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I'll be interested to see what, if any, alternatives prevail. Electric? Hydrogen? What I mean by "if any" is that I wonder if forever, we'll have an option at the dealer if we want an electric or hydrogen car. I'm thinking one's got to beat out the other due to R&D costs to study both simultaneously.
We'll see garages pop up that will start selling a "conversion" service for your existing ride. I can't wait for that.
I like electric as well but that vid was pretty cool. I believe you'll start seeing independent mechanics learning how to convert cars and you'll be able to have it done to your existing ride for $3,000 max.
Maybe it will be some POS pink sheet company that starts it. LOL!
I've always said that as long as there's people that make money on stirring up race relations, we'll always have a divide.
If there's a market for it, people will capitalize on it. Take away the market and watch what happens. LOL!
What is all this nonsense about Barak being "jeered at" because of his color?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12798
Jackson compares Obama to Jackie Robinson Jonathan Martin, Mike Allen
1 hour, 25 minutes ago
DENVER — Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) told convention-goers Monday that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is like baseball pioneer Jackie Robinson – enduring jeers without the ability to hit back.
Who's "jeering" at Obama? I don't remember anyone blasting Obama due to his color. His muslim background? Sure. But not his color. Seems democrats are trying to stir a race issue where there is none. I'll be the first to say that southern democrats probably won't vote for a black muslim. But that's the democrat's problem to deal with. LOL!
This reminds me of Tiger Woods back in the day. Blacks tried to tie Tiger into an "African American" group membership. But Tiger advised that he embraced his asian side more since his mother was. LOL! Obama's not black or white. He's a mix. And it's silly to see democrats trying to define him to one group. But that's what democrats do, in general. Group identity is king. Damn the individual.
Looking at adding some of these:
.DAWJP DIA OCT 120 Calls
We know there's another glimmer of hope provided by Rufus. Make no mistake that it's a worthless effort though.
Yeah, Biden is playing politics. In fact, Biden has or at least had a high opinion of McCain. You would have thought a McCain/Biden ticket would be more likely:
Here's the link to the orginal but the story is gone:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/
Unfortunately for MSNBC, the story isn't gone, however. Here's the archive:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20040803085719http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/
WASHINGTON - Sen. Joseph Biden, a senior Democrat, on Sunday urged Republican Sen. John McCain to run for vice president with the Democratic hopeful, Sen. John Kerry, in order to heal the “vicious rift” dividing America.
McCain, of Arizona, “categorically” ruled out standing with Kerry, but Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he had no second choice.
“I’m sticking with McCain,” Biden said.
“I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president,” Biden, from Delaware, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where the two senators appeared together to take questions on Iraq and other subjects.
“Do I think it’s going to happen? No,” he said. “But I think it is a reflection of the desire of this country and the desire of people in both parties to want to see this God-awful, vicious rift that exists in the nation healed, and John and John could go a long way to heal in that rift.”
McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee and in line to take over the Senate Armed Services panel in two years, endorsed Biden’s call for bridging the political gap between Democrats and Republicans.
“There’s too much partisanship in America, and there’s too much partisanship in the Senate,” he said. “And we’re not doing our job as our constituents expect us to do.”
“I will always take anyone’s phone calls,” McCain said of any call he might get from Kerry, a fellow decorated Vietnam War veteran. “But I will not, I categorically will not do it.”
Kerry said Wednesday that McCain, a frequent critic of President Bush, would be his first choice to replace Donald Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense now wrestling with the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal.
“I have any number of people that I would make secretary of Defense, beginning with our good friend John McCain,” Kerry said last week.
But on "Meet the Press" Sunday, McCain also indicated he was not interested in becoming secretary of defense in the event of a Kerry victory in November.
You have no idea which direction you're going in at any one time.
You're whining about illegal immigration as I do except you're pinning the blame on McCain for lack of policy. I wonder what you'd be saying if McCain supported drivers licenses for illegals just like Obama does?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/28/MNH1UL57Q.DTL
(01-28) 04:00 PDT Washington -- Sen. Barack Obama easily won the African American vote in South Carolina, but to woo California Latinos, where he is running 3-to-1 behind rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, he is taking a giant risk: spotlighting his support for the red-hot issue of granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
It's a huge issue for Latinos, who want them. It's also a huge issue for the general electorate, which most vehemently does not. Obama's stand could come back to haunt him not only in a general election, but with other voters in California, where driver's licenses for illegal immigrants helped undo former Gov. Gray Davis.
Please never bring up McCain being soft on illegals again.
You like to whine about blacks being burned at the stake during lynchings. You did provoke me to study more on that but I found about 3 instances of that happening, hardly enough to be called a tradition in your words but horrible just the same. You blame the Republican party for that, though most lynchings happened in the Democratic south. But what about Obama's supporting of Odinga? Odinga's tribe, which Obama supports, burned several Christians alive earlier this year:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-01-01-kenya-elections_N.htm
That's gotta make you sick, eh? LOL!
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Ah man. Biden likes to exaggerate? Say it ain't so.
http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/026777.html
Joe Biden's 1988 gaffe and his explanation: ''I exaggerate when I'm angry''
The tape, which was made available by C-SPAN in response to a reporter's request, showed a testy exchange in response to a question about his law school record from a man identified only as ''Frank.'' Mr. Biden looked at his questioner and said: ''I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.''
He then went on to say that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,'' Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ''the outstanding student in the political science department'' and ''graduated with three degrees from college.'' Comments on Assertions
In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.''
As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors - I said 'three' and should have said 'two.' '' Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science.
''With regard to my being the outstanding student in the political science department,'' the statement went on. ''My name was put up for that award by David Ingersoll, who is still at the University of Delaware.''
In the Sunday interview, Mr. Biden said of his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is - and I'd have to confirm this - but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Newsweek said Mr. Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.'' Says He Also Received Grant
LOL! This is hilarious! I've said it many times on this forum. McCain is as center as you're going to get from the GOP side. He was a loud critic of the Bush admin. When McCain was running against GW, even liberals thought he wouldn't be as extreme as Bush. No one believed me, however, anyone that says differently is lying.
Here's the link to the orginal but the story is gone:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/
Unfortunately for MSNBC, the story isn't gone, however. Here's the archive:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20040803085719/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/
WASHINGTON - Sen. Joseph Biden, a senior Democrat, on Sunday urged Republican Sen. John McCain to run for vice president with the Democratic hopeful, Sen. John Kerry, in order to heal the “vicious rift” dividing America.
McCain, of Arizona, “categorically” ruled out standing with Kerry, but Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he had no second choice.
“I’m sticking with McCain,” Biden said.
“I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president,” Biden, from Delaware, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where the two senators appeared together to take questions on Iraq and other subjects.
“Do I think it’s going to happen? No,” he said. “But I think it is a reflection of the desire of this country and the desire of people in both parties to want to see this God-awful, vicious rift that exists in the nation healed, and John and John could go a long way to heal in that rift.”
McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee and in line to take over the Senate Armed Services panel in two years, endorsed Biden’s call for bridging the political gap between Democrats and Republicans.
“There’s too much partisanship in America, and there’s too much partisanship in the Senate,” he said. “And we’re not doing our job as our constituents expect us to do.”
“I will always take anyone’s phone calls,” McCain said of any call he might get from Kerry, a fellow decorated Vietnam War veteran. “But I will not, I categorically will not do it.”
Kerry said Wednesday that McCain, a frequent critic of President Bush, would be his first choice to replace Donald Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense now wrestling with the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal.
“I have any number of people that I would make secretary of Defense, beginning with our good friend John McCain,” Kerry said last week.
But on "Meet the Press" Sunday, McCain also indicated he was not interested in becoming secretary of defense in the event of a Kerry victory in November.
Someone needs to let this Democrat know:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
"The Berg lawsuit contends there is enough truth in the various reports to conclude, "Unfortunately, Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen."
The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil."
Madonna's decided to help the McCain campaign!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080825/ts_afp/usvotemccainentertainmentmadonna
McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds angrily condemned the segment of Madonna's concert in Cardiff on Saturday that appeared to draw a comparison between McCain, Hitler and Zimbabwean strongman Robert Mugabe.
"The comparisons are outrageous, unacceptable and crudely divisive all at the same time," Bounds said in a statement reported by Fox News.
"It clearly shows that when it comes to supporting Barack Obama, his fellow worldwide celebrities refuse to consider any smear or attack off limits."
Perfect! Keep them coming, celeb's. Keep them coming. LOL!
That was an eye opener. This is what he got from S.S. in 2006 and 2007. I'm guessing this was legal. LOL!
Social Security Income:
$22,104
$23,157
The most interesting part is this though:
Charitable Contributions:
Senator McCain donates his royalties from his books to charitable organizations. This sum has totaled over $1,800,000 since 1998 when he signed his first book deal. Senator McCain's book income of $256,898 for 2006 and 2007 is comprised of earnings for Faith of My Fathers, Worth the Fighting For, Why Courage Matters, Character is Destiny, and Hard Call.
Beginning in 1991, Senator McCain has also donated the increase in his Senate salary for that year and each subsequent year to charity because he opposed the Congressional pay increase at that time and pledged not to accept the pay raises. The cumulative total of these donations is over $450,000."
That's awesome. I wonder how much Obama has paid out to charities?
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/18/916355.aspx
LOL! Never mind. Bill Clinton, Al Gore, nor Barak Obama were very good at giving to charities:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0704250022apr25,0,3205433.story
"Public attention to charitable gifts has led to uncomfortable moments for prominent political figures. Then-Vice President Al Gore came in for withering ridicule in 1998 when his tax return showed he had contributed just $353 to charity. So did then-President Bill Clinton, after a review of old tax returns revealed that he had once claimed a $75 deduction for donating a suit with ripped pants to the Salvation Army, as well as $2 for a pair of used underwear and $9 for six pairs of used socks.
Obama's household income has been inflated the last two years from the proceeds of lucrative book deals he signed shortly before entering the Senate in 2005. He pledged to turn over $200,000 of the book money to charity.
Obama charity amounts Graphic On their just-filed 2006 tax return, Obama and his wife, a hospital administrator, reported taxable income of $983,626 and claimed deductions for $60,307 in charitable donations. In 2005 they earned a combined $1.65 million and gave away about $77,300."
Arizona, it might be better if you not bring up John and Cindy McCain's wealth ever again. Looks like at least 2 generations of Democratic president hopefuls can't hold a light to the McCains.
Can ya post the "homeless" propaganda again? LOL!
Link? I'll go look but I'm curious where you got your info from.
Of course I didn't mind Kerry getting attacked for that. I wasn't one of his supporters. LOL!
Now, the guys posting today can take the high road and not bash McCain for being wealthy today.
How many Senators aren't wealthy or weren't wealthy before winning the office?
LOL! Now that's funny. John McCain isn't even president yet and we have propaganda trying to tie the fact that John's rich to the poor. Nothing here is new. You'll always have poor people. You'll always have rich people. Notice the sign laying on the groud next to the guy in the last photo. It says, "Brain Damage."
How out of touch is McCain? A jet, 7,9 ,maybe 11 houses, a rich wife. McCain spent over a quarter million dollars last year on his servants. He doesn't even know what kind of car he drives.
And the rest of america, those that struggle and try to just get a full stomach. The americans that live in poverty. Well, they have mobile homes. And many of them have lived this hell longer that McCain was a POW.
That last statement attacking John for being rich made the very point the author missed. He spent MONEY to PAY "servants" (I guess if you're a Democrat, you'd call them maids or butlers) meaning the man has created jobs. His wife is rich due to owning a business which... drum roll please... creates jobs.
Did you guys want someone in the Presidency who's never created a job before? A non achiever maybe?
Edit - I looked at the comments there as well. There's a pic of John getting ready to board a flight on the runway. Going through the TSA treatment apparently. The comments are bashing that very idea. Obviously, they've never flown in a private or corporate jet. I'm not going to post that I ride in one all the time but I have flown to a few countries in Central America in one. Never screened and customs boards the jet to check your passport. I think John's going through far more security than I had to. LOL! John's out of touch? I read many comments there from people who haven't a clue.
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
Bump:
Posted by: samaelrocks Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:14:47 AM
In reply to: None Post # of 349125
Who said this?
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
Note, this same person also stated one reason that so many District of Columbia schools fail is the city's high minority population.
Edit - Hint, it was said by a Democrat. Could you imagine if a Republican said it? Make your guess then see the link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2838420&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
Wow. Like I've been saying... many in the DNC have to be super pissed that Obama was selected to run on the Democratic ticket for presidency.
There's probably going to be a few more Democrats ready to challenge him as well.
A far left Muslim?
You'd have thought that Democrats thought they were going to be challenging GW for a 3rd term. LOL!
I expect to read about a strike on Iran before the end of this year, IMO.
Well said:
"If I were in that same cell in Vietnam during that era I may walk away broken and ashamed but later in life realize that the degree of violence and torture towards all P.O.W.'s was unethical, against the Geneva Convention and hardly something which can be trivialized in a IHUB two sentence post."
One thing to argue a statement or supported policy backed by facts. Quite another to post from an arm chair about how a POW should have reacted to torture.
I wonder how many ex-POW's are posting on iHub today.
LOL!
what i see is rampant racism, lack of objectivity and conspiracy theories.
OK
This makes no sense:
These things get taken completely out of context. Obama wears expensive suits and is criticized for not sticking a flag pin in the lapel. I don't blame him. I wouldn't either.
Does that mean he's broke? Arrogant? Anti-American? Or that other Presidents that did stick a flag pin through wore cheap suits?
LOL!
I'd be interested in knowing if citizens of other countries refuse to honor their home flags for political reasons. I know it has to happen but does it happen to the degree it happens in the U.S.? I'm referring to Obama not saluting rather than wearing a pin.
Uh, oh. Obama did it now:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/23/some-in-clinton-circle-outraged/
Some in Clinton circle 'outraged'
Posted: 05:00 PM ET
Some in Clinton's inner-circle are outraged.
(CNN) — Evan as Hillary Clinton praised the newly-minted Democratic presidential ticket Saturday, some in her circle are furious Barack Obama did not appear to give the New York Democrat serious consideration for the No. 2 spot, or even ask for her consultation on the matter.
"Set aside that Obama said she'd be on anybody's short list, set aside anybody's feelings on whether she was deliberately snubbed and the pros and cons of whether it should be her," a former Clinton strategist told CNN's Candy Crowley. "Focus on the politics of it and you have about a quarter of Clinton loyalists still not joining the caravan…for God's sake, not to even make a show of taking her seriously is flatly stupid."
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were "outraged," over how the process was conducted.
"You can't put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics," this person said. "Barack never even said to her, 'Here's how I envision the job'– not one discussion with her about [the position]."
"They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now," this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it."
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
"I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, 'Hey, wait a minute, man You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn't even vet her. You didn't call her. You didn't seek her advice,'" Begala said. "By the way, he didn't seek President Clinton's advice either. He's actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him."
Meanwhile, two sources familiar with Obama's VP search tell CNN's Roland Martin Clinton was very much under consideration, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that she wasn't.
One of the sources noted the Clintons have lived a very public life, and it's inconceivable for anyone to think that there really is more that needs to be learned from them by requesting additional paperwork, citing the release of documents by her during the primary season.
The other source said both Holder and Kenndey are very familiar with Sen. Clinton and that there was substantive and lengthy conversations among the Obama team with regards to Clinton as vice president.
Now, what votes was Obama expecting to get above the standard democratic one's? Looks like he's going to be giving more votes away.
On the other side, Hilary needs to grow up.
I wouldn't be so naive to think Hilary supporters will vote for McCain. But, many of these people will vote either for an independent or not at all. The democratic ticket was done when Obama was selected.
If I lived in Niarobi, especially after the most recent elections violence, I'd make DAMN sure that nothing was published negative against a public figure whom supports Odinga. And if it was, I'd be breaking down the AP's doors to get them to publish a clarification if I had accidently created the opinion = to less than flattering of a public Odinga supporter. Here's why:
http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8
Odinga publicly stating that he wanted Islam to be the only "true" religion.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=149_1199587542
"Kenyan Government calls Obama 'stooge' for Odinga.
Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan tribe.
In 2006 Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga.
Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them 'corrupt' (Kenya is one of the most stable places in Africa)."
And finally
http://kikuyunationalism.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/raila-odinga-is-a-disgrace-to-the-african-continent/
"On December 30, 2007 the chairman of the Kenyan election commission declared Odinga’s opponent, incumbent president Mwai Kibaki, the winner by a margin of about 230 000 votes. Raila challenged the results alleging fraud by the commission, but refused an election petition before the courts and urged protests, which plunged the country into one of the brutal and bloody post-election violence ever to be witnessed in recent history."
FWIW - The muslim violence spread all over the country and even into Nandi Hills where my mother lived. She had to flee and advised me that locals slept outside their huts and in tea fields for fear of being burned alive.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-01-01-kenya-elections_N.htm
Abby's going to have a hard time supporting Obama now considering Obama's political supporter in Kenya did far worse earlier this year to Christians than what happened to blacks in America 43 years ago.
Oil lost all gains this week in Friday's trading:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/oil_prices.html
"Oil prices plunge $6 a barrel after dollar strengthens, Russia begins Georgia pullback
NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices tumbled more than $6 a barrel Friday -- the biggest one-day percentage plunge in nearly four years -- after a rebounding dollar and a Russian troop pullback in Georgia sparked another frenzied sell-off."
I bought gas for 3.42 yesterday! Now, inventories for August delivery were around $120. Why isn't gas under 3 bucks yet? LOL!
Looking for USO calls on Monday though.
Well, the conspiracy theory must be accurate. Because my opinion post on why I don't agree was deleted.
Resistance is futile. LOL!
Edit - Oops. Looks like your's was deleted as well.
Have a good weekend!
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
LOL! OKKKKKKK. So some hedge funds went broke. Name a mutual fund that did. That's where the privatized portion would go.
Now, why in the hell would you be worried about the free market that has returned 100 fold over S.S. considering that even YOU know ponzi structures will fail? How many times have you posted "if S.S. is still around in ...?"
Maybe you haven't. But plenty have. You will NEVER remove risk from your retirement. NEVER. But you can have some control if it's in YOUR hands rather than the governments.
Concesions for older folks would be in place anyway. You'll get your's.
Highline, I have to take Soul Washer's position here. The "catching wild pigs" story is a good one but is a metaphor for people paying earned income to the government in exchange for socialized services.
Alaska sold a natural resource that wasn't taken from anyone (like your hard earned money), to private businesses. Instead of the local government squandering the revenue on pork initiatives, they promised a fund that would pay dividends to Alaskans.
The local Alaskan government did very well by their people, IMO.
Soul Washer - I'll have to do more research into what you've posted.
Great idea. Very interesting. I want you to think about this though. What are the tools the fund is using to invest in? Obviously good ones to be as perpetual as it is.
Consider the privitization of Social Security. Democrats mainly shot that down. Republicans championed the idea. Reps from both sides took both positions. But what if we treated social security that way? I've always liked the idea of privitizing social security. But in your example, it would make a nice compromise as long as the money put into the system was invested rather than immediately paid out like a ponzi scheme (with considerations to older generations taking benefits, etc.).
Now as a State, Alaska used their natural resources to sell and put that money in the trust for Alaskans. That's fair. But the question becomes, if you were to nationalize that same system in the U.S., what exports or natural resources are we going to sell that would generate revenue for a nationalized fund? Would you THEN support more drilling?
Maybe the idea should be left up to individual states and what their resources are that could be sold. Give the power back to the states.
This will sound flippant but I don't mean it that way this time. LOL! But, how can you be so anti-Republican and pro-Democrat considering that the red party prefers more states rights, whereas, the blue party would prefer to federalize everything they can get their hands on (in general of course)?
Your post that I'm replying to has less government written all over it.
Many here already know but here it is again:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218104233164&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
"Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.
Kuwait began finalizing its "emergency war plan" on being told the vessels were bound for the region.
The US Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route. US Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment due to what a spokesman termed "force-protection policy."
While the Kuwaiti daily did not name the ships it believed were heading for the Middle East, The Media Line's defense analyst said they could be the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan."
Man oh man. Not good. That will put the U.S. in a strategic position to face Russia as well which may also be in the works. More western allies including Britain may be on the way also. Haven't confirmed that yet.
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
Oh man. Conspiracists are gonna hate this. I'd hate to see what Abby's response will be:
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/21/feds-fires-took-down-building-next-to-twin-towers/
Feds: Fires took down building next to twin towers
DEVLIN BARRETT ASSOCIATED PRESS
Originally published 01:46 p.m., August 21, 2008, updated 01:26 p.m., August 21, 2008
GAITHERSBURG, MD. (AP) - Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.
The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics have long argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.
Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a skyscraper.
I really appreciate this statement:
A spokeswoman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government's work.
"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.
LOL! Now tell us what kind of diversity they have compared to the U.S. What's the population of Kuwait? Let me help:
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/kuwait.htm#Culture
People:
Nationality: Kuwaiti(s)
Population: 2.3 million, including non-Kuwaiti citizens.
GNI per capita PPP: $ 16 297 (year)
Ethnic groups: Kuwaitis 800 000 (35% of total), Arab, South Asian, Iranian, Southeast Asian.
Religion: Islam 85% (most Kuwaiti citizens are Muslim).
Languages: Arabic (official); English widely spoken.
Socialism works in a HOMOGENOUS social population.
Assuming you are thinking the U.S. could do the same, we won't even make "English" our official language. Less than 3 million in population makes the management of such a system viable as well.
Looks like you have your chance. I'm thinking it goes a bit lower today though. I hope. I may get out with some profit today.
IBM's looking good now.
Also looking to get these today .IYUID BCSI SEP 20 Calls. If no fill in the next few hours @ .50, I'll wait until Monday.
BCSI Calls are on watch this morning. Low float on the stock so will move quick in any direction. They met expections even on a loss due to an acquisition.
Thanks for the heads up on TRA.
Tommy, I've been adding some TRA puts all week. Looks like today could be the day they start to turn green. Thoughts? I obviously got in too early but at these prices, it's got to cool off, IMO.
Correction -
"One white for every black person was lynched" should have read "One white for every 3 black people were lynched."
Oh man, this is going to get people in a tizzy:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407761,00.html
Hallmark Begins Selling Same-Sex Wedding Cards
LOL! Maybe I shouldn't have put Abby on ignore yet. I don't want to read the rant anyway after 3 days of nonsense.
Edit - Another fun one:
http://www.wwnytv.net/index.php/2008/08/19/police-pregnant-woman-threatens-to-blow-up-dss/
"Police say a young mother of three children, who is pregnant with her fourth child, made the threat after being told she didn’t qualify for the assistance she was seeking."
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
This statement of your's is what makes you a liar, abbytraderwin
"EVEN THE WHITE WOMEN(HILLARY FANS) HAVE GOTTEN IN ON IT THIS TIME. WHITE WOMEN AND CHILDREN HAVE TRADITIONALLY TAKEN POPCORN AND PINICS TO THE LYNCHINGS AND BURNING AT THE STAKE OF BLACK MEN IN AMERICA. IT IS A TRUE FAMILY AND AMERICAN TRADITION."
It's not whether or not your book is real or not. It's NOT whether or not lynchings took place because we know they did, including the towns people. I'll conceed I didn't realize that some were burned alive. It's that you, and apparently Soul Washer, believe it's an "American Tradition." Propagating this makes you one of the worse type of liars. One that propagates hate. It's one thing to remember. Quite another to incite hate.
Do you even know how many lynchings occurred in the U.S.? Soul Washer will like to know none happened in Alaska. Did you know that whites were lynched as well? One white for every black person was lynched, but that makes it no better. I doubt you look that up though.
Would you say this to the Germans?
"GERMAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN HAVE TRADITIONALLY TAKEN POPCORN AND PINICS TO THE LYNCHINGS AND BURNING AT THE STAKE OF JEWISH MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN DURING THE HOLOCAUST. IT IS A TRUE FAMILY AND GERMAN TRADITION."
That took place around the same time of the lynchings (later part anyway). But that was in the millions.
You get the point. Attacking my education does not make you any smarter (one of your earlier statements "Remember the Missle we used to shot down a satelite in orbit?" LOL!), nor will it make you feel any better for it. Hate the Jews, various Christian sects different from your view, gays, various politicians, and simply anyone you don't like.
My last post of the day, I get to lump two bigots together at one shot.
Abby - Let us know when you find a link to your "mainstream" source.
Soul Washer - You know that lynchings were NOT an American or White tradition. It happened, yes. But bringing the family to one was NOT a tradition. I'll await your proof otherwise.
Also, Soul Washer, as anit-hate as you think you are, I'm surprised you'd align yourself with Abby. If that's your choice, knock yourself out. But that also means you can't have any gay friends or family members. If Abby found out, she'd insist you kill them before joining her club of radicalism.
Lastly, if Abby and Soul Washer think I'm an idiot, I know without doubt that I'm on the right path. LOL!
Edit - Alex, no one said that any inhumane treatment of blacks was "OK".
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan
Yes, you see people as "group entities" and apply your own bigotry viewpoint to said groups regardless of the "individual."
You insult the GA test scores and immediately tie that to a failing education system. You can't comprehend that test scores depend on individual accomplishments or not. For example, you've attacked me because of where I live due to your own bigotry, yet I have more respect on this board and proven you to be a raving lunatic. You'll never understand that.
No one here will be able to help you with your bitterness. But we can point out your inconsistencies and make you look like a fool so that foreign visitors won't get the idea that all Americans are as incapable of learning as yourself.
Interestingly enough, we can do so without insulting or attacking your family. Someone that believes the way you do in Georgia usually live in trailer parks and even rednecks are insulted by them. Congratulations!
Edit - You hate gays so much and focus on John McCain being sodomized, I get the feeling you actually hate yourself because you have gay tendancies yourself. I've heard of that psychological effect on people. Interesting case study, you are.
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As long as we read only that with which we agree, we learn nothing. - Chester Dolan