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This mess is a pump and dump WASH AND REPEAT.
It would have to go up to 4 dollars per share for most
shareholders to get their money back.
---and---
What will happen is; Their will be a fake run to get
new investors interested, then it will plummet back down huge.
In the meantime At some point ; They will dump a boat load of shares on the OS and start the game all over.
Chances are great - It will never get to $4 per share.
and We will never break even.
As far as Arscd ; many of us need it to get to around 50 dollars per share ; so that is a total lost cost to ever break even.
THIS HAS EVERY SIGN OF A SCAM - IF YOUR GOING TO INVEST DO IT AND JUMP BACK OUT A QUICK AS YOU CAN - TO HOLD IS FLURTING WITH DEATH.
Hey buddy - Were going to miss hearing from you around here.
Stop by and say hi from time to time.
Best of luck
ps: I have to just stay around - I lost huge
I saw the signs of a setup and switch game player; when they never announced a cut off date to the share buyers alleged dividends.
That told me everything was not well in Fairytale land.
That's why I tried to warn people about
<HFCO> ; knowing the same crap was soon to follow
In some form or another.
Although; I assumed Those Short Termers who greased in and bought in at .0001 within the last three yrs. or so; expecting to reap the same profits as the true long term holders.
I am (not talking about those true Long Termers
who averaged down somewhat)
I thought they would at least get their money back. or even make a small profit; I guess I may have been really wrong on that one .
First of all it was 150 to one.
not 250.
And second: We all got screwed big-time.
and deceived in a big manner, because it was not supposed to split until after the 150 to one; dividends had been issued.
<< Most ARSCD Longs are Not Happy Period. >>
The only True Fact is:
ARSCD TOOK ALL OUR MONEY AND DID A MAJOR R/S TO LEAVE THE LONG
HOLDING SHAREHOLDERS WITH ZIPPPPPP
THEN: the second Fact is Most True Long term holders bought
somewhere between .o6 and .01
So in short, the Long Term Shareholders will Never Recover their money not even if the r/s went up to 10.00 per share.
The R/s screwed us all. and Hfco Will eventually r/s and screw it's shareholders just as bad.
Those are facts: you can count on
We (The True ARSCD Longs) Got Screwed big time,
and a Reverse /Split to Hfco is coming;
to continue screwing those who are left.
Now-- These are facts you can count on; And take to the bank.
Those are facts: you can count on
We (The True ARSCD Longs) Got Screwed big time,
and a Reverse /Split to Hfco is coming;
to continue screwing those who are left.
Now-- These are facts you can count on; And take to the bank.
The only True Fact is:
ARSCD TOOK ALL OUR MONEY AND DID A MAJOR R/S TO LEAVE THE LONG
HOLDING SHAREHOLDERS WITH ZIPPPPPP
THEN: the second Fact is Most True Long term holders bought
somewhere between .o6 and .01
So in short, the Long Term Shareholders will Never Recover their money not even if the r/s went up to 10.00 per share.
The R/s screwed us all. and Hfco Will eventually r/s and screw it's shareholders just as bad.
Good Call___
Your almost right.
It will come in between .10 and .80; Then it will
drop down so fast our heads will spin.
till it get to almost nothing.
Unless:They Announce something Major, and believable
The best way to explain this is.
Billions and Billions of penny stocks are sold
at .000001 on a regular bases.
They care nothing about the stock only the VOLUME
They then turn around and sell them at .00001 and in some
cases They will find gullible Common stock buyers at .0001 or higher even.
Only about less than .o1% of Penny Stocks are legit.
The common stockholder never really has a chance, tho many
get lucky and fall between the cracks being at the right time;
and the right stock.
The unspoken truth is:
The stock markets are set up for the Rich, Common player are just
the daily fish in their game.
Millions are allowed to win Crum's off this trillion dollar Game; to keep the game flowing.
They fully control all buys and sells that transact.
Don't misunderstand ; I would be ecstatic to be proven wrong.
So - so happy to have called this one wrong. Unfortunately
I highly don't think so.
This one is a wash and a major loss to all.
Best wishes and high hopes for us all.
Peace.
And have a good holiday this year.
The chances are slim to none you will ever break even,
or even near even ever .
If it does go up to .80 cents it will be a fake rise, you will never get your shares sold, and it will drop back down just as quick.
Here is the most plausible case that will happen.
It will come back at .10 to .80 and quickly drop down to .05
to .01 then continue down to .001 --- .0005 .0001
your shares will most likely not sell till it get to .01 or lower
though a few will sell just to keep up the scam.
Then At some pt. They will announce a merger of
(1 share for every xx amount of shares) ; Which will completely whip all your losses completely out. to ZERO.
Caution ---
Hfco will soon follow suit in one form or another.
Their getting them for .oooo1
It's nothing but a flip for them, The name and business deal
means absolutely nothing to them.
They do this by the billions of many many stocks daily.
Strong Honest and Verifiable production news is
about the only thing that may have any since of a
chance of saving us.
Assuming they release that at the same
time the r/s results are being posted to our
accounts.
And don't forget; Most trading platforms will charge
our accounts 20 dollars or so, just for the adjustment
to our accounts.
Short of that , this will soon be at .01 to .001 /
and eventually it could see .0001 (Worse case scenario )
Strong Honest and Verifiable production news is
about the only thing that has any since of a
chance of saving us.
And they would have to release that at the same
time the r/s results are being posted to our
accounts.
And don't forget; Most trading platforms will charge
our accounts 20 dollars or so, just for the adjustment
to our accounts.
The problem is. It closed out at .00001 so most likely it will open up at .08 with the new R/S shares.
and then their will be so many rushing to get out ;
it will quickly drop to .01
this horse runs a lose - lose race.
And -no- we (arsc shareholders) As far as I can tell;
DO NOT have preferred shared.
Were whipped and beat bagholders. period -Loosers
As far as the dividends go, that was a joke on us.
and for once frank will have told the truth and it comes on
at .08 + as he projected to our detriment.
Then Hfco will run the same race and soon r/s to nothing.
So: If you had 140,000,000
You will soon have 17,500 shares valued at .08 for 1,400.
Now it could open at .80, Should they decide it closed at .0001 -But don't count on anything with this company.
The problem is. ARSCD closed out at .00001 so most likely it will open up at .08 with the new R/S shares.
and then their will be so many rushing to get out ;
it will quickly drop to .01
this horse runs a lose - lose race.
And -no- we (arsc shareholders) As far as I can tell;
DO NOT have preferred shared.
Were whipped and beat bagholders. period -Loosers
As far as the dividends go, that was a joke on us.
and for once frank will have told the truth and it comes on
at .08 + as he projected to our detriment.
Then Hfco will run the same race and soon r/s to nothing.
So: If you had 140,000,000
You will soon have 17,500 shares valued at .08 for 1,400.
Now it could open at .80, Should they decide it closed at .0001 -But don't count on anything with this company.
The problem is. It closed out at .00001 so most likely it will open up at .08 with the new R/S shares.
and then their will be so many rushing to get out ;
it will quickly drop to .01
this horse runs a lose - lose race.
As far as the dividends go, that was a turd on us.
Then Hfco will run the same race and soon r/s to nothing.
So: If you had 140,000,000
You will soon have 17,500 shares valued at .08 for 1,400.
Now it could open at .80, Should they decide it closed at .0001 -But don't count on anything with this company.
http://mythoughtsontechnologyandjamaica.blogspot.com/2013/11/2014-hyundai-tucson-suv-to-be-launched.html
And this will Not do squat for hfco.
Three Words to the new and gullible investors; DON'T DO IT .
HFCO is a dying stock.
and will soon go the way of Arsc.
Their may still be a few tricks up their sleeve, Which will
give die hard's hope, BUT don't be fooled; <We are soon DEAD>
No matter what happens in the fuel cell industry, it will
Not help HFCO one bit.
No company without a production -
- nor a distribution plant will get a boost from Toyota - Honda - Nissan or any other marketing news.
Especially with Arsc/Hfco's historic anvil around their necks.
Not only is this a dying ship, but it will drag as many bag holders and suckers down with it as possible.
Don't be a statistic like me - and many other victims .
Watch and learn.
As the sane goes:
Fool us once - shame on you.
Fool us twice and shame on us.
Sad as it may be. Don't get fooled into loosing more income
in this Junk stock .
Since I'm not going to argue with anyone.
I'll just say this to the new and innocent investors.
HFCO is a dying stock.
and will soon go the way of Arsc.
Their may still be a few tricks up their sleeve, Which will
give die hard's hope, BUT don't be fooled; <We are soon DEAD>
No matter what happens in the fuel cell industry, it will
Not help HFCO one bit.
Sad as it may be. Don't get fooled into loosing more income
in this Junk stock .
Even if by some magical mystic mojo this does take off after
such reversal; you will not be a player as you will have lost most of to all of your assets anyway.
If by some miracle they announce production now begins, be skeptical as they have said similar statements time and time again with no results.
And if production does actually start. You still will already be cut out of the game and will be lucky to break even; if ever.
Chances are great ,you Never ever will.
A R/s Is a killer to all the Longs with the exception of those
who have huge share structures.
To all the new dreamers out there.
Don't be tricked into throwing good money into bad
A
R/S is Very -
Very BAD for the Longs.
And not only that many stock bag-holders will be charged
around $20.00 for each account correction.
Then the stock may very well drop to pre r/s levels
at which time the bag-holders will have long ago lost everything.
your 100% correct.
A R/S is Very -
Very BAD for the longs.
And not only that many stock bag-holders will be charged
around $20.00 for each account correction.
Then the stock may very well drop to pre r/s levels
at which time the bag-holders will have long ago lost everything.
To all the newbies and want to bees.
This is exactly what will happen. There Will be a reversal (r/s)eventually .
Then the stock will drop back down to nothing.
In the meantime; all the Longs Will Loose Everything , And most
of them will be pushed out completely .
Then their is another chance the company will just fold.
--or--
Announce a merger [of xxx shares for x shared] From which those
with anything left will be wiped out almost completely.
This has always been a loose - loose borderline scam. And their is very few if any win scenarios.
oh and before I forget; Various trading platforms will charge a $20.00 charge to your account- for doing this forest of a deal.
The longs will get screwed > if they r/s; in almost any way you look at it.
That is a fact.
In fact here is exactly what will happen.
They will continue selling and dumping shares at .0001 and (their .0002's when they can find a gullible sucker)
and every time it look like the ones are almost gone, They will dump more on the o/s by the millions till it reaches 10billion or so give or take a billion or two.
Then at some pt. they will announce a major reversal of which all the current bag-holders will get whipped out. and the game begins again.
Don't have to take my word for it, Just watch and you'll learn the hard way.
This cram will never ever reach .05 on it's own ever again.
OH!!! I FORGOT TO MENTION: In most cases> YOU WILL BE CHARGED --somewhere around #20 dollars-- or so FOR THE REVERSAL WITH THIS CRAP (The company makes money even when you lose.)
I've been gone awhile; Just stopped in to see what people are saying.
Heads up -----
Until this goes to .001 I would advise people to hold on to their
free flow cash.
The chances of this ever going to .10 cent
with out a major - major
reversal is very - very unlikely .
In fact it just won't happen
The market makers may show it bouncing up and down; but you will not get your shares sold . It's a marketing trick that only they can cash in on.
Don't get suckered in ; This is a dying horse.
Agreed.
Oh and by the way; Their is a bottom forming
it's called .0001
People don't be foolish - Hold onto your money.
FOOLS RUSH IN , WHERE WISE MEN FEAR TO GO-
-BUT THEN WISE MEN RARELY LOOSE THEIR MONEY TIME AND TIME
AGAIN FROM THE SAME OLD TRICKS.
warning:::
Insanity is doing the same thing to Average down and expecting
a different result.
This Junk will go all the way down to .0002 or .0001 then at some (Though it will bounce up and down somewhat.)
pt. a boat load of shares will be dump onto the O/S from the already authorized 6 Billion A/S and a massive reversal will take place.
Don't be tricked into loosing more of your money again.
You can almost guarantee this is a lose - lose situation at this pt.
There is no question it WILL R/S
There is nowhere left to go with an o/s of 20 billion,
and a pps of .0001
The only other thing left for it to do is drop off the boards
completely.
It is highly - highly unlikely it will ever move up to
the .001 range ever again.
We have all lost Everything with this one is the most
probable scenario . Some of us as in myself, far far greater than others.
But it's a dead horse now so;no need to cry about it now.
which article
OK I'll respond to that.
First: I never said it will drop to .0001
what I said was somewhere between .oo1 and .0001
Second: Saying it would already be at .0009 is not credible.
The facts are; no it would not necessary be in the .000 range already.
It IS dropping and Will continue to drop gradually- unfortunately-
although their will be false hopes and rises, then plunges here and there.
Chances are very very great >It will eventually fall then R/s .
Not saying it will , Just that the chances are greater that
it will [than that it won't].
Unless you can afford to lose your money;;; DON'T INVEST IN HFCO as things are.
Chances are great that:
Not only will they continue to (bounce up and down)
as they FALL, but somewhere around
.001 and .0001 they will dump a boat load of shares on the OS - Then do another killer reverse split.
This stock is highly questionable at this time.
Be very careful with your investment.
By the time the company does [if it does] succeed. We the common investors will have lost mostly, if not all of everything.
WARNING -DON'T DO IT- At this time.
Until it does the death plunge to a Reverse Merger; This will never ever reach a penny . That I can 100% guarantee.
After the R/m and we have all lost most of to all of our investment then it could hit .01 But never - never before that.
- [short of an accidental posting that is immediately corrected.]
Arsc has around 19+ BILLION OS
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying to give up and quit.
All I'm saying is; Hold on to your finances and wait for now.
The time may come to jump in and buy- buy- buy .
I personally don't see that opportunity right now.
At this time It does not look good for investing in it at this particular moment.
Hold tight and just be ready to fire all your financial bullets
when things start to show their true colors.
Of course only you know what's best for you.
GLTU
Don't get fooled again.
-----Think this time------
One or two of many things will most likely happen.
By or Before next Month
1st.
To meet the .01 QB rule : They may announce a major reversal. by next mt.
2nd.
To meet their rule; They may announce the production requirement
was not meet so the deal was canceled as in IVOI's arrangement.
3rd.
They could let themselves be down-listed and let the up and
down road to .0001 be continued.
4th.
They could just drop out pay all fees and Go private.
(((or some combination their of.)))
By just about any sinarial you can think of; The bottom line
is ...... If this does not turn around by the end of next week or so
anyone buying shares in this company now - will lose their investment.
Dream on---- Their is No And But , Is or Maybe to it.
Granted their is a 1 out of a million chance you could win.
But the chances are slim and few.
Don't get fooled again.
-----Think this time------
One or two of many things will most likely happen.
By or Before next Month
1st.
To meet the .01 QB rule : They may announce a major reversal. by next mt.
2nd.
To meet their rule; They may announce the production requirement
was not meet so the deal was canceled as in IVOI's arrangement.
3rd.
They could let themselves be down-listed and let the up and
down road to .0001 be continued.
4th.
They could just drop out pay all fees and Go private.
(((or some combination their of.)))
By just about any sinarial you can think of; The bottom line
is ...... If this does not turn around by the end of next week or so
anyone buying shares in this company now - will lose their investment.
Dream on---- Their is No And But , Is or Maybe to it.
Granted their is a 1 out of a million chance you could win.
But the chances are slim and few.
Good luck to all
Keep your eyes and mind open.
That rule only applies to OTC.QB Tiered stocks.
All they have to do is be downgraded to a PK , or Lesser rating Then
They will no longer have to comply with the rule.
at such point nothing changes and the game continues at .0001
--------BEWARE-------
This is another stock market game so that the playing level between the have Vs common shareholders is never balanced.
No - it just implies someone is spending a little in the hopes to encourage others to spend a lot ; so They can then rush in and sell to get some of their money back. It is a desperate ploy and sometimes works.
If you look hard enough their is usually a new sucker, or desperate
and gullible person somewhere that can be tricked into buying a worthless dead stock or two every day.
Chance's are this stock will bounce up and down all the way to .0001 then the company will dump a boatload of the 10 billion shared on and do another major reversal.
Odds are those buying will loose all of their investment and will not be able to sell enough to recover anything but a tiny fraction of whatever they paid for it. They may even loose it all.
WATCH AND LEARN
You can't even flip this crap to make anything worthwhile.
One may argue with these facts - But they will eventually learn.
Which unit did you order? and What address did you order from?
Several of my friends and I are contemplating putting in 10k whole house orders also.