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I keep seeing references to this shady land deal, but am having trouble finding some of the details. Can you post more info?
Don't think that email was responding to anything you said--I was responding to gopher.
yep ... with a 10 foot high flashing neon sign!
I don't necessarily have the information, but gumby was implying that he did. I had to call him to be accountable for his accusation. Having done a lot of natural product chemistry, I know better than to say, "There is no species of algae that can ..." Because there is bound to be one that will (or can be persuaded to) meet or exceed the desired process.
Does BEHL have such a species of algae? I don't know. Do they have a good extraction process? I don't know. Are the claims that gumby referred to valid or not? I don't know. That was my point. Unless gumby knows more what BEHL has made public, then claims of someone lying about production yields are unsustainable.
Go To to the open house this week end and ask about that issue.
Calling the process claims a lie implies sufficient expertise to be able to pass judgment. You didn't say you were an expert, but I assumed that you might know what you were talking about and could convince me, a chemist, that they were being deceptive. I apparently made an incorrect assumption. If you are going to call someone a liar about a specific point, then you best know what you are talking about.
This answer won't be good enough, I understand. but it is my last reply to you on this lie of questioning.
Sorry, I must have missed something. You accused BEHL (or someone) of a blatant lie. I asked for your expertise. Your answer appears to me to sidestep a defense of your accusation. I don't want circumstantial evidence. I want a step-by-step analysis of the extraction of phycocyanin telling me exactly why the proposed yield cannot be achieved. Anyone with the expertise you claim should have no difficulty with that request.
Again I say, tell me exactly why they are telling a lie about the technical details of phycocyanin extraction. Or admit you were blowing smoke. Not giving me the details I asked about tells me that you really don't know what you wrote about.
All at 100 shares each?
Of course, as the resident expert on the extraction of phycocynanin you would be in a position to see those blatant lies a mile off. I am a chemist, I can understand the technical details. Please educate me on what you see here as a blatant lie.
Please be specific as to the technical details that lead you to that conclusion. Leave your typical smoke and mirrors elsewhere on this answer.
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In case anyone missed this, there is a second biocam up and running.
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Another great post. This should be stickied.
I have been on both sides of that fence. I respect the decision to give up control for deep pockets. I ALSO respect the decision to tell the deep pockets to stay away. Neither you nor I know enough about the financial situation to be able to make any kind of judgment. We can assume whatever we want. I have no information from DF to know anything about the details of his financing choices. Do you?
BTW, I an curious why you are so all fired eager to protect those of us who are putting risk capital into this stock. I am a sentient being. I have put funds into a company which may or may not pay off. It is, however, MY money. I don't trust the motives of an anonymous poster on an internet discussion board that claiming altruism, but spending a LOT of time trying to save the investing world from Dennis Fisher at BEHL.
Companies that affiliate in some way with some deep pockets usually give up some control. I don't believe that the absence of deep pockets is in ANY way linked to an absence of interest in BEHL. The two MAY, or may not, be connected. Unless you have insider information to the contrary, you don't KNOW whether they are or not.
INCL has appeared repeatedly in releases from BNPD over the last several months. I imagine that the statement, which is typical boilerplate wording, was copied from an INCL release and pasted into a BNPD release. It was not edited to make it say BNPD. Sloppy on the part of the company, but does not appear to me to mean that they have any connection with INCL.
Of course, BEHL is NOT doing business with BNPD. They are doing business with Biocen Natural Products Development Group. The BNPD shell has been sold. The new company Biocen, currently privately owned, is in the process of going public.
Be careful in doing your DD.
Thin air!
Let's see. I think I have seen something addressing this issue. Oh yes! There is a stickied news release dated 8/2/10 which has the headline "BioCentric Energy Multi-Million Dollar Contract Has Been Signed." Hmmmm, this means...pause to think...of course, the company is lying.
You do understand (I hope) that BEHL uses water to cool the PBR. If the liquid on the tubes is not green, then there is no leak.
As I thought. Just an assumption. Doesn't matter how many chime in agreeing or disagreeing. Time will tell if you are right.
Just the fact that it took days for pinksheets to get the recently updated AS correct tells me something about their efficiency. I don't know when, or if, BEHL has sent their financials to pinksheets. I don know that the operations at pinksheets is neither perfect nor quick.
Do you have access to information that confirms that there are no signed contracts? If you do, please provide complete information so that I can do my own DD. I am not constituted to take your, or anyone else's word, on how I should handle my investments. I don't want to see a reiteration of your opinion, Please show me the DD.
Not sure what you are talking about. Have you actually looked at the video feed? Not a drop of green outside the tubes to be seen.
I agree.
Unfortunately, not everyone is willing to give BEHL the time to test their system.
Don't know if these buys are flippers or longs adding to their holdings.
Actually, the hand wringing has been quite amusing this morning. Like the last leak, BEHL people found and resolved the problem without panic. Within 4 hours the PBR looks to be cleaned up and back to normal. Gives confidence that they have designed a system that is easily maintained.
Simple logical failure.
Majority in this case equals the majority of people who KNOW about and have made a decision to or not to invest in BEHL. YOU don't know where that majority lies. The post you responded to was comparing the number of shareholders to the number of negative posters in ihub. Your analogy does not apply.
Like saying the majority of people speak english. That is true if you talk about the UK. It is decidedly not true if your include the rest of the world.
I was/am slightly uncomfortable with the post you bring up. Where did Greasy get that info? I don't know, better ask Greasy!
OTOH, I believe that there was enough information for Greasy to make some assumptions in writing that post. It did echo a mix of an earlier news release and eager anticipation. Once can be a coincidence. If it happens more often, then I become much more uncomfortable with the possibility of insider information.
At this time, I believe it was a post of "educated speculation."
I think I understand DF. He is enthusiastic about what BEHL has and, he believes, will accomplish. Everyone he is around, especially shareholders, must have the same interest that he does, so he tells us much of what is on his mind. We have seen a real-time listing of what was "in the works."
For some, this real-time listing of potential progress was also exciting. I have understood that these news releases represented potential, nothing was certain until a contract was signed and deposits paid. Others can't seem to discriminate between "signed contract" and "we'll see." When the events he talked about did not occur, it is now being used against him. DF's crime was to communicate his enthusiasm about his company.
DF was also in a difficult place. No news releases and he was vilified for doing nothing or hiding something. He was also vilified when these possible contracts did not come to fruition.
Primary rule to remember as the CEO of a public company, "Anything you say, or don't say, may be used against you."
Interesting historical document(s). Is this supposed to represent the promises you say BEHL has broken? I don't see any use of the word "promise." The statements are of negotiations in progress. The use of the phrase "We'll see", etc are all forward looking statements. Things DF was working on many of which haven't happened yet. WIll they? No one knows. Broken promises? That is a BIG stretch.
Similar events occur in EVERY startup business. In my own experience, for every 100 leads I would think were going to be the wonderful for my company, fewer than five would actually happen. With the rest, the other company changed their mind or we were asked for something that we wouldn't/couldn't do.
Thanks for your wisdom on this matter. With most pinks what you say is true. However, some of us with "risk" capital, spend time looking for that diamond in the rough. Of seven pinks I have invested in, I have been burned once, done really, REALLY well on three, made a modest profit on the other three.
Do you own any BEHL?
I guess you are trying to say that Jobs and Woz walked into the garage one fine day and began selling the Apple I computer. No development, no R&D, no selling, no advertising, no nothing. Poof! One day, no product; the next day, raking in the money from sales.
Yeah! Right!
Somehow, there are some intermediate steps you are leaving out!
A typical company must 1) develop their product, 2) perfect it, 3) let the public know they exist, 4) sell the product and 5) support it. Repeat steps 2 through 5 as long as it they can continue getting sales. All the while back in the lab developing the next incarnation of the product. If you know how a business is run, then you know I am correct here.
Get it?
BEHL in steps 2 and 3.
Look for a better example next time. Comparing AAPL and BEHL falls FLAT--Unless you will compare AAPL in the mid-70s with BEHL right now. Get the history correct and you might have a fair comparison.
Again, taking my words out of context. I Wrote earlier that Apple did not START as a billion dollar company. It has taken 30+ years to get there. I doubt that anyone in the late 70s would have thought they would have any level of success--one could easily have said they were just a bunch of hype in someone's garage. The Apple I just about finished the company.
Same is true for BEHL today. You, and a number of others here, say that BEHL is all hype. I invest in BEHL not because they are a billion dollar company now, but because I think there is potential. Then end of the story is not here. Either of us COULD be right. If I'm wrong, I have just lost a small amount of money. If I am right, I will reap substantial rewards.
I really, REALLY don't need you trying to tell me that the only acceptable truth is whatever you write. Apple took a number of years to be a success. One CANNOT equate where Apple is now with where BEHL is NOW. This despite your apparent insistence that you can make that comparison.
Let's continue this conversation in 30 years. We will then know who was right.
Thanks for selectively extracting words from my comments. I don't see how a sale of a PBR is bad for BEHL which is exactly what your post said. I don't care whether Phaeton is democrat, republican, or libertarian or any of his other personal views. I don't even care if he likes (or hates) small rodents. I only care if Phaeton can write a check to BEHL. If he can, then he will help my bottom line. If he can't, it doesn't hurt me.
Funny how a perspective changes thinking. Somehow, IF Phaeton can pull of buying a BEHL PBR, that looks to me like revenue for BEHL. Kind of hard for me to see how that is bad! Perhaps you can help, how is Phaeton buying a BEHL PBR bad?
Some originality would be nice. I don't think it will happen in our lifetime.
Perhaps it is obvious, but Apple did NOT start out making billions. In fact, they have had a rather large share of duds and problem products. That includes the latest and supposedly greatest iphone. So how does BEHL make you think of Apple? Potential perhaps?
You may also wish to have some gum and a baloney sandwich with you as well; though probably not together.
There isn't much I can say about manipulation here without the post being deleted. So, my only recourse is to admit that, because of a number of detailed observations indicating manipulation, I am "paranoid".
Actually, I think gracie borrows links to other people's videos. I really don't she/he creates them. If you watch that video carefully, you can see that the green liquid from the PBR is mixing with the liquid already in the basin. I think the amount of liquid actually coming form the PBR is really relatively small.
There are enough people who seem to hate DF in So. Cal. He even referred to "pissing people off" on Friday. The sudden spurt from the PBR looks a lot like a gunshot from vandals. It probably isn't sabotage, but some BEHL (or DF) haters make it easy to be suspicious.
If you take those tinted glasses off, it is a pretty mild problem. The leak spilled into a basin mostly filled with water, so it looks worse that it is.
Thanks DF for turning the camera back on.