...they have no mass production and no revenues...
YET...
“ It’s like 70 miles away from the lab. Who drives 70 miles to go pick up their mail?”
Beats me…and I don’t care…maybe they mail kblb’s mail to Kim…
The point is, it’s just like I said, slinger posts what he believes are “facts”, and then twists them and interprets them in the most negative way possible…
But that doesn’t make them accurate…
The “facts” can have an alternate explanation without having to dispute the actual “facts”….
so they have a large lab facility where all the work is done and all the employees work...kim and rice have offices there...but they dont want to have people showing up to the facility or have meetings where the dream is made...they are trying to keep the facility secure...so they pay for a separate place to hold meetings, conferences, get mail, reception services etc...
whats the problem?...
"I can’t imagine they would be there already without Kim announcing that."
when kim announced the Indian experts on Nov 27th, one of them was already overhauling the US operations which was supposed to last for 30 days...no telling how long he'd been there...but their next project was going to be overhauling kblb's overseas operations...
imo, the success of the small batch announced on Dec 14th would have been the signal that the overseas facilities were ready for the Indian experts...assuming they werent already involved in the production of that small batch...
"I can’t imagine they would be there already without Kim announcing that."
kim has recently developed a habit of announcing things only after they have happened...and thats a good thing imo...
as for other possible news, this is from Dec 6, almost 2 months ago:
"Senior management will also meet with hatcheries and spinners to look for opportunities to expand the Company’s integration into the supply chain and to vet additional production locations and partners, for 2024 and beyond."
news such as this wont catapult the stock price to all time highs, but it will get more eyes looking at us and raise the pps bit by bit...the more eyes we get, the more progress is seen, the bigger the impact will be when mass production is announced...or the spydasilk launch...or some other contract with a hopefully well known entity...
im hoping that we start getting a pr at least every week...
"If you didn’t click on the links, I recommend the effort."
i clicked on a few...all i saw was a pop up store that was open for a weekend and a handfull of clothing that was available online that was likely bought by employees, shareholders and a few curious industry insiders...
no amount of clothing, no amount of revenue generated, no testimonials, no nothing...just nothing much at all...thats all a far cry from how toyota was going to make cars with spibers product...or how that airplane manufacturer was going to build fabulous airliners with spibers product...instead we get that spiber sold a few sweaters and are attending trade shows...
let me know when spiber does something that comes anywhere near justifying $900 mil invested by venture caps...ill open that link...
I kinda think the Indian experts wanted kblb to produce a batch of DS in Vietnam to see how it comes out before they packed their bags and headed to s/e asia...I think that batch convinced the experts it was worth their while to head on down and oversee the start of mass production...
In the shareholder letter from Dec 22, kim stated that the Indian experts had " already brought much clarity to the hows and whys of past production shortcomings."...
and this is the caption from the pr a week prior that showed the silk that was made:
KRAIG BIOCRAFT LABORATORIES ANNOUNCES EARLY START TO PRODUCTION SEASON WITH SUCCESSFUL SMALL BATCH DELIVERY OF SPIDER SILK
another line in that same pr stated this:
"With this success, the Company is now accelerating its plans for the upcoming 2024 production season and beyond."
sounds to me like kim was saying they were already starting the production season...or would very soon....so my guess is that the "production season" is well underway and likely the experts are already there and have been for a while...
"If they’re as good as Kim indicated in the past, I’d like to see them wait for these guys before increasing on their own."
agreed...we are using their expertise and they are willing...no sense in moving forward without them...
the next news i expect to hear from kim about production is that they have more than quadrupled the previous batch and are extremely pleased with the product...
but i think the next news will be about a new facility in lam dong or a contract with Vietnam for eggs or licensing deal or something along those lines...maybe even a pr about the JV with the kings group becoming active again...
"You are never going to win an argument with people who don’t believe in facts."
sure...keep pretending thats whats going on....SMGDH
NO ONE has disputed any facts...whats being disputed is how those "facts" are being interpreted...the scenarios being concocted with those facts...the opinions being expressed based on those "facts"...
the idea that just because things have happened in the past, that they are likely to occur the same way in the future is an utterly flawed concept...
i recall an article where a woman stabbed her husband who later died....when asked why she killed him, she replied that she didnt try to kill him...when asked "what did you think was going to happen when you stabbed him?" she replied that she had stabbed him on 2 previous occasions and he never died!...
the woman was subscribing to the scenarios of the naysayers on this board...
if it happened before, it will surely happen again, the same way...
lmao
"Thanks for contributing more useful DD to the board."
spiber is going to a trade show....wow...thats really useful "DD" for kblb shareholders...
in what freaking way?...lmao
"How do you reach that conclusion after Spiber has several well-known companies using their products to produce and sell products?"
been hearing that for a few years now...aint seen jackshit for sale anywhere...no promotions, no advertising...nothing...
not much to show for the $900 mil they recieved from investors...
and much of the supposed business they are said to be involved in are just Japanese companies looking to help out another Japanese company...
ive been stating im all in and believe i will make a lot of money off my kblb investment while you state you sold all you owned and think kblb is a scam...so explain this bullshit:
"Oh , well Hell that’s sounds just like what you’ve been doing for years"
the Fed Gov calls BS on that article or podcast or whatever it was...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technology/biden-administration-makes-groundbreaking-announcement-about-the-future-of-ev-charging-reliability-and-resilience/ar-BB1hKxhw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8f89f3daa6864828a6a88c2e310fe923&ei=19
nothing like a big chunk of cash from the Feds to make a statement...
Oh I’m sure if Kblb hits, truth and all the rest will swear they never really sold or pretend they bought back at just the right time to profit handsomely…
They have the scruples of jackals…which means they have none…
“I'm posting articles these days….What i'm privy to other than that, feel free to speculate.”
I’m sure you have dug deeply into spiber and have discovered they are sucking hind tit…but you don’t want to reveal anything negative about a company you have been swearing is in “competition” with Kblb…plus you want to keep up the deception that they are competition when you know very well they are not…
I expected better from someone who calls himself “TRUISM” and claims to speak the truth…
Sure you are just posting articles, because you know the truth is that spiber is crap…
And I have no interest in the drama you have going with Kblb…apparently they think you are trash and have discarded you…
Oh well…deal with it..
"Cummins' NEW Hydrogen Engine Will DESTROY The EV Industry!"
lol
spiber has been to many shows...they have even sold stuff online and in pop up stores...
how about posting what they sold, how much they sold and what was the revenue?...
im pretty sure you know...
funny how you wont post that...
how about their contracts?..what are they worth?..
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