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WSM,
I heard about this stock on another board. I bought it because of the chance to buy into the growth in vietnam.
I would say that I was seeing this as risky already then, and I did not take a large position for the same reason.
Now, I am thinking, that with a presumeably respectable construction company in vietnam in one end, and this certificate printing machine in the other end, maybe this link between the to entities might not be so real after all.
I wanted to hear your thougts about the possibility. And I think John explained very well how these things work.
I am not in the habit of selling just because of a little negative price action, and I am prepared to wait it out.
Thanks, John, for your thoughts.
2225 kr for en asus Eee
Den har heller ikke specs som en business pc, - 7" skærm, men med en vægt under 1 kg har den selvfølgelig en attraktion.
http://www.edbbiksen.dk/shop/asus-eeepc-4g-17927p.html
http://www.prcdata.dk/produkt/asus-eee-pc-4g/84951360/ref/62/
You guys, John and WSM, seems like fairly experienced guys, you have seen when it and how it goes wrong ?
I cant really rid myself of the thought that the whole thing is a scam. I own the shares, from before the delisting, but do I really own a part of a vietnamese construction company ???
I have never at any point felt like I was regarded as a shareholder by the company. They just print and sell shares with no regard for existing investors. This feels like a vehicle for cheating (naive) investors away from their money.
Is this link to a real company in vietnam just fictitious ?
Do we have any saying on tis company ? Is there for example a general assembly where shareholders could raise their voice and select a new board? (I guess not, but I have invested in companies where this was actually the case)
jo, jo, men linux er jo heller ikke det samme som windows.
Det ved du selvfølgelig godt. Men det kan godt være en barriere ikke at have adgang til Microsoft excel, word og outlook, selv om der findes udmærkede alternativer under linux.
jeg betragter mig selv som rimeligt erfaren indenfor området og jeg kan ikke se hvordan jeg kan klare mig uden microsoft produkterne.
så monopolet er en faktisk realitet.
Denne her dodge journey bliver markedsført kraftigt med radio reklamer etc.
Det er noget nyt synes jeg, at amerikanske biler sådan markedsføres i DK. Det må være den lave dollar der gør det muligt, eller commercielt interessant.
http://www.dodge.dk/
Den er ikke så smart men den har da nogle kraftige data, 2,4 liter motor...
Der er meget der stiger rundt omkring, men der er altså også meget der falder.
Jeg har ikke nogen klare ideer, men alle aktier som man har tænkt på at købe men ikke fået købt, ser ud til at stige.
Hvad med Japan, jeg synes det begynder at se positivt ud der, men det er nok for de tålmodige. Japanske maskienr og construction.
Men jeg har ikke ledig kapital, så jeg kigger bare.
Jamen så tjener du jo alle pengene på aktier oveni!
Ja, det kan du jo have ret i.
Selv ville jeg da også have foretrukket en lav rente. Og så skulle det selvfølgelig være en man kunne stole på ville forblive lav.
Men sådan kan det jo ikke gå med den inflation vi har. Så jeg har indrettet låntagningen efter det.
Er inflation god for landbrug og industri ?
Der er jo det gode ved den at den kan skære værdien ud af de høje lønstigninger der bliver givet nu.
Vi skal have de europæiske renter op, så vi kan konvertere vores fastforrentede lån.
(jeg har stadig fast ejendom - jeg har den jo for at bo der...)
De ser faktisk ud til at have markant forbedrede resultater i forhold til forrige år, så det er lidt utroligt at det går så hårdt for sig.
Wagon plc - Unaudited preliminary results for the year ended 31 March 2008
- Revenues^ from ongoing activities up 9%, with trading volumes slightly ahead of expectations;
- Restructuring completed within plan, benefits apparent in increased underlying operating margin to 3.6% but further improvement required;
- Underlying operating profit* and profit before tax* have made significant progress;
- Significantly improved order intake, up 30%, will benefit year 2009/10 and beyond;
- Model changeovers and anticipated weaker OEM demand expected to impact volumes in 2008/9;
- Proposed refinancing announced today, including new banking facilities, a rights issue and a sale and leaseback of two German freehold properties.
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/IFSPages/MarketNewsPopup.aspx?id=1860438&source=RNS
Wagon, engelsk aktie som leverer til bilindustrien er gået helt i dørken..
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=WAGN.L&t=1y
Den skal have ny financiering og muligvis delistes til AIM markedet (det er ikke til at gennemskue det der legal english)
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?ti=WAGN
Ha, ha, jeg chckede lige min beholdning. Af de unoterede var det mest OB aktier.
Og mine PK var allesammen med grimme tab, så det er nok en god ide hvis de lukker
Det er da irriterende, jeg har porten fuld af dem....
Er der andre steder mna kan handle PK ?
Mon også det gælder OB aktier ?
Men der er også nogen der falder
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jeg taber penge igen idag - det er ikke olieservice aktiernes dage
Jeg synes der er en ret massiv rotation væk fra oil and gas service is markedet til aften.
Nasdaq stiger, men oil and gas equipment and service taber 3,7%
Og jeg går med.
Og grave maskiner skulle de også bruge, så der må også være nogle maskinaktier der får gavn...
Nej, Spengler, det er lånte fjer. jeg har købt bogen og givet den i gave til min bror, iøvrigt på engelsk, men den tyske titel lyder så meget bedre.
Udover at den vestlige kultur kommer til at forsvinde ligesom andre kulturer før den, kan jeg ikke rigtigt gengive bogen...
Han er vist også skeptisk over for demokrati som styreform
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West
Gulliver har jeg dog læst - den var ikke så svær (Jonathan Swift)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver's_Travels
Problemet er stadig, at så længe alle tror at der er recession, og at den amerikanske nedgang trækker verdensøkonomien ned, så kan aktierne ikke stige.
Der er ingen købere.
Der untergang des abendlandes
Gulliver i lilleputternes land.
Var det nu termodynamikkens 2. eller 3. lov, den om entropien ?
Den der lyder, "til sidst står vi i lort til halsen"
så må vandaktier jo også være sagen. Når man kan lave brint af det ?
Så kan vi bruge vand til bilerne, og de fattige må ikke drikke det for det skal bruges til vores biler.
I agree, the company has done a poor job.
I bought this stock a good while ago, and now it is worth so little there is no point selling it. As a principle I do not buy big positions, so in dollar terms the loss is still manageable, and I can wait for better times, or bankruptcy, which I intend to do.
I was just surprised that you as the moderator of the board appear to be so negative towards the stock.
I think there should be room for good news also. And, of course, a critical stance whether those good news are of any substance.
Being a long in this stock I still intend to give it a chance - patience usually pays.
Are you a paid basher, Frankie ?
Det vendte jo rimelig hurtigt, fra et pænt plus til et pænt minus
Og de der bankfolk ved ingenting, det er klart. Når det gør ondt på bankerne så skal det gøe ondt på alle!!
Jeg var til at lille foredrag idag, af Marcus Wallenberg, chairman for SEB banken og ud af en RIG svensk familie.
Han mente at vi kun er ved begyndelsen af kreditkrisen og at nedturen vil være alvorlig i vores del af verden og først bunde ud i 2009...
Men det kan jo være vi kan snyde ham der.
Wallenberg familien ejer også Atlas Copco og det er ellers en virksomhed der nyder rigtig godt af det globale ressourceboom.
345% gevinst på james river coal nu.
Nu må den der kulboble da snart springe.
Det er jo skægt nok at LTXX falder med 8% samtidig med at de taler om fremgang
jeg er ikke glad for sushi, men jeg kan rigtig godt lide tempura.
Åh nej, nu troede jeg lige at japan var fin...
Japan Stocks Fall Most in Two Months on Concern Banks to Post More Losses Japan's stocks fell, set for the biggest drop in two months, after Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. said profit growth will stall, fueling concern the slowing economy will diminish lending demand.
Japan Stocks Slump Most in Two Months, Led by Banks, Insurance
By Masaki Kondo
May 21 (Bloomberg) -- Japan's stocks fell, set for the biggest drop in two months, after Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. said profit growth will stall, fueling concern the slowing economy will diminish lending demand.
Mitsubishi UFJ, the nation's biggest publicly traded bank, sank to a one-month low, while Mizuho Financial Group Inc., the Japanese bank with the biggest losses related to U.S. mortgages, fell the most in two weeks. Orix Corp., Japan's largest non-bank financial company, tumbled the most in two weeks.
``I can't see signs of a recovery in banking,'' said Yoji Takeda, who helps manage the equivalent of $1.1 billion in Asian funds at RBC Investment (Asia) Ltd. in Hong Kong. ``Banks will probably have to build up provisions for loan defaults as Japan's economy will likely remain bearish for at least this year.''
The Nikkei 225 Stock Average dropped 300.85, or 2.1 percent, to 13,859.24 as of 1:51 p.m. in Tokyo. The broader Topix index fell 36.95, or 2.6 percent to 1,362.89, set for the sharpest drop since March 17.
Mitsubishi UFJ yesterday predicted profit that fell short of analysts' estimates as it expects lending to stagnate. The forecast coincided with Bank of Japan Governor Masaaki Shirakawa saying Japan's economy ``is clearly slowing'' and inflation risk is rising globally as oil prices soar.
`Unjustified' Price
The shares sank 5.1 percent to 1,001 yen, headed for the lowest since April 24. Mizuho, the nation's second-biggest bank by sales, fell 4.8 percent to 515,000 yen and was most the actively traded stock by value on the first section of the exchange. Orix dived 5.5 percent to 17,610 yen.
T&D Holdings Inc., Japan's second-largest publicly traded insurer, tumbled 6.9 percent to 6,470 yen, while Sompo Japan Insurance Inc. lost 5.9 percent to 1,077 yen. Larger competitor Millea Holdings Inc. slumped 4 percent to 4,130 yen.
HSBC Holdings Plc yesterday downgraded T&D after the insurer reported lower earnings, due in part to valuation losses of securities. The current share price is ``unjustified,'' HSBC analyst Seewon Oh wrote in a report.
Canon Inc., which gets a third of its sales from the Americas, fell 3.9 percent to 5,440 yen and Toyota Motor Corp., which gets about a half of its profit from North America, lost 3.9 percent to 5,210 yen. Sony Corp., the world's second-biggest maker of consumer electronics, dropped 2.7 percent to 5,020 yen.
The yen appreciated against the dollar to as much as 103.15 today, the strongest since May 9, from 104.04 at the close of stock trading yesterday. A stronger Japanese currency reduces the value of overseas sales.
Nikkei futures expiring in June retreated 2.4 percent to 13,860 in Osaka and slumped 2.3 percent to 13,865 in Singapore.
To contact the reporter for this story: Masaki Kondo in Tokyo at mkondo3@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: May 21, 2008 01:20 EDT
De japanske er ialtfald billige.
Og de har artet sig rigtig pænt på det sidste.
måske...
men tror du at job/ansættelses området boomer ?
jeg ville være meget usikker. bankerne ansætter næppe folk i øjeblikket.
hvis du kunne finde et bureau der specialiserer sig i mine-ingeniører, måske
de der kulaktier som le nævnte for ca et halvt år siden har da godt nok været noget af det bedre.
ICO - steget 86%, stiger pænt idag
JRCC - steget 293%
så har dollar faldet taget lidt af det, men stadig en god handel!
woa, skal vi nu til at købe insurance alligevel ?
ligesom buffett
hvad med peter gaselle ? var det ikke også noget i den retning ?
det havde været federe at sælge dem for et par uger siden, men jeg er enig, det ser ikke så interessant ud lige i øjeblikket.
Jeg var kommet til at købe AIG da den var i bund forrige gang, men nu er den dernede igen, ja lidt lavere faktisk, så den røg igår.
Skuffende resultat for Hardinge. De giver unfavorable valutakursudsving skylden for alle problemer.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080508/nyth059.html?.v=101