Let's look at one more indication. Go to Telvues website and at the bottom of the home page select "Forums". You will notice that there are 32 strings with freshness of 2 years, 13 with freshness of 1 year, and 7 in the last 12 months. The last one was 6 months ago. Break that down further into categories and its been 6 months for the Developers forum, 10 months since the last General Forum post, and over 1 year for the feature request forum. So what happened in the last 6 months that no one is posting on the forum anymore? This is not opinion, check it out for yourself, ask yourself what happened 6 months ago. #1 they failed to get financing, #2 well into the process of people leaving. So what does that mean? not sure but the person running the board, or so it seems, was Daniel Pisarski VP of Engineering, you could ask him but he left TEVE last month. Have a great week!!