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Obviously the investors here on this board are relying on an unproven Short conspiracy, its been stated many times "its the shorts" that is all people seem to be relying upon. In my opinion, Once again the financials were not positive, expenses outweighed any revenue. Short on Cash, Best case scenario continues to be a sale to a larger company with bigger and better R&D. Smaller companies are being bought now by the major ones to increase their cloud capabilities. The PEG has never been profitable so I doubt any company is interested in that division. Even if so, there will be no short squeeze, and valuation will not increase value of current stock price.
The other problem here is why own a stock that has no liquidity, only way for the PPS to rise is a liquid market where people want to buy raising the price, if all are held and no one sells, no one will buy, no rise to pps. Even if TEVE shows great future success they will have to increase share availability to become liquid, and that causes dilution. Splits do nothing as the percentage held remains the same.
No insider buys, no grand purchases from current shareholders, or very small, if this was to make millions, what's a few dollars per share. Buy all you can regardless of price you'll still make millions, why let someone else get the shares you want?
Of course I do, gives others something to talk about, along with the massive short conspiracy that will drive this stock to the moon, even though the fundamentals are not there. The shareholders going into that front office for the meeting shouldn't expect much, anything positive would have been PR'd by now. Proxy said nothing and nothing to vote on as it really doesn't matter what the minority want. But just in case something comes up, like a trip to Hawaii, I may have to pass.
and yet nothing about telvue or how their products relate to his tips, was this on telvues website or his own blog or ??
not much at all, not many shares to cover if at all, and the one your watching has no proof of shorts either, its what the bag holders claim when they lose their shirts.
Splits do nothing, as for dividends, Telvue would be very foolish to pay any dividend as they need to rehire employees they've let go first, fund their R&D, make a large enough profit to be uplisted, then maybe 10 years from now If they survive, they may think about it. Remember there are many million dollar companies that don't pay dividends as they find other more pertinent items to spend their money on. One is to pay the interest owed to mr Lenfest. This isn't rocket science to figure out.
First, I've stated the reasons why I believe there are no shorts, there is no evidence of any whether in the multiple short listings, FTD's or during the reverse split and consolidation. With the limited trades since, there can be no shorts. Dividends?? from where?? and let me remind you splits either forward or reverse mean absolutely nothing as to the overall shareholders value nor the percentage of ownership. Splits mean nothing. Oh and the fat lady is dying.
The answer to your question is NO as there is no comparison. To quote the post:
or a cheeseburger, Whereas Telvue claims a few PEG channels, what alen just advertised was that CloudShare has:
You do realize you are advertising for Cloudshare, as your post has nothing to do with TEVE.
Like I said, very sad!!
Nope i see no trades, I do see you on this board and another getting angry that no one else is buying, 20 shares in months??? Guess maybe the shorts have the remaining shares.
are you now yelling at people to buy those shares? And no one is?? So sad!!!
Sure, in your way of thinking that was a comparison, but in reality no comparison whatsoever. Some have lost a fortune and only continue the drivel to keep others from selling just to preserve their own sanity instead of the reality of how much they lost. Don't sell now, that would be a waste, but don't have the grand illusion of wealth with TEVE. PPS would have to rise back to 100 dollars a share just for some to break even, don't think so. Illiquid stock, Dark stock. Too bad some listened to the wrong person. TEVE never should have been a public company, there was never any viable reason for doing so. Mr Lenfest was lucky once, not so well after that. He's moved on. The reverse split was a joke, Mr Hume settng the company up for the delisting/sale. See you at the meeting, this will be interesting as I'm sure there will be no answers, no future.
Comedy hour has begun, thanks for the humor, better than remembering the 700,000 dollar loss and what that would mean to the kids and grandkids, and after the 20+ percent this year rise in the market another 140 thousand lost, but in a way, that's funny too!!!
Some may even be the same person!! For TEVE, shorts don't affect anything, if TEVE gave a secondary offering for capital, would cause dilution and may cause them to offer more shares than before, but that only affects the current shareholders not the company itself. And it is counterintuitive to think you have to buy low and keep it hush hush, Joe says it all the times, people buy a stock that's going up, so pay the ask, raise the price, get more investors, shorts then lose, I'm sure TEVE's financials will support such a high pps, then when the pps hits 1000 a share, and the company is valued at several billion dollars, for their one building, yady yady yady...... nothing the longs say makes sense, yet some are following blindly. Oh and soon they will know the errors they've made.
They were not shorts, no conspiracy here, They were investors that had enough of losing their money and sold to get what they could. Because Joe stated the 1 for 200 was a stupid idea, and they said, joe must be right, I better sell now to get what I can. Pretty smart those that sold at 70 dollars each, 30 percent loss is much better than 95 percent.
Now that I agree, but sales of stock are not much higher than the current price, some are at a premium, most are not. I think a private company may buy, but the major ones already have technology above and beyond what TEVE has. Still not much for the shareholder and definitely has nothing to do with nonexistant shorts.
Show me one person that has tried to bankrupt the company! The share price has nothing to do with the company going or not going bankrupt. Once the shares are on the market all it is is a trade between people, the company continues on as normal. Even a short in normal stocks do not cause the company to fail, only the company is responsible for that, thus the 1 for 200 reverse split handled by the company has done more damage than any one stock holder. But for shorts, I have already listed plenty of verifiable reasons why there are no shorts.
THERE ARE NO TEVE SHORTS. Of course it's the shorts playbook by telling you THERE ARE NO SHORTS. So funny. Less than a month for the "shareholders" meeting. Back to the shorts, someone recently posted another stock name that was having a forward split thinking the
"shorts" would be in trouble. Let me remind you that forward or reverse splits mean nothing to the shorts, all ratio's stay the same, the value stays the same, the accounting stays the same, oh and since there are no shorts maybe I'll bring that up at the shareholders meeting, for someone to provide proof they exist. Or why not change the companies name and ticker symbol causing all old shares to be recalled, that would really cause the shorts to run scared. Looks like my bosses are going to let me attend the meeting. Hope they have an extra chair, See you there!!!
What you failed to read in your link you provided, is ongoing issues:
You too are in error, a simple on line request was all it took to get the information. Obviously the email is a standard email. The secrecy behind the information was ludicrous, all it took was five minutes to find out. Just like when the request will be made for after the meeting.
Joe, I did not buy a single share, I just asked for the information and this is what they sent me. Now all can decide if they wish to attend or not. No reason to keep info from people, it just may help your cause, you never know.
Dear TelVue Stockholder,
It now appears that the date for the 2013 TelVue Annual Stockholders Meeting will be Thursday June 20, not June 26. The Meeting time will be 10:00 AM and the location will be at:
300 Barr Harbor Dr, Ste 460,
West Conshohocken, PA 19428
A formal announcement and proxy will be sent out soon.
Sincerely,
--
Emmett Hume
Chief Financial Officer
TelVue Corporation
Office: (800) 885 8886 ext 245
Mobile: (215) 584 3999
ehume@telvue.com
That's because it's all the Shorts fault.
That was the response I expected, I guess since this board is considered the "dark side", that the longs would want to inform all of the time and date so potential investors who stumble upon this board know the info. Strange no one has said, mmmmmmmm. That's ok, Monday I'll make a call, i'm sure corporate has nothing to hide.
To the longs here, when and where is the shareholders meeting?
Point 1: TEVE conducted layoffs last year, but now senior management is leaving, show me a company where 2 vice presidents, multiple directors and managers leave, all within 6 months,and the company is doing well. This is beyond the normal cost cutting. Point 2: Their customers do not mean anything if they don't make a profit? Remember the customers you listed are for PEG, local origination, which has never been profitable. Are you sure they are still customers or are you relying on the website? Now for the cloud, if you saw CNBC a few mornings ago where the CEO of the privately held company BOX was interviewed, the specific issue with the cloud is margins are extremely minute and competition is fierce. I see no positives here in the exodus of management, their customers, their continuing PEG network or anything else for that matter. Of course its the Shorts fault.
Its the "shorts" fault.
Financials are Late, very late, meetings are a joke, 5 minutes, and this one will not make you very happy. I'm looking forward to it. And are you sure they remain in business? I'm sure they are for now, but you also failed to answer the question, you are soley relying on your investment to rise based on the Short conspiracy??
So what you're saying is that it has nothing to do with any type of financials, ability to make a profit, but it is all about the "shorts". Heavily shorted?? Where, as you say with only 30,000 of the 55,000 that lenfest doesn't own remaining, you'd be a fool to short this stock. When the split happened all shares had to be converted, no shorts then as the reverse split would have exposed those with "shorted stock", and not many sold since. Yes a special meeting indeed. Can't wait for that major announcement!!!
I do not warn of any plight, but only bring facts to the board. For you and others bring nothing to the discussion. It is up to you to determine their value. To dismiss them is to be foolish. If this is such a great deal why don't you longs pay the ask, you don't need one hundred shares, but as you say no one is selling, that must mean no one is buying, because there are shares being offered and yet not even you or Joe are buying any. Why is this?? 10 shares is only 200 dollars, a small price to pay for the potential gold mine, no?? And wouldn't the rise in PPS force the shorts to cover?? Isn't that what you are basing the investment on? Shorts and shorts alone? Pay the ask, buy a lot, raise the price, force the shorts to cover, then.....oh my what a mint you will have then. Loans are going cheap, 3 percent, then buy telvue and make 5000 percent, Joe says its a guarantee. Such a deal. Wonder why I didn't think of this sooner. I look forward to the stock sky rocketing, lookout shorts.
hey Gabeh, those are shares I just covered, 10 per day makes a pretty penny. LOL
And yet you still fail to address the problems that TEVE has, and have not given a valid reason to buy this stock. Neither has the one that is telling everyone to buy more with the sole purpose of sticking it to the imaginary shorts. The reason no one is selling is because you would lock in a 90 percent loss, since your 66 shares mean so much you obviously want to hold them. Following the party line may be mentally comforting but that is no investment strategy.
And what about a waste of time and money don't you understand? Last years was as pointless as this years will be. Although I'm sure you'll be in shock when you hear they are looking to privatize through a sale to company xyz as this may be the only way of staying in business. But with only a small amount of shares doesn't matter much. JMHO
Let's look at one more indication. Go to Telvues website and at the bottom of the home page select "Forums". You will notice that there are 32 strings with freshness of 2 years, 13 with freshness of 1 year, and 7 in the last 12 months. The last one was 6 months ago. Break that down further into categories and its been 6 months for the Developers forum, 10 months since the last General Forum post, and over 1 year for the feature request forum. So what happened in the last 6 months that no one is posting on the forum anymore? This is not opinion, check it out for yourself, ask yourself what happened 6 months ago. #1 they failed to get financing, #2 well into the process of people leaving. So what does that mean? not sure but the person running the board, or so it seems, was Daniel Pisarski VP of Engineering, you could ask him but he left TEVE last month. Have a great week!!
And what have the board of directors told you? Seeing that the Chairman is Mr Lenfest, none of the others matter. What he says goes. So seeing that nothing has been said by him other than cutting off finances, what else have they said? Seeing that there are no statements from the BOD's, therefore maybe you see something in their actions?? So disregard the mass exodus of management, what do you see that would make you trust the BOD's that allowed a 200 for one reverse split, the devestation of 90 percent of your investment, the continued lack of direction and burning through cash, the possible inability to pay off the interest of the last 5 million dollars given by Lenfest. So just what is it that you place the BOD's in such high regard?? I'm sure your tune will change next month. So ask them: Why is everyone leaving? What are the standard contract amounts? What is the profitability of all 8 mso's? What is the profit margin? What is their R&D Budget going forward? How do they plan on competing with Brightcove, Motorola, Microsoft, Google, etc. Ask when they will become a reporting company again? You should have no problems finding these out for yourself from the respected BOD's. Enjoy your time. I think Joe is finally right, the spit is about to hit the fan.
And I would point out you failed in your assumption, and you continue to fail to discuss the facts behind Telvue as has been presented on this board. What positives do the longs have that can be verified and would cause someone who looks at Telvue for the first time to buy? No, having a small float is not good, having one person with 90+ percent control is not good, and since there are no shorts here, that cannot be argued either. Spread is large, liquidity is zero. So bring out your argument for buying. Don't attack the messenger, but argue your point with facts.
So it is the feeling by some that if one actually looks for facts behind a company and does not blindly follow one individual on a discussion board, that they are a professional?? On another board I was accused of being a Canadian agriculture specialist and competitor of that other company. For some not knowing about all the higher-ups leaving in mass must be disturbing. Not getting the financials promised must be discouraging. Losing 90 percent of your investment since the reverse split must be devastating. Being led to believe that a two year old award from a magazine made them the best and now realizing that is not true must be defeating. Telvue is not the only one in the dark, the fact that some want to vililfy those who disagree with no evidence to the contrary are very much in the dark. They've even taken off the rose colored glasses and are now blindly following the "buy if you can and never sell theory". There is no discussion to the facts presented here. As far as the professional designation, there is none, just a hard worker like you but one that is serious about finding the truth in a company. You can dismiss all my points, its your money. But even Joe stated that last years meeting was 5 minutes long and pointless. Mr Lenfest owns the majority and what he says goes, period. Maybe some will find out what is going on, but I doubt it. Like I said that will be a waste of time.
Bring some positive evidence contradicting my posts, contradicting the evidence I present to back my opinion. Bring something to this board that is positive without republishing PR's which we know mean nothing, then we can have a decent discussion. You see there is a post by Joe that specifically states its not about revenue but the shorts. And that is what you all are following? Hoping for a short conspiracy?? Good Luck, I wish you a profitable week ahead, and your facts presented to this board as to the financial health of TELVUE.
Shares would be a waste of money, the shareholders meeting a waste of time. Have a great Sunday!!
In my experience creating positive cash flow is having a business plan that revenue exceeds expenses, that's done by aggressively marketing and selling your product or services at a price that supports and exceeds overhead and staying ahead of the competition. Not by getting rid of 2 vice presidents, numerous engineers, managers and directors. Nor by going dark. But seeing that in the past the only reason this company stayed in existence was by Mr Lenfest wallet. To the tune of 30 million. That ceased abruptly and As of the last reported quarter the amount owed to mr lenfest in interest alone was over 100 thousand dollars and growing, they stated they were looking for financing and did not get it, so what choice do they have now?? The puzzle pieces all fit together. If you get rid of your personal secretary that's one thing, but major players in marketing, R&D, Engineering and management? Your argument does not hold water, knowing the facts we do.