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I have also seen the products produced and sent out to LOWES..all top quality and easy to find..
I agree 100% that the "B2B market is multiple times larger than the B2C market"..
Funny how some don't know that..
Over seven months with no new dilution and the shareholder's meeting is just a few weeks away..I am looking forward to what management has to share...veno
True..
"Just like last year people are holding on for better EXPH days"..
That is what investing is..I can understand where daytraders..wash traders and traders in general don't understand the concept..But of course we know what happened to the boiler room day traders when the bubble burst..Now they are individually looking for stocks to make back all they lost..
Sept 2nd and living is easy for long term investors..Traders on the other hand..Well..Good Luck..as you say .Ohhhhh!!!...veno
Again..late May and early June have come and gone with no new dilution..Now seven months and no new filings for more shares..Traders looking to get shares at the current bid and the insiders and longs are not selling..The shareholder's meeting is this month..so if you have any questions be sure to ask them there face to face since you have a great deal of them you want answered..
Holding my shares for much better days...veno
Really??
"You do realize the *bid* is loaded with sellers, don't you?!"
That's hilarious..You may want to think that one through again..there are 3.3 BILLION shares in investors hands..
What is a fact is that late May and early June came and went with no new dilution..I seem to remember a post telling me what "Summer" was..though the first guess was July for more dilution..Anyway you look at it "Summer" is fleeting..I see no new dilution in over a half a year and I see that the majority of shares are locked up tight..No wash trading to speak of at all recently..So it looks to be shaping up nicely for the shareholder's meeting..We will re-visit the "Summer and the living is easy" topic again soon..that is a fact...veno
Again with the..maybe someone should do something..
You post..
"Maybe you should just email him yourself to be sure:"
Maybe I already have and know far more than I did before..
So.."Maybe you should just email him yourself to be sure"..
I wasn't the one that told another investor to ask to buy shares..
Sure seems like a lot advice is given for others to do the bidding of ones that have never contacted the company even once..I do see as you say those that are "day and night on chat boards",but they are not the investors of the company that hold the majority of shares..I only have three posts a day..so I know I am not in the group you speak of..
As far as the "Jimmy" you speak of..Again just more fodder...veno
Sounds like good advice..
"Call Brown and tell him you are dying to buy 1,271,397,700 EXPH shares at .0001 and no one will sell them to you."
Get back to us with his response when you make the call..
However considering JD stepped down a long time ago..You might want to talk to Glenn or maybe Kendrick...veno
Really??
"I also think that hundreds of millions of shares have been dumped by *the loyal longs* based upon recent <events>."
So if *the loyal longs* have dumped their shares..who bought them?? We are talking about 3.3 billion shares which by the looks of the volume.. nothing is being dumped..
I am still holding mine and with no new dilution in over a half a year..I will continue to do so...veno
On the contrary it is not unreasonable at all to argue otherwise..Your conjecture is just that and volume since february means absolutely nothing considering those that wash trade and the actual dilution we know to be fact..One item of interest though with your theory..If the company diluted more shares since Feb..who now owns those shares?? It is unreasonable as you know to say that average retail investors hold the bulk of the shares with the numbers you are thinking..
My feeling is that if the insiders believe that buying shares and holding them is a good thing..I see no reason not to do the same..
Thanks...veno
No new dilution in over a half a year..
No new filings is the proof..and anything else is just a guess..I'll await the answers you get from the shareholder's meeting...veno
Really??
"and raising massive amounts of cash through even MORE dilution"
Are suggeting that since late May and early June didn't happen..that the SEPT shareholder's meeting is your next dated guess for more dilution to occur??
Oh and your reponse to my posted comment about being able to pay in installments was on the topic of business payroll taxes..Here is the quote again..It is very specific in stating that the topic is payroll taxes not personal taxes as you claimed in your post..
"The best thing to do if you cannot pay back your delinquent business payroll taxes is contact the IRS to set up an "installment agreement". With an installment agreement in place you will still owe your original payroll taxes - as well as the amount agreed upon with the IRS."
So we are now almost seven months with no new dilution as predicted and the shareholder's meeting is still on..
I will await the answers you get at the shareholder's meeting to your posted questions...veno
I certainly did post this and thanks for quoting me correctly..
"the company can just pay back the taxes on a scheduled payment agreement"..
The statement is correct..The IRS is more than willing to work with the company to get the money owed..
You seem to think otherwise..Your thoughts are wrong..There are now many posts on the subject..yet all that had to happen was for the company to contact the IRS and work with them..
Now a question to you..Have you called or emailed the company and asked them any of the questions you have on this topic?? Do you know if they have contacted the IRS?? I would say that the answer to that question is..No..My proof is your continued posts talking about what may happen if the back taxes are not paid..
I do not rely on a message board for my DD..Please do your own DD to stay current on this subject..
Oh..and there are many links to this topic that do actually say what the IRS does allow in this situation..Here is one quote if a company has failed to pay back payroll taxes..
"Not paying back payroll taxes will result in the IRS sending you a series of letters notifying you of how much you owe, what the next step is, and what you can do to get back on track. If you ignore these IRS notices, the final notice will come via certified mail, alerting you to the fact that the IRS intends to use alternative methods - such as tax liens and tax levies - to receive payment."
"The best thing to do if you cannot pay back your delinquent business payroll taxes is contact the IRS to set up an "installment agreement". With an installment agreement in place you will still owe your original payroll taxes - as well as the amount agreed upon with the IRS."
"If you cannot pay the IRS the payroll taxes that are due, you must contact them to discuss your options. The worse thing that you can do is avoid the situation, letting penalties and interest accumulate and finding your balance spiraling rapidly out of control."
As far as quickly answering your questions concerning the company in this venue..
First..I don't spend every waking hour on message boards..I am a shareholder of the company and I don't have the same concerns you seem to have..
Second..I don't speak for the company and shareholders can and do get answers from the company when we have questions..So if you have further questions..please submit them to the company..or attend the shareholder's meeting..which is now one month from tomorrow...veno
Glad we got that straight about all being alleged and only opinion in your posts..
It is good to know what is fact and not alleged is that the prediction that the company would be out of money and diluting more shares by late May or early June didn't happen..
I"ll hold my shares with the majority...veno
Are you saying you want photos of the statement that show the profits made after the sale of stock currently being held by longs and insiders..If so..I would be glad to put forth a photo of mine when I sell...veno
Or the company can just pay the back taxes on a scheduled payment agreement..You might want to call the company and find out what is really going on..Or..if you choose..you can wait for the shareholder's meeting..Of course that meeting is for actual shareholders of the company..Since the insiders that hold the majority of shares are not concerned..neither am I...veno
Once again..All debts can be paid..
The term "alleged" used twice in the post..Nuff said..
No new dilution in over a half a year..The shareholder's meeting is coming..where many questions can be asked and answered..
The majority of shares are still be held tight..With all the alleging going on..it is a wonder shareholders don't throw in the towel..Yet..the insiders still control the majority of shares and they don't seem to care one way or the other what is posted here..so neither do I..I would say they know much more than any here do..so I'll continue to hold with them...veno
Yep..it means absoultely nothing once paid..
But we all know that...veno
"to actually read and understand what the tax lien means to the future"..
You mention Renee in your post and want me to disprove the theory presented in that post?? Really?? Because that is what it is..just a theory with absolutely no backing..No new dilution has happened in over a half a year..period..There have been no AS increases and no new filings since the last AS increase..There is my proof..So please prove me wrong with documented evidence that new shares have been added and not just a theory..If not..again the late May and early July prediction made in your post was wrong...veno
The company and shareholders..
"Who do you think will win in this battle veno?"
Nice and quiet lately..I like that a lot..I like the zero trades even better..Good news is pending..
Legit company..Quality products and a huge company that keeps reordering for one part..The other part..well the pictures tell the story..
http://www.cimacabinetry.com/
No new dilution in over a half a year...veno
100% truth..The company has not diluted more shares for over a half a year..
Great speculation with no backing at all in your posts using words like "may indeed have".."may well have".."might very well be".."They may be".."could be" and on and on..
I will agree with you on one point from other posts. The company more than likely will get away from what was a losing proposition..That move from single project based customers to customers that need to replenish stock on a regular basis did begin..The move to the cabinet side is already ongoing and has been for almost a year..Cima comes on and a new cabinet display within the store are just the first steps..
Lots of posts on the subject speculating just that.. when no speculation was needed..All it took for me was one mention in a PR by the company almost a year ago and a phone call..
Did everyone forget this??
"As a result of this volatility the company has been diversifying from displays and commercial cabinetry to retail cabinetry (etc.), residential cabinetry, high end residential cabinetry, and a new economy pet program. It is also important to point out that a major shift in customer types is occurring from single project based customers to customers that need to replenish stock on a regular basis."
Once again the company has not diluted for over a half a year and the "late May early June" prediction was and is flat out wrong...veno
No new dilution in over a half a year..
You post that the company has been out of money since Late May and early June..
Yet the company is still operating and orders have increased..deposits have increased and majority shareholders are not selling..
I'll hold my shares and say your guess that the company is out of money is flat out wrong..as was your dilution posted prediction..Oh by the way..it is August 12th and the shareholder's meeting is still on...veno
"Is there any reason you keep bringing up the company's lack of dilution?"
Sure..two very good reasons..
One there has been no new dilution in over a half a year..
and of course your prediction that the company would dilute further no later that late May or early June..which we now know didn't happen..
I knew of course that the posts couldn't be found because there was none to be found..only more fodder..
As far as cellar boxing the stock into oblivion..it didn't work..That is a fact..What did happen is that traders have been non-existant since the attempt failed..There are no buyers because there are no sellers..as the majority of shares are being held tight by the insiders and friendlies..mine included..plain and simple..The majority of shareholders are not dumping their shares based on posts here..that is a fact that will remain..
There will be a shareholder's meeting contrary to another post of yours..Again that is for actual shareholders of the company...veno
So now there are two posts??
"Dig it up yourself...there's actually two where you denied the tax lien was filed"..
let us see just one that you can find..I would suggest that the statement made before and now claiming two exist is actually a "bald-faced prevarication"..as you say..
about this..
"There was never any effort to "box EXPH shares into the cellar".
Well..I disagree..after the post was made the effort sure was there..but I do agree it didn't work so it was a wasted effort..
And this..
They will.."be out of business soon"..Would that prediction be anything like one you posted saying they will be diluting by late May or early June?? If so, the company should be just fine..
I will hold my shares tight along with the insiders and friendlies doing the same..
Two things of note today..The website is still up and the volume proves my point that regardless of what is posted here..no one is selling...veno
Really??
"You stated that the Federal Tax lien against Expo Holdings, Inc. didn't exist"..
Show me that post..
As far as telling me to stop posting about no new dilution..I'll post what I want to post..
There has been no new dilution and your prediction about it happening in late May or early June didn't pan out..We are in August now and the company continues to operate without new dilution and now the talk is about the website being up or down as if it is a big event..Well the website is up..
I never talked about short selling pressure..I posted about your post which described the now failed effort to cellar box the stock into oblivion..
EXPO is a legit company..Next stop Sept and the shareholder's meeting..I'll continue to hold my shares with the majority shareholders which are the insiders and friendlies to the company and do know what the company is doing..No volume..no selling..as the majority of the shares are being held tight by those that don't sell from the off base opinions of a message board...veno
For the record..
Yes..bentos was correct in stating that a conpiracy in full force is going on to entice selling..
This was also correct..
There is no selling from the majority shareholders which are the insiders and friendlies to the company..No one is or will be running for the door based on posted opinions..
We are in August now with no new dilution in over a half a year..contrary to posts claiming it would happen in May..June or July..The claims which are still ongoing..made to entice selling..but not working..I also will hold on to my shares along with the insiders and friendlies that do know what is going on..
So if you need for me to repeat it again first check the volume of shares traded daily out of 3.3 billion shares..Read all the negative posts and don't skip the one talking of cellar boxing the stock into oblivion and if you still have questions..I have no problem posting the message again...veno
Bentos is correct..the conspiracy is certainly there and in force..He is also correct..there is no selling from the majority shareholders which are the insiders and friendlies to the company..No one is or will be running for the door based on posted opinions..
We are in August now with no new dilution in over a half a year..contrary to posts claiming it would happen in May..June or July..The claims which are still ongoing..made to entice selling..but not working..I also will hold on to my shares along with the insiders and friendlies that do know what is going on...veno
Still no new dilution..working on 7 months and the insiders still are holding the majority of shares..It works for me..To each their own..but the company certainly isn't out of money..August 8th and counting..
edit..I forgot to mention that one scenario can still happen which negates all posts on the subject..The company still can pay all back taxes..A good start would be a payment schedule using some of the revenues from the recent jobs that brought in $189K in deposits alone..Like I said..the rest is nothing but fodder...veno
A good start for an assistant..LOL..
"differently than say...*er*.....enablers and shareholders under the influence of Kool-aid.."
Drink your own Kool-aid and if you want answers ask the company..As I said..I have no concerns and will hold my shares..along with the majority of insiders..All will brought forth at the shareholder's meeting...veno
Good question for the shareholder's meeting..I'll await what you get when you ask it there...veno
Really??
"Direct link to "shareholder update" page now down
too"
http://www.expoholding.com/news.asp
It works fine for me..seems your conspiracy theory is off the mark on that one..as well as..
May..June and JULY have come and gone with no new dilution..So the rest..as I said..is just fodder...veno
Correctly stated..no new dilution for over 6 months..
May..June and July predictions were wrong..
The rest is just fodder..Questions can always be asked and answered at the upcoming shareholder's meeting..for those that are actual shareholders that is..
Good news to come IMO...veno
No new dilution in over a half a year now..Late May and early June have come and gone..I should add that July as well is over..yet the company is still working with no new dilution as was wrongly predicted would happen..As Bentos posted..the company is still in business and with the shareholder meeting coming..many are expecting much more positive news..The majority of shares are being held tight and I will hold mine as well..
I don't have a fetish for bad news..I have a fetish for the company turning itself around and moving forward..Not an easy task in this economy...veno
LOL..
"How in the world could anyone determine "top quality" work on a CIMA cabinet installation from a 2" low resolution photo on a Facebook page, LMAO?"
Well..if you click on the picture in the photo section..it gets bigger..LMAO as well...veno
Really??
"nobody is buying"??
So what we are seeing is shorting only?? thanks for that...veno
I agree..Since you are familiar with costs..what is your estimate on the cost of the kitchen work done in the second and third photos in the top row??
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cima-Cabinetry/152325358153958?closeTheater=1
The work done in the profile picture is also top quality..Thanks again...veno
Not ugly at all..In fact..it looks to be very high quality..professionally finished work..Thanks for the link...veno
As always..thanks fo the numbers...eom
It doesn't show clear evidence of anything..
I see there is still talk of verifiable evidence yet nothing has happened..
EXPO is a legit company regardless of what is posted here..
News is pending..let's us hope it is great news...veno
Great..please make it so...eom
You are correct..but it is not the longs who are stuck..it is the traders..The fact the pps hasn't gone over .0004 is not a bad thing for long term investors..because we are not selling..However..for the game players..I know the lack in big swings in the pps is very depressing..There is no more boasting about buying and selling as you can see..The longs can wait for the company to grow and show profits..3.3 billion shares out..with the majority in the hands of the insiders and friendlies..I do believe they know far more than we do..therefore..I will hold with them...veno
The same goes for me..
"Management has never lied to this shareholder,"
Funny how that is..In fact all that I have gleemed from either emails or phone calls to and from the company have been spot on..
I couldn't agree more with your thinking..A great company with great products..in business with huge companies like LOWES..The future still looks good for this company and this investment...veno