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Sweet, Very Sweet!
Setting up for a serious breakout!
Yes it is!
Beautiful chart!
This thing is behaving like a growth stock on a major exchange.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=gzfx,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&a....
Looking good!
If in fact this forms an assending triangle we should see a breakout. This stock is performing nicely today just by holding it's own after yesterday's profit taking.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=gzfx,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&a....
52-wk High of 0.167!
I watched it happen but held too long!
Just curious, Anyone else think we're setting up an assending triangle?
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=gzfx,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&a...
The hell with predictions & optimism!
I just focus on facts & probabilities!
With little effort this network should be able to report a net worth of 1 billion dollars near term & 3 billion dollars with in a year’s time!
Even if all 50 billion shares end up in the float a value of one billion dollars puts you at TWO CENTs a share! From present levels of .0005 the profits become not only staggering but realistic, not optimistic!
When you consider the following information & you could easily make a case for a million plus subscribers in a year or two which makes a net worth of 5 billion dollars not so much a possibility as a probability.
The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.
Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.
So I keep asking myself,,,
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position?
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
***Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwn***
I believe that my time horizon for holding this stock is longer than most people here. I continue to review the reasons I bought in & one very important fact continues to nutralize my concerns about OS,,,
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The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.
Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.
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I'm not suggeting that 15 million or by some counts as much as 25 million (all in the US alone) will subscibe to QTV. But over time a couple million will subscribe & 3 or 4 million is not out of the question.
The audit will put us in a whole different catagory. Reporting Company. That in its self will increase the VALUE of this company. I look forward to this being completed and consider it much more important than a shareholders meeting.
With that audit behind us along with the very possiblility that Frank will report profits within the year, the appoaching Chicago games, more carriers, syndication of some of their shows & things we've not even considered yet we will see rewards from this that few imagined.
Remember this about an audit. You can't report profits with the conviction Wall Street expects if you're not filing with the SEC.
Yes! We can run without an audit. but my targets are considerably higher than pennies.
There is a reason MSFT with 11 billion shares outstanding trades for $24 a share. They make money & report a profit. No! I'm not saying we will ever trade for $20 a share. But I maintain that a dollar a share is realistic.
While you all are laughing just remember that Genuine Broadcasting International TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.
And remember this. The hardest thing this company had to do has been accomplished.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
**I'll say it again!**
Keeping my eyes on the horizon!
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position.
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The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.
Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.
With that as a target who needs a Bullseye!!!!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
**One more time!**
Frank will sell QBID!
He's even told us when he plans to do this!
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
In a letter to shareholders posted on the Q website Frank tells us,,,
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"We are the official broadcaster of the Gay Games, as well as a major sponsor. As I look at the budget for the next 18 months, I believe that, because of that decision, Q Television is going to be profitable faster than most cable stations. The norm for most cable stations is they are not profitable within their first 3-5 years. However, when they start the turnaround, the profits are unbelievable."
***AND THEN IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT SELLING A STATION***
"When an independent station is sold, the rewards are enormous. Here are several examples of stations that were sold for billions of dollars: American Movie Channel, Bravo and other Black entertainment channels."
ALL THAT TALK ABOUT SELLING THEN TRIGGERS HIS TRAIN OF THOUGHT WHICH BRINGS HIM BACK TO WHAT I VEIW AS POSSIBLE TIMING,,,
"This brings me back to the main point. The Gay Games will enable Q Television to be in 150 of the top markets in the United States, and it will be broadcast in 40 countries. It has enabled Q Television to make long term commitments to the countries that are carrying the Gay Games, and help us to negotiate the cable operator contracts. As I reflect further, I believe that Q Television will be profitable by the end of the 2nd quarter of 2006."
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
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I for one don't see profitablity by 2006. But who cares? I was on SIRI when they converted equity to debt & took their os up to 1.3 billion shares & they STILL HAVEN'T REPORTED A PROFIT. The only mistake I made was not holding a core position. I got in at .40 & sold well over a buck for a fat profit & knew I should have held a core. Believe me! I will not repeat that mistake here!
My guess is Frank will sell sometime before or right after the cames. Exposure will be big & the big boys will see the potential. Viacom will not be the only one interested & we could even see bidding which will be at a premium on future projected earnings.
But again I don't see profits until maybe late 2007 or even 2008 unless I get surprised by huge subscription numbers. With that in mind I still see 3 billion range for buy out. The bidders will argue that we're worth about 2.5 at best near term. Even though Frank will know that their mere presence at the negotiating table means they know it's worth alot more in the forseeable future, Frank will take their offer.
*Some good news & some bad news!*
Do not buy or sell on anything I write!
Having said that,,,,
Consider this!
The bad news first!
Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.
Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.
Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!
What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute.
Now for the good news!
Lets say the audit shows 10 billion shares outstanding (which I still believe is a high estimate) & everything else I said still holds up. First thing I can tell you, if that's the case, frank will not be letting this go for three billion. But say he does. Now we're looking at a FLAT VALUE OF THIRTYTRHEE CENTS A SHARE!
I'm not done!
The reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID. Moving to another exchange will be a fringe benefit that will make the product shine a little more.
Remember the PR about reducing its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent?
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050802/25508.html?.v=1
"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market," said Olsen. "Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock. Q Television will continue to be as aggressive as possible, and do everything necessary to ensure our shareholders are treated fairly."
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This isn't about manipulation! Frank doesn't give a $h!t about MMs. Well maybe a little bit but this was about polishing the product.
Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!
Personally I like Frank having complete control. Let's just pretend that that Frank, you know, the same Frank that has already sold a profitable media enterprise to Sumner Redstone. Lets just pretend he really wants this thing to be sold & actually kept the share count at or around 4 billion outstanding or less & lets pretend we're even close to actually reporting a profit by the end of the second quarter of 2006.
He will sell! He will sell while he has the attention of major players! And it will not be for three billion dollars! Now you're looking at a bare minimum of 5 billion dollars Maybe as much as 7 billion. If QBID actually showing a profit & we're getting international attention in 40 countries you could even make an argument for,,,,use your imagination!!!!
The hell with it! I'll stay with 5 billion dollars. Factor in Frank's 53% controlling interest which has now been reduced to a handfull of super voting shares & we're starting to see the big picture.
FIVE BILLION DOLLARS & FOUR BILLION SHARES!
This will not come as a huge surprise to me because Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.
I've said it many times. I will not begin to liquidate my core position until I see $1.25 a share!
From my very humble vantage point,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
Do not buy or sell on anything I write!
Having said that,,,,
Consider this!
The bad news first!
Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.
Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.
Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!
What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute.
Now for the good news!
Lets say the audit shows 10 billion shares outstanding (which I still believe is a high estimate) & everything else I said still holds up. First thing I can tell you, if that's the case, frank will not be letting this go for three billion. But say he does. Now we're looking at a FLAT VALUE OF THIRTYTRHEE CENTS A SHARE!
I'm not done!
The reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID. Moving to another exchange will be a fringe benefit that will make the product shine a little more.
Remember the PR about reducing its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent?
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050802/25508.html?.v=1
"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market," said Olsen. "Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock. Q Television will continue to be as aggressive as possible, and do everything necessary to ensure our shareholders are treated fairly."
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This isn't about manipulation! Frank doesn't give a $h!t about MMs. Well maybe a little bit but this was about polishing the product.
Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!
Personally I like Frank having complete control. Let's just pretend that that Frank, you know, the same Frank that has already sold a profitable media enterprise to Sumner Redstone. Lets just pretend he really wants this thing to be sold & actually kept the share count at or around 4 billion outstanding or less & lets pretend we're even close to actually reporting a profit by the end of the second quarter of 2006.
He will sell! He will sell while he has the attention of major players! And it will not be for three billion dollars! Now you're looking at a bare minimum of 5 billion dollars Maybe as much as 7 billion. If QBID actually showing a profit & we're getting international attention in 40 countries you could even make an argument for,,,,use your imagination!!!!
The hell with it! I'll stay with 5 billion dollars. Factor in Frank's 53% controlling interest which has now been reduced to a handfull of super voting shares & we're starting to see the big picture.
FIVE BILLION DOLLARS & FOUR BILLION SHARES!
This will not come as a huge surprise to me because Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.
I've said it many times. I will not begin to liquidate my core position until I see $1.25 a share!
From my very humble vantage point,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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whizknock
**Frank will sell QBID!**
He's even told us when he plans to do this!
http://www.qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp
Thanks kateric10!
I just keep reminding myself why I bought this thing.
KillBid!
And I would have to say you're the real deal! Somebody brought some of your research to Allstocks.
Thanks Fly-Guy!
You're good people!
Keeping my eyes on the horizon!
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position.
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The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.
Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.
With that as a target who needs a Bullseye!!!!
**Just my humble oppinion!**
Kind of nice to see a little green. 18% on above average volume. Yep not bad at all.
I'm mildly surprised it happened this soon after the billion share accumulation day last week. I would have liked to see more accumulation days & still think we might see just that.
But who knows this might be the start of a decent run.
I don't care,,,,,,,,, This is nothing!
I just realized something that should have been obvious to me for almost a year. Actually, I can't pull up the post I wrote, but it did cross my mind & I did mention a possibility on Allstocks. Now I'm almost 100% sure.
I have a pretty good idea as to when Frank will sell and it's a little sooner than I thought. By the time we celebrate New Years 2007 Frank will be negotiating a deal if he hasn't already sold! And I think it's more than likely he will have already sold!
Frank has already sent signals. He's already told anyone listening that QBID is for sale but not at .0019! Oh no! Frank wants allot more than a penny & .019 isn't even in the ball park. He's also told us when he'll entertain bids for the company & that drastically cuts my time horizon for holding this stock from 3.5 years to no more than 2 years.
I used to think that Sumner Redstone would buy this thing for .38 a share. It could still happen. But Frank has made too much progress & Viacom will have some competition.
Yep! I can't tell you exactly how much or to whom he will sell, but Frank will not own QBID two years from now. And that I can almost guarantee! It is the primary reason he's doing the audit!
We could move to another exchange & that certainly won't hurt the value of the product he's polishing up. But believe this! The main reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID.
Bare in mind that what I've just written is a worst case senario. If Frank had the stamina to run this company for 5 more years I would write here & now that a dollar a share is a lock.
Genuine Broadcasting "Global" TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.
Don't buy or sell on anything I write.
But I keep checking off my list & keep my eyes on the horizon cause .0019 is no where near my target nor Franks.
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
**Keeping my eyes on the horizon!**
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position.
.....................................................................................
The purchasing power of the U.S. gay and lesbian population will hit an estimated $610 billion in 2005, according to a 2004 study by Witeck-Combs Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based marketing firm specializing in the gay marketplace.
Michelle Scales, director of Wells Fargo's division of "diverse growth segments," ticked off a list of attributes that makes the gay and lesbian market a natural fit for the bank: the U.S. gay population is estimated to include 15 million people with a combined $610 billion in purchasing power. Gays and lesbians are twice as likely to own a small business as non-gays, and 75 percent have incomes above the national average. Seven of every 10 gay couples own a home.
With that as a target who needs a Bullseye!!!!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
Penny-Trader is on the money!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
**Someone says**
"Could Q buy another shell that is an OTCBB, and dump the old one? That sounds like it could be a very "innovative" way to move to the OTCBB's."
And Penny says!
Penny-Trader
Member
Member Rated:
posted May 29, 2005 17:45
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i think they are going to clean up the one they have, that is why they spent the money to get the auditors in and help clean things up. Its like a credit rating, if you do certain things and if enough time and money is available you can clean anything.
I'm not worried about it too much, That was 7 months ago that Rene has stated those words, I'm sure they have been working out the bugs for some time on this one. lets face it. until they are up and running with the backing then needed and i believe they now have, they needed to be on the pinks, I'm sure that the whole time they have been dumping and buying shares on this thing to get by, that is why they are on the pinks, they have no rules they have to follow and do what they have to survive.
But now they are at a point where it is more advantageous for them to get off the pinks. they will not be looked at seriously by the big carriers, until they can prove they are a viable company that is not going to close doors on them and run after 2 months of operation.
so until they get off the pinks they are not going to be able to prove this to the carriers.
at the very least they have to start reporting so that thier business plan can bee seen and they can be judged by the carriers.
it costs a carrier a lot of money to set up a channel for carriage, and they want to make sure they can recoup their costs of doing so. a couple months and then the company goes under serves them nothing but headaches, and lost revenue.
I truly believe that we will be off the pinks very very soon.
the fact that the buyback is going on is big evidence to me that they are in a hurry to get it done.
the wording in the pr about the buy back was that they are going to "begin immediately an aggressive buyback of our shares" is evident in the aftermarket sales we have been seeing over the last month, and Fridays display showed us a very aggressive buyback.
they are close to 1.5 billion bought back already is my feeling and they are almost done this round. I stated at the beginning of this that with the money they have and the price they are buying back at, that i felt the buyback would take till may 31 and that they would buyback roughly 1.44 billion. It appears that we have hit that number and have gone beyond. Which would indicate that they have some more money that they have thrown at this effort.
at the end of the day after all is said and done, this company is setting itself up for a major success in my honest opinion.
We have seen more forward movement in this company since January 1 st this year then we have in the 6 years prior to that. this it the final push to success, they are just now breaking the crest of the hill, the struggle is almost over and the momentum is going to pick up just on the other side of that crest. I believe we are beyond the point where Frank can screw this up now.
As my buddy Whiz always said, "All we ever had to do was launch" now it is a matter of time, and i believe that most of the time has gone by now.
Frank is not about to fail on this. He is going to succeed or die trying. I myself am confident enough in him to give him the room to do his job. After all this is not his first start-up network but it is mine. I feel he knows what he is doing and he is impressing a lot of brass in the decision making seats of the big carriers. He has the content, he has the right people, he has the right timing, and most of all he has an understanding of what the GLBT community wants as he and his team are part of that community.
OK this is getting way to long winded now i'm going to end this here lol
Rod
Penny!
Just saw your post on Allstocks!
Excellent stuff!
And another one by Stax!
Great post!
The people who bought them had the clout to make them profitable!
Another excellent post!
Thanks 'Islandboyz'
Thanks Ct!
Best message I've read today!
**Jimicrakdcorn!**
Thanks!
**Sirsly00!!!**
It wouldn't be based on AS. It would be based on OS which at the very worse the way I see it is somwhere around 13 billion shares. That's taking into consideration that no additional buy-back has occured & Frank didn't really retire a billion shares!
Work 13 billion into your equation.
Thanks DardaDog!
Good to see you back
**Robg!**
That wasn't pumping!
I own the stock & refuse to be swayed by lack of conviction & dicipline, daytrader's fear, bashers or anything else for that matter.
I simply continue to review my check list on this stock every week!
(1) Do they have a product or service?
(2) Is it a quality product or service?
(3) Is it a marketable product or service?
(4) Are there precedents, companies that provide the same kind of product or service?
(5) Do most if not all these companies trade for over a dollar a share?
(6) What differentiates my prospect from these other companies?
(7) Do they have a target demographic?
(8) Does that demographic have the means to support the product?
(9) Where does the commercial community stand, do Fortune 500 Companies want to reach the prospect's target demographic?
(10) Can the prospect deliver an effective avenue for the major corporations to reach this market?
(11) Do they have sponsors?
(12) What's the possible impact of their primary competition & will my prospect have the lead in the market?
(13) Does this prospect have management with a proven track record of not only running a company but actually bringing a company to market, making it successful & profiting from this endeavor.
And most importantly one personal question,,,
(14) Do I have the discipline, willingness & conviction to maintain a large core position in this company when I identify it.
So long as QBID lives up to this criteria I'll buy on dips while you & others get shook!
If you still don't like this,,, Tough $h!t!
tiny little fact!
"ALL WE EVER HAD TO DO IS LAUNCH!"
**Not Mine!**
This is why you can't get my shares at gun-point!
In order for a major corporation to justify buying a pinksheet company to their share holders they would have to demonstrate that they were not just able to do Due Diligence but in fact did the DD & found the target to be "Financially Sound".
My Money is firmly bet that the float is smaller & that SOMEONE whether it be Viacom or whomever is buying the pure living $h!t out of this puppy!
Yes! Someone is buying big on the days that you see big volume & decline in share price!
I'm a firm believer that Frank is reducing the float via buy-back! Again, it begs the question, WHO's backing his play? I still believe Viacom would be the one to benefit most! And the fact that the "rumor" post was pulled within hours of it being online give this rumor real juicy credibility.
In so much as who had it pulled,,,
It could have been Frank knowing a rumor might queer the deal so to speak. LOL!
All joking aside I think it was Frank! Almost sure of it! More sure of that than I am that it's Viacom buying in! On that issue I just know somebody's putting up alot of cash. As far as Viacom is concerned I will say that I'm the first person to float the idea that Viacom would buy us out but that does not mean I'm right!
Now consider this, I hazard to guess that the mere absence of a PR to clarify this issue early Monday will fuel the rumor more!
One thing we all know (I think) or at least "I" know for a fact,,,
There will come a day that Frank sells QBID!
That is what he does!!! He developes the idea, brings it to market polishes it up & SELLS IT!!!!
There does exist a fat block of shares they can not access! MINE!
Because there is one tiny little FACT that I will never overlook!
I agree Matt, Garagenoise makes sense!!!
Very good points indeed!
I have some more pure speculation,,,
Don't rule out Viacom! I've been convinced for some time that Sumner Redstone is rooting for QBID to be a success to test the market so to speak. He will not launch logo unless the QBID demonstrates that there is a market. I'm willing to bet that if logo does make it on the air they will have QBID programing & it may not be the result of a buyout. Not yet! Just a thought but I'm also willing to bet that Viacom has alot of equipment that could be used to promote a new network.
Paul Allen? Sumner Redstone? Some one is putting up huge money & if QBID emptied the coffers & issued all 50 billion shares on the market that still wouldn't pay the bill for what they're doing lately. So we can throw the notion that Frank's doing this with shares.
It looks like things will be getting very interesting near term! I'm set.
Yes! Frank will sell QBID!
For huge profits!
By: whizknock
05 Dec 2004, 01:43 PM EST
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**Slapshotmo!**
Viacom knows th G/L community will not pay good money for the type of programing they offer. This demographic is working with $600 Billion Dollars of Discretionary income for a reason. Their numbers tend to be much better educated than than any other segment of society or minority. Viacom's Sumner Redstone wants to get in on the gold rush & he knows that MTV's form of programing is unlikely to attract & hold this customer. MTV has made a mint by programing in such a way as not to challenge their audience on a cognitive level. Viacom may never launch LOGO,,,unless they buy QBID!
Frank has a history of developing & selling media companies. That's what he's doing now!!!! He may not say it but he will sell. When he has said there will be no reverse split as long as I'm a part of this company he's not saying there will never be a reverse split. He's saying it will not occur while he's the owner! He doesn't care about O/S. He simply cares about owning controlling interest. $3.80 a share for 1.5 billion shares is the same as .38 a share for 15 billion shares.
Frank has said this will be worth about $5 Billion in 5 years. I guarantee you he will not own this 5 years from now. Frank will sell the whole thing for approximately $6 billion in less than two years. Viacom's first bid will be about .24! They'll settle at .38
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
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[[[[ *FACTS!* ]]]]
It just doesn't make a damn bit of difference what any of us write,,,including me!
Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a buck a share.
That's just a fact.
QBID is established & in the birth stages of becoming a Genuine Broadcasting "Global" TV Network.
That's just another fact.
I don't know exactly when but I do know QBID will trade for more than a dollar a share.
That's a very important fact.
I guess what I just love is that we've already accomplished the single most important fact,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
**Dragon!**
All over it!
Public Service Announcement!
It just doesn't make a damn bit of difference what any us writes. That includes me!!! No matter what anybody writes there will come that day that we go over a penny to stay, followed by another period of company milestones which will take us over a dime. And my core position will not be sold for less than $1.25 a share!
Remember!!!
Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share. As Frank reduces the float & more people recognise what they're holding, it's only a matter of time when this thing goes through a buck.
It just flat out makes no diference what any of us write. For me all remaining risk was eliminated,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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DON'T SAY IT!
DON'T SAY YOU WERE NOT INFORMED!
Remember this from September 28th?
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040928/64572.html
I like this paragraph!
"We are also starting to define all of our strategic marketing goals for our Club XTReme which include: brand identification and development, establishing our casino license and negotiating contractual issues with our vendor of choice for our offshore gaming subsidiary, web site development, identification of strategic partners (technology and marketing) and comprehensive marketing launch activities to drive consumer awareness of our online casino and sports book operation. We anticipate helping our subsidiary launch our online casino within the next 30-60 days after we complete the negotiations with vendors who will supply our gaming technology."
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You'll also please take note that "EVERYTHING" Pino has said he would do, he's done.
Rumor!!!
A couple months ago there was a rumor floated we were told that Mario would make a couple of moves & that this silver mining company would be one of them. For the life of me I couldn't see any connection unless Mario was in fact getting paid for procuring funds for them or taking them public & that he had connections in the Pacific Rim. In the end, after a fashion he's accomplised both those goals.
The first part of that rumor was not only true, it was right on target!
The other move he was rumored to make involved UBAT. They have yet to do that & maybe I'm dead wrong but I'm expecting some kind of deal between MLON & UBAT! SOON!!
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/041215/69600.html
Tell me that's not a perfect fit!
If Mario releases even weak financials we will fly. If this deal of trading stock for value from the mining thing allows our books to look even remotely decent you just might see that .10 to .20!
Who knows? We could get some serious positive action here if many people participate in this!
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By: highfly880
14 Dec 2004, 09:31 PM EST
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THINK HERE- READ THIS: If the float is 2 bil, it must be that we together own the majority of them. If we really ALL decide not to sell at these levels, and all set the limit sell order at 5-10 cents GTC AON, then the new investors, outsiders, chasers, bashers, MMs, would really have to bid up to buy the shares once the PRs start hitting. Think about it. Look at the day today. No one was selling. If we weren't this organized we would be panicking and selling into eights. But we didn't. The volume was 150 mil, steady, and firm without huge upsides, just as it is supposed to be on the day without PR, but still UP 10%, and not down!!! Imagine with the PR. Remember, it seems that "we have the float"- WE CONTROL THE FLOAT, the majority. Don't sell so cheap. Set your selling price high, at the target price. We'll see the difference. We already saw it today. If we had our action running last week with those great PRs we would be in 20s, 30s, or who knows??? But some were lured into panick selling. JOIN THE ACTION!!! YOU CONTROL THE FLOAT!!! CONTROL THE PRICE TOO!!!
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There's a movement going on!
Many people are setting GTC orders for at least .05 a share & some like myself have an extra GTC in at .10!
The movement has spread from Raging Bull to Allstocks & gathering steam. Can't hurt to have many of you join in!
By: whizknock
15 Dec 2004, 12:33 AM EST
Msg. 13195 of 13199
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**Highfly!**
Count me in! I don't even care if alot of others don't do it. I'm setting up a block with a .10 GTC order on top of my months old, continously updated .05 GTC. & I'm holding a block for a NEOM type run I was on a year & a half ago!
All I can tell you is I've made amint when everyone decides to be on the same page.
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
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By: whizknock
15 Dec 2004, 01:08 AM EST
Msg. 13197 of 13199
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**Highfly & All!**
The movement is spreading! People on Allstocks are joining in,,,,,,,,
whizknock
Member posted December 15, 2004 01:01
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NOW YOU GUYS ARE TALKING!
This has been going on over on R/B board & it cant hurt.
Just go back to page 17 of this thread!
September 24th I wrote this & I'm not kidding!
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I hope that volume is what I think it is. We may be in for some surprises with this thing & I've decided personally to limit what I write about my oppinions on this thing in the future. I won't try to paint any unrealistic glorious picture but I won't do the oppisite either. It might be best for me to just watch.
I have a "Good Till Cancel" sell order in for half my position at .05 & holding the other half just in case this thing really gets crazy.
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(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
You're right!
And a good day for tomorrow!
Good Job Art.
That interveiw helped me make a decision to buy into this a couple of months ago. There's alot more going on now & all of it appears positive.