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In general, it's a dang racket, not particularly to just GERS. If you R/S, your A/S should drop along with preferred shares. The soldiers holding up the company (investors) get screwed yet again.
I have a question. If a company does a reverse split from 14 Billion to 14 Million outstanding shares and they had 20 Billion A/S, does that mean that they can technically still release 20 Billion total back into the market?
I was thinking once a R/S takes place, the total shares available period drop. Is it really that the A/S isn't effected unless the share reduction is a reduction of the A/S and not the O/S? If my new understanding is correct, I now know what posters mean when they say "wash, rinse, repeat!" and this will change my perspective greatly with speculating...errr..."investing" in pennies. In addition, I would have a better understanding of why some people say some penny company "executives" are thieves as this seems like the perfect, and unfortunately, legal scam until the system changes or people stop speculating...errr...investing in them.
Skribe, I have a question. If a company like GERS do a reverse split from 14 Billion to 14 Million outstanding shares and they have 20 Billion A/S, does that mean that they can technically still release 20 Billion total back into the market?
I was thinking once a R/S takes place, the total shares available period drop. Is it really that the A/S isn't effected unless the share reduction is a reduction of the A/S and not the O/S? If my new understanding is correct, I now know what posters mean when they say "wash, rinse, repeat!" and this will change my perspective greatly with speculating...errr..."investing" in pennies. In addition, I would have a better understanding of why some people say some penny company "executives" are thieves as this seems like the perfect, and unfortunately, legal scam until the system changes or people stop speculating...errr...investing in them.
This show appears to be pretty much over when the company allows itself to go to "Stop" status on the OTCMarktets:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/dtsl/quote
I believe there are investors with tons of cash waiting to see where HFBG goes under JAG before they step in and push this company to higher levels beyond what we can imagine.
It will only be a matter of time until serious cash starts pouring in. I believe we are on the ground floor and JAG will get noticed by powerhouse investors.
Somebody knows something. I just canceled my sell order. Screw that, I am hanging around to see where this puppy goes.
I received the following automated messages from ShareBuilder:
APCX volume exceeded its 10-day Average by 207.77% with a volume of 28.5M
APCX volume exceeded its 50-day Average by 524.73% with a volume of 304.5M
I have been trying myself with no luck. DTSL, the quiet company.
EDIT: However, that 700,000 volume movement caught my eye. It could be that someone is aware of some upcoming news or simply an insider (like the CEO) try to trick newbies into investing. I hope it is the first option and not the last.
I just received this alert from ShareBuilder:
HFBG volume exceeded its 50-day Average by 104.99% with a volume of 138.52M.
Wow!!!! So, JAG, where may I sign up to help distribute the tea and other products? :)
ROFLMAO!!!!
Will the SP ever go above .0002 before the R/S???
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/09/earnhardt-jr-s-hot-wheels-uas-hot-shoes-grand-ma-mas-hot-tea:
Former NBA Star Larry ‘Grand Ma Ma’ Hits The Food Court
Ever wonder what happened to Larry Johnson, who played basketball at UNLV before a 10-year NBA career that included stops with the then Charlotte Hornets and the New York Knicks and two All-Star Game appearances.
The man who created the persona of Grand Ma Ma for marketing efforts (including Converse) is co-owner of Hall of Fame Beverages, which produces such products as its signature brand Grand Ma Ma’s Sweet Southern Tea and Grand Ma Ma’s Gourmet Southern Desserts.
The Las Vegas-based company has signed a deal with grocery distributor C&S Wholesale Grocers to bring Grand Ma Ma’s Sweet Southern Tea to the public, including people in New York, in the coming weeks. C&S Wholesale Grocers serves about 3,900 stores from 50 distribution centers in 11 states. Other distribution deals will add to a wider consumer reach.
According to Johnson, whose Grand Ma Ma caricature appears on bottle labels and supporting marketing, “I have waited a long time to bring my tea to New York City and it’s finally going to happen with C&S. This is a partnership we’re really excited to have.”
JAG is the truth. Please JAG, keep going. We have your back! I am trying to sell shares in my non-performing stocks to get in deeper into this one. I like what JAG is doing.
I think this speaks volume about JAG and the new direction HFBG is going. I am digging it.
What a mess.
Damn straight! :) JAG is making it happen.
One suggestion to HFBG: USPS shipping costs more than the product. HFBG may want to shop around for less expensive carriers and provide the purchaser with different shipping options.
I may still order one case so I can personally check out the product but reorders will be put on hold because of the high shipping charges. I hope they address that part of the process.
I hope other penny stock companies are paying attention because JAG is showing how it should be done. Investors have JAG's back and if other companies started doing the same thing and take company and shareholder interest to heart as she appears to be doing, money will flow in.
This is what moves to the big dawgs (NASD, etc) are made of....CEOs taking stock of the condition of the company when they come on board, coming up with a plan (or plans) to turn it around and EXECUTING while being aware of results and adjusting and updating the game plans accordingly. Shoot, I would even go as far as getting a vendor's license, ordering cases of this tea and selling it at local festivals and outside of major events like ball games, etc to get the brand name out. Hell, Coca Cola Enterprises (World of Coke, etc) are not that far away from where the ball game stadiums are in Atlanta. A local sales force may catch their attention.
Wait! Was that a potential multi-million dollar idea that just passed through my fingertips to this site???
This is how a company should run....be transparent and straight forward with your information. Your shareholders will have your back.
Since he was in prison, you know we can joke about that for days on end about him being dominated....errr...dominant. Lol!
Seriously, this has enough race card writing to make Rev. Al Sharpton say "what the f**k is his problem?" I don't know if it helped him to post that information. While it may be 100% true, I believe it is damaging to his personal and professional image. If I would have done full DD (I admit that this was a $100 investment based only on the 52WK highs/lows), I would have not invested in this company.
He could have went about this in an entirely different way that would have played out better. Even when the local Atlanta news station "ambushed" him, his response should have been more professional. In his defense, I don't know what was going on with him personally that day to warrant such a response but the overall outcome did not help him one bit.
That's right! I love it when good minds come together. I would also add to reach out to Investor Relations and the people running the company. If you cannot get a hold of them, potential investors may want to take that as a sign.
They should be able to answer questions about what their plans are, business model, identify competition and tell you how they differentiate from them (a live explanation may allow you to sniff out potential bullcrap). Don't let them tell you to "read our website." I want to hear it directly from you! If company execs and investor relations cannot explain basic information that answers the question "why should I invest in your company?", pause, breathe, think and go with your gut.
LGTT is at Hold status on BarChart.com:
http://barchart.com/quotes/stocks/LGTT
What the??? I checked Ligatt's website and see a rebuttal from Ligatt about the CBS News ambush. An interesting read:
http://www.ligattsecurity.com/general/responds-cbs-false-report
TruthInTime, you are mistaken. I want to be a "fan" of HFBG, not a friend of HFBG. As a fan, I get updates about the company, etc. However, the company don't need to be able to view my personal profile, see my kid's pictures, know who my wife is, etc. I still support a CEO who is doing big things like JAG and it appears she has integrity. We are sorely missing that in the business world.
To HFBG / JAG: Please make a fan page for HFBG on Facebook, not a friend page. I would join but I don't want to share my profile information with HFBG. I am sure others may have this concern unless they set up fake Facebook accounts to connect to you.
A fan page is the way to go.
Barchart.com seems to support a Strong Buy:
http://barchart.com/quotes/stocks/HFBG
I want to be like you one day, Mr. Buffit. :)
Well, I would suggest for you to do your own research on the company. Here are some links:
www.otcmarkets.com - look at company information, financial info, etc.
Finance.Yahoo.com
www.barchart.com
Search Google News for information on this company. Research, research, research.
This stock is extremely quiet....a reflection of the company. Wow!
Another $100 lost. Oh well, you win some, you lose some. $100 is my limit in any one penny land stock.
I must admit that I have been on the fence about selling GERS. However, I am going to hold on. The R/S is a little challenging to swallow as I will only have 2,000 shares after the R/S. 2000 is better than nothing.
I will wait and see where this puppy goes as upcoming events could dramatically push this thing beyond our imagination.
That's why I said I will let the chips fall where they may. I feel I have warned enough about this company.
Hey bud_fox, my good friend. Unfortunately, I have something that is not valued highly in penny land....integrity. I'd rather choose to alert other potential investors to the scam SMVI is running than to let them buy in, like I did, by reading bogus PRs from a company that is clearly not doing anything.
I'd rather absorb the $1000 hit and help others to avoid this scam than to be quiet and wait for the SP to go up on a fraudulent business.
Thayer the Thief will eventually have to pay for his thieving ways.
EDIT: Since I have posted more than enough warning signs about SMVI, I will let the chips fall where they may, hoping that the newbies will take heed or Thayer will change his ways and create real value for the shareholders.
Newbies, don't be fooled by this con of a company SMVI. Conman Thayer is in the business of pushing fake, underdeveloped sites on to the web and pushing out fake PRs to back them up.
C'mon, Caveat Emptor, c'mon! OTCMarkets, please, I beg you to drop this stock to Caveat Emptor status. Save the newbies, please! :)
A little DD for newbies:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65151097
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65161506
Since they read these boards, here is a message for eDoorways:
"eDoorways should be renamed ecDoorways for Emptor Caveat." Buffit and others are on to your scam.
SMVI went from Yield to Stop on OTCMarkets.com. C'mon, Caveat Emptor, c'mon!
Robert Thayer, you can do it! I have complete faith and trust in you that you can take this "company" to Caveat Emptor status.
I think the train has been derailed.
All JAG has to do is to continue cleaning up this company, get great sales, marketing and operations staff in place (over time), get the products out in mass and keep her hustle on. Eventually, one of the bigger boys on the block (Coke, Pepsi, etc) will catch wind of it and the rest will be blissful history.
We just need her to continue grinding and getting the products into as many places as possible.