Is constantly trying to figure out what the h#ll he is doing.
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Once an order has been placed and accepted by a seller, although the 'physical' transfer of that stock is not completed for 3 days, the purchase has been initiated and ownership has been trasferred.
If you have the money in your account when you order to cover it, or have money in your account on the day of the actual physical transfer it is yours. If there are insufficient funds in your account when the deal is closed then ownership reverts to the broker.
One of the reasons that the discount brokers like E*trade won't let you place an order your current accounts can't cover is they don't want to be left holding the bag for your potentially bad choices.
Once an order has been placed and accepted, although the 'physical' transfer of that stock is not completed for 3 days, the purchase has been initiated and ownership has been trasferred.
If you have the money in your account when you order to cover it, or have money in your account on the day of the actual physical transfer it is yours. If there are insufficient funds in your account when the deal is closed then ownership reverts to the broker.
One of the reasons that the discount brokers like E*trade won't let you place an order your current accounts can't cover is they don't want to be left holding the bag for your potentially bad choices.
Knew I should have just sat at 0.6 until late morning. Could have saved myself a couple bucks getting in over 0.66.
It should all wash out in the end though.
Wow,... something is sucking all the air out of NPWZ today,...
No obvious news behind it that I have blundered into yet.
You-all are really entertaining,... You make me wish I actually owned a few token shares,... will probably try & buy a couple hundred at open with some fun money just to be able to take the wife on a nice Spring Break trip courtesy of WAMU,...
Lord knows I paid enough interest to those guys over the years I held one of their Credit Cards. Might as well recoup some of that loss.
Have fun all.
Hey,... I only responded to your earlier post because you asked,.. and you are the moderator. Figured if you didn't like what I typed you could delete it and berate me accoordingly.
As I am of the buy & hold mentality, I don't believe in pump & dump.
I'll go back to my mostly lurking now,...
Yep GO4A, the insider buying is definately also a promising sign. I bought what I am holding between at an average of about $0.031.
Depending on who's take on where this stock could go it could be anywhere between nil and a buck or two over the next year. Longer haul, if the lawsuit goes favorably who knows where it could end up.
Don't bet the farm on it or anything else. I keep the majority of my money in low-cost index funds or bonds and only speculate with what I can afford to get by without.
I'm sitting on about 20K shares of CLYW that I'm hoping does the same thing (or better) over the next year. I've been slowly adding shares since last September.
Highly speculative play, company is currently litigating against another (much bigger) telecom company for patent infringment. Corporate infighting until the last couple of months has impacted the lawsuit. However, it looks like the corporate insiders have finally got their crap together and the lawsuit is proceeding again.
Take a look, do DD, and don't bet any more than you can live without if the lawsuit goes badly. I'n no trader. I tend to buy and wait. Let's just say I am waiting.
What's not to love TallRob? Only wish I had more of it too love!
I'm of the opinion that this will top out at no more than about $25-ish/share this year. Still too much uncertainty in the Commercial Mortgage market and Mall-driven shopping for the next couple of years. That - and if the IPO goes through there will be some dilution of the existing share values.
But - I wouldn't mind seeing ~$35/share,... and I bought in @$0.60/share.
It's all good.
$14.08 as of 10:02,...
Formation Metals Receives First Term Sheet for Project Finance Bank Debt Facility
March 04, 2010
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Vancouver, B.C., March 4, 2010, Formation Metals Inc. (FCO-TSX) ("The Company") is pleased to announce that it has received a non-binding term sheet and expressions of interest from a number of banks with respect to a senior secured project finance debt facility.
The term sheet outlines the general terms and conditions for the loan during the construction phase and the post-completion phase, conditions precedent to closing and drawdown as well as general covenants and other customary terms and conditions that can be expected for a financing of this nature.
The Company, over the last few months has been in general discussions with several banks and is very pleased to have started receiving term sheets. Bank debt financing, together with the proceeds from the current equity financing announced last week, will be used for development of the Idaho Cobalt Project. The Company is unyielding in its commitment to its shareholders to negotiate project finance under the most favourable terms possible and remains confident that all necessary funding can be secured in a timely manner to keep it on the critical path to production.
Formation Metals Inc. is dedicated to the principles of environmentally sound mining and refining practices, and believes that environmental stewardship and mining can co-exist. Formation Metals trades on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol FCO.
Formation Metals Inc.
"Mari-Ann Green"
Mari-Ann Green,
C.E.O.
For further information please contact:
E.R. (Rick) Honsinger, P.Geo., V.P. Corporate Communications
Formation Metals Inc., 1730 -- 999 West Hastings Street, Vancouver, BC, V6C 2W2
Tel: 604-682-6229 - Email: inform@formationmetals.com -- Web: formationmetals.com
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The statements contained in this news release in regard to Formation Metals Inc. that are not purely historical are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including Formation Metals Inc.'s beliefs, expectations, hopes or intentions regarding the future. All forward-looking statements are made as of the date hereof and are based on information available to the parties as of such date. It is important to note that actual outcome and the actual results could differ from those in such forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially include risks and uncertainties such as technological, legislative, corporate, commodity price and marketplace changes.
And,... another step in the right direction as regards the Patent litigation.
Baby steps, but baby steps continuing in the right direction.
A very quiet, low volume day,... Everybody is waiting for the next shoe to drop.
Interesting,... prepare for 'share dilution'
Well,... perhaps I will consider buying a few thousand more shares over the next couple of weeks and sitting on them for the long haul.
Have a relaxing weekend all.
My (non legally trained) view would be that IF T-mobile doesn't think they are going to win in a jury trial, and IF they don't think they can use CLYW corporate infighting as leverage.
THEN they do have an incentive to negotiate.
It is also interesting as a side note that DEUTSCHE TELEKOM (DT)-NYSE has also been thinking about an IPO spin-off of T-mobile USA. Wanting to do an IPO with litigation hanging over their heads could provide an incentive to try and settle earlier.
Who knows?
So it looks like the case has NOT been dismissed,... assuming I am reading this correctly.
I can wait until after December,.... and who knows, something interesting just might happen before then.
Formation Metals Begins Construction of Idaho Cobalt Project
February 25, 2010
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Vancouver, B.C., February 25, 2010, Formation Metals Inc. (FCO-TSX) ("Formation") announces that its 100% owned subsidiary, Formation Capital Corporation, U.S., (the "Company ") has commenced Stage I of construction for its 100% owned Idaho Cobalt Project (the "ICP").
"Commencing Stage I of construction of the mine will keep the overall schedule on-track, with initial production expected in the first or second quarter of 2011", stated Bill Scales, President of the Company. "The past several weeks have been spent assessing the project schedule, scope of work, budget and tendering requests for quotations for project contracts. We are pleased to announce that Dahle Construction, a local heavy construction contractor, has been awarded the contract for timber clearing. Work on the project is currently underway."
"The first stage of construction consists of timber clearing for the crusher and concentrator site, tailings and waste rock storage facility, topsoil stock pile area and road areas around the mill site," stated Guy Jeske, General Manager of the ICP. He continued, "Timber clearing in winter conditions is preferable since the frozen ground helps reduce environmental impacts."
Stage II will see facility construction and mine development fully underway and is expected to begin in the second quarter of 2010. Stage III allows for mine development below the water table and is slated to commence later in the year.
Formation Metals Inc. is dedicated to the principles of environmentally sound mining and refining practices, and believes that environmental stewardship and mining can co-exist. Formation Metals trades on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol FCO.
Formation Metals Inc.
"Mari-Ann Green"
Mari-Ann Green,
C.E.O.
For further information please contact:
E.R. (Rick) Honsinger, P.Geo., V.P. Corporate Communications
Formation Metals Inc., 1730 -- 999 West Hastings Street, Vancouver, BC, V6C 2W2
Tel: 604-682-6229 - Email: inform@formationmetals.com -- Web: formationmetals.com
________________________________________
The statements contained in this news release in regard to Formation Metals Inc. that are not purely historical are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including Formation Metals Inc.'s beliefs, expectations, hopes or intentions regarding the future. All forward-looking statements are made as of the date hereof and are based on information available to the parties as of such date. It is important to note that actual outcome and the actual results could differ from those in such forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially include risks and uncertainties such as technological, legislative, corporate, commodity price and marketplace changes.
xxxtrader,.... I love the way you think.
:D
Formation Metals Announces Preliminary Short Form Prospectus Equity Offering
February 24, 2010
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NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION TO UNITED STATES NEWSWIRE SERVICES OR FOR DISSEMINATION IN THE UNITED STATES
Vancouver, B.C., February 24, 2010, Formation Metals Inc. (FCO-TSX) (the "Company") is pleased to announce it has obtained a receipt for the filing of a preliminary short form prospectus dated February 23, 2010, in all of the provinces of Canada, except Québec, in respect of an offering (the "Offering") of up to 18,750,000 units (the "Units") of the Company for gross proceeds of up to $30,000,000. Each Unit will be comprised of one common share in the capital of the Company (a "Common Share") and one half of one Common Share purchase warrant. Each whole Common Share purchase warrant (a "Warrant") will entitle the holder to purchase one Common Share at a price of $2.00 for 24 months from closing of the Offering. The Offering is subject to certain conditions including, but not limited to, the receipt of all necessary approvals, including the acceptance of the Toronto Stock Exchange.
The Offering is expected to close on or about March 11, 2010. The Offering will be conducted on a best efforts agency basis. Jennings Capital Inc. is the lead agent of a syndicate that includes CI Capital Markets Inc. and Acumen Capital Finance Partners Limited (collectively, the "Agents"). The Agents will be granted an option, exercisable at any time until 30 days following the closing of the Offering, to purchase up to 2,812,500 additional Units (in any combination of Units or Warrants not to exceed 2,812,500 Units or 1,406,250 Warrants) to cover over-allotments, if any and for market stabilization purposes.
In consideration for the services to be rendered by the Agents under the Offering, the Agents will receive a cash commission of 6.5% of the gross proceeds of the Units (including any Units issued as a result of the exercise of the Agents' over-allotment option). The Agents will also receive broker warrants to purchase an aggregate number of common shares (the "Broker Shares") equal to 6.5% of the number of Units issued under the Offering (including Units issued upon exercise of the Agents' over-allotment option).
The Company plans to use the proceeds of the Offering to fund construction at the Idaho Cobalt Project and the Big Creek Hydrometallurgical Complex, for bonding requirements and for general corporate purposes.
The offering contemplated in the Amended and Restated Preliminary Short Form Prospectus of the Company dated December 10, 2009 will not be proceeding and such prospectus has been withdrawn.
"After successfully completing the permitting process in November of last year, we are now very pleased to be raising funds to commence construction of our high purity cobalt project. The Company and its financial advisor determined, after lengthy negotiation, that the current market for high yield debt was prohibitive and the project is likely more suitable to conventional bank financing under less onerous terms" stated Mari-Ann Green, CEO of Formation Metals Inc. She continued, "Accordingly, the Company is also pleased to report it is in discussions with several banks for project financing. In addition to banks, discussions have commenced with cobalt end users, off-takers, and metal trading houses. These discussions will continue during construction." Ms. Green concluded, "We are on target to commence initial production of high purity cobalt metal in the first or second quarter of 2011".
These securities have not been registered under the United States Securities Act of 1933, as amended, (the "US Securities Act") or any state securities law, and they may not be sold in the United States or to or for the account or benefit of "US persons" as defined in Regulation S under the US Securities Act unless an exemption from registration is available. This press release does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy these securities in the United States or to US persons.
Formation Metals Inc. is dedicated to the principles of environmentally sound mining and refining practices, and believes that environmental stewardship and mining can co-exist. The Company trades on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol FCO.
Formation Metals Inc.
"Mari-Ann Green"
Mari-Ann Green,
CEO
For further information please contact:
E.R. (Rick) Honsinger, P.Geo. V.P. Corporate Communications
Formation Metals Inc., 1730 -- 999 West Hastings Street, Vancouver, BC, V6C 2W2
Tel: 604-682-6229 - Email: inform@FormationMetals.com -- Web: FormationMetals.com
________________________________________
This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of applicable Canadian securities legislation. Generally, forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of forward- looking terminology such as "plans", "expects" or "does not expect", "is expected", "budget", "scheduled", "planned", "estimates", "forecasts", "intends", "anticipates" or "does not anticipate", or "believes", or variations of such words and phrases or state that certain actions, events or results "may" ,"could", "would", "might" or "will be taken", "occur" or "be achieved". Forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results, level of activity, closing of transactions, performance or achievements of the Company to be materially different from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements, including but not limited to: risks related to capital markets and additional funding requirements, fluctuating interest rates and general economic conditions, legislative and regulatory developments, the nature of our customers and rates of default, and competition as well as those factors discussed in the Company's documents filed on SEDAR (www.sedar.com).
Although the Company has attempted to identify important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in forward-looking statements, there may be other factors that cause results not to be as anticipated, estimated or intended. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate, as actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Accordingly, readers should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. The Company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements that are contained herein, except in accordance with applicable securities laws. Further information on the Company is available at www.sedar.com.
The statements contained in this news release in regard to Formation Metals Inc. that are not purely historical are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including Formation Metals Inc.'s beliefs, expectations, hopes or intentions regarding the future. All forward-looking statements are made as of the date hereof and are based on information available to the parties as of such date. It is important to note that actual outcome and the actual results could differ from those in such forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially include risks and uncertainties such as technological, legislative, corporate, commodity price and marketplace changes.
No skin off my nose,... I'll use the time to decide if I want to accumulate more shares as I get some 'fun' investment money shook free, or just sit where I am.
I wasn't planning on retiring for a decade or more,...
;)
Thanks for the venue info Atra. I figured it was going to be at least partially a 'home-turf' kind of arguement.
Good to know about the other info too.
Average Volume over the last 10 days 4800 shares,... resulting in share price gently drifting back down below $1.60 US.
Hopefully activity will pick back up again once the primary site thaws, and construction activity begins picking up in Spring.
Until then,... I'll be saving up some spare bucks.
Back to the waiting game again it appears.
So - any ideas as to whether the next several months will be filled with inactivity, or whether the parties in the Federal Lawsuit will use the time and preliminary documentation to reach some sort of out-of court settlement?
Also - any ideas as to why a change of venue to Washington was added?
I know I was watching (unregistered) this particular board since about November '09. My guess - several 'lurkers' are about.
Ditto db7,... added some more this week as well at 0.035.
I'm as in as I am going to get at this stage. Good Luck to all of us.
Share price just ain't moving at all today,... must be a sign everybody is holding their cards and waiting for news,...
Ha! I wish I had the free capital to 'only' buy $20K of stock.
It is a good report - and I usually don't care for 60 Minutes.
Anything that increases understanding of how the systems work, and increases visibility of fuel cells in general is a good thing for NPWZ.
Fine by me if it happens again,... just gives me a chance to sock away some more shares for the longer term at the lower prices.
I wasn't planning on selling in the short term anyway.
Way cool by my book,... now the only real question is - can they keep it up for more than a single Quarter?
Thanks for that bit of inside info my evil twin. I've only been holding clyw since about last August and any don't have access to my own version of institutional memory of time prior to '09.
I'll watch for what happens at $0.045.
And Good Luck to you as well.
You too? I'm guessing I will be buying in a bit higher than that next week.
Greed (at least in restrained doses) is not an entirely bad thing REFRMANIAC.
Slow and steady works for me,.... as long as the trendline remains up.
Exactly REFRMANIAC - which is why I am small fish here,... only betting what I know I can afford to lose should things not work out so well.
But I got enough shares on hand to make my smile a seriously big one IF it does work out.
Don't wait too long on me. I'm a small fish among this bunch.
I picked some up right after open myself @$0.03. I'm sure hoping it goes up - but should have some more $'s free to put in Monday/Tuesday next week.
Kind of hoping it holds off going up until at least then,..
:D
Not sure how up to date the info is, but according to the tools on E*Trade ~17.6% of shares are held by the top 10 shareholders with Diac & Williamson the top two.
Williams has ~3 million shares now, Walsh ~1.6 million, Pierce ~550K.
Formation Metals Inc. Receives Approval from Forest Service to Begin Construction on Idaho Cobalt Mine
Approval Notice Here - Dec. 9, 2009
Thoughts? I'll try to keep updates coming as they become public.