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In regards to your reply to my post on 11/15/14 about the Koch brothers, you said they "are a core source of propaganda funding behind attempts to distract and distort the scientific facts that CO2 emissions... double the atmospheric CO2 concentration. I would love to read some of their propaganda. I don't want to hear from a third party that they said something. I want to read it. They are demonized because they are Republicans and they donate to Republican candidates. If they donated to Democrat Candidates Harry Reed and his friends would never bring their names up.
I want clean air and water as much as the next guy. I invested in Mantra for their great technologies. But I am sick and tired of people telling me that the world is a few years away from us destroying it. Ever since Al Gore started this in the mid 80's I keep hearing we are 10 years away from the Earth heating up and killing us all. But he made his billions off it and rides around in his private jet telling the rest of us to conserve. It's amazing how Al Gore and others who claim to be in the environmental movement like Leo DeCaprio tell us how evil oil is while riding in their private jets.
I love Capitalism, it has made more wealth for people than anything else. I love oil because of the things we can do with it. If you want to see a real polluter go to youtube and search "oil seepage." Watch the videos of oil and methane gas being released through fissures in the ocean floor. That's where tar balls on the beach come from. That methane gas is released into the atmosphere. It happens in every ocean. Their is an environmental group that wants to drill off the coast of California to stop this polluting.
Here are a few facts: China over the last 20 years has built dozens of coal fired power plants. Why has the Earth's temperature not risen one degree in that time frame? Over that time China's middle class has grown along with car ownership. With all that carbon you would think the Earth's temp would increase not stay the same. By the way, look at the record cold temps across the country right now. In June an article was written about a record amount of sea ice at Antarctica. But hey, what do I know. Polar Bears are drowning they tell us even though they are great swimmers. Thats where the true propaganda lives. Scare kids they are drowning and we have to act now to save them. Lie to kids so they will grow up and vote for Democrats since the environmental movement are Dems. But they are drowning because the poles are melting. The average temp at Antarctica is minus 60 degrees F. I'm not sure but I believe ice starts to melt at 32.1 F. Of course there are ocean currents with warm water but the closer it gets to the poles the water cools.
We have been monitoring the Earths temp for about 120 years. If the Earth is billions of years old how do we know if this temp is normal? Maybe the avg temp is 5 degrees warmer than now. And one more thing, The Earth went through 6 ice ages and then global warming trends, all this without the burning of oil and coal.
People need to relax.
Oil prices have been coming down because a lack of demand and fracking on private lands has increased production. If oil companies want to keep the price up then why do they keep adding to production with more fracking? They are only going to add to more supply which will drive down the price. Oil prices are not coming down because a few thousand electric cars were bought. By the way, why do we want electric cars when over 50% of electricity comes from coal. I choose gasoline. The people buying a Tesla are rich Hollywood types who think they can save the planet and can afford a $50,000 vehicle. We will never eliminate oil. I can't see a fuel cell lifting an airplane off the ground. Oil is used for chemicals, tires, paving roads, clothing, plastics ect. ect.
The hybrid and electric cars we've been moving towards had nothing to do with the recent decline in oil. There is no coincidence. We are drilling more. At $2.25 or $5.00 a gallon I'm not buying a Tesla. Coal fired power plants are starting to close. Electricity prices are starting to creep upwards.
Oil companies and OPEC will want us to continue to use oil but there is no way of stopping MVTG. Unless they want to pay $5 to $10.00 a share and buy out Mantra. That fuel cell will be a game changer.
These investors won't be screwed unless they are idiots. They know how to use options as insurance. Investors look 3 to 6 months out and if they can't see the trend then they will starve. There is no conspiracy. If there is then why is oil still falling? At the Chicago Mercantile Exchange Oil along with other commodities are traded. This is where the price of oil is set. Investors have been selling their futures contracts. They see supply rising and demand is soft.
I see that new pictures have been put up at www.aptrentalsaz.com
What in the world does the Koch brothers have to do with anything? There isn't some conspiracy to stop Mantra from introducing their technology. Geez, you get a few wacko politicians to find a private citizen like the Koch brothers to demonize just because they are in the oil industry for their own political gain who donate tens of millions of dollars to charity. There is nothing wrong with the oil industry. Cheap energy is one of the reasons we became a powerful rich country. We should all be thanking the oil industry for finding oil so we can get in our car and go to work. Thank God for oil. Now this winter I can get in my car and turn on the heater. Thank you oil industry and Koch brothers. There're dozens of products made from oil. I wonder why certain politicians never demonize the Rockefellers? Thats how they got their fortune. Oh thats right they are good little Democrats. It's those mean evil Republicans who want dirty air and water. These same politicians who pretend they care about the environment because they see a small voting block of people they want voting for them have their portfolios filled with oil stocks. Yeah big bad evil oil industry didn't stop the electric car. They havn't stopped other fuel cells from coming out and they won't stop Mantra.
We are already experiencing lower demand for oil and the cost of a barrel of oil is down along with the gas price. During this time the stock price of Exxon is up. Look at the chart. The reason is because they hedge against a falling price. Gold miners do this as well. It gives them a more stable earning picture rather than going through big swings. If some of those banks,retirement funds, investors and institutions want to save gains when we get to a point where oil is drastically reduced then they had better invest in Mantra because this stock is a millionaire maker.
Mvtg is holding up just fine compared to the other fuel cell stocks. And the run MVTG has had from it's all time low in 2011 (when the U.S. President tried to cancel the world with a debt default because he didn't want to address out of control wasteful spending). We are just a few weeks away from the fuel cell vehicle. The roller coaster ride we are on has now hit the bottom and our rise will be faster on the way up than it was on the way down.
I know I can. It's just more satisfying buying this low.
Wait!!!! Shorts, don't start covering yet. Wait till after I buy more shares next week. LOL
Yes they do. If they truly wanted out they would have sold already. Those shares for sale always are a cent or two above the ask. We saw this when the stock was in the low 50 cent range. Remember 80,000 shares for sale at 58 cents. They have been following the stock downward. They know this will help discourage new buyers. They know the stock will not do anything until the vehicle news comes out in December. We are getting rid of weak hands and into stronger hands like mine. I'm buying more next week.
Ok thats from 2011. And someone gives us an example of tuna fish and mercury and wonders if anything before 2012 is baseless. WOW! I don't know the extent of some of the peoples investment knowledge is here but, I on the other hand want to know where the company is going 6 months from now. I could care less about what they said three years ago. Why? Things change. Business environment changes. New technology changes. New plans, new innovations new strategies, new managements. If I'm going to invest in Pepsi I don't care what they said three years ago. I want to know what they are doing and saying now to increase stock value. I am waiting for the fuel cell vehicle and pilot plant.
I may have been wrong on MSFT as a penny stock unless you consider the split adjustments. Again, depends on yor definition of a penny stock. But other penny stocks would include CITI at .97 in 2009, Office Depot .59 in 2009, and I believe GM traded below a dollar in 2009.
I can't see an end to fossil fuels anytime soon. Maybe after I'm long gone. I can't imagine as of yet an energy source other than fossil fuels that can get a plane off the ground. Perhaps I am short sighted. The really good news is that I see the fuel cell replacing gasoline for our vehicles over the next 5 years. That will bring a smile to my face as I watch Russia and OPEC panic over the decline in oil prices while I enjoy retirement on my new yacht from my MVTG investment.
I'll be on that same train with you with my big bag packed with Mantra shares. Buying more next week
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Amen brother. I have a target price of $3.00 before spring.
I don't doubt that a lot of shares were purchased in Europe over .50 and I believe you are correct they are holding on just like we are. But I doubt that most the of the shares purchased came from Europe. I myself have brought on 5 people close to me who bought over 50 cents. One of them did sell for tax loss reasons. He is buying back in next week. Perhaps he is the only one who did this. I don't know. It really doesn't matter. It's just a guess on my part as to one reason why the stock has fallen to these levels along with short selling. The main point I was trying to get at is that if there was some tax loss selling it is about over. Because of the WASH RULE they have to wait 30 days before they can get back in and still take advantage of the tax right off. So anyone who did this will be buying back those shares soon.
This stock has only 70 million OS. Larry owns 13 million. That leaves 57 million available. I know a lot of people who own shares and are not selling until at least $3 including myself. From what I read here there're a lot of investors including you Ecomike who are doing the same. That does not leave very many shares available right now. When that first major news hits every short will be scrambling to find anyone looking to sell so they can cover. I myself am buying more next week. I will take a few more shares off the market from them. Good luck to all the shorts trying to find sellers when that day comes.
I'm not talking about those investors. What about the new comers who first heard about MVTG when the stock was over .50 a share. Your assuming that all shares bought above .50 were done by those who already own shares. New investors do come along. A lot of investors who buy a stock and lose 10% on that investment will sell instead of risking more downward action and consider the loss to bad timing. If I first heard about MVTG and bought above .60 and knowing the vehicle comes out in December and the Lafarge plant is in January I would sell to offset some capital gains and buy back after the 30 day period before December arrived.
The reason I bring this up about tax loss selling is because of the WASH RULE. The IRS will allow you to deduct a stock loss on your taxes. But after you sell the stock to take advantage of the right off you have to wait 30 days before you can re-buy to take advantage of this right off. So I am guessing there has been some tax loss selling by those who think the stock will not go up until the fuel cell vehicle is announced. Which will give them time to re-buy before any major news is released.
Maybe not. But I am looking at the chart and I see over 1.5 million shares have been purchased above .60 a share this year. Don't know how many were bought between .50 and .60 but I am guessing some tax loss selling has begun and will continue. If I am right I don't believe there will be much more of it going on. My shares were purchased between .10 and .15 with a few purchases in the low .20's. I'm not complaining either. I'm getting ready to buy more. This price is getting to cheap.
10 cents a share? It will never see 10 cents again. I'll buy your shares at .30 though. That's if it gets that low. The short sellers will try to get it there. In my opinion it will all depend on how much tax loss selling will occur.
I want everyone here to be prepared to see 30 cents before the vehicle comes out. Of course there could be an event that is announced that will make me change my mind and the stock will rise obviously. I'm saving my cash and waiting for those cheaper shares to come if it happens. If not I am satisfied with my large position.
I believe the short sellers will increase until the fuel cell vehicle is ready for the following reason. We are at the end of the year. They know there will be tax loss selling. Those who bought shares over 50 cents may sell to offset gains for tax purposes. It's been a while since I was a broker but I believe there is a certain time frame now before you can jump back into a stock after tax loss selling. That maybe why we have seen some selling the last few weeks. People realize the stock will be flat to slightly down before that event happens.
Thank you to all the sellers. I love buying more shares below 40 cents. Why am I not worried? Because I know what I own. I don't invest with a blindfold on. Looking forward to another purchase next week.
Good grief. This news about the grant is not big news. The stock is not going to move until the Fuel Cell vehicle is complete or a major deal is etched in stone.
As an ex broker let this be a lesson. Do not use stop loss orders. Once that trigger is hit it will be the next trade which in penny stocks will be below your stop loss price. Most of the time. If you have one then cancel it.
JP Morgan once said, "buy when there is blood in the streets." It's amazing how easy it is for people to panick. I bought in for the fuel cell vehicle and carbon capturing tech. You people didn't expect this stock to go to $5 a share without these accomplishments completed did you? I knew it wasn't going to be ready till December and January. Let the stock do what it wants. I encourage more sellers. Too many good things happening. Sell! All you negative Nancys keep it up. Try and talk this stock down more. I Don't care. I love buying up bargains. January is when the money will be made. Thank you for driving the stock down. Please don't stop.
Their buildings are amazing. Did you see all the pictures of the Houston two story office building at www.aptrentalsaz.com?
You know the economy is bad when you have people on here with nothing better to do with their lives then write worthless drivel like ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. For crying out loud. Go back to wasting time playing video games or watching tv all day while waiting for your government money to arrive. All of us long term investors know this stock isn't going to move until the next big news event. Hopefully before the fuel cell vehicle news. I invested just like most intelligent people on their fuel cell and carbon capturing technology. Go find another penny stock forum to write your ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ or whine about. I personally do not care if this stock drops to .30 next month. That give me a chance to buy a hell of a lot more shares before the vehicle comes out. I'm expecting $2 a share by the end of January. That gives me one hell of a ROI.
I see more pictures are put up
There has been a few more pictures added a few days ago. Waiting to see more.
For those who have not seen yet there are a few pictures up of the residential home under construction. You can see them at www.aptrentalsaz.com
CDEL removed the 80,000 ask again
Someone buys 27,500 shares and wipes out most of the ask and now we are at .44 and then CDEL puts back up the 80,000 shares at .48
They are air tight so they would be perfect. I wonder if the military also prefers Leepcore because they are air tight. With all the electronics the military uses now it would keep moisture away from the equipment.
One more thing. There is nothing wrong with the company. The only problem we have is a lack of buyers. And looking at L2 that has changed for the time being as it looks like the bids are growing a little. Ok maybe two things. Secondly, perhaps those who bought around .70 have sold for tax purposes and will rebuy at these lower levels. Just a thought.
I bought the majority of my shares at the .15 range. When I bought I new before it was all said and done there would be around 100 to 110 million shares outstanding. You can't honestly say you didn't know that a start up tech company was going to keep OS shares around 50 to 60 million did you? Research and development costs money. If you don't spend money on R&D you will not grow. They can spend $10 or $20 million more on R&D I don't care. Just get the fuel cell vehicle complete in December and the Pilot Plant finished in January. And stop expecting revenues until then. If they do have any it's a plus. Do I here an AMEN out there?
If we can hold .35 we will be just fine. Outside the 40,000 share ask at .42 the ask is just as thin as the bid side.
I own a ton of shares. With the price over .50 it was no longer worth buying. However, if this stock gets down to the .30 range I will be forced to buy a lot more. At that point just one good news release will take us back above .50 where I can almost double my money. I am very disappointed that Larry has not put forth any news in regards to his latest travels. Also, watching this stock should prove to everyone that technical analysis is not that accurate when it comes to a penny stock like this. With 70 million shares it's to unpredictable. There is only three things I look at in technical analysis for a penny stock like this. Support, Resistance and Volume.
If this thing closes below .35 today good luck trying to pick the bottom. We are 16,000 shares away from .255 bid. We need a major news event to prevent this from happening because the buying has dried up. I would like to thank the PR firms for showing everybody that they are a waste of money.
Photos of that home under construction at www.aptrentalsaz.com