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These newly submitted patents are showing skeptical investors that APPLE means business. They have been disappointed each time an IPHONE came out with no liquid metal...these patents should be just as good an indicator of what's coming...perhaps why we see the action today.
Well, I guess we won't know until the Patent is approved..."I think"...if Crucible is included. They did have a patent approved that didn't have the Crucible on the page. Something about "Verticle" manipulation of the metal as opposed to Horizontal. But I agree, this seems to have opened many more doors to the metals use than was foreseen here. The plot thickens. And we know APPLE is very active in its pursuit for the metal. Its all good for LQMT... And now we have Librizzi sales group on board. Plus a sales group with Materion and a sales group with ENGEL.... Others may see big negatives...I only see positives coming. One day we'll know who was right.
Seems APPLE is going for much more with Liquid Metal than just casings....
Wow...great find....there has been a LOT More going on behind the curtain than any here imagined.
Now we just hold our tickets and wait for the show to begin.
YOu may have some months to wait...get used to it or MOVE ON.
Marketing of the Turn Key ENGEL/LQMT machine has begun. Aug. 2014 approaches, for the Liquid Metal IPHONE 6. And all we "Longs" have to do is wait. Its as simple as that. Everyone has settled into their positions. Traders, Long Term Holders, and Side Line Sitters.
You know...from your posts..many to the negative...and then you have your own "blog" site...I cannot figure out if you have any shares of LQMT...would you mind divulging that information??? Any shares???
The Basic Patent Liquid Metal is no longer active. Anyone can use that metal for any reason. Is that not true?? So if they develop a machine that can make Computer Electronics parts with the basic metal,
APPLE can't stop them can they??? They have no control over the basic metal..because its no longer under patent. So if say Samsung has a machine that can make Computer Parts with the basic metal....are you saying...Samsung will be able to, but the LQMT/ENGEL machine WON"T be able to???
So I guess APPLE and ENGEL will be dumping the whole project very shortly...
Yes, this should be our proof the Turn Key Machine is ready....which I know saddens some of the "traders" here. Which makes it all so much better...
Good..I feel the same way about you and your posts...but I do read your posts....it gives me a good laugh...and you may be very surprised on some of the "hypsters" that will have been right about this company and where it goes. Unlike the "traders" pretending to be holders....
What would be a good move by Visser??? Putting orders in for the ENGEL/LQMT machines, fill up a warehouse with them, and start getting contracts. Problem solved...it would help the stock go up,
Visser would have more work than he could handle...perhaps a large customer base would be NASCAR. Everyone wins. If Visser is a smart man, and can keep his ego at bay....I'm sure he has one....this could be the best thing to happen for him. I'm sure he can see the potential. the only thing he wouldn't have is the "bragging rights" to sole manufacturer of Liquid Metal parts...which he would never be able to keep up with..
On the ENGEL web site, as I posted before...the US has 3000 mold machines....China has over 30,000 and expanding rapidly. That was for plastics. Now we have mold machines for Liquid Metal..you can see the potential demand, once US manufacturers realize the importance of having such machines IN COUNTRY...and with metal its also getting into the area of "national security". As we have seen with Lockheed Martin. The potential is beyond belief...and its just getting off the ground. ONE SALE...that's all it would take..ONE SALE in the US of the LQMT/ENGEL mold machine and there will be a stampede
to their offices like we can't imagine. Like 3D printing...this is a totally new concept of Metallurgy.
Also, IN HOUSE machines..that can make all sorts of different parts...
GOOD LUCK LONGS...
What did you want, something similar to JP MORGAN??? Remember, ENGEL and MATERION and LQMT itself will be promoting the metal. Libirizzi specializes in Molding Technology.
LOL>..yes...Its very good news. Plus ENGEL and MATERION and LQMT itself promoting the product.
this is a "WOW" factor. Doesn't look like LQMT is sitting on its hands...perhaps a good indication that the TURN KEY MACHINE IS READY....If ever there was a time to be IN LQMT, this is it...and no, I'm not telling anyone to buy. It just may be a good idea to start thinking about it...
Wow...nice connecting the dots. Its good news for LONGS....
GREAT!!!!!! And they also made point to mention the "commercial injection molding machines"...
a great move by LQMT.
I don't force anyone to take my advice. And I think we can all agree that we know very little of what's going on...so, no matter if its negative posts or positive ones...its all conjecture. At least mine is wishful thinking instead of making it a black hole of despair. We have some very big players in this game. APPLE, Materion, and Engel. I'm sure they aren't in a fantasy of deceit. I'm sure they are working their collective fannies off...to get this metal to produce product. I'm sure LQMT and ENGEL
have worked very hard to bring the Turn Key Machine. And I'm sure Visser has worked very hard on his race cars.... And a lot of this board as it is with other boards, as it is with Teams in business...
there are always those that put keeping control above anything else. Keeping control of a knowledge base even when that base becomes useless. Castigating the opinions of others for egos, or perhaps "trading agendas". So we dibble and dabble in ideas and sometimes some DD comes forth..an article someone found, a few dots to connect....but will any of it change anyones investment?? I doubt it.
I see APPLE with Patents to make Liquid Metal products. I see a Turn Key Machine that soon may be unveiled by ENGEL, I see a new approach of getting the Liquid Metal in countries all over the world.
I see new possible revenue streams. And hopefully I'll see that Visser will no longer have a stranglehold on products made from Liquid Metal. I've worked with bloated egos with my job.
I'm used to it. It doesn't bother me. Its all part of the amusement while we wait to see where this all goes.
Everything is in such turmoil now, its pointless to get cranky at other posters ideas or perceptions because no one knows. Yes, how were any Canards made by Visser?? Where are they on the Turn Key Machine?? What is ENGEL doing with it now?? If APPLE IPHONE 6 is going to be Liquid Metal, what machines are they going to use??? Has the "Sheet" patent been proven?? No one knew about the Turn Key Machine until is was unveiled. How long were LQMT and ENGEL working on that??? What else are they working on?? Something for APPLE??? And it seems if APPLE uses a machine developed by ENGEL and LQMT, then LQMT will be making revenue from APPLE. Remember all the "months" where LQMT was getting hammered for seemingly doing nothing??? Well, "we" were proven wrong, weren't we.
BAM...there was the TURN KEY MACHINE....That's what LQMT was doing. Nope..no one has a clue on what's coming...its 100% speculation. So, relax, enjoy the HOlidays....buy and hold or wait on the sidelines.
"A lockheed prototype and ability to meet manufacturing expectations"
Where did you get that???
HOLD until AUG. 2014. You have seen the Patent Drawings of APPLE for the LIQUID METAL Phone.
what other proof do you need??? Where do you think this stock will be when APPLE comes out with the Liquid Metal Phone?? What will your stock be worth then?? Is that not worth the wait??? OH YEAH.
(there is always risk).
That's a good possibility. APPLE, it seems is going to have to bring it "in house"..if its going to make many products of Liquid Metal. The possible tentacles of all this, grows.
Looking towards August...2014...about when IPHONE 6 may be due. Its call "investing emotional survival"..
won't worry about the little stuff...until then.
GOOD LUCK LEGITIMATE LONGS...
Well, the notice announcement said that the machine was going back to Engel from LQMT. I may have missed some facts, but it raises all sorts of questions. Did LQMT become convinced that VISSER wasn't up to the task of using the TURN KEY machine??? Are there further refinements needed on the machine after LQMT had time to use it??? Maybe more additions to the machine??? And that's why ENGEL isn't showing it "yet". Also, APPLE kind of had some control over the CE/NON-CE agreement because VISSER was going to be making all parts....with the new plan...for machines being sold all over the world...and with the basic metal patent now run out...I'm figuring APPLE realized whatever effort they were putting into their LIQUID METAL products...the "race was now on"...because I imagine competitors are licking their chops...to get some of the ENGEL machines...and use the Liquid Metal that is no longer under patent restrictions.
You see how complicated this is all becoming. But it all seems to point to a much better position for LQMT. IMO of course.
We have to assume they are still "fine tuning" it...perhaps adding to it, for more applications. I'm only guessing...and the big whale in the room..is APPLE...what is APPLE going to use if they come out with an IPHONE and IPADS with LQMT??? Are they going to use the ENGEL machines?? How many would it take...and perhaps if that's true, we can be thankful that LQMT is part owner of the TURN KEY patent.
Since it was a combined effort...I don't think it will be a "small" percentage..after production machine costs...and then they will share in the "per unit" production royalties...OR LQMT will get them all.
..for the metal. and Crucible Patents...and leasing revenue. Its just a guess, but if true, those are a LOT more revenue streams coming in.
Just dreaming..but maybe APPLE has put its dibs on many of the first production Turn Key machines...
Comparisons have been made by some between Visser and Steipp/LQMT, as to the benefits of this
sudden turn in the dynamics of LQMT, going from VISSER having sole rights for making Liquid Metal parts to selling the ENGEL/LQMT Turn Key Machine. And the comparison of VISSERS management
style to the "lacking" management style of Steipp. So, one has to consider how long Steipp has been with LQMT and how long it may have taken the scientists at LQMT and ENGEL to come up with the design of the TURN KEY machine, while LQMT was trying to make prototype parts for potential
customers, through Visser. You may come to a more clear idea on who had the better vision.
I guess its all about how we perceive reality. I cannot see how the VISSER plan of parts distribution
could have worked. The manpower it would have taken in sales teams and machines to provide Visser Cast Parts the ability to meet future world demand as compared to the idea of selling the machines
so industry components can make their own parts with on site assistance from the ever increasing networks of ENGEL specialists. One has to step back from the "love affair" of Visser the man and mattress salesman, and Im sure he's a wonderful person, and I know he and I have much in common with our "VIETNAM" experience..so Im sure I"d get along with him over a cold beer. But this isn't about Visser the man, who spends much of his time with Race Cars..this is about how to get Liquid Metal into the world before competition passes us by.
Did you read about BV's experiences in Vietnam?? That may give you a clue if you had read past my numbered posts that you responded to. We are much about our past.
No ..the last ones take some deeper thought processes. Perhaps a little too difficult for some.
1. He's worth over $150 Million.
2. He's over 60.
3. He's Retired from the business that made him his fortune.
4. He's spending much of his time with his NASCAR HOBBY.
5. He knows the value of ENGELs fielding philosophy.
6. He knows he'd never be able to control Liquid Metal and have it be a success.
7. He sees the benefits of selling the Engel machines instead of him buying machines to supply a small niche market.
8. Sorry you cant see it, but, he became successful with a lot of luck. And you're here making comments on a penny stock. Ironic.
Just wondering if you know what Visser did in the Vietnam War and how it may have taught him
about "luck and fate". and possibly contributed tho his helping veterans.
One of the things to keep in mind in this confusion...is the recently released drawings of the Liquid Metal IPHONE linked to a patent. I have no idea what machines APPLE will be using. But it is going to happen. Some pretty good strings to hold onto..during these confusing times. ENGEL/LQMT Turn Key Machine, APPLE PATENTS, Crucible Patents, and more patents in for approval.
GOOD LUCK.
"stupid" was uncalled for. I know what you meant. My post was "light hearted" references. I am amazed at the arrogance and self importance of some of the posters on this site. And if truth be known, totally unfounded. Otherwise their wealth would be so great, from their intuitive investing expertise...they wouldn't be messing with a high risk penny stock, let alone posting on a message board.
A little more...Barney Visser is 65, he's having a ball with Nascar...he has 7 children. If Visser becomes one of the "king pins" of LQMT...what happens if something happens to Visser?? And again, you really think he's at the Castparts company, sitting at his desk worrying about Liquid Metal??? No, he's at the race track, working with his team trying to win NASCAR RACES...where would you be at that age, with that kind of money. Are his kids interested in the business?? Who knows. LQMT found a benefactor...
and if Barney is smart...in more areas than Mattresses....he knows....if he fights to keep control of LQMT....instead of letting the Engel Initiative take its course....it will be because of a bloated ego
that could cost him a fortune for himself and his family. ENGEL is a world wide first class Mold Machine company that is trying to transition to Liquid Metal Machines... the LQMT/ENGEL machine is our ONLY HOPE. Not a CastParts company where the CEO is at the race track. THAT is reality. And if Barney is NOT a self absorbed narcissistic dolt, he's just as excited about the prospects of the ENGEL/LQMT Turn Key Machine and is probably already discussing how he can get some of them...
can you imagine Barney getting some of those machines for his race cars?? I can.
GO ENGEL...GO LQMT...GO APPLE GO MATERION, ...and go Barney...have fun racing your cars.
I am absolutely amazed at some of the posts that have been attacking Steipp and LQMT in its quest to get this technology going. Some praising Barney Visser and almost hoping the ENGEL/LQMT initiative fails and Visser wins. Barney Visser IS RETIRED from SELLING MATTRESSES. He made a few hundred million SELLING MATTRESSES. He has a "Cast Parts Company" but his main interest is NASCAR. Where do you think Vissers attention will be most of the time?? With LQMT?? or with his RACING TEAM?? Where would yours be if you had a Few Hundred Million in the bank and LOVED the excitement of car racing?? Compare Visser Cast Parts and Engel. Look at their Web Sites. Who has the best chance of getting Liquid Metal into WORLD WIDE distribution?? Who took the initiative to work with ENGEL to get a TURN KEY MOLD MACHINE?? And I'm seeing some that have knocked the posts of others for being "fluff" and "clueless", and now are wanting VISSER to win on these "negotiations". REALLY?? Visser can buy all the LQMT/ENGEL machines he wants.but I bet he's going to want to be at the Race Track and I BET that was the problem. We all better be hoping that ENGEL and LQMT has a machine perfected that CAN make strategic parts for Lockheed Martin and MANY others....and can sell those LQMT/ENGEL machines ALL OVER THE WORLD...that can get the PPS up and make us money. If you love Barney Visser, write him and see if he'll send you an 8x10 glossy you can pin on your wall. If you want LQMT to succeed you better be thankful for this new ENGEL initiative. With how much stock Barney has in LQMT, I'm betting ole Barney wants ENGEL/LQMT to succeed too, unless he's been smelling too many fumes at the race track. GOOD GAAD.
With that much space..hmmm...I wonder how many "Liquid Metal" machines it will contain.
What in the heck does that write up have to do with the survival of LQMT and getting the Liquid Metal out into the world as fast as possible.??? I read it and it seems his love is NASCAR...NOT LIQUID METAL and that probably was the problem. He has BIG bucks...he saw the opportunity to add Liquid Metal to his Cast Parts company and it didn't work..end of story. He wanted a stranglehold on the technology, thinking he would be "EL PRIMO" for that metal. Many times in start up companies
you may have very good people...when the company is small, but they do not have the talents for a bigger enterprise, or one that changes direction. LQMT changed direction. It doesn't demean the person. Its just that different talents are required at different phases of a companies growth.
Good Grief...the next Warren Buffett...we need to get LQMT to him, to add to his portfolio. Well, he has a better kitchen counter top than I do, so he's doing something right.
This is aluminum but the same will be true for Liquid Metal..
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/16/1-material-that-could-solve-all-our-energy-problem.aspx
Next August should be around the time of IPHONE 6....that's only 9 months. The "birthing" of the NEW LQMT...The Little Mouse Whose Roar will be Heard Around the World. So relax everyone...we have a long wait...but it will be worth it...