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well you boys and girls have a good night, only the complainers are left, the ones that always blame other for the trouble they got into.
man you play high risk and when you lose you complain.
thats what I was saying, people would have been crying about that, either way they need money, they need to market, they need to spend money to make money. no matter how they get the financing someone wont like it
zan you have no idea how much I have invested, also why would you have a huge investment in the otc if you couldnt afford to, all your experience tells you its high risk, you sound like another person blaming others for you losing money, well you are the big boy who put his money down on theis gamble, right
how about stepping up and taking responsibility for the moves you made.
peoples hard earned money, yeah the money they can afford to lose, and if they cant they should have never put it on the table, and thats the bottom line
why do you post at all, when you dont own or like the company, like about 30 other posters in here today, if there is nothing you want here why waste the time? seems odd if you think about it. if I didnt want anything to do with something I wouldnt waste my time crying about it, really makes you wonder
he gets paid 200k a year, the pps could be worth millions, what one would you want more
cash your giving a bad example, no company does a buy back right after selling to raise money, they dont have the money to do a buy back, you know what Im saying but choose to play dumb
and if he went and get a loan from cornell instead of selling shares to raise money that would have tanked the stock as well
when a ceo gets hired they get paid a salary and shares, you think they have money invested? no but they care about the pps, they want all the shares they hold to go up, chances are that will make them alot more than any salary they get
wow zanjabeel you sound like you know him personally, how often do you go out to eat with him, you really sound like you have an inside track
why on earth would he do a buy back now? in the future maybe, but you dont sell shares to turn around and buy them back, lets not be silly
almost every stock on the otc is a joke, Im hear to gamble. and thats just what gzfx is, a gamble. I can afford to lose everything I have in it, but if it hits like it could I will collect a nice payday.
people invest in pennies in hopes to hit one big, not because they are safe
he is trying to build the business, or otherwise they wouldnt be doing the heavy marketing, and opening more distribution centers, if he wasnt trying they wouldnt do anything. wake up
almost every otc, pink is a joke. if you dont realize that you shouldnt invest
please if it means 8 million dollar at only .02 cent I think he is. give me a break. why is he opening distribution center, making deals with companies and marketing so heavy lately? for fun? or to drive the business and in turn the stock.
man I just dont know why some of you hang on when you are so negative about the company. man sell and make your life easier
how can JF not care about the share price. that is rediculous. Im not sure how many shares he holds but lets say its 500,000,000 now would he care if the pps was .02 or .0027? I would think so, there is a big difference between 10 million dollars and and 1.3 million. he obviously cares about the share price.
it is on the web, just not where they stopped. imo
how do you know nothing for seatlle, because its not on the web site, doesnt mean it didnt happen, and who cares if its on the web sites, the only people that would check there are the ones who already know about gzfx, I mean out of all the people that went to the first 20 stops how many do you think checked the website, maybe a few investors. maybe they made a stop in seattle but you just dont know where it was, until you can provide confirmation they didnt, dont claim tey didnt.
people that are losing money can cry all they want, Im losing money as well, but Im a big boy, no one twisted my arm to invest, take it like a man, you made the decision to get in. if posters "made" you get it, do they also spend the rest of the money in your life. some of you sound so pathetic is laughable. you decided to invest in a penny stock on the otc, what did you think... it was a good choice? talk to any broker they will tell you to run from pennies, they are very high risk, you all know that. you are here in hopes to get rich over night and when you lose your money you complain. talk about your wife is going to kill you, well why where you risking money you couldnt afford to lose. all that talk is so pathetic, your down, so are all of us, man up and wait it out, fold your hand and move on, either way its your own decision, just like it was for you to buy. Man, I cant stand these people in real life, always blame everything on everyone else, never look in the mirror.
all just my opinion
tony you go from this post to, this company is going bankrupt and why would anyone sign up for the service... take the meds today?
wow kielbasa you sold below todays low, how? and you cancel the sub because you dont like the stock, I doubt you ever had either you also said you sold out months ago, how many times can one sell out, and below the days low, LOL
sentinel why are you and wick even board mods, most of your posts are against the company. odd
nice to see only the good posts get deleted while all the crying get to get posted, great mods we have here
duda, did you set up to work for 6-8 hours at each stop you made? I didnt say they couldnt do it, but they have been out there for more than 2 months, I dont think its to much to ask to give them a few more days off. you did it for 3 weeks, could you have gone for another 6 weeks no problem?
you can all think whatever you want, you will cut it down no matter what because your not happy with how they spent money on the bus trip. thats fine. I really dont care to talk about it anymore, its a total waste of time. some of you think just because a job isnt physically demanding its not stressful and cant wear on you. I guess you have never had a real job. oh well good luck to all of you, some of you need it more than others. but what I dont understand is that if some of you are so against what the company does, why in the heck are you still here. sell and move on, move on to a company you see more eye to eye with, wouldnt that be better than sitting here and crying about everything, my god show the company you dont approve by selling, not crying on here
just my opinion
xanadu, up until that 11 day break they had about 20 stops in about 45 days, not to mention about 20 days of driving. so they got about 5 days off in that time. when the normal person gets about 12 days off. now personally I would want to give my crew a time to rechsarge the batteries and not get burned out and show it at the stops. and who is to say the crew didnt make a few mini stops in that 11 day lay off. either way I would be happy to give them 11 days off after what they had been through in the previous 6 weeks. these guys are in there 20's I imagine have never done such a trip, it was probably wearing them out. BUT yet you say no break keep going. do you want them to look wore out at the stops? and even if they get a day off they still get screwed. they cant do whatever they want like you and I.
they need to recharge for the stretch they are about to hit, stops 23, 24, 25, 26 have about 4000 miles between them and 13 days of set up all this do be done in 23 days. so if they drive 10 hours a day with stops they will have about 3 days off in that 23 day strech, you and I would get 6 days off.
I know its easy for you to sit back and judge, after all its not you out there. whatever they did it wouldnt be good enough for someone like you.
all just my opinion
xanadu atleast you and other dont ask much. dont these guys on the tour deserve just as much time off as you and me? 2 days a week. can you imagine being packed in a bus for 3 months with anyone much less co-workers. and yet you want them to make stops between stops. wow
some of these stops are 7, 8 900 miles between each other. and they have 3 4 and 5 days between. so they set up for two or 3 days and then move on. in september they made stops from the 15th to the 24th except the 21st. thats 9 out of ten days. and that 10th day was spent driving. then they drove from orlando on the 24th to little rock to set up on the 28th. thats 950+ miles away. now assume they drive 65 miles an hour, I wouldnt want to take that rig any faster than that. BUT they probably didnt do 65 mph or anywhere near it, they do have city driving, and toll ways. so lets say they average 55 mph on that trip. thats 17 hours of driving. now they have to stop for gas and to eat, so may as well say it was atleast a 20 hour trip, and I left out road construction.
and you dont think for one second that when they are stopped for gas or food that people are not asking questions and they are not spending extra time at these stops. so now that trip was probably more like 22-24 hours between orlando and little rock. so they maybe had one day off once they got there. and then they set up and moved on to dallas the very next day for a 3 day set up.
should I go on? so in a 16 day span they may have had 1 day off. but thats not good enough for you, you think they need to milk more stops. yeah lets work them into the ground as long as its not us doing the work. I mean the 2 or 3 day breaks they have coming up are way to much, they should be working more. just because they have to go from salt lake to dallas for a 3 day stop and then to chicago all in a ten day span, I think we could get more from them.
lets make them work 6 or 7 days a week, why should they get days off.
do some of you even think before you talk.
all just my opinion
xanadu all their efforts for the past two years with CC and all havent drawn 20k in subs. so way to put your neck out on the line with that statement. fact is the subs took a big jump in september and I dont think its coincidence thats the same months the tour started. they got over 2,000 members in sept. simple math will show you that. all just my opinion
billboards are costly, you say strategic places, and then you say cities with great population, well then you have no idea what your talking about.
average cost for a billboard is $2.50 per thousand. they measure the traffic by each one. a bigger city, will get 100 to 200k per day, thats an average of 150k at $2.50 per thousand. thats $11,250 a month per sign, you said 50, thats $562,500 per month, you said 3 months, thats $1,687,500 FOR 3 months.... and this would CERTAINLY cost less than the tour? heck cut that number in half and say they are reaching 75k a day and its $843,750. now my number are not right on but they are very close.
and believe me only 75k car passes per day is not a very big city.
also, they need to see the sign, look at it while driving, then write down the web address, how often would that happen, then they still need to educate themselves on the product and service once to the site.
so that tour costs more than a million, wow teach yourself before you speak.
all just my opinion
I didnt realize it was a lease, yes that would be much cheaper, I guess I never got into the details of it was a lease or buy, I didnt care, it sounds like they will be doing more than one of these trips, next year.
so if its leased great, it will be much cheaper, if they bought it fine also, not like they cant resell it when the tour is over, if its 200k new and they run 30k miles on it, they should still get over 100k for it.
all these options are way below 500k. funny wick is a board mod. usually they dont try to point out so many negative things about the company they are in, makes you wonder.same goes for sentinel i guess
tony they are on 2 or 3 of the top 10 sites on the net, isnt that enough for you? what is more reputable then that? do you even know what sites they are on? if so you better go to alexa and run some numbers.
I suppose only yahoo or google are good for you, only the two most expensive sites on the net to put ads on. also the sites we are on like myspace and youtube are geared towards 35 and under users, the gamer ages we are looking for and both of these rank in the top 9 on the web. they are doing just fine with web ads.
are far as tv goes, Im sure thats very expensive as well, personally I like the tour, I have from day one, I talked to a few friends I know that market for a few of the biggest magazines on the store shelf. I asked them their honest opinion on that type of marketing, they thought it was a very good idea. they liked the face to face contact. how they could answer questions on the spot and explain the program.
you have to remember a web ad doesnt say much, and neither does a tv commercial, the person still has to teach themselves on what is being sold and how the product works. Yes tv is nice, but I also like this tour, I think its working accourding to the numbers, we had a nice spike in september if you know simple math and look at the q report you can see september was a good month, and the bus tour started in september, I guess thats just a coincidence?
all just my opinion
its not even a bus, its a motor home. its made by damon, I think its the tuscany model and that is the most expensive, but its not the current year, so it is last years model or a used model. the brand new one ranges from 210-216k. thats a long way from 500k. and if they bought it at the end of year our used they probably have 175k or less in it. just go to a camper rv show at the end of season. even if putting the big graphics sticker on it costs 20k its still less than 250k. still HALF of the 500k, maybe wick needs to do some DD on the "bus" costs.
as far as who they hired, think about it. this is pretty much a 3 month road trip, no going home. home many people where up for this type of job? can't have a family. How many willing to go on a 3 month road trip, drive the bus yourself and sleep on it. and not come home for months. you think they where going to get some pro salesman for this, and if so what would they need to pay these pros? then people would be crying about that.
all just my opinion
wick since when does a bus like that cost 500k? if it sleeps 3 or 4 it may have cost 250k and thats if it is brand new. and did you expect them to have 30 year old family men to be on the tour, leave their families for 3 months.
think before you speak sometimes.
also subs went way up in september, we know this by the number in the Q, thats the same month the bus tour started, so I would guess its working.
yeah they could have left out the steak house podcast, but its not like it wasnt checked by someone before posting it. not like those guys snuck it up there and cant get it off the site.
people wake up, you all knew they had about 8,400 subs just a few months ago, and now they have about 11,800 and everyone is crying. what in the world did you expect? did you expect the subs to triple in 3 months? if you did your a fool.
and how can you say 11k subs is bad, you knew only 3 months ago they had a lot less. you must have thought 8k was really bad, so why invest or why not walk away? you knew what they had, they grew about 30% and you cry. its your own fault for setting such high expectations.
i mean how can you know they have 8k subs and hold on or buy, and then when it goes to almost 12k you cry about it? like you didnt know it was in that range. 8k subs was pathetic, a 30% is nice, the fact that many of those where in september is great. that shows the marketing is starting to pay off, now in october we see all the online ads. it can only get better.
fact is the subs for the next q report will probably be about 18k and people will cry about it, even thought they knew they only had 12k before. some people will never be happy, they expect the world, even thought they are in a high risk otc.
the only pathetic ones are the ones crying about the increase of 30% in subs. most of you probably dont even own shares. did you expect a one quarter miracle even though the bus tour had just started and the cc rollout was barely half done. and the cc product needs time in the stores, its not over night just because its there.
good luck, all just my opinion
if you want netflix buy them, but what stock has a better chance to double? enuff said.
you want the proven company go get them, must be some reason your all here. dont buy a penny and expect blue chip results.
sirius, yeah when they hyped it up when they where not ready for the business and then they had a 45% churn rate, that is now down to 12% that alone is a sign that the business is getting much better, they have 4 times the subs and are losing 3 times less. even netflix has 5% churn. still think people expect to much from a penny stock on the otc, just my opinion
I love how many people have such high expectations for a stock worth less than a penny a share. this is a very small company and a very high risk investment and people act like they should be doing this and that and blah blah blah, if you want someone proven in this market buy nflx, only difference they are $27.00 a share.... or about 8,700 times our share price.
this is micro penny high risk land, a company grows 30% in a quarter, 400% in a year... and people cant stop crying, its funny to watch
all just my opinion
sirius 11,800 is about 400% increase over last year at this time. they have really only been trying for the last 4 or 5 months. Im not saing 11,800 is great, but they are trying and the numbers are growing and should only get better. what do you expect for a stock worth under a half penny
how could gzfx destroy us, where does your responsibility come from? funny how people buy a high risk stock and blame others when they lose money. sometimes you need to look into the mirror
tony123, what was the average sub base the last 3 months.... 9,300? what is the total number of subs.... 11,800? how could we end the quarter with 2,500 subs over the average.... only with a lot of subs added in september. last question, when did the bus tour start? begining of september. yeah it must not be working or a good idea.
how many subs did the bus tour ad, we know the subs went way up in september, and the bus tour started in september, seems the bus tour is working
subs up 25-30% september was a big month and people are dumping, got to love it