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LOL...
excellent use of the audio feature....
Good Lord...
Please save this dude from himself....
LOL....
I have taken my game to the next level...
Torvec vs Toyota basic comparison.....
The two diagrams below are the Toyota Super CVT followed by the Torvec bus IVT from the website.....Just looking a the two diagrams from a quick visual perspective gives one an idea of how many fewer parts are in the Torvec IVT...appears way less complicated and with 180 or so parts vs. 800 or a thousand parts it's not hard to see where the lower weight, less cost to build, less parts that can break...etc etc etc...comes from..
For some reason I cant get the picture of the Torvec IVT to load here but I have pasted the link to it below....
http://torvec.com/images/New_BUS_IVT.jpg
Welcome back...
It's been a multi-media extravaganza here on the hub...
Amen to that jfs...
Have a nice weekend everyone...
"Average: $76 per share.".....
The boat just got a little bigger...
There's print media in Rochester....?
Almost forgot...
Zendo...I thought your post was right on target...
You are now prguy...!
What process has to occur for an Evan Dawson to get his series on Torvec upstreamed to the ABC anhcor desk in NY for national exposure? It would seem that the Torvec stroy is heading toward one that needs to be told...
Good luck as well...
Your question to me before you edited it off the board was....
"Tor, Can you explain how I can take a survey twice when the system won't allow you to do so? Why is Dread so afraid of me that he would make up a blantant untruth?"
I'm just sitting here minding my own business.....
...but since you asked...all I know is that we cant take a survey twice using the SAME ihub alias...part two i can't answer for dread, but my opinion is that he's not afraid of you.... he's sick of you and probably sick of all the private email he gets complaining about you..
Found the CH 10 site ...
but there wasn't anything there on the Torvec segment....
Artguy.....
Is there a link to the newscast on Channel 10's site...does anyone know the website for CH 10...
Also...I was looking at your website...you are indeed Artguy..
I admire your work...
If any of you ihub viewers out there had sell stops in place this morning....
....you set yourselves up to be victimized by the MM's...if you put sell stops out there, they will come and get them...you just fed the beast and they are laughing at you....
stop it......(no pun intended).....dont feed the animals
dyna cares...
130,000 shares go off and it goes up a dime...
20,000 share get thrown at the bid and it goes down 75 cents...
I know whats going on...
Institutional TOVC trade action continues......
The Thomson's link below shows that a minimum of 35% of today's trading activity for TOVC is reported as institutional...
http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=TOVC
Nice catch...LOL...
Was able to go edit before the timer ran out..very applicable though...
D1...
It's hard to leave you out when you and sherrif make yourselves the issue...sorry....you two are inseparable..
Res ipsa loquitur.....
Sherriff..
You may want to get the Ambassador to Great Britain on the phone and let him know what's going on...
Also, your comment to speedway about being able to invest in a "start up" company was classic sherrif/dyna language...
let it go...really ...it's ok...
"Petrenko is working to get it for use by his own company."..
Wonder what that means......?
(above quote is from the article posted by Jethro...assumed it was Clampett....could have been Tull)
Just saw new CEO update on the Torvec website....
has a link to all of the presentation materials that were used at the shareholder meeting, as well as the speeches from all parties.....
The visuals used do really help tell the story...side by sides of old and new tech show the visual in terms of newer, smaller aspects....interesting info..
Jethro...
(OT - When I was kid, I thought Ellie Mae was hot..!)
Question for you on the Ice Tech based on your comment below..
"The researcher at Dartmouth is now complaining that nothing is happening and is trying to bring the technology to market via his own company."
How do you know that the researcher is complaining and trying to bring the tech to market with his own company..?
Since we as Torvec shareholders own the license for that technology, how could the researcher bring the ice tech to market through his own comapny..?
Hi Jethro...
"with the now departed marketing leadership"....LOL
speed...
Jerry Garcia had T-shirts older than that...LOL
I am pulling for all of us...it's all about addin commas...
Hi speedway...
Your point about the Torsen selling with an expired patent is well taken...That is what I was referring to last week when the stock was trading around $3.80 and I indicated that I could make a case for the Iso-torque being worth $3.80 per share on it's own. When you add in the potential for the rest of Torvec's deep tech offerings, you can come up with some very large numbers....
The positioning right now is beautiful...they can run in a number of different directions and are not handcuffed by bad deals from the early stages of the company..why..? because they didn't do any bad deals...I love it when that happens...the catapult is being pulled back...how far will it go when released..?
At a minimum...really far...(to the moon...that's far isn't?)
I am enjoying looking into the future .....
Hi atl....
I had seen that article before...I think it has beeen posted on the board actually...
Fortunately for Torvec investors, Torvec has never succumbed to PIPE financing scenarios, which create death spirals that put the company out of business....the financier loans the company money for stock and immediately and violently starts shorting the stock against the box until there is nothing left...
I would bet that Torvec rejected alot of calls offering to provide "financing" in this fashion...the investors should thank them for not falling into that trap...had that occurred, Torvec would not be here today in my opinion..
Congrats on 3 years of fun and excitement....
Commaraderie and combat...
Facts and opinions...
Comedy and hardache...
Anger and laughter...
Multiple alias posters and singular alias friends...
Many of us get alot out of having this forum thanks to you....keep it up, the finish line is almost in sight...
Thanks dread.....
Come on sheriff....seriously...
Is there any comment that can be left untwisted in your eyes..
Let it go.....it's time to move on...
One other comment...
I tip my hat to the Gleasmans and the management team at Torvec for positioning the company to succeed.....
One day, I would like to hear the following screamed from the rooftops........
"IT'S GONE" !!! ..............
It is a bargain for sure...
Some day I hope you become fiftydollarman....
Random thoughts....
I have been going over and over on the valuation potential in my head ( it's crowded in there) and I can see where the management of Torvec and we shareholders are in an interesting quandry......I can do valuations 25 different ways and in every instance come up with big numbers...even using ultra - conservative market share penetration and profit margins, and streching out time-to-market time lines..etc..etc.doing deals on individual technologies or selling the whole thing...regardless of what events occur, the potetial valuations still come out to be big..this stuff is worth a billion or billions over time....
Maybe I'm protecting myself from my own vivid imagination which I have been accused of having for years here, but I'm am still thinking that if a company was going to acquire Torvec, I keep coming up with a discounted present value number in the $20 to $25 per share range, give or take a few bucks...that of course leaves a HUGE up side when we as shareholders choose to hold the shares of an acquiring company while they unlock the true value of the technologies over time...using 40 million shares as an ownership base and your sitting on an $800 million to a billion dollar acquisition, and the beginning of a very nice ROI era for shareholders of TORVEC...I think the ultimate total return really depends more on shareholders individual exit points and long term hold tolerance....based on the information that came out at the shareholders meeting last week, it is more evident to me now than ever before that this isNOT an "if " they succeed situation...it's a "what magnitude of success" will be achieved and realized for those of us who will hold until the story ends.....
I see the same numbers that many of you see ultimately, just not $50 or $100 in a "one and done" type of deal....I hope I am as wrong about this as I ever have been about anything...If the worst thing that happens to us as shareholders is the company does a series of deals that start to produce revenues off of which predictable multiples can be applied creating an ever growing share price which escalates through the teens and in to the 20's with tech validated and a household name in the market place...we are winners....then let's see what a company would have to pay for Torvec....now your talking a whole different ballgame...big numbers....very big...
I ask this rhetorically...when you read the 8k of the prepared shareholder meeting notes, why in the world would someone sell shares of Torvec now....................................?
The future of Torvec and it's shareholders appears to be very bright indeed......
Would like to go but....
It's winter there and it's a plane ticket....with dread doing such a great job, it's the next best thing to being there...hopefully it's the last one...!!
I got so excited reading dread's highlights that my swash plate inverted itself...I'm ok now though....
Electric diesel...there's always going to be options...you know what is great about what TOVC shareholders are sitting on is that Torvec doesn't have to dominate a segment of the market for each or any of their technologies in order for us to achieve a nice return on our investment....
Based on the number of irons that the company has in the fire, a few of them will ingite and we win...
Anybody that was at the meeting please correct me if I missed something..
Sheriff...I am only going by the dread highlights...I had to go back and look...the only reference to Nissan was relative to the interest in the iso-torque, unless I missinterpretted...the points made on a bidding war didnot include Nissan... "a bidding war has started between the politicians and the Chinese.. The jury is still out on who will win. “And another major, and I mean, MAJOR American , tier one supplier has entered the war with a vengeance!” The tier one supplier has said that the Chinese have become a mortal enemy to their future existence.."".....""Very quickly approaching what could be called “end stage”. Want tovc to provide them with an evaluation of all their technologies so they could formulate a proposal to acquire ALL of Torvec. Now in the process of doing that.""
My opinion...
There's abundant dampness...which is right on the edge of serious wetness...
"Why aren't the shorts looking to cover?"....
How do you know they are not covering slowly into the days action? I bet they are easing in some coverage....Who knows, they may be the ones selling to keep the run down...
dread's highlights indicated that a letter from SAIC/Murtaugh was read at the meeting asking for the ability to review all of Torvec's tech and patents to evaulate the whole company...where do you get that the final stage is killed or delayed out of that..? .. sounds like things have escalated , not slowed down......thats my opinion
I hope that...
People have a sense for where this is heading and hold onto their shares. If there was ever a time to sit on shares of TOVC it's now....donot play into the MM's hands....hold tightly...
Look at what's happening this morning...up to 4.40 with only 13,900 shares traded..there is no stock available...grab tightly and hold on friends...
Welcome back Dino....
Nice night for Torvec...."it's Gone" still resonates with me..
I love quiet periods......
The market sdeems to like what was said last night...
not a good time to be short TOVC...