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Sure go ahead, please offer my apologies for the draft's rotten grammar.
I disagree on one point Jack, I know for a fact that ENZC released the IP's back into their original private ownership, that was never given up in the first place. ENZC never 'owned' those IP's, they only had access to them. (A primary point in Zhabilov's illegal attempt to sell BGEN, IP's included, which he had access to, but not control over.)
Adnexus can start legal, public operations at any time, unless a TRO or other court injunction shuts them down for due process reasons.
GLTA
And btw, one of the legal maneuvers which Charles may employ to test the waters and hope for the best, would be to simply send us back a notice to "Cease and Desist all communication attempts, because you don't have a case." And probably not even bother to sign it. (Standard initial deflection for a class-action warning).
You know that's what Chandra will do in any case. Charles and Joe, probably tired as hell over ENZC litigations, might decide to feel this out directly and actually communicate. This is hardly a dismissible complaint based upon lack of merits, like some of their past lawsuits
And then the next step will ensue, the 'Letter of Intent to Sue', this time signed by myself and at least one co-counsel.
Just FYI, these matters don't have to be drawn out too long, but there is a path necessary to ensure a successful hearing date.
GLTA
Thanks, I was getting P-O'ed at myself for all of the grammar errors I had in the draft version, think we rewrote it about 5+ times over the past 2 weeks before sending it off yesterday.
I sent many of you the link to the draft copy of the notice which was sent by certified mail to the CCC group, all of them. This draft copy had several grammatical and one spelling error in it that were corrected prior to sending out yesterday. We kept getting delayed in promised transmittal dates, primarily because my full-time job is taking more of my schedule than usual the past couple of weeks. This is only step 1 of a several-steps process. The shareholder website going up to help coordinate the legal action is almost finished in its conceptual draft now, I'll put that online as well, the day the web developer's get their orders to execute the design and go live with it. All qualified ENZC shareholders will be invited, anyone we know to contact.
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We've begun to release info or organizing a legal case process. This is the first piece, our notification to the CCC group, basically to take positive action on our part or else.
Reads like a polite warning and an earnest attempt to talk it out, and it could wind up that way, but it's also a legal step in a potential class action prior to an actual "Letter of Intent to Sue" so we're going by the legal numbers here.
The link to a draft-copy of what was sent to all of them:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r3t6y7s14s84qrr2nxwye/Initial-Notice-Letter-to-Charles-Cotropia_1.pdf?rlkey=eda97x6v8wfmdyvm82m1yuail&st=64abln18&dl=0
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I appreciate the opinion, but what I post publicly and what I'd execute privately as this grinds down to a legal filing, you may find to be two really different things.
Feelings expressed are for negotiating in good faith, and, keeping a legal advantage at its best high ground. If I were to go into a room with an emotional Uzi strapped at my side, we'd lose a lot of options that could come up.
My company lawyers trained me well about 28 years ago, when we became profitable enough to be attacked by bad partners or contract abusers. In our past 30 years of doing business, at no fault of our own, we were pressed upon with frivolous legal claims about a half-dozen times. Each time we won easily, simply because we planned out and kept lips tightly adhered to professional communications. (No matter how badly we wanted to tear some heads off.) Our attorney's easily saw I was a good businessman, but had a knack for popping off with more ire than smarts back in my early 30's. Now, they've got me circling combatants in the water silently and pleasantly, just waiting to attack like a shark to sink the opposition painfully, with nothing but soft words and polite gestures just ahead of executing the carnage. You learn a lot if you listen with experience at your side.
We're all frayed to bare threads over this crap ENZC left us stuck in, and we might get lucky, being able to press a solution for shareholders here, simply because CCC and ENZC managed the mess so badly, leaving themselves quite vulnerable. I don't have huge hopes over this, but don't mind doing what's right either, even if it costs me a little more.
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Possible, they do have 1-2 BP suitors lined up, but it's not an easy sell looking upwards at a potential licensing partner.
Can't do anything but agree with that.
A little more maturity and responsibility would have gone a long way with him. We're about to find out what the Cotropia's think about it over the next two weeks.
Prison time is a possibility, but since the dissolution of the past ENZC ownership and management will be a tricky sell, as to where to pin the most blame, and for CCC their first ever legal violations ever probably, I see more of a case with fines paid out, over time and probation, that kind of stuff.
The real incentive is that legal action could temporarily shut down Adnexus, since the IP transfer and ownership + operations matches exactly from ENZC over to Adnexus. That makes the case for fraud pretty impregnable. The legal operations of any company with these owners and those IP's could be subject to indefinite suspension of business operations, until they settle out an agreement with shareholders.
I'm not a lawyer or judge, but I did play a lawyer on TV once.
In any case, I'm certain a hearing is an easy win, with current evidence at hand and the split that occurred at ENZC back in March. It made the case for fraud an easy one, another case of business violations may be another. A judge would decide whether it moves forward as a pure case of defrauding investors, or if more fraud gets discovered, a more thorough case of securities fraud.
Our best bet at this moment. Chandra's really turned out as a piss-poor leader and businessman, ethics fleeing with his ego strokes. Too bad, I had higher hopes for him and his new company.
I agree Blue, but I doubt they'll do it without conditions or a conversion. One, any new funding partner won't be too keen covering debts CCC brought with them to Adnexus, there's enough in the remaining legacy shareholder pot to cost them quite a bit if a lot cashed out early, just looking to get even money back into their account.
Two, a 1:1 conversion would be great, but I don't think they'd want to have someone verify all of the brokerage account reports to qualify an investor into Adnexus for that special deal.
One of my resolution proposals to Charles was to take Adnexus public, open shares at .15c pps, and give all ENZC shareholders a .01c buy-in option for 5 working days after sending in their brokerage reports, proving what ENZC shares they have/had. Only those holding Legacy shares up to say, 1/1//2017 - 7/30/2024 would qualify. (Something like that.) There may be legal issues on offering free shares from another separate entity. They'd have to do some very creative filings to protect that. The conversion notes could also restrict anyone from selling any shares they get by say 6/9 month's time. This can be done legally, but that 1:1 conversion may not be so legal unless CCC suddenly became owners of ENZC again.
Based upon Chandra's remarks and arrogance today, it sounds like whatever plan Chandra was touting, got quashed. Also sounds like he doesn't care anymore. Not sure of this, but he leaves crappy appearances as of late. He did not leave any detail, but his last 3 Twitter/X comments about shareholders at ENZC were less than respectful and even more uncaring.
Personally, I'd like to invite him to a manners class out in my backyard.
GLTA
There were only two real ways they could help the ENZC legacy shareholders and one way, I believe they planned, was to acquire Adnexus with a legal maneuver to corner Harry, and stock prices so low it could be easily absorbed.
But it sounds like, from the evasive Chandra, that the legal maneuver probably failed, and he just doesn't want to hear about it anymore.
Second option, in his purview, would be to open Adnexus publicly at .15c pps or higher and provide ENZC shareholders a .01c pps proffer good for like 5 working days. It would take someone on the Adnexus side to verify stockholder account reports to verify them, but at least this way, you'd provide them some restored value and you could also put in a stipulation on the share's disbursement, that the holder could not sell any of their shares for 6-9 months. Protects the company, is legal, and might not cost the company any losses, if they do produce.
I know Cotropia and Chandra are well aware of this.
Adnexus could offer a 1:1 share match, but I doubt they do. Their new funding partner, if viable, may not like covering their (ENZC- CCC's) past mess with the previous ENZC shareholders.
I smell lawyers in my future. The first class-action firm I contacted regarding this matter, in Houston, has requested more information from me.
Dr Chandra does have a wildly arrogant streak in him. Can't be bothered, "once he's tried to help", never realizing, just like his blind Twitter Pumpers, that you don't help by telling someone to just spend more money on a new company after stealing more from them in his old company the first time around.
I travel in a lot of the same circles the Cotropias travel around in while out and about in the Greater Houston area and the DFW are-span up north of us. I really can't wait to meet up with them in person some time, should be a loud event to attend. (I can be very loud in public places.)
If we didn't believe Chandra and Adnexus really do have the goods, and the potential, and the serious obligation to the shareholders, I'd have been gone from it all long ago. Chandra sees justified obligation and responsibility a little different when he waddles out of sight than the rest of us do. I bet he walks across the room like Lindsey Graham.
Most every company in the OTC:PINK stocks that are CBD-anything are either frauds or small operations that never knew their slim chances already died. I've monitored about 120 of them in the recent past, count in my list of those I still check on, has dropped to about 27, and still shrinking.
The one thing about 1606 Corp funding Adnexus, is that 1606 never had any money, not really. The parent Corp, SinglePoint does and fundraises pretty decently when they want to get more. Two companies in their 7-company portfolio of start-ups are doing well, the rest are just Democrat dreams on the left, hard uphill battle to make work.
Since the Chicago Exchange crashed into nothingness recently, and SinglePoint was on that exchange, no one really knows their current financial status. Could be decent, might be pure 'chit. Chandra may find out soon, that his LOI from 1606-CBDW is about as promising as the one Harry contrived from SAGA-loseriam. There is a better chance that SinglePoint will fund Adnexus through little brother's 1606 Corp as a shell holding, and turn $CBDW into $ADNX$ soon. Just one rumored possibility with educated guesses.
If you were involved, you'd know that Panther always wanted Dr. Chandra's promises to be real. After yesterday, he's offered a full testimony and deposition to whatever law firm sues them. Our guys know Panther well.
And he's not the only one. BTW, Becky is not scared of anyone, she's being diplomatic as I was, hanging out a carrot for Chandra to do the right thing, and ready to use a big stick if he does not, rather soon I'd guess. Becky has a lot of media clout if she decides to use it, like I'm already in the process of doing now.
This time, Charles gets his last chance to respond. Documents already transmitted.
That's been going on forever you twit.
Rebecca is an X-friend of mine, and her remark to Chandra was quite tame to compared to mine idiot. You should really not be allowed to social media access, you're a danger to yourself kid. You still can't read can you? Shame, left behind in elementary school must have been devasting for you.
Yeah, dumb@$$, I'm one of the ones leading the blasting over there on X, you idiot.
With Chandra's evasive and dispassionate answers today on 'X', I'm inclined to agree on all points. He could actually be uniting all shareholders, patient and incensed right now, for a huge Adnexus launch, but so far nothing that even remotely resembles true leadership or shareholder interests from the man.
I'll be interested to see what the Cotropia's do with the certified legal letter of intentions we just sent to them all.
The SinglePoint / 1606 Corp backing of Adnexus is light in the pockets too,. Reports and funding stipulations very weak right now,, but insiders are saying that's due more to their old exchange closing down, than to their actual business status. We'll see.
GLTA
Anyone ever think that TradingG is Dr. Gaurav Chandra? Only bashing himself and ENZC altogether, so that no investors here bother to chase them down later over at Adnexus as ENZC bottoms out?
Discuss amongst yourselves..... 🤪
Thanks Dr, not necessary, but the thought is truly appreciated. If IHub were not malfunctioning so much as of late, I'd already be back on PMs. Talk soon.
For everyone else, a copy of the transmitted certified letter, just sent to the Cotropia home(s), will have the link to it sent on PM's here this next week. An update on website progress will also be provided about organizing the cast against ENZC and the former ENZC principals over at Adnexus.
Ironman, duly noted, will get you updated soon. OOTC, and Dr Humi, no problems here, moving forward.
I believe our buddies are doing this now SA. I just downloaded the original article of the old ENZC launch from a link there one of them sent me. It's been added to the evidence archive. More to come.
It's going to be hairy timing of a plan Swamp. It Chandra or the Cotropia's give us one really good reason to not execute the website operation, which will be in the works regardless by end of next week, we'll scrap it and wait on their offering to resolve this.
If not, once we fund it, we're not going back on anything we plan on doing with the website including filing the case for a hearing. BTW, we have the funds for building, operating and updating the website, so we won't be asking for any $$$. (That could come up in getting the right attorney later.) So, It's not going to cost us much to execute this. Then everyone can take part in it. We will regulate the website so that contributors will have to keep it true and accurate, when submitting evidence files, screenshots and opinions.
A certified letter is going out to the Cotropias tomorrow. (Regarding the new operations to get a court hearing on this.) For any and all here, get your copies of websites (ENZC, Bioclinetcis, SAGA, Sagaliasm, the SAGA Deal papers, ENZC PR's and webpages bolding promising great success on all Clone3/7 work and products, the old ENZC partners page, since its almost a clone of the current Adnexus partners page, etc.. etc... We'll need everyone's help on every promised ever made on Clone3/7, Chandra's AI and the Intel Virus Mapping program. Get the screenshot copies of the CCC group and Harry from the ENZC website before they can delete it now. Get all filings from ENZC and SAGA leading up to the 3/2024 management split and IP re-assignments.
We'll be organizing all materials for court, should we have to go get that hearing date.
GLTA
Hey Epic,
All of their bankable Intellectual Properties (IP's) are long gone, everything else they're claiming is a complete scam. If anyone calls the county authorities where Harry Z lives in, you could probably have the guy arrested. It's a bankrupt operation, last filing proves its insolvency, so shares are getting liquidated, re-diluted and liquidated again.
There is a chance Adnexus Biotech, where the IP's are right now, might come up with a shareholder remedy for the ENZC shareholders, and then again, maybe not. It's a suck-@$$ situation, but Adnexus is moving on with exactly what used to be here in ENZC, with a larger, more qualified team this time.
No one knows for certain, and many of us are making plans, IF Adnexus moves on with profitable operations on the same IP's they promised here, and left shareholders holding the debt. It's complicated, but the CCC old part of ENZC shares liability over this with Harry Zhabilov, so, we'll just see. I'm hoping Adnexus reaches out to help with this, because if they do not, they may find out a lot of defrauded OTC:Pink shareholders are not so easy to shake.
GLTY
Hey Epic,
All of their bankable Intellectual Properties (IP's) are long gone, everything else they're claiming is a complete scam. If anyone calls the county authorities where Harry Z lives in, you could probably have the guy arrested. It's a bankrupt operation, last filing proves its insolvency, so shares are getting liquidated, re-diluted and liquidated again.
There is a chance Adnexus Biotech, where the IP's are right now, might come up with a shareholder remedy for the ENZC shareholders, and then again, maybe not. It's a suck-@$$ situation, but Adnexus is moving on with exactly what used to be here in ENZC, with a larger, more qualified team this time.
No one knows for certain, and many of us are making plans, IF Adnexus moves on with profitable operations on the same IP's they promised here, and left shareholders holding the debt. It's complicated, but the CCC old part of Adnexus shares liability over this with Harry Zhabilov, so, we'll just see. Ihoping Adnexus reaches out to help with this, because if they do not, they may find out a lot of defrauded OTC:Pink shareholders are not so easy to shake.
GLTY
No idea why that last post went up 4 times folks. Sorry, I only typed and posted that once. After I hit 'submit' the ENZC page wouldn't even reload for me and most of the site crashed on my end for about 15 minutes.
GLTA
Damn Squid, has any of these pathetically immature "investors" below realize 'Defense Atomics' is a fake company shell? We try to warn them fairly, and they just cuss and make threats, (BTW make them to my face scam-ees!) And they keep holding for dear life on this junk. Sue what's left of the fake Halberd clowns, maybe get more than what the current pps is right now.
Good lord.
I make no secret of how we're trying to maintain a line of open communication with him, (Chandra) or what we'll do to act if nothing happens for ENZC shareholders on the part of Adnexus. And yes, I solicit him regularly over on 'X' for more, fairly disclosed information. You've only very selectively posted one of my queries to him. (Wonder why that is?)
And you do nothing. Document all you want, nothing on me contradicts what I've said here all along or what I'm doing now along with the others Dr. Chandra spoke directly with.
Well, TradingPee, keep looking incompetent with your random disses, that make no sense by the way. But thanks for saying "I love Dr. Chandra." I don't think he believes that right now. Trying to be fair to all parties involved is a tough thing sometimes, one reason you never even attempt to do it.
For everyone else, new website coming in late October, I think is the time schedule. I have to get back to the web developers for the site where we'll be helping coordinate possible legal operations should Adnexus do nothing for the ENZC shareholder. This gets funded late next week or the week just after, if we hear nothing back from Dr. Chandra or the Cotropias, the Cotropias being contacted now about this. Once that website is funded, all parties involved in it have agreed we're not going back if we're asked to later. You'll be able to submit your opinions, screenshots, files etc.. as evidence for a case of defrauding ENZC investors. We tie this into a dropbox account as well, making a repository of evidence. More details to come. It's also step 1 of prepping a good attorney who agrees to take the case. This will be a class-action operation, so online contributors will be accepted, download and investment report from your broker of shares you currently have with ENZC, or maybe had to sell off a huge loss for your records. You can't be included if you are not willing to provide that to a lawyer drafting acceptable class action rules in his proceeding.
Some folks here won't be allowed into this website for obvious reasons, like the little moron referenced above.
We do have the new URL/Website name that I'll reuse for other company operations once the ENZC shareholder matter is settled, whatever that turns out to be as an end result. I'll send this out as soon as the funding date for the website is agreed upon, so you can be watching for it. More details to come.
GLTA
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I make no secret of how we're trying to maintain a line of open communication with him, (Chandra) or what we'll do to act if nothing happens for ENZC shareholders on the part of Adnexus. And yes, I solicit him regularly over on 'X' for more, fairly disclosed information. You've only very selectively posted one of my queries to him. (Wonder why that is?)
And you do nothing. Document all you want, nothing on me contradicts what I've said here all along or what I'm doing now along with the others Dr. Chandra spoke directly with.
Well, TradingPee, keep looking incompetent with your random disses, that make no sense by the way. But thanks for saying "I love Dr. Chandra." I don't think he believes that right now. Trying to be fair to all parties involved is a tough thing sometimes, one reason you never even attempt to do it.
For everyone else, new website coming in late October, I think is the time schedule. I have to get back to the web developers for the site where we'll be helping coordinate possible legal operations should Adnexus do nothing for the ENZC shareholder. This gets funded late next week or the week just after, if we hear nothing back from Dr. Chandra or the Cotropias, the Cotropias being contacted now about this. Once that website is funded, all parties involved in it have agreed we're not going back if we're asked to later. You'll be able to submit your opinions, screenshots, files etc.. as evidence for a case of defrauding ENZC investors. We tie this into a dropbox account as well, making a repository of evidence. More details to come. It's also step 1 of prepping a good attorney who agrees to take the case. This will be a class-action operation, so online contributors will be accepted, download and investment report from your broker of shares you currently have with ENZC, or maybe had to sell off a huge loss for your records. You can't be included if you are not willing to provide that to a lawyer drafting acceptable class action rules in his proceeding.
Some folks here won't be allowed into this website for obvious reasons, like the little moron referenced above.
We do have the new URL/Website name that I'll reuse for other company operations once the ENZC shareholder matter is settled, whatever that turns out to be as an end result. I'll send this out as soon as the funding date for the website is agreed upon, so you can be watching for it. More details to come.
GLTA
GLTA
I make no secret of how we're trying to maintain a line of open communication with him, (Chandra) or what we'll do to act if nothing happens for ENZC shareholders on the part of Adnexus. And yes, I solicit him regularly over on 'X' for more, fairly disclosed information. You've only very selectively posted one of my queries to him. (Wonder why that is?)
And you do nothing. Document all you want, nothing on me contradicts what I've said here all along or what I'm doing now along with the others Dr. Chandra spoke directly with.
Well, TradingPee, keep looking incompetent with your random disses, that make no sense by the way. But thanks for saying "I love Dr. Chandra." I don't think he believes that right now. Trying to be fair to all parties involved is a tough thing sometimes, one reason you never even attempt to do it.
For everyone else, new website coming in late October, I think is the time schedule. I have to get back to the web developers for the site where we'll be helping coordinate possible legal operations should Adnexus do nothing for the ENZC shareholder. This gets funded late next week or the week just after, if we hear nothing back from Dr. Chandra or the Cotropias, the Cotropias being contacted now about this. Once that website is funded, all parties involved in it have agreed we're not going back if we're asked to later. You'll be able to submit your opinions, screenshots, files etc.. as evidence for a case of defrauding ENZC investors. We tie this into a dropbox account as well, making a repository of evidence. More details to come. It's also step 1 of prepping a good attorney who agrees to take the case. This will be a class-action operation, so online contributors will be accepted, download and investment report from your broker of shares you currently have with ENZC, or maybe had to sell off a huge loss for your records. You can't be included if you are not willing to provide that to a lawyer drafting acceptable class action rules in his proceeding.
Some folks here won't be allowed into this website for obvious reasons, like the little moron referenced above.
We do have the new URL/Website name that I'll reuse for other company operations once the ENZC shareholder matter is settled, whatever that turns out to be as an end result. I'll send this out as soon as the funding date for the website is agreed upon, so you can be watching for it. More details to come.
GLTA
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I make no secret of how we're trying to maintain a line of open communication with him, (Chandra) or what we'll do to act if nothing happens for ENZC shareholders on the part of Adnexus. And yes, I solicit him regularly over on 'X' for more, fairly disclosed information. You've only very selectively posted one of my queries to him. (Wonder why that is?)
And you do nothing. Document all you want, nothing on me contradicts what I've said here all along or what I'm doing now along with the others Dr. Chandra spoke directly with.
Well, TradingPee, keep looking incompetent with your random disses, that make no sense by the way. But thanks for saying "I love Dr. Chandra." I don't think he believes that right now. Trying to be fair to all parties involved is a tough thing sometimes, one reason you never even attempt to do it.
For everyone else, new website coming in late October, I think is the time schedule. I have to get back to the web developers for the site where we'll be helping coordinate possible legal operations should Adnexus do nothing for the ENZC shareholder. This gets funded late next week or the week just after, if we hear nothing back from Dr. Chandra or the Cotropias, the Cotropias being contacted now about this. Once that website is funded, all parties involved in it have agreed we're not going back if we're asked to later. You'll be able to submit your opinions, screenshots, files etc.. as evidence for a case of defrauding ENZC investors. We tie this into a dropbox account as well, making a repository of evidence. More details to come. It's also step 1 of prepping a good attorney who agrees to take the case. This will be a class-action operation, so online contributors will be accepted, download and investment report from your broker of shares you currently have with ENZC, or maybe had to sell off a huge loss for your records. You can't be included if you are not willing to provide that to a lawyer drafting acceptable class action rules in his proceeding.
Some folks here won't be allowed into this website for obvious reasons, like the little moron referenced above.
We do have the new URL/Website name that I'll reuse for other company operations once the ENZC shareholder matter is settled, whatever that turns out to be as an end result. I'll send this out as soon as the funding date for the website is agreed upon, so you can be watching for it. More details to come.
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I'll do that, and the new website where we're organizing the case against Harry and CCC should Adnexus not provide any shareholder solution. I'll buy another month of private messaging again, share the names and the website address that will be up in a few weeks. The other Chandra contactees, are working with me on input for what the new website will need for ENZC shareholders to use it in the most productive way. 1st draft for review goes out tomorrow.
A few folks here won't be getting this info.
GLTA
Nothing would surprise me at this point.
I can send some names talking about it over on X. Give me a few days, I'm heading out of town for a Tradeshow early morning tomorrow. I'll send the online account names of some of them all asking to participate.
GLTA
This one I bash since it's' been a scam since company inception, and that last PR reads like a bad deep fake. For no other reason. Proven scams I don't forget.
Losers hang on when others warn them. I don't bash any stock much at all, not even ones that are just performance dogs, but if they are proven scams like HALB (?) No problem and I don't do it often either.
Bug off kid. Adults here now to protect your $$$, if you have any left at this point.
Sure. Have not owned a share of this for over 6 years now. After researching it closely, and discovering all of the scam operations, I go out at even money. The rest of you, I feel sorry for.
Your little blastoff rocket is grounded at this :"launch site".
LMAO!