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We are talking cars NOT cell phones.
Also, I don't care what teslas warranty says as whatever is wring with the car and IF there is a modification to the car, that modification has to be the cause of the issue for it not to be covered under warranty.
OK, so first off I didn't state you were in Canada did I?
Also, I don't live in California so I'm not interested is stopping by.
Here is some information to hand over to a good attorney and maybe he or she will understand it:
Lol really???
Ok, so please provide the following:
Proof of a release related to this so called "unannounced layoffs".
Proof of a release that Steve is moving to SMI and ONLY selling cars under that name.
Regards :)
Simply incorrect.
Say what you want and everyone is untitled to there own opinion as this is the United States of America but you are incorrect.
A manufacture cannot just void a warranty because a modification has been made. You are completely wrong.
Now IF the modification(s) caused the problem they can say that it isnt covered under the warranty and you would have to pay for it. But they cannot say "since you put on a different filter charger unit and replaced the factory you warranty is void"
Very easily with a GOOD attorney you could sue the manufacture aAND dealer and WIN!
Like I said, a good attorney.
Have a good day!
If the issue is NOT caused by the modification they cannot just simply void the warranty. Doesn't work like that but thanks anyways.
Lol.. Another one really?
Well the author Frederic Lambert is just a troll.
Flat out talking about pumping/dumping a stock and bringing up ihub in the article makes it very very suspicious in my opinion.
Honestly, anyone reading that article and then coming on here will figure out that the article is just trying to point fingers at other posters of this site when he knows absolutely nothing about them.
Again, tesla cannot just void a warranty because they want to. Many they do that in Canada but NOT in the United States.
What is so interesting about all of this is its not true at least for me.
I have taken several Saleen vehicles to several different ford dealers both Saleen AND non Saleen dealerships and non of those points have ever happened.
This is my own personal experience and everyones experience can be different based on your own personal relationship with the dealer and the dealers own knowledge about performance vehicles etc.
Again, just because a vehicle is modified cannot just automatically void the vehicles warranty.
This law:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
Now this "could" be used in Canada IF you had a lot of money but with Canada being behind the factory jobs it is very unlikely you could win.
United States law above is what I have referred to how Tesla cannot just "void" a warranty because they feel like it.
This is why Frederic Lambert doesn't know what he is taking about. He is from Canada and doesn't know United States Warranty laws. His articles are proof of this.
Right... Lol ok
So does he want a cookie?
Time will tell us if he was ultimately right or not.
I do know he is completely incorrect about warranty and no knowledge about Saleen or its vehicles. Has never owned one or even been in one so he is far from an expert or someone that I would listen too. Because normally when someone comes out of the woodwork that has NO knowledge about something but acts like they do means only one thing. And well, I think we all know my opinion about Frederic Lambert already haha!
Oh ya that's because on that screen it doesn't show more then 2 decimal points. Don't worry, its not at zero but thanks anyways!
Ah yes. Another interesting read for sure...
Problem is that the author or troll as I will call him still doesn't know what the United States warranty law is as he is from Canada.
He had zero knowledge about Saleen until the announcement of the Saleen Tesla BUT he acts like an expert?
Very far from it and I will say Frederic Lambert needs to worry more about his doors instead of Saleen.
No, not at all.
First off, there is nothing to prove the number of shares converted until the next filing. Everything till then is a guess.
All three not true and didn't happen but thanks anyways lol
Hmm let's see here:
Saying that they are worse referring to those numbers is referring to current filing/1st quarter.
So I repeat, please supply proof to where that came from because I am unable to locate this information thanks!
Lol
I asked for current (may 2015) to back these numbers... Not old 5 months ago information.
I knew there wasn't anything to support these numbers but thanks anyways.
Please provide a link to these fabricated numbers in a the May quarterly filing thanks. I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Yes I did!
Here is the direct link to the article talking about the 2015 Saleen Mustang Black Label:
http://www.hotrod.com/news/1503-saleen-unveils-730hp-mustang-302-black-label/
Please supply the 8K for the funding at the end of March, April or May so far thanks. Oh, thats right they haven't AND are still operating LOL!
Back pedaling to something that was stated for that time means nothing at all... I never stated that it would NEVER go below that. Please provide proof where I did Thanks!
How about them being closed over a year ago... That has NEVER HAPPENED NOW HAS IT???
That wasnt a prodiction... It was an example at THAT TIME. Twisting what was stated is ridiculous.
Regardless, Saleen has produced many cars over the last couple of months... Both Saleem Mustangs in all 3 trim levels and also several Saleen GTX's. Proof of this has been provided many times with pictures and video without anything being blacked out.
Still a bunch of opened ended opinions from Frederic Lambert with blacked out emails and contact information makes him a very non creditable source. My son has more of a clue what Saleen is and what kind of cars they build and he is only 5 years old LOL.
No, incorrect!
Let me respond to these couple of questions:
There is no proof to be provided regarding this until the next filing! (number of converted shares)
Going off of old filings provides non up to date information. So please provide current up to date information that isnt several months old thanks!
Remember, they weren't suppose to make it through march OR april (based on the same opinions for over a year) but here it is almost the middle of may and they are very busy.
Hmmm not true!
I called there today and they answered...
So not true.
Complete not true!
It was a customers car. Just like the picture I posted from September 2014 was also a customers car.
There was nothing wrong with the car, it was just going to a customer.
Regards :)
I don't need to... I know the so called "claims" are a bunch of garbage.
Just a bunch of twisted words from a troll that doesn't know a thing about the automotive sector and wrote a so called "article" based on information from June but wrote it in August.
Maybe the troll should know how Vehicle Warranties are handled down here and the good old USA before making up a bunch of garbage and posting it.
Also, maybe not blocking out most of the information related to the email would make him more believable... But then again Trolls don't do that. LOL
Blacked out information again huh?
All that says is that Tesla is not involved with Saleen. So what?
We already know this so that is not new and a waste of an email.
Writing an article? Lol what a joke. Its just a troll wanting to be heard is all.
Maybe Mr Lambert should know the united states warranty laws before writing the so called "article" lol
Just wait for the next filing to prove an increase in revenue with another increase to follow for the 2nd quarter 2015.
Wait a second, I'm confused...
This month HUH? I thought it was last month? Or the month before that? Or how about the month before that? Huh?
Below is several of MANY key points made over and over again that are simply incorrect and never happened:
(Posted 4-3-15)
Really? Never asserted anything???
Quote from the troll:
Nope, listening to Mr Lambert when he is just a troll... Nothing more.
Again, No US Warrany knowledge alone says a lot about him.
He needs to take care of the Doors he sells instead of acting like he knows anything about a company based in the USA that is in a completely different sectors then he works in.
Revenue will increase which will also increase the stock price from the current levels.
Everyone loves the 2015 Mustang and also LOVES the 2015 Saleen Mustang!
Lets rev up for a GREAT 2015!
The other knows NOTHING about Saleen, has never been to a Saleen facility past or present and also doesn't know United States Warranty Laws.
For someone that lacks A LOT of knowledge it is very hard to listen to him. Maybe if he was actually at any of the events for a first hand account then just maybe we can believe him. Which is far from the case.
I would be able to if he was in the automotive sector or the investment sector but that is not the case... He sells doors and they aren't for cars either!
Another thing is he is from CANADA... Not even from the United States! Anyone can have an "opinion" but that doesn't make him an expert by any means.
As for the stock price, it will reverse especially once the next filing comes out showing an increase in revenue!
Absolutely.
Warranty:
Tesla can't just "void" the warranty because they want to. CANNOT be done. The laws down here are different then Canadian laws so I don't expect someone from Canada to understand. Anyone can say yes they can, yes they can but it is NOT that simple.
Opinions:
Open ended opinions... Not including the full email as to what exactly was asked... Twisting words around to make it seem one way when it is not. Blocking out portions of an email or address etc.
Knowledge:
Absolutely no knowledge about Saleen until the Saleen Tesla Announcement... That makes this person a so called expert? LOL Now thats funny. Again, just a troll nothing more.
Lives in Canada, doesn't know US Warranty Laws, knows NOTHING about Saleen, provides speculation/opinion just because he "thinks" he knows about Saleen etc etc.
Maybe the door manufacture he works for will get into the automotive sector so then maybe, just maybe he could call himself an "expert".
Yes Yes, I know...
Again:
1. Saleen had NO MUSTANG sales in the 4th quarter and i believe the same for 3rd quarter 2014.
2. All 3 trim levels are now available from Saleen and will help increase the revenue for the next filing.
2. Second quarter 2015 will look even better then the first quarter with even more Saleen mustangs produced April-June 2015.
With the lack of mustang production on the filings, the revenue was extremely low. That won't be the case for 2015.
Hmm, lets see here:
1. 2015 Saleen Mustang Black Label introduced and orders have been placed.
2. Many 2015 Saleen Mustangs in various trim levels have been/are being produced (many pictures/videos for proof of this)
3. Multiple Saleen GTX's have been produced (again, proof of this via Pics)
So yes, 2015 is a GREAT year with more to come.
Stock price, its not zero... Actually in Canadian dollars its at $0.01 so again not at zero.
I'll make it clear:
Mr Frederic Lambert is nothing more then a troll. He thinks that he can just put up a site with some bs opinions and its all true. Thats not the case.
This is also coming from someone that doesn't know united stated warranty laws since he is in Canada.
So the points:
1. From Canada
2. Not in the investment or automotive sector to be able to call himself an "expert"
3. Doesn't know US warranty laws again because he is from Canada
4. Open ended opinions... Blacked out email addresses, not included what HE emailed every time etc.
5. Didn't even know who Saleen was but all of the suddon he is an expert?
Maybe he should focus on something he knows more about.. Like doors (since that IS the profession he is in) instead of sticking his nose in a company like Saleen that he knows absolutely nothing about or for that matter the automotive sector.
Regards :)
Again, all speculation and not true.
They will have increased revenue this next filing. They have produced more Saleen GTX's and many Saleen Mustangs in various trim leveles (all proven with many pics and videos)
I can also project that I will win the lottery and that means nothing.
Below is several of MANY key points made over and over again that are simply incorrect and never happened:
(Posted 4-3-15)
I'm not going to speculate how much other then there will be an increase for sure from last filing. Remember, there was NO MUSTANG SALES on the last TWO filings!
As for zero, last time I checked it wasn't at zero. But thanks!
Nope, 100% incorrect!
What if I sent that car out there to Saleen... It isn't borrowed it is there to become a Saleen GTX.
So, 100% completely incorrect!
We will see not too long from now the next filing showing the increase in revenue to put this ALL to rest.
Regards :)
It is surprising that the some of the pure race, ultra-run origin of American Muscle Car Brand race-lun (Saleen), is trying to be the fans break this awareness. For 30 years, Mr. David CHU has won numerous competitions, champion, to flag the Race a Mr. David CHU Mustang (Saleen Mustang) series known in the world, and the 2014 Beijing car show, show the world the running of races, Wang Lin S7 (Saleen S7). Recently, Mr. David CHU brand announced that the 2015 4 at the end of Shanghai Auto Show, to the administrative level of the luxury of running through the Global first!
This is legendary racing founder Steve (Steve Saleen) in the race-lin over more than 30 years of the first attempt, and is also the first one that the American Muscle Car brand launch the administrative level of luxury. It has been reported that Mr. David CHU to the 2015 Shanghai auto show world's first two Executive Level 4 door luxury sedan chair race XLD, Chinese name given to Mr David CHU • 430 S and Mr. David CHU • S 300.
Parameters, the two models successfully maintain the LUN brand has always been a high-powered, high-performance characteristics, and large leather seat, and undisguised rustic hard. Mr. David CHU's a 300 S is a black, loaded with the variable valve timing (VVT), variable intake valve lift (IVVL) and Mr. David CHU super booster 2.5 liter 4-Cylinder direct injection mechanical boost engine, power output up to 300 horsepower, peak torque of 279 NM, 100 km speed is only 6.9 seconds.
Another upgrade cars for race-lun • S 430, Silver body, loaded with variable valve timing (VVT) and Mr. David CHU super booster 3.6 liter V type 6-Cylinder direct injection engine, the power output up to 430 horsepower, peak torque of 426 NM, 100 km speed up just 6.0 seconds and a maximum speed of 250 km per hour.
Styling, both of the above, the level of luxury with the American muscle cars as well as the air made a slight convergence, and soft front face design, combined with the silver, black and the air intake grille, dual halo Chrome front light looks more suitable for high-handedness, President "50 degrees" of business.
The interior decoration, and Mr. David CHU • 300 S and Mr David CHU • S 430 more emphasis on interior style, the details and tastes as executive level car should have a low-key luxury: mosaic race-lun flag of black leather steering wheel, diamond tread black leather front and rear seats, wood-grain control panel, door trim panel, and can be placed in newspapers, 6 inch leather pockets, built-in cup holder, USB jack and private storage space, and so on.
As is well known, had 3 consecutive championships in Le Mans, France rally top 3 good performance of race-lun, all of the models are proprietary, custom is the world super sports car industry best quality to price ratio of car brands, and with great power and great style.
2015 Shanghai Auto Show, in addition to the first of the above two, the level of running, race-lin will show at the end of March just in North America in 2015, Mr David CHU's a Mustang Deluxe Titanium edition, Deluxe Platinum Edition and 2015 Competition, Mr David CHU's step, Deluxe Platinum Edition, and cars, the American muscle ultra-running in the high-price-performance characteristics to the Peak. Tailor-made one of the super sports car, the price is only other ultra-run brand in a fraction. As race-lun of the founder Steve, Mr. Lam said, "Apart from race-lun, you may not in any part of the world, in order to do this the price to have this power, style, and performance of the super sports car.
Now, Mr. David CHU administrative level of running, for each sways over the interests of the business community's soul provides a completely different from that of the past. From route 66, to cement the urban jungle, where there is an age exclusive male battlefield. Come on, don't forget to bring your wild! April 22-30, 2015, Shanghai Hongqiao, the National Exhibition Center, 6 A 06, Monrovia a the Thai booth, see you there!
Source:
http://saleenforums.soec.org/showthread.php?p=131868
Regards!