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Its stained,, believe what you will for your own purposes....So goes politics as the other side will believe as they will to
What's bad is the door was left open for the other side by not giving the case the respect it deserved.....
Was that anyone's point on the matter?....Its the staining of the case and the unprofessional manner in which Fani conducted herself.......
The case deserved Integrity.....Damage done
Fulton County DA Fani Willis case against Trump can continue if she or special prosecutor Wade remove themselves, judge rules
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna139810
........The judge also found there was no "actual conflict" brought about by the relationship, a finding that would have required Willis to be disqualified. "Without sufficient evidence that the District Attorney acquired a personal stake in the prosecution, or that her financial arrangements had any impact on the case, the Defendants’ claims of an actual conflict must be denied," the judge wrote.
“This finding is by no means an indication that the Court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the District Attorney’s testimony during the evidentiary hearing. Rather, it is the undersigned’s opinion that Georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict for simply making bad choices — even repeatedly — and it is the trial court’s duty to confine itself to the relevant issues and applicable law properly brought before it,” he added.
The judge did, however, also find “the prosecution is encumbered by an appearance of impropriety.” "As the case moves forward, reasonable members of the public could easily be left to wonder whether the financial exchanges have continued resulting in some form of benefit to the District Attorney, or even whether the romantic relationship has resumed," he wrote. "As long as Wade remains on the case, this unnecessary perception will persist."
McAfee made his decision,,,,,,The 2 sides will both still make hay though.....Im sure Wade and Willis will do the right thing.......
Janice,,,,,Those old talking points of being a corporate and big money election apologists, you used to use no longer work now, so you have little to say.....And thats probably dems biggest mistake,,,,,,,, Not understanding times had changed......
He just wants to blame the Dems for everything that isn't going his way. I just don't understand why.
You understand just fine........Call it stubborn pride or just people living in a bubble, its easier not to admit fault and thats human nature.......Sadly, people will ride it all the way down more often than not........
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A key part of cognitive dissonance is the psychological tension created when previously held attitudes conflict with new information, explains Ashwini Nadkarni, M.D., the associate vice chair of wellness and assistant medical director of psychiatric
People with cognitive dissonance may experience?, according to Dr. Scott:
Embarrassment over feeling wrong about the beliefs they previously held
Shame or regret about past actions or decisions
Guilt for hiding or something they believe is wrong
Discomfort for doing something that contradicts what they believe
What Is Cognitive Dissonance? Signs, Symptoms And Triggers
https://www.forbes.com/health/mind/what-is-cognitive-dissonance/
Cue 'Times they are a changing'.....Dems should have figured out times had changed and why, 3 yrs ago......The People whom you accuse of cognitive dissonance don't suffer from it, dems do and have.....Its why you can no longer debate..
Nope, pointed out the repubs and what they do....... you may have noticed a term I use pretty often, RWnuts...
Its just amazing how dems keep feeding it, I never could have foreseen it....CO was another, as said before....
Even then I saw the corporate mess coming,,,,,,,Dads company went straight to outsourcing and downsizing....The new wave CEO got millions in bonuses and stock.....As is the corporate way since and now...
We also talked about the unspoken contract between workers and corps......That went out the window with the end of stakeholder theory and Shareholder Theory began....
Then to bring us up to date, dems jumped in the fun.....You had that 50 trillion dollar transfer of wealth,,,,now, not just the people who felt consequences of it all along.......The consequences have surfaced and effect you too....All all of us
No fun now is it,,,in the end I don't think folks will think it worth it
The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%—And That’s Made the U.S. Less Secure
https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/
That explanation of not to indict caused a lot of raucous,,,,, Not just for biden,,,but the right plays it 'they let Biden off the hook'.....
Its just another muddled case now.......Had Biden just been a victim of staffing and moving boxes as was declared for over a year by dems, it would all be different,,,,But dems 'fibbed and so did biden, thats what heats the water...
Call it an unforced error
Grew up around Ohio State University...... N High St was the place to be on the weekends....
I had actually hoped you collage types would step it up over the last three years.....So its not like you didn't have your chance.....
No, he had a case, but wasn't sure he could get a conviction,,,,,Hence his explanation of why he didn't go ahead..
Wrong doing was found, he knowingly and willingly kept docs and shared them with the writer........
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And........I fully believe DOJ should have used the Mueller report to indict as soon as trump left.....Might have saved a lot of grief considering.......Instead we are were we are....
Playing the gaslighting game ;) It had nothing to do with FDR....
I said that too.............Biden's biggest mistake was telling his ghostwriter about the docs and the writer deleting audio about it.......He knowingly keep it and referenced it for the book.....Afghan related
It happens everyday,,,post some facts here or the news reports on the facts of the Hur case (ie) and dems sure enough go to lengths
And I might add, go to lengths and try and discredit credible sources and facts....Its beyond ridiculous, even dangerous now..."
Need a link for the circus of dem (and repub) politicians trying to twist the facts at the Hur hearing,,,,,or the spin afterwards.........And how it inflames division on top of it....
Its sport now, facts be damned,,,,,,,,
Yeah, Biden kinda a fibbed a little eh....Only on the most important facts though ;)
GN
You need links to write lists for you? Sure see a lot of opinion posted and when I need links to confirm facts that is easy.....Hope the opinion isn't censored though, but that would prove yet another point about dems too ;)
Dems just didn't step up to the times
Mueller, A case in point on how dems over state and end up with egg on their political face...
Instead of half the charges dems have charged him with, those were ignored although the investigation was done....Charging trump with anything is now a political circus (with added dem folly) and that/Mueller helped set the foundation...
Dem touting falls on deaf ears now because of over stating their outrage to the point nausea on issue after issue....All during the people's concerned are ignored......Dems obsession made things worse, action to meet the times would have made him a non issue and footnote.......Wake call answered........................Nope
Saw that but my list keeps dems from gaining ground against your list......
Look at the list you posted....That guy is beating you.....Dems have had 3yrs to wake the f up....
No, its not simple but is it simplistic.......Current events look just as bad for dems..
Add a general tone deafness that persists, political maneuvering continuing and election rhetoric kicking in....Its the same old, same old and its painfully obvious and even glaring to people now, its what sickens them about politics.....Only this time and in these times of all times people get added bonus of missteps along the way that stain the party dem, biden and all to often fuel the political divide.......Its all thing you can't change at a time change is needed and dems grow almost desperate to change the subject daily and come up with new spin and distractions,,,,,,,And that has become glaringly obvious now too.......
Biden running when 70% didn't want him to.
His age catching up with him
Touting worthless economic statistics
The border stunt that didn't work
Colorado,
Over the top sotu speech
The truth about Biden's docs
Georgia circus continuing
And more us against them language
Simple? No,,,,,,,,,,But its not complicated either
Dems have and are doing that as we speak.....1 dollar an hour labor overseas with no benefits or protections and flooding the country with cheap labor who have no benefits or protections .......
Sorry, Urban Coastal Elites that are out of touch with probably 60% of the country... Whoever coined the Urban Coastal Elite thing nailed it pretty good
Proof is in the pudding as they say,,,,2 things can be right, but they aren't..... Dems are the ones that sold the working class out.......Maybe if you hadn't helped sell off American industry out from under the country and became rich, you may have an argument..... Dems became rich by selling out their old constituents, and taking the new technologies for themselves.......
Two things can't be true in this case, you can't be the arsonist that started the fire and say you want to help by throwing more fuel on it... O for 2 as it stands today....And it maintained the last three years as the third straight K shaped recovery the country has endured is still on going....
F up the middle and working class, call them a slew of names then bitch they no longer like you and wont vote for you...You created this scenerio, now we are all feeling the consequences..... Especially in politics (not that literally as in economically doesn't apply too)..........The least you could do is say is.....oops.
Now its the Urban Coastal Elites that can stuff it, as all too many see it...
Dramatic realignment swings working-class districts toward GOP
https://www.axios.com/2023/04/12/house-democrats-winning-wealthier-districts-middle-class-gop
Nine of the top 10 wealthiest congressional districts are represented by Democrats, while Republicans now represent most of the poorer half of the country, according to median income data provided by Rep. Marcy Kaptur's (D-Ohio) office.
Why it matters: The last several decades have ushered in a dramatic political realignment, as the GOP has broadened its appeal to a more diverse working class and Democrats have become the party of wealthier, more-educated voters.
Was lucky... the US 'was' lucky to have the dems....Its an off and on relationship they have with this country..... After they quit being the racist party of the south (off) and joined the progressive repubs from Teddy's movement taking up for workers and fighting the greed of big business (on) they turned off again during the 70s and 80s....
Now they represent the rich (back to the 9 out of 10) and take as much corporate cash they can get their hands on...
So 'was lucky', now they are part of the problem, call it 50% of the problem as we are a 2 party country whether we like it or not........Dems just feed off division like the other side and do nothing except pander to their base, just like the other party........
So then you say, bbbbbbut we are the least of the 2 evils, you have to vote for us. Attitudes like that only lead to more trouble.....Keeping you in the Not so Lucky category....... Just pure arrogance thats matched by the other team.....
Sweeping generalizations like,,,,,All Trump voters are racist, All red states are shitholes, Anyone that disagrees with border policy makes one a bigot a bigot.....All people that disagree with trans athletes you're trans phobic.....Free speech......... The list is long about progressives and 'their sweeping generalizations....
The generalization about progressives that they are way out of line and just plain nuts now, have far too much power as opposed to the other 85% of the country and are to far too narrow in their perceived needs for the country as a Whole....Fits like a glove...So the generalization of progressives seems to fit much better than theirs of everyone else, whom they've accused of just about everything.......
Note the writing about progressives of the past I posted.....The key to their success over the yrs was they had a broad range of issues about a broad range of people...Not so these days....
Progressives everybody is wrong and we're the only ones right just doesn't hold any weight.....According to progressives everyone is wrong about everything....Which people are responding to with Really?! Given dems are down to 25% and progressives are less than half of that, they may what to rethink their tactics and extreme views. But they go on to just ignore all facts to the contrary of their talking points, just like the extreme of the other party.....
My bad girl, I was focused on Biden and Trump.....You are right...
Yep, on that note Ill bid you a good night......
Good, nor the core of the case but its a black eye on top of the disqualification hearing and judgement to come...
Either way, it has been complete political fodder for the other side and calls into question the integrity of the DA and the competence of.........
On to Fani and Wade today.....As 6 counts were dropped, it looked none to good on the prosecution, definitely another embarrassment....... Fani is the DA, Wade the lead prosecutor on the case...I hope they weren't too distracted by something that they hurt the case.......Keep it up and people will begin say the people of Fulton Co didn't get their money's worth....
Mueller didn't indict anyone, nor did anyone use his investigation and report to indict... Although it seems he had 10 good cases of obstruction laid out if garland chose to pick it up...
Hur did and investigation and a report....One' reason he didn't indict is he knows it hard to convict a middle 80yr old person period, much rather one with a bad memory........
Oh contraire...There are independent boards....(Not here) where people speak in something other than talking point language and have reasonable 'Conversations' about both parties, current events....Some have come here to see for themselves to see about this one....
Hur's reputation is that of Mueller's.... Anyone credible at all stated that his reputation is very professional., especially after yesterday day..... Both parties look like the repubs after Vindman back in that day....If he was a hack as you say, he would have indicted joe just to be a partisan.......McAfee next on the hit list?
That what I said about comer.....Dems overstate constantly too....We've just been using the example of how you overstated Joes innocence on the doc case....And Hunter too.....for 2...
Seems to be the way with politics in this era,,,Overstate! Continue to do so until its either anticlimactic or the truth comes out...Either way then its off to change the subject and move to the next outrage. And I might add, go to lengths and try and discredit credible sources and facts....Its beyond ridiculous, even dangerous now...
Nope, pay attention.....Joe's book had Afghanistan in it, thats what the docs were about and Joe was caught on tape talking with the ghost writer about them.....
Believe the ghostwriter saw them too or at least one......The ghost writer also deleted some audio after Hur contacted them,,,,,,,,
Dems talk a lot, seem to know little other than what the other dems say though
Joe made his money off classified docs ;) Writing his book....... But Hunter was ass to.....Dad only got on phone calls (some 20 times) and a couple dinners.....There is No paper trail to Joe getting any money.....
Comer continued to overstate things till he now has no credibility...... Dems have fallen short overstating things too and their credibility is waning.....
Probably right about Dad,,,the whole thread goes to politics at play, dems misinforming an not being above board....
Like dad did do wrong and hunter did....took years to get to the truth about both and all the time dems were firm that there was nothing to see.....
But since we keep getting surprised, never know about dad either I guess
Here, transcripts can't beat video....
I hope Biden doesn't look so stupid
Hur noted being there was important to his determination..... transcripts show the words and all the prompting Joe needed......Video will show the whole story.....
Till then dems will spin the best they can as they do
When the video is released it will confirm or clear up the report....If it is contrary to the report, I would image Biden would release it immediately........
Somehow I'd bet Hur has more credibility than The Empty Wheel...Lol
Is that where dems get their info to post....Send it to MSNBC, they'll report it
Hunter demanded a public hearing because of 'false facts'.....Bottom line he doesn't want the fact spoken in such a public way.....Good thing independents didn't listen to the dems, they'd be very uninformed..... I imagine that's the way they want to keep it....
They mention the millions and shell companies etc
Progressives
Hunter wanted a public hearing,,,,Now its no....
Can't say I blame him, the public would learn more than the press they watch and Biden doesn't need another hit....Even with half the room building him up,,,Now its a no after asking explicitly for a public hearing.....Demanding even...
Hunter Biden declines invitation to testify on Capitol Hill
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/13/politics/hunter-biden-house-oversight-committee/index.html
WATCH: Hunter Biden demands public hearing, condemns Republican investigation for ‘false facts’
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/hunter-biden-defies-congressional-subpoena-for-closed-door-gop-deposition-says-hell-only-testify-in-public-hearings