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i feel he is involved with lehman with respect to merging assets wanted by wmi for their future expansion and even possibly completely merging the two holding cos together to become a force to be reckoned with when they breakout of bk!
i absolutely agree with you. if fdic can subvert the ots and takedown wamu and lehman....then the rules were absolutely broken and anything can now be "accomodated" in bk for our victims and walrath will see to it. and i am very sure susman will make anything happen that needs to. and make the outcome be the best for our benefit, his benefit, and wmi and lehman's ultimate benefit. im sure susman has them bent over, in accomodation, so the releases can be fulfilled. but what susman does and what the fbi is getting ready to do are two different things. hedgies are starting to feel the pain. with raj now in orange and three other hedgies in trouble for insider trading and fraud, im sure they are being very accomodating to susman. rosen talks big in court, but he knows nelson wants his head on a platter. and if i were bettng on the outcome of rosen, i would go "all in" with nelson on the takedown. this case is the biggest heist in history. and our govt was in on it and continue to hold mickey mouse congressional hearings to coverup the fact they were in on it...acting like they are "protecting" the taxpayer when in fact they helped hose them. they better settle soon or alot more democratic congressional members, especially ones that were in office under bush, are going to be implicated and terminated by said "hosed taxpayers." taxpayers know something fishy happened in 2008. they are not dumb. just by the multiple headlines in newspapers across the country about thoma and wamu case last friday, it goes to show you they dont want this out and will go to any length to cover it up. show me the money!!!!!!! parlay!!!! leh and wmi! jmo.
and 2 bil in assets have to be forked back over by barclays to lehman also. lehman was the sacrificial lamb to, and rival of goldman just like wamu was the sacrificial lamb to, and rival of jpmorgan. coincidence? i think not. alot of assets are hidden in both cases. goldman and jpig dont want this info out or they turn bk imo. why do you think jpig keeps saying they are cash rich? but they never say who's cash they are rich with! and lehmans case moved up six months to june? coincidence again? i think not! more money just keeps floating to the surface.....stolen money and assets that have to be valued because fdic, gs,jpig all got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. and here comes our main man susman....he is merger man in chief. lehman is a perfect fit for wamu whether whole or pick and choose only the assets wmi needs. but why let an opprtunity pass that no one else can touch while in bk. wmi can merge holding companies in bk and i feel that is what is taking so long. susman puting a big red bow on the surprise new merged co imo.
didnt 4 bil just come back to lehman from GS? and didnt they just win a settlement from fdic over something?
susmans merger surprise! "wmlh" (my ticker) mammoth company getting ready to merge holding cos within bk and emerge to kick some wall street butt! and just to let you know, my providian account that is "chase in sheeps clothing", has been "down" all weekend. possibly the switch being thrown back to wmi. great having a zero interest card for almost 3 years. hope they honor the original contract of 18 months when the card is returned to the rightful owner wmi. PARLAYYYYYYYYY VIVA!!!! 14th cant come soon enough imo. 6+1+4=11. 11/11 catastrophe for feds. "eye for an eye" with this "david and goliath" scenerio. (nate thoma playing the part of david.)my feeling is jpm is so screwed from all the lawsuits, they are forced into bk to protect govt pensions held within. they cant substantiate any figures thrown to their shareholders or anyone else for that matter. the house of cards is toppling. i do believe we see jpig as the "sacrificial pig" of the fed reserve very soon.
this post is for catz, i got your response. couldnt susman tie rosen, jpm, and the hedgies all together based on trading transactions alone. you saw yourself the day rosen said "i know alot of people are watching this case" and the stock dropped like a rock. it took him a little over 2 hours to set that manipulation up (delay of court) to take down the stock price.is that not insider trading? cause you know when everyone sold,who was there to pickup the shares? the hedgies and jpm. that could be susmans collusion angle to pressure rosen. he definitely has all the trading records and its very plain what took place that day.
still think susmans going to have to pull the "trial card" to get rosen and his minions to shut up and settle. we'll see soon. lehman is certainly the perfect fit for wmi.....may the joining of holding company forces be with us! and this may very well send jpm into a "ball of fire bk" after settlement. because jpm knows they cant compete...they'll just hide in bk till all the lawsuits are either paid off using taxpayer monies thru fdic, govt backdoor funneling, or bust'em up for a fed reserve "sacrifical offering." with "WMLH" (my symbol for the powerhouse holding companies merged 2gether) who could compete? jmo.
viva, im beginning to feel like the fed reserve!!! print that money!!! cha ching! gotta say it......GOT PARLAY VIVA? i do!
i think those are just throwout numbers. when you get to 45-77 a share that is the ballpark here. dr. archaya is not a dumb dumb. he has very solid numbers. numbers jpm, the fed, and the govt dont want anyone to see.
may i say that you are speaking my language today! cant wait for the fireworks!!!
susman didnt have to give up depos...but he did to put leverage on the hedgies to settle. hedgies think their getting a get out of jail free card. but i feel the hedgies are going to be "taken care of" by the FBI very soon. they wont need depos till the trials for insider trading and collusion. why do you think this has taken so long? i feel when susman came on the scene he had the goods on the hedgies and jpm and informed the fbi of his information. then i feel the fbi started their parallel investigation while our lawsuit was evolving. cant wait for the takedown of the hedgies very soon. remember....jpm and fdic, and fed, and democratic congress need a scapegoat. and the hedgies are it. they used them in the setup, i feel, then said they were going to benefit, and built them up only to tear them down. our govt is all about building things up to tear them down. if you research jpm history that is how they made their fortune...by setting up there competition for failure and shorting to death to make them fail. if you dont know history you dont know your future. read about them. a bunch of crooks for sure! but i feel karma is finally going to destroy them. arrogance and ego eventually lead to demise.
you have the date correct. that was what was shown to me. but there is also free will on the part of the players involved too. alot of working parts in this lawsuit working against each other right now. but like in a previous post i stated...susman is very much in control and i am certainly buying every share i can wamu and lehman. i totally have faith in susman and willingham to bring this gross injustice to a close. then the "competition" begins! yes, 6-14-11 is the date.
i'll discount it to 77.00 ......how's that? smile were going to be rich!
i believe that is why the head of IMF was setup. our govt needed their funds returned, that they sent to the imf as tarp, and the head guy wasnt going to give it up. enter the "maid." he even said he was setup. there is upwards of 30 billion dollars unaccounted for from tarp. i feel our govt setup the takedown of wamu and lehman because the union pensions of teachers,gm,and chrysler, and the senators and congressmen and also govt workers(thru jpm) were in peril.jpm was the insolvent one. if they went into bk the pensions would have went to nil. washington mutual was "sacrificed" to keep jpm and the fed afloat.now i feel the tide has turned and now china is going to involve themselves with wmi to break into the american market. with their investment thru tpg, wamu with the merger of lehman holding co (my opinion) are a force to be reckoned with. and i feel jpm will then become the "sacrifical pig" in the "friendly competition" to come. jpm is all about fees. wamu was all about no fees and getting under jpm collar. wamu was jpm's " big problem" and they thought they were disposing of them. now with wmi coming out, the shoe is now on the other foot. and jpm i feel will be broken up because they can no longer compete and the govt will be forced to "privatize" the pensions held within the bank. no more handouts for them.
your welcome viva, and im a ditto on your rosen comment too. jumpsuits on standby i say!
VIVA VIVA LAS VEGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! welcome home!
lawrence, look on the right hand of your picture! if you darken it it says 77. the sevens are linked together. and on the bottom of the 2nd seven it a teapot pouring down into the word common. like its getting ready to be served up. and above the number 77 is the word merge in big letters.
awesome!
we will get to 3.....my opinion wamug common will see 45/share and lehman will see 35/share. dollars!!! dr. archaya sent in a court doc he said wamuq should see no less than 86/share. these corps. were flat out stolen. my guess is 77/share total after leh-wmi merge! i have felt a merger could happen since day one. i own both stocks! have fun buying!!!
night!
only thing i see is not having enough stock bought up before the music stops!
no they dont!
i know it has nothing to do with merger. but the status is the same for both right? i have other info i was talking about the merger with fish about.
i bought that before it went bk. susmans in this one too. it means he is the mop up man. he is going to settle all these illegal takedowns and imf is going to have to send our tarp money back to settle it. anyone else think "setup" when the head of imf was jailed? i did...immediately!
2 powerhouses with cash and writedowns for years....$$$$$$$$$. wall street is scared.with tpg (china backing) leh-wmi merger no fed reserve bank will be able to compete. lehman has a bank outside bk and wmi needs a bank.perfect fit! a a true force to be reckoned with. also when our payout is known the math will be done and everyone will then see who was truly insolvent.....jpm,gs,etc. jmo.
thanks for that! i know God is in control...but isnt it great when he gives us a "heads up!" i know our pictures are right. and yours shows tepper the poster child. im going to email you something tomorrow that will blow your mind. but my picture also says susman surprise merger! all stocks have a PL after them. lehmans a great buy verses wmi. but how can they determine conversion on p's when the shareholders were destroyed by illegal takedown? they have to make them whole right?
what IS....is this whole mess was a perpetrated crisis and crime! shareholders were raped. they know they were raped and the rapists are going to jail. but before they do mr susman will put the screws to them and squeeze them till their eyes bleed! susman clerked under hugo black. constitution was his middle name. so to think we have to deal with what is, is a misnomer. i think the shoe is on the other foot now and susman is running this show. i think it should now be called "pay now...or pay later and longer behind bars!"
load up! merger coming imo! "susmans suprise merger!" jpm should be very concerned about now.
check my previous posts. i dont want to waste my current posts.thanks!
but the pre-takedown shareholders of preferreds have a contract, so when they went into bk, by no fault of their own, that contract was still in effect. this takedown was illegal and not due to wamu but the hedge funds manipulation and fdic wanting the OTS gone. so they had to eliminate lehman and wamu to get rid of the agency so fdic could be the BIG DOG. how can they reformulate anything knowing what the shareholders know. the shareholders bought knowing their contract conversions. how can they get around this without shareholders coming after them for fraud and collusion? they would have to uphold the conversion of pre's imo.
??????? what is that!
what is your educated guess?
what is the coversion rate from pref share to commons? will they be made to conform to orig agreement prior to takedown? or can they manipulate this also?
thy are the worst for playing games. when this thing started trading scottrade would show an ask that wasnt the true ask.it would be higher than what was actually posted,so your trade never filled. call and raise a stink with the manager of your branch!
it wont b long!
that be me!
who's diamondfire?
thanks for that! and yes absolutely this stock is being kept very secretive from everyone as to actual monies involved. wmi takedown was called a mistake by neal k. at treasury. but would it have been called a mistake if the shareholders hadnt fought so hard to bring light to the situation? no it would have evaporated and the hedgies would have took off smoking their celebratory cigars! the numbers rosen are throwing out are preposterous. wmi has corporations that were raped by jpm. jpm was given absolute carte blanche by our govt to seek and destroy. they had no right to take holding company anything! and for that they will pay and i dare say made to return! possession is not nine tenths of the law in this case. jpm will be made to return what they stole or pay very handsomely for it. they just arent going to let everyone know dollar for dollar what was stolen because they dont want to destroy what they've worked so hard to perpetuate over these 3 years(a house of BORROWED cards). this would implode the fed! but i feel with backing from china this merged company could end up doing the deed anyway. big money coming! susman works on percentages...the more we make the more he makes! im great with that! finally an attorney that is literally worth his weight in gold! rosen....Got MILK? jmo.
the reason they havent scooped it is because they were all put on notice that hedgies are being "wiretapped" and "watched" after that raj guy from Galleon went to jail for insider trading. it was said that he tried to destroy his hard drives and shread paperwork. hedgies are extremely scared now to know the next "shoes" are getting ready to drop. the govt needs a scapegoat so THEY arent implicated and the hedgies ARE that scapegoat. jmo
im glad you see what i am talking about. i have no reason to lie, pump, or anything else. i have been here the entire time and i want the best for everyone. this is really happening. lehman's case has been on the same parallel as wamu's since day one. their talks are at the same juncture as ours and their timeline was moved to june for a reason. perps need to funnel money through some backdoor so the money trail isnt easy to trace. what better than a merger into a new entity, new name, all is good. this is the biggest planned takedown in american history...now how to hide it, bury it, then burn it so it cant be pinned to the democratic congress under bush who used this preplanned economic crisis to get their guy elected! can you imagine, if the american people found out they were duped into this socialist agenda because of what was perpetrated to cause fear and uncertainty in the economy and certain instability in the future?