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It also means that someone took the 3 billion restricted shares. Which is good I guess. I think he/she will have some kind of guarantee that there will be no R/S
what's the point of selling at 0.00001? You got a 100 dollars for your 10 million, now what?
The company was most definetely not after everyones shares in the past year.
They created around 16 billion of new shares, most of those were dumped on the market to raise money. ( or write of debts)
Since then, we have no bid and 0.0001 ask. If they wanted to buy shares, they could have at 0.0001, as many as they wanted. There was no need for silly PRs, there were shares enough. But they did not. There have been no big buyers in the whole period where we had 0 bid.
Nope, there are some official documents filed with the crc
Indeed, we have in writing that at some point we owned 15.4%. We do not have any recent information however.
15.4%
Good one! LOL
We do hold something valuable. The growth that TFN had in 2007 shows that in hard numbers. This is all prior to the UK stuff and prior to any deal in other countries. If we would get in the US in 2008, the growth will be much more than 300%. BKMP will be worth at least 0.001, even with a 30B O/S.
The only danger I see is Samai. We do not need anything else. All dilution should be avoided. We don't need Happy Encounters or anything else. We just need to wait for TFN to grow. If Samai wants to continue his HE plans, he will have to dilute more and R/S.
If your company grows at 300% a year and your recently started doing business in the UK and you have a great outlook for more growth... maybe I would be interested.
I think it was mainly because they were only active in canada in 2007... These are the revenues of TFN, which means all revenues.
I do realize that 10X the revenue is a high valuation.
You would normally need profit to canculate the valuation.
However, there is no profit yet.
So it that case, revenue and growth could give an indication. 10X is huge, but the growth is also huge.
You think they would sell TFN to you if you gave them 16 million? I think that might be even a valuation that is too low.
AND: these are the 2007 numbers. In the end they had 370K subsribers, and they started with a 100K. So the major part of the revenue is coming from the end of the year.
2008 they start with 350K subscribers and growing. So you can expect that the revenue will be much highter in 2008.
I did ... the market value can be 10x the revenue, certainly for such a fast growing company.
So BKMP market value should be around 2.5 million.
And remember we have 'Happy Encounters'!!!
Thanks for posting those.
So TFN grew about 300% in '07.
That is some pretty nice growth.
We will have to be very patient here. 1.6 million could justify a market cap of 16 million, which means BKMP is more or less correctly valuated at this point in time.
Of course, this is without the UK. If this growth holds on, things will become more worth soon. If a USA deal would happen... well, that would be very nice.
you mean they will develop a website for BKMP? Man, that is huge!!!
we(you) are talking about it for a loooooong time... maybe we should stop talking about it until it happens
I don't see why a TFN IPO would 'pay off' BKMP.
If TFN goes IPO, BKMP would own shares in a public company.
That would be good for us, because we would be able to determine exactly what the assets of BKMP is worth.
Is there anyone going for the 1 year guarantee?
Probably not, all the believers are so confident they probably take the 2 year deal. It doubles your money, right?
This is a very common mistake for non-native english people. So I would't worry about that.
btw: the 30 billion os includes the 8 billion restricted.
who would have thought that our only hope would be 8 billion shares becoming available?
0.0001? Is this scam over?
maybe if people could by shares of you they would like to know what you own exactly?
do we have a painter here somewhere?
The first time I heard you say that should be around 6 months ago. What is causing the delay?
Matt, did your opinion change with this news? (can't pm btw, but appreciate your pms)
Guys, whatever the info is ( I saw it btw, but still) it shouldn't change anything. If you believed the PPS predictions from webby your are very naive. He has been saying the same thing for almost 2 years, nothing ever happened.
Guys like webby are part of this game. It is obvious that BKMP has not a lot of places to go with a 30 billion o/s. There will be one last pump and a reverse. Webby is just part of that pump.
On the other hand: webby does give some info away now and then which shows he is connected. But this is part of how this works. What really will happen is our guess....
Could you define exactly what the scam is?
Sure, Sandy was lying in one of his most recent PRs about the buyout, when they dumped the CD on us.
That is something for which we could take him.
But other than that? BKMP has been used to finance the start of TFN. For that effort, we own a share of the pie.
Now the problem is that new management of TFN does not want to be associated with BKMP anymore and does not allow them to do duplicate PRs. All news comes directly from TFNG, we just own part of it.
I agree that samai should be pressured for PRing the exact ownership and stating offically that for TFN news, we will have to hear it from TFN.
Further, TFN management should be pressured to allow BKMP to PR on events of TFN.
But apart from those things, there is not much we can do.
btw: I fully agree on looking at the reality and not be blinded by prophets....
I just digged a little bit further. Found out that Webby is just a pumper that has always done the same predictions for BKMP:
Posted by: webprods
In reply to: artfink who wrote msg# 247720 Date:6/7/2007 10:28:45 AM
Post #of 292175
No .I have to rise up to 0.0068.Sorry about that but I didn't have it before what I have now.Of course I don't need to say that after all PPS will reach at list 0.018- 0.02.You don't belive don't You ???Well ,good 4 me. Good luck.
Posted by: webprods
In reply to: Charlatan who wrote msg# 61738 Date:5/1/2006 8:11:37 AM
Post #of 292176
Undergr.BKMP 0.20 soon
7,811,091,339 is the exact number
http://pinksheets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById?id=13861
Around 8 billion restricted shares should come available soon. The exact number can be found in the financials.
Nobody knows who owns restricted shares. Could be 3 people or could be a 1000 people.
Indeed ... a pinkie or a con man like Sandy. On the other hand: I think Sandy is working for TFN now
That's a theory, but could also be a wish.
Another theory could be that they just do not want to be associated with a pinkie with no bid.
I think samai agrees. He told me to bug TFN management if we wanted to change things. He wants to PR TFN stuff and I also think he realizes the importance, but he's not allowed
I agree that they do not need to put out sensitive TFN information of course. But at least allow BKMP to PR when TFN PRs. (like the funding and the UK).
That shows investors we are still related.
Samai does not have a choice. TFNG forbids him to PR TFN related stuff. Sandy can not change that.
When Sandy was in charge, also his friend Mike was in charge of TFN, so I guess they had a better relationship. (which was necessary because Sandy provided the money!!)
But I see AU's point. I'm not saying we should tell George how to run things, he should just now that there are thousands of indirect shareholders out there and that the feel left behind.
All,
I have asked Samai why we are not reporting on TFN events. Samai replied and told me that BKMP is not allowed to do so from TFN management. He also added that it is the policy of TFN to release only little information.
I suggest that we all start to put some pressure on TFN management by massively emailing george. After all, it is us that funded the start of TFN. We have a right on information and BKMP should have the right to PR changes at TFN.
George is running this thing as a private company with only some big private shareholders. But in fact, there are thousands of little shareholders, be it indirect. We own shares in a public company and George should make sure we get the information we want.
TFN was heavily used to pump BKMP to raise more funds for TFN. Lots of people bought in because they believe in TFN. Now TFN does not want to be associated with BKMP anymore. They squeezed us dry til the last drop and now they want to get rid of us. Lets tell this George-guy that you don't threat people like that!
That is also what I heard, around 1.50 per viewer.
Should be good for 1.5 million per month
nice find.
Would be nice to find out how many actually paid after the event. But we probably won't
maybe it already ran and we missed it?