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None it is a pattern and charts with a minute by minute volume the thing will not match any charts available to public. It is old datek programming stuff. Wish i had people telling me lol
Tom, here is the 3.80 i promised you! Did you see my birthday message? No open your dang present so we can go higher, lol
Not yet next stop 3.92
It is when you are selling shares, i think some pre-planed is happening we shall see on friday
Here is what i see 3.83 gotta hold and break, 3.92 and 4.13, 4.25, 4.40 is all the key plaing arears for the mms and shorts. 3.83 is the big one and 4.25 second rest should be minimal.
Remember 3.83 is the key to 4
People, we don't need a pr it will do nothing, this is mms letting the shorts cover cheap that is all it will go higher and we will get a pacer soon enough, believe in what you invested in or take your profit and leave to another stock, the fun is happening now and you all just patient you will be surprised if you just relax and don't sell you are feeding them and keeping the stock suppressed. They will take it up. I am sure insiders sold some because it was pre-planed and then people will panic when they see that. Go see the dr and get zanax!
Hold and shut off computer till wednesday, check back around 1300 on wednesday.
Hope no one cause this will be higher the fun is just beginning
We go higher soon
Here is what may be happening, i think mms was collecting shares for a bear raid, saw this happen before on arna pre market high and lots of volume we shall see, hope it isn't. Now as far as people expecting pacer today well the clerk works 10-6pm so probably wont see any till 10:30 or after. Good luck hold your share there is lots more coming.
Tom, gooooooood morning and happy freakn birthday, i told ya it would be great !!!!
Ipity, it was provided in the exibit to 792, which is approved i am not going to rehash that crap no more but it is there and 792 is approved 100 percent you guys believe what you want believe the people who has done nothing to help you make money, i have showed you i helped you make money, i told you all that this was coming withing seven days, i also told you guys specific prices on the spikes, missed by a penny twice so who do you believe? Glta
Happy happy birthday Tom
In postyle defense i don't think he is short i think he sees it the way it could be, but he always give a great factual post on everything and does make you reevaluate things which is always good. He plays the safe route and is very honest. I just disagree with him sometimes and rouse him its all fun but he has a lot of knowledge so don't just disregard his points it could save you some cash. People give me a hard time and i used to get so pissed off till my meds got changed now i am back to even kilter. And i like everybody never met someone i didn't like. There are alot of great posters here that bring alot of knowledge never disregard anyone i learned that along time ago how i learnt to pattern stocks and made some dough. I thought the guy was a freak and man now he is a billionaire. So boy i was stupid at first and still say stupid things. I probably push my point too much sometime though. Thanks for agreeing with me but always weigh both sides it will save you and try not to offend anyone they have something you can learn.
Good one welcome out of the closet, lol i think it may hit 4.20 premarket i did earlier last week say we would be 3.80 or above and now i think i should have raised that. Hard to say i have seen this much hype and was disappointed before but this time i believe tutes will show up and take over we could close high 4's or into the low 5's anybodies guess i can not pattern this hype. So who knows i think we are going up for sure could see a halt tomorrow at open.
Because he has a malfunctioning calculator lol
Really the judge shows that he likes to let all the work get done by others, my guess only
Who thinks news tomorrow?? And who want to play a game with me?
Here is how you play you say pacer is a coming and post it here!!! And wala pacer appears that easy folks lol try it !
I still love ya man !!
It does say it cause it references the 792 at the top and he approved it but i now looked at it a different way and see what you say, is probably what he was meaning but i was trying to point out why he was wrong look at the order her said it is before the court and approved it not in part but in whole all i was trying to say. I was not trying to make him mad i like the guy i follow him on different forums. I really don't want to fight with anybody i am so happy we are getting our time now so lets go vringo!!!!!
Your wrong about me selling, i would like to hold longer and possibly will be able to now that we are running i will still have skin in the game, but has nothing to do with the courts order he did in fact approve the 20.9 and the 3.5 that is for sure. He has yet to determine the damages because of the fact of no revs reported for the period. And vringo could ask for willfulness but probably won't, and the judge can award any amount he choses, but you said google get to submit their damages report and they don't, now i always see u on the factual side and admire that about you but google is to respond only to the damages vringo submits the court will not take their numbers if they offer any and their response will be labeled response to damages not google and all the others damages calculation, because judge does mot want theirs. Now i am right about the 20.9 and the 3.5 until someone on this board can show me otherwise, so explain to my why you think it is not correct, just because he didn't spell it out in the order? Does the order reference the 792 document in anyway? If he didn't give a direction on the calculation how will vringo do their calculation? If vringo submits 5 percent the judge would hammer them and correct them to use 3.5 of 20.9 just like he instructed the jury to use what was already given, this is the judges style for judicial efficiency he don't like to repeat things. You have to understand the court system and how rulings work, he did in fact approve the 792 in its entirety and if you disagree instead of saying you do prove how it is wrong cause he clearly says vringos request is approved, so so me the proof that i am wrong, you want to stop people pumping and misinformation but cannot provide any references saying that he did not approve the 792. It is craziness to say he approved and then say the 20.9 is not when it is in the 792 he doesn't have to spell it out. He just has to give approval and he can deny in part any part if it and he didn't so the doc is approve the whole document he didn't strike any of it from the record so the facts are with me on this.
And i looked at the calendar wrong i don't have to sell till 13th see the reference to 792 at the top?
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/2:2011cv00512/271949/960/0.pdf?ts=1375536901
Would you like to wager since you are so confident, i am confident my brother, i will put whatever you like the statement of the damages to be determined means just that the amount because we do mot have the revenue numbers, you are the one wishing, read it for what it is not the base he approved the base with the 792 request you need to understand the court system my friend. This order goes with the 792 not canceling them out!
Have you ever heard of denying in part? Well he didn't do that here so the 792 in its entirety is approved period. The 3.5 and 20.9 is in stone. The jury even awarded the 3.5 and in his order he acknowledges it. He can award triple damages if he wants due to willfulness but vringo didn't request it at trial, so he won't. They may in their brief coming up but they would be fools to because they had to do it at trial.
So you are wrong and reading and assuming things i am not assuming anything the facts support me if you disagree prove me wrong by showing me how the court system works and why i am wrong i pointed out how you was wrong you just throw out that i wish that is bullcrap and you know it produce facts you are so good at that remember. Show me where he denied the 20.9 and 3.5 of 792 in part you cant, so do t comment on it no more if you don't understand it you are trying to say you know and you obviously don't. Now i guess you come back with you have always been so wrong and predicted this or that blah blah blah, has nothing to do with this my friend i am right prove you theory, show me where he denied vringo 20.9 and 3.5 he didn't he approved it!!!
Your post is totally wrong show me the specific words you used to say google gets to submit a calculation, they don't just get to say why they disagree or agree, now they may put a calculation in there but the judge doesnt want them to do any calculation, now you always call people out for posting false or misleading info now you are doing it why?
Listen, you all are not reading he is not asking google for their input on the numbers, he asked vringo and he did it because they had the evidence in the trial of 3.5, 20.9, so he asked for the calculation and google gets to say why they disagree. Not submit theirs, otherwise vringo would get to reply to their reply. Stop looking for negatives you either believe in what you invested in or not. If you are shakey then get the hell out we don't need your type selling into our spikes. Read my post earlier the judge did say 3.5 percent he didnt have to say 20.9 because it is a given.
Now as far as people saying the price will come back down tomorrow then sell, because we are going higher, remember when we had the google and vringo was in talks for settlement where did we go ? The high of 5.73 now this is different because this shows that the judge is awarding things exactly like he was told in the trial by the jury and the witnesses of vringo. Which means 7 percent is probably more definite now then before.
Now the reason vringo gets to calculate and not google because they are awarded their royality base!!!! Period end of decussion. If you petition the court and ask for a hundred dollars in a suit and the judge say i approve the plantiffs motion, he doesnt have to repeat the 100 dollars for it to be what was awarded. He approved the 792 and gave his reasons in the document i sent earlier i will repost here! He doesnt have to say anything about the numbers at all because they are in the order if he was not granting the 20.9 and 3.5 then he would have to say so by approving in part and denying in part, understand get it into your stupid heads and talk about something that you understand like oh i am so scared to hold it could go down blah blah blah!!! Put in your stop loss and move out of the way cause we do go higher then 3.74. You might just be shocked!!
Now stop the hours of crap and lets talk how we are going to Vegas and gonna shit our pants cause we are so filthy rich and drunk. Negativity is why this stock always sells of that and everyone not believing in what they invested in. The judge is going by all of vringos numbers that is fact. Reread the order this time act like you are not trying to see which direction the stock will go, dont read anything into it except what it is. It is explaining why he approved 792 and what steps are next. Period also the reason he says to be determined is because we dont have googles numbers that is all not we don't have the base. Remember what i said if you are guilty of a fifty dollar fine does the judge have to repeat the fifty dollar number no, let me repeat no.
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/2:2011cv00512/271949/960/0.pdf?ts=1375536901
Actually the businesses close on the 16th i looked at calender wrong i have to have three days for the money so not this coming week but next, sux to be retired lol lost track of the days. Sold all my other positions and almost sold this till i saw the pattern working so i got lucky.
Yea but they can ot because the only proof we and the courts have is the verdict form that says 3.5 percent it is in the doc i posted and the judge did sign this one. So it is done
The whole document, noone posted this yet
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/2:2011cv00512/271949/960/0.pdf?ts=1375536901
Marking this post lol might just happen
Heard that i could be wrong have been numerous times and i did see goog does respond so sorry and love to meet ya.
What would google counter they have no reply here just report your revs and be done woth it he said no reply.
I do now positively think we see 7 percent or higher of the 20.9 percent this is why. The judge and yes i am patterning him or atleast trying to, lol seems to follow the proposal and the jury decisions. So he just approved viringo's 792 with 3.5 of 20.9! So i now think he will approve the 7 of 20.9 because of the pattern he has shown, i was thinking and was one of the first to ever post 5.5 percent but now i see a judge who lets the work get done for him. I E vrng proposals. So we shall see but i am all in for 7 percent of 20.9 he could go higher but i fell his approval of 792 is establishing the 3.5 percent and he will double it maybe higher but i feel not lower because he will punish google for slamming him in appeal. Lol
Okay i see where you got confused, he said the damages to be determined, that is the total after the google reports their revs, not the base that is why he wanted viringo to submit the calculation and the order is approving all the proposed in the 792 which is 20.9 and 3.5 that is what it is i guarantee it is correct. I will post the statement. All the to be determined is because we cannot set it till revs are reported. That is all he is saying.'
Docket Text: MEMORANDUM OPINION & ORDER that I/P Engine is entitled to supplemental damages for October 1, 2012 to November 20, 2012, in an amount to be determined, prejudgment interest in an amount to be determined from September 15, 2011 to November 20, 2012, and post-judgment interest for Defendants' infringement in an amount to be determined. Accordingly, I/P Engine's [792] motion is GRANTED; that the defendants are to provide an accounting of revenue for the accused products through the date of judgment, November 20, 2012, WITHIN 15 DAYS OF THE ENTRY OF THIS ORDER. (See Order for further specifics). Signed by District Judge Raymond A. Jackson and filed on 8/1/2013. (rsim, )
You misread he said the rr to be determined. Not the base rate. Also he said what the jury awarded if i remember correctly. I will reread it and see
I see it that way also, don't know my pattern shows the news event but doesn't distinguish which so by it not being the rr i am unsure now. I said news changes it all and the only reason i could see for it not hitting also is he may have sent to lawyers to pr. Hope that is the case. The legal minds think it is coming monday. I sure hope so. But i read it differently like you do. Gltu
Yes but it is what was approved 100 percent no change so i was trying to help, the other didnt have the 3.5 of 20.9 that the judge approved but he appoved all the proposals of the doc i posted so it is what he approved.
Still want me to stop?
Nice post but you failed to see that if the stock is halted monday soon after the market opens and pr hits with rr of 5 percent the stock should open back around 133 percent. So i like your logic but you seem a little low. And i disagree investors this stock is in the perfect storm right now because of stocks that hit recently and people need to go somewhere and guess where they coming to on monday. This weekend was perfect for the news to make its rounds. They will try to power us down on monday but will propel us higher. Magic number is 3.83. And it is game on. This is a freight train now shorts are in trouble. The only pray they have is if the stock is not halted and no ruling on rr comes out they can cover cheaper. But you know news is a coming. Just not when.
Always enjoy you post keep it up, i feed off of you. Makes me better at what i do so thanks
I did get it to work it is a true doc
I said we would have a gapper for monday pm did anybody read that?
correct me if i am wrong but the post judgement cannot be calculated without the rr so we will see ruling next week is the way i see that. it probably got sent to lawyers today and will be in the system monday or goes out monday and get in tuesday.
Looks like it may be earlier then i thought